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Sweden stirs debate with women-only swimming.The local International Women's Association have spent a great deal of time talking about gender-separated swimming. Now they've decided they're opposed to it.

furchfur

May 31, 2016
23 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2016/0530/Sweden-stirs-debate-with-women-only-swimming-in-nod-to-Muslims
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Title Sweden stirs debate with women-only swimming.The local International Women's Association have spent a great deal of time talking about gender-separated swimming. Now they've decided they're opposed to it.
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furchfur

Upvotes 23
Comments 7
Date May 31, 2016 7:08 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]v573v 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The city forces everyone to obey Muslim religious ideals.

Nobody should ever have to consider another person's religion in their own daily lives.

It their religion - when their religion and another person's human rights are in conflict the religion should always lose.

You have the right to practice your religion but you have no right to impose it on another person and that's what's happening in these cases.

[–]rg57 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you have no right to impose it on another person

Including the children you're raising, who have their own independent religious rights, and the right to a broad education sufficient to make a reasoned decision

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Notice what they were discussing: men and women were able to use shared swimming pools for decades with little problem. Then new men from more violent parts of the world arrived. These men caused problems.

So... let's lump all men together with these new violent 'savages' and discuss whether ALL men should be banned from certain times slots. Even though the local men did nothing wrong.

Why? Because they share genitalic with the violent people.

I mean, banning just the new immigrants, that would be racist! It be vilifying an entire population because of the action of a few! It's unthinkable! Let's talk about banning all men instead.

[–]cld8 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Notice what they were discussing: men and women were able to use shared swimming pools for decades with little problem. Then new men from more violent parts of the world arrived. These men caused problems.

Did you even read the article? It says nothing about men causing problems. The issue is that Muslim women aren't comfortable swimming around men (of any religion) so separate hours have been designated to accommodate them.

[–]repete66219 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah, the old "Muslim women want to be covered in a tent, hijab=freedom" argument. :-/

[–]autotldr -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot)


Should the native population adjust to immigrant groups' different lifestyles by accommodating women-only swimming and the like, thus providing access to Muslim newcomers who would otherwise not feel comfortable in gender-equal conditions? Or does the implementation of such segregation, however well intended, ultimately undermine the country's hard-earned traditions of gender equality.

The separate swimming hours have cause an enormous debate in Sweden, with many calling the move regressive and a ghettoization of women, while others laud it as a sensible inclusion of the country's increasingly diverse population.

"Without separate pools or swimming hours, women would go to the pool with their husbands and kids and just sit because they don't feel comfortable swimming in front of men."


Extended Summary | FAQ | Theory | Feedback | Top keywords: swim#1 women#2 hour#3 men#4 pool#5

[–]rg57 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your grammar leaves a bit to be desired, and you left out the important fact that feminists are aligned with Islamists to support segregation in this case. But thank you anyway, Botty McBotface.

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