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Journalist doing an AMA about Canada's missing indigenous women. As can be expected nothing about men who make up the majority missing.

die_wacht_am_rhein

November 26, 2015

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https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3udi8j/we_are_investigating_the_tragedy_of_canadas/

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Title	Journalist doing an AMA about Canada's missing indigenous women. As can be expected nothing about men who make up the majority missing.
Author	die_wacht_am_rhein
Upvotes	32
Comments	20
Date	November 26, 2015 11:01 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3uegkh/journalist_doing_an_ama_about_canadas_missing/
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[–]Arby01 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[+]muramuramura 10 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Anybody asking polite questions about the lack of caring about the murdered and missing men is getting downvoted :(

[–]soalone34 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]soalone34 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

[+]clarabutt -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

[–]soalone34 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]MrDoradus 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Which answer do you find to be a good, concise one, though? The one where the reporter says "it's an issue we agree exists and should be studied, but we chose something else because it's catchier and appeals to us more"? Or the answer a random Redditor put forward which implies we already know what men die from, police killing and other violence, so no research needed? Neither answer really explains why the issue of violence against indigenous women is so important it needs addressing specifically and not just indigenous population in general. Especially considering that men are 3 times more likely to be killed than women. Not trying to take attention away here from their research of crime against women, but I think both that and against men deserve at least equal attention.

While I agree this question might be perceived as derailing of the topic at hand, missing indigenous women, but I'm assuming these reporters/researchers are at least partly funded by the country. And any such research, which does get funded by the country to completely exclude one sex is quite distasteful. Especially when that sex is more likely to be murdered. And I would assume no one is lining up to finance research going into why indigenous men or the indigenous population as a whole suffers such murder rates, we can see that from the lack of a database the reporter mentions.

If this research was solely financed by that news outlet, then yeah, they can focus on anything they like or think will sell. But the double standard can still be pointed out considering the percentage of victims men make.

Though if there really is a crime ring which kidnaps and sells women into some sort of slavery and that's what they end up busting, good for them. I just think there is nothing more to this story than women being murder victims and their bodies never found, just like men. No additional factors, or other reasons behind their disappearing.

I know one could argue it's the same old dead horse being beaten (many commenters did so in a very Reddit kind of manner, mocking "but wut about teh menz?"), but these researches really do exclude the bigger part of the victims just because of crime against women sells better. If even asking about this double standard might stop it in the future, I'll be there every time to ask this tired old question, when men seem to be overlooked, not just by a single study but by all of them. As is the case with indigenous men in Canada.

Sorry about the wall of text, got carried away.

[–]bigbronze 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[+]clarabutt -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

[–]Cant_Ban_All_MRAs 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Ask Earl Silverman how easy it was to start the first and only shelter for abused men. Oh, you can't because he committed suicide and his shelter was closed.

Ask the various men's groups across Canadian universities. Oh, you can't because they were all denied due to vocal opposition from Feminists.

Maybe you could bring up the question at the next meeting of C.A.F.E.; you will have to speak up to be heard over the fire alarms that Feminists were pulling.

Maybe you could write to a Canadian politician who openly advocates for men to find out how that goes. Oh wait, there are none. Perhaps a minister or government org - nope, none of those either.

A national conversation is being started on the plight of aboriginals, and it is being unnecessarily gendered against the group that is suffering worse on all metrics. Your response - "You don't like it, start your own!".

What a fine human being you are!

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[–]Cant_Ban_All_MRAs 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[+]clarabutt -12 points-11 points-10 points 10 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]Cant_Ban_All_MRAs 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Here's what I need you to do, since I'm not going click any of that crap. Quit derailing discussions about women's issues cause your fee fees got hurt. That doesn't help any fucking one. It just makes you look like a fucking ass and makes everyone convinced your issues don't fucking matter. It pisses people the fuck off. You want to do something? Do something fot fucks sake. He people in that thread did, and you know what? No one cared about the plight of these first people either. That's how they got into these horrible places in the first place. But people are FIGHTING to bring attention to their issues. Don't derail a thread about people trying to help raped and murdered women and make it about your sorry ass. Rant over. Fuck off.

Thanks, but I will continue. There is still no help forthcoming for aboriginal men, but you do provide a textbook example of how angry people get when their sexism is exposed.

[–]clarabutt -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]gokin323 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link