Donald Trump and the Men's Rights Movement: It's Complicated | Mother Jones

fourthwallcrisis · 2016-05-20T15:46:12+00:00

It's not complicated at all. They're unrelated. When he stats wearing an MRA shirt, I'm sure we'll hear about it.

lostapwbm · 2016-05-20T15:49:44+00:00

"Its very hard for me," he continues, "because Trump does have a clue about what's happening with men's issues. But Trump is the quintessential example of the immature man and men at their worst."

Okay, Warren and MRM-at-large: has anyone volunteered to actually lay out Men's Rights to Donald Trump? Or are we just waiting for him to stumble on a copy of the Manipulated Man or the Myth of Male Power all on his own?

But Farrell, who has a Ph.D. in political science, still supports Hillary in part because, he says, "Even though I care about men's issues a lot, I care about this country being led by the most competent person."

Competence? With all due respect to Dr. Farrell, are you kidding me? Remember Zoe Baird? Kimba Woods? Janet Reno? Lani Guinier? Web Hubbell? Vince Foster? Billy Dale? Craig Livingstone?

Resignations, imprisonment, disgrace, and death, follow in the wake of the Hillary Rodham Clinton and the people SHE chooses to delegate power to. One of the key competencies of good leadership is good delegation. If she delegates tasks to the corrupt and the incompetent, how competent can she actually be?

SweetiePieJonas · 2016-05-20T21:18:48+00:00

Tying men's issues to Trump would be a huge mistake, IMO. Everyone would close ranks against him and permanently solidify the "MRAs are immature violent right-wing sexists" smear in the minds of the public.

We need to keep in mind that whoever ends up taking men's issues into the mainstream — and we almost certainly already know that person's name whoever it may be — will be introducing these issues to millions upon millions of ~~uneducated and propaganda-addled~~ regular people for the first time.

Tying this bloated orange anchor around our necks is not something I'd like to see happen.

EDIT I think the better path for MR issues going forward, regardless of who wins the election, is to court the Sanders supporters who have been smeared as "misogynist Bernie Bros" for the last 12 months. This is a large group of politically active people who, due to being on the left, would be better equipped to resist feminist opposition to reforms that will help men and boys. I don't think Trump really gives a shit about men's issues except as a way to counter Clinton rhetorically. I have just written this piece about it after watching the latest fake "aggressive Bernie Bros are at it again!" story unfold.

babno · 2016-05-20T20:17:50+00:00

I was pleasantly surprised by the article. No insults beyond the quotes of the interviewees, mentioned specific pain points of the mrm, and I feel it's entirely fair and accurate views of both trump and Clinton. Honestly I support trump over Clinton only because congress will let him do absolutely nothing but his election will have drastic changes on future elections for the better. If it weren't for that I'd absolutely go Clinton. Trumps tax proposal alone would bankrupt us.

2016-05-21T00:40:43+00:00

"But Trump is the quintessential example of the immature man and men at their worst."

It's official, folks, Warren Farrell has gone senile. You want immature, you traitor, look at men who need the approval of powerful women so badly that they will support even a rabid female supremacist like HC. That's the problem with not shaving, i guess, you don't look at yourself often enough.

Myself, i am supporting Trump unless Bernie miraculously wins the Dem nomination because Clinton drops dead or is kidnapped by aliens. Trump is less right wing than HC, less feminist than HC, and his mere presence in the White House will help to change the current American mindset when it comes to political correctness.

Vote Trump -- He Ain't That Bad

TheDude41 · 2016-05-22T06:30:20+00:00

Anybody who thinks they can have a position on Donald Trump at this moment, as either good or bad for men or the MRM, is not to be given any credence whatsoever.

That includes Farrell and Esmay.

Title	Donald Trump and the Men's Rights Movement: It's Complicated \| Mother Jones
Author	mankindglobalmedia
Upvotes	13
Comments	21
Date	May 20, 2016 2:33 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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