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Hollyoaks sexual consent storyline - they just love setting men up to fail

craftychap

September 26, 2016
14 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/tv/thousands-react-hollyoaks-sexual-consent-11941743
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Title Hollyoaks sexual consent storyline - they just love setting men up to fail
Author

craftychap

Upvotes 14
Comments 16
Date September 26, 2016 8:16 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/54mnr4/hollyoaks_sexual_consent_storyline_they_just_love/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/hollyoaks-sexual-consent-storyline-they-just-love.940937
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Comments

[–]thrway_1000 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/Vy2Pn

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I wanted to start this thread myself. The show has done something similar before, and the outcome annoyed me.

[–]craftychap[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

It says she used the guy to get back at her ex boyfriend and then invited him back to her place, at no point addresses the predatory nature of this, I'm not saying I agree with rape but why is it portrayed as this being ok, its ok to lead young immature boys on and play all the mind games you want but if it doesn't turn out how you wanted it too all of a sudden this guy is moustache twirling rapist who planned it despite the fact she came onto him. Bearing has been dealing with this scenario now after a Tedx talk where a similar hypothetical scenario is put forward, the feminist counterargument

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I saw the episode. If I recall, she even picked up a bottle of wine for them to drink (she lives on top of a bar that her father owns), then took this guy upstairs to her bedroom. I don't understand what the big deal is, but given how this show usually does such things, they'll play an as-yet unseen scene to show what really happened.

[–]craftychap[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Its pandering to the bullshit, wheres this epidemic of rape we keep hearing about, they can't keep playing the 'its goes unreported' line because A: how do they know about any of it if went unreported and B: do they really expect us to believe with all this feminist scare mongering that college age females don't think they can come forward with enough representation and protection.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't know about you, but this kind of nonsense frightens me. I have trouble trusting women because of this stuff.

[–]craftychap[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

We have to keep challenging this stuff, if they do a storyline like this we petition for them to do a false rape story and show how an innocent guy can have their lives destroyed and kills himself, a custody story with a vindictive wife that destroys a mans life through the CSA and drives him to suicide

They say we need to teach men not to rape then teach girls not to see men as tools and objects for their amusement, using the threat of crying rape or abuse as a weapon for manipulation.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They wouldn't do anything like that that paints women in a negative light for fear that busybodies would claim that it would deter female rape victims from coming forward.

[–]craftychap[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And thus the cycle of disposable males continues.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Most reasonable people would interpret being asked by a girl to go back to her apartment, her providing wine, and then leading you into her room as an invitation for sex.

The fact she regrets was she did in the morning is not the fault of the young man.

[–]craftychap[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

These are the type of feminists that believe a woman can withdraw consent after sex, a man cannot withdraw penetration but they think this is perfectly fine, illogical madness.

[–]ukreview 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

how does the 'withdrawing consent' argument go?

[–]craftychap[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Its based off this blog which was revealed to be someone trolling both sides but a lot of the feminists backed it and still support the idea. I'm sure Sargon and Hoff-Summers have mentioned it but it escapes me which videos.

[–]DevilishRogue 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm only seeing one comment here despite reddit telling me there should be two.

[–]craftychap[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here, weird.

[–]ukreview 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

sick of the usual 'she was too drunk to say yes' crap. if they are both drinking, why must he get consent from her but she doesn't need it at all . will always remember the debate on bbc1 where one contributor was talking rationally about why it's important for both parties to be responsible where drink and sex occurs and the feminist jumps in with 'but in law women don't need consent'.

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