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Will Women's Pets Now Have More Rights Than Men?

Western_Ways

August 14, 2016
32 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://pjmedia.com/drhelen/2016/08/13/will-womens-pets-now-have-more-rights-than-men/
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Title Will Women's Pets Now Have More Rights Than Men?
Author

Western_Ways

Upvotes 32
Comments 11
Date August 14, 2016 6:35 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4xpdw0/will_womens_pets_now_have_more_rights_than_men/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/will-womens-pets-now-have-more-rights-than-men.943712
https://theredarchive.com/post/943712
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Comments

[–]BDMR_lurker 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rights used to be obtained in exchange for duties.

Ah well, the Western civilisation's had a good run.

Sic transit gloria mundi and stuff.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Pets already have more rights than men -- try circumcising a dog and the Humane Society will have you in jail so fast your head will spin.

[–]denyjunctionfunction 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Really? I seem to remember dogs and cats at shelters all being spayed or neutered which I would argue is worse.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So? Humans get sterilized, too. Also, pretty sure nobody at a shelter is neutering dogs without anesthetic.

[–]SacredWeapon 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Bill text is gender neutral--they seem to have seized on the title

One of the groups supporting the bill also notes that this supports both female and male DV victims

[–]bufedad 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Which would be true if the law was applied equally to both genders.

[–]SacredWeapon 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Latest version of VAWA (finally) explicitly requires protection to male victims. I agree, there are problems, but this law is not creating more of them.

[–]bufedad 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Latest version of VAWA (finally) explicitly requires protection to male victims. I agree, there are problems, but this law is not creating more of them.

So do Domestic Violence Laws (mostly), unfortunately, that's not how it is applied.

[–]SacredWeapon 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And we should be fighting for the police and legal system to do their job correctly.

Not against legislation that protects pets.

[–]bufedad 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And we should be fighting for the police and legal system to do their job correctly. Not against legislation that protects pets.

We should be fighting any legislation that ends up disadvantaging men.

[–]HumblePig 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I understand the sentiment behind downvotes you're getting. I've seen pet programs abused terribly, animals used as emotional pawns against male "abusers" the same way children are, but babies and bathwater. CPS is a biased, sick system too, but necessary even while in need of reform. I understand the knee jerk reaction to say "tear it all down, it's a mess."

But getting the letter of the law right is the first step towards fixing enforcement. Now there are rules and standards to at least try to hold them to.

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