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Footballer Ched Evans cleared of raping teenager after complainant's sexual history is put before court

DevilishRogue

October 14, 2016
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/14/footballer-ched-evans-cleared-of-raping-teenager-after-two-week/
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Title Footballer Ched Evans cleared of raping teenager after complainant's sexual history is put before court
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DevilishRogue

Upvotes 1
Comments 4
Date October 14, 2016 4:45 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/57hbtw/footballer_ched_evans_cleared_of_raping_teenager/
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Comments

[–]DevilishRogue[S] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The state of justice in the UK. An innocent man spends two and a half years in prison, branded as a rapist and subject to all the violence that entails. When he is released he was prevented from returning to his former club and profession with club employees and their families being threatened and intimidated. Eventually he won a quashing of his ridiculous conviction and was cleared at retrial thanks to new evidence which frankly shouldn't have been needed or relevant as the initial evidence presented should have resulted in a not guilty verdict. Only Evans, his supporters and Chesterfield FC come out of this whole sorry episode with any dignity.

He probably won't see a penny in compensation despite having to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds to clear his name, money that the average accused in Evans' situation doesn't have access to. I said from the start the conviction was obscene but it took years, cost him the best part of his career, his good name and untold lost millions of pounds in career earnings. From how he was performing at Sheff Utd he was due to be snapped up by one of the big clubs. With his prime development years spent in prison he'll be lucky if he ever plays in the Premiership now. The whole stitch up has been a disgrace and happens to too many innocent men who lack Evans' resources. It's time to change rape laws to make convictions more difficult to obtain when innocent men are getting convicted when even the evidence presented by the alleged victim is that she doesn't know whether she gave consent or not.

[–]Xristos_Xristos_III 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think you should understand this outcome as a victory for a certain kind of feminist rather than a legal one for Evans.

Just look at the language of the report (my italics):

Ched Evans successfully overturned his conviction for raping a teenage girl ....

By calling a 19 year-old woman, a woman who Evans (and Clayton McDonald) had met after she had been to a nightclub and after she had spent the day at work, a "teenage girl" is - while factually accurate - clearly implying that she was vulnerable and taken advantage of by the older Evans.

In case that reference to a "a teenage girl" doesn't make it clear to the reader that Evans is a total shit in the eyes of this report, this later line makes it completely unambiguous (my italics):

Evans, 27, had admitted to having sex with the teenager in a hotel in Rhyl, north Wales, and cheating on his girlfriend in the process ...

But more importantly, the story from that certain kind of feminist's point of view in a nutshell is this:

  • A wealthy white male convicted of rape uses his wealth to overturn the earlier verdict;

  • More specifically, the earlier verdict is overturned by making reference to: "crucial new evidence clearing him [which] came from two men who told of their own sexual experiences with the teenage waitress."

  • So in other words, a woman's sexual history at times other than the alleged rape incident is used to discredit her claims

  • The allegedly Patriarchal system steps up to confirm her as a discredited witness.

The Guardian has already published "Campaigners fear Evans case will stop women reporting rape" and tomorrow's papers and next week's blogs will be flooded with a slew of comparisons to Brock Turner amongst other things.

[–]DevilishRogue[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sadly you are correct, but in a society as politically correct as ours you have to take your victories as and when you can and at least the long known truth about Evans is finally in the public domain.

[–]Xristos_Xristos_III 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

... at least the long known truth about Evans is finally in the public domain

But wouldn't you agree that the problem with cases such as this one are that it is not a matter of truth?

What I mean by that is that in such circumstances as these, the verdict of guilty or not guilty will always be ultimately an interpretation of both events and the law.

This is not even a case of only the people who were there knowing what happened because at least one of them - by her own admission - doesn't know exactly what happened to her at the time.

As I've said in another comment, this is Schrodinger's cat but for sexual assault - except as this latest development shows, every time the lid of the box is closed everything gets re-set i.e. it is literally both rape/not-rape at the same time until the box is opened. And whenever the box is opened and, for example, the outcome is rape and not not-rape, everyone who wanted not-rape will insist that this is the real outcome. Close the lid and open it again and get not-rape, then everyone who thought it was rape goes mental.

I think what I'm trying to say is that fundamentally I'm really starting to wonder whether these revisions to the definition of rape are in danger of breaking the system of the rule of law - because really, who can make a judgment about something even the protagonists involved don't understand or remember?

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