Mens Movements: Wolves in Sheeps Clothing

lostapwbm · 2016-06-01T16:33:58+00:00

In short, the claims of men's movements do not equate with their actions, regardless of the nature or type of their movement.

Yeah, and "feminism means equality." A feminist accusing anyone of impure motives or hypocrisy is just precious.

Krissam · 2016-06-01T19:51:29+00:00

On the one hand, men's equal treatment, or 'rights' movements seek 'equality' . They dernand nothing less than strict gender parity. They use legal rights discourse to demand equal treatment for men. On the other hand, however, they ignore empirical evidence of womenrs subordination such as: (1) the trivialization of women's work, (2) women's intermittent participation in the labour force due their king prïrnary child and care giuers, (3) women's free domestic labour, (4) womenrs low wages in public sphere work, and ( 5) the exigencies of wornenf s biological reproductive systems (Tong, 1989; Morton, 1988)

AHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Look at the pot calling the kettle black.

omegaphallic · 2016-06-01T21:30:48+00:00

Its just Feminists projecting their own faults onto men.

fengpi · 2016-06-02T00:27:27+00:00

Really? I thought MRAs were monsters in monsters' clothing?

eixan · 2016-06-02T04:00:11+00:00

While gay men suffer discrimination and subordination, that reality does not obliterate the fact that al1 men benefit from androcentric society (Connefl, 1997)

And

Still, by the 1990s, gay culture often embraced capitalist values, and therefore, gay communities f eatured elements of the hegemonic ideologies that subordinated women, including lesbian women

If gay men have it so good then do they experience more violence then lesbians?

masculinity is comfortably ensconced within daily practices and conventions of both capitalism and patriarchy (Connell, 1987).

Hegemonic rnasculinity encourages men to use vioierke on an individual level in asserting their control over women, or Setween each other as they negotiate hierarchies of power (Newburn 6 Stanko, 1994).

Yes... In a society where everybody is constantly under one hierarchy or power or another I see no reason within the Rubic of this statement why men would commit more violence to women then they would to men.

According to Coltrane, men simply studying men do not, and cannot, change the constructions of masculinity and male dominance (1994) . That is, both men and women need to examine categories of multiple masculinities because: (1) women can better identify and highlight male power and abuses, (2) women can better question male agency, and (3) women can better identify, find, or analyse the structural patterns of their subjugation

What if we applied this logic to the feminist movement?(1)Men can better identify and highlight female power and abuses (2) Men can better question female agency (3) man can better identify, find, or analyse the structural patterns of their subjugation

In addition, mens studies fail to corne to grips with the reality that their foray into gender studies competes with resources for women' s studies

...yes. We do live in a world with limited time and resources.

White Ribbon men seem more interested in promoting their image in the media than they are in helping women. For example, they provided services for women in Toronto with only two thousand of the hundreds of thousands of dollars they raised (Spark, 1993)

Don't-ya-know that a mensrights group should spend all their resources on helping women?

Title	Mens Movements: Wolves in Sheeps Clothing
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Date	June 1, 2016 4:08 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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