He brags about kissing women without warning and without consent, just as multiple women and witnesses have come forward and stated he does. If it's happened on multiple occasions, he himself says he does it, the tone of the conversation is jocular and self-aggrandizing, and the act itself is, by definition, sexual assault...
Then, yes. He's bragging about sexual assault. He may not see it as sexual assault, but that doesn't change what it is.
You can't consent to something you're unaware might happen, and the vast majority of people's default mode is to not be kissed aggressively on the mouth by strangers.
I'm not ignoring context, the entire conversation is available online in audio and transcribed forms. Trump brags about how he "just starts kissing them" and "doesn't even wait," which is corroborated by women who have dealt with him in business setting where he's introduced himself by kissing them full-on on the mouth repeatedly without their forewarning or consent. They weren't "willing" to let him do that to them, they just didn't know it was coming, and on the repeat incidents they state that they were too afraid for their professional lives or for other reasons that amount to intimidation to stand up to him about it.
So we have Trump talking about something he himself is saying he does, and that witnesses and "victims" have stated he does, and so then the "context" of the whole thing becomes not "joking about things that could be possible" but "bragging about things that he's actually done."
The conversation isn't "I imagine you could get away with BLANK," it's "I've done BLANK, and they didn't do anything about it!" Not "I bet you can do anything," but "you CAN do anything," followed by a suspiciously specific example.
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He brags about kissing women without warning and without consent, just as multiple women and witnesses have come forward and stated he does. If it's happened on multiple occasions, he himself says he does it, the tone of the conversation is jocular and self-aggrandizing, and the act itself is, by definition, sexual assault...
Then, yes. He's bragging about sexual assault.
He may not see it as sexual assault, but that doesn't change what it is.
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Without warning is INHERENTLY without consent.
You can't consent to something you have no idea is about to happen.
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You can't consent to something you're unaware might happen, and the vast majority of people's default mode is to not be kissed aggressively on the mouth by strangers.
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I'm not ignoring context, the entire conversation is available online in audio and transcribed forms. Trump brags about how he "just starts kissing them" and "doesn't even wait," which is corroborated by women who have dealt with him in business setting where he's introduced himself by kissing them full-on on the mouth repeatedly without their forewarning or consent. They weren't "willing" to let him do that to them, they just didn't know it was coming, and on the repeat incidents they state that they were too afraid for their professional lives or for other reasons that amount to intimidation to stand up to him about it.
So we have Trump talking about something he himself is saying he does, and that witnesses and "victims" have stated he does, and so then the "context" of the whole thing becomes not "joking about things that could be possible" but "bragging about things that he's actually done."
The conversation isn't "I imagine you could get away with BLANK," it's "I've done BLANK, and they didn't do anything about it!" Not "I bet you can do anything," but "you CAN do anything," followed by a suspiciously specific example.
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