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Public Pool’s No-Men Hours Stoke Religious Debate

Tmomp

June 30, 2016
2 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/nyregion/pool-rules-no-running-no-eating-or-drinking-no-men.html
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Title Public Pool’s No-Men Hours Stoke Religious Debate
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Tmomp

Upvotes 2
Comments 11
Date June 30, 2016 11:10 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4ql3mk/public_pools_nomen_hours_stoke_religious_debate/
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Comments

[–]Tmomp[S] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Religious debate, yes. Also a sexism debate.

Why is it so hard to identify when we deprive men?

It is one of two city swimming pools with gender-segregated hours

For once someone is using gender-neutral language, unfortunately it is not a gender-neutral situation. Women are never barred. Only men. So they should say men-segregated hours. Just imagine if it said black-segregated hours.

[–]FFXIV_Machinist 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

they are legal tax payers who have requested a special religious accommodation for a service they have paid for; there is no mens rights issue here. this is a religious freedoms issue. Hasidic jews have a very strict set of rules that require women to have no unnecessary contact with men who arent their husbands, and to cover themselves.

[–]Tmomp[S] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I am a taxpayer who paid for the same service and it is being denied on the grounds of my sex.

Open and shut sexism.

If blacks were disallowed would you not see the racism? The cause doesn't change the result.

[–]FFXIV_Machinist -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

but you are not being denied service, your being asked to come back an hour later. there is a difference between making a reasonable accommodation, and an unreasonable accommodation - they are a recognized and large religion in the usa, and their religion prevents interaction with men who arent their husbands. if you were kicking men out for no reason other than them being men, then yes you have a mens rights issue. this is a religious freedoms issue.

[–]Tmomp[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

their religion prevents interaction with men

That's their business, not mine. They're free to swim when I'm there, but not to impose on me.

If the gym is open 9 hours for women and 8 hours for men, I don't see how you can convince me that 8 == 9.

People used to try to say separate could be equal. You're trying to say unequal is equal. It's not.

[–]FFXIV_Machinist 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

and on the flipside, for them 8 hours of the day are no swim times for them. you cant convince me that 1>9 on 2-3 days a week at that.

[–]Tmomp[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They can swim when they want. No one is stopping them. They choose not to swim. Someone is stopping me, taking away my choice. Not just anyone, but the government.

The problem could easily be solved by having male-only hours.

[–]FFXIV_Machinist 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

do you have some circumstance that prevents you from interacting with women?

[–]runner557 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love issues like this that put SJWs into a dilemma.

[–]rimper 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The comments in the article are hilarious...NYT readers trying to pander to antisemitism, women's rights and atheism, thus being all over the place.

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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