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The domestic violence double standard of Hope Solo, the goalkeeper of the USA's women's football team.

TheCitizenAct

July 6, 2015
241 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11720722/Womens-World-Cup-Hope-Solo-and-domestic-violence-double-standard.html
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Title The domestic violence double standard of Hope Solo, the goalkeeper of the USA's women's football team.
Author

TheCitizenAct

Upvotes 241
Comments 25
Date July 6, 2015 12:27 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3camzy/the_domestic_violence_double_standard_of_hope/
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[–][deleted] 37 points38 points39 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

When is it OK for the alleged perpetrator of domestic violence, a purported bully beating the living daylights out of their relatives on a regular basis, to be regarded as a sporting hero, lauded for their achievements on the pitch while their offences off it are routinely ignored? The answer is simple: when the sporting champion in question is a woman.

It's nice to see an article that starts off by not pulling any punches.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

His career is toast. And if not, the feminist taliban will firebomb his house or something.

[–]chrispdx 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For as much as women denigrate a man for saying this, the truth remains: Hope Solo is an attractive women who helps sell jerseys and gain TV ratings from men who fantasize about having sex with her. "Pussy Pass", indeed. That she's perhaps the greatest female soccer goalie of all time is almost a side note.

[–]MasZakrY 27 points28 points29 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not really commenting on the domestic violence but:

Here were the brave English women demonstrating their skill, athleticism and mental resolve in a wholly praise-worthy fashion.

I don't think these soccer players are brave playing fucking soccer.

[–]chrispdx 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think what was meant was that women's soccer in other countries is considered a bit of a joke. Plus the Brit women weren't expected to do much in the WC and ended up finishing third, so there's some national pride in that statement.

[+]Ferg8 -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To be honest, I consider men's soccer a bit of a joke too.

[+]WaffleSports -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

When they throw a fit on the ground like a 13 year old that got their phone taken away... yeah.

edit- I didn't know so many people supported men flopping.

[–]TheCitizenAct[S] 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've also submitted a huge comment under 'The Citizen Act' on this post, here it is:

"We'll just keep screaming on about domestic violence being perpetrated by women and you, and your ilk, will just keep ignoring us.

Hundreds of independent studies show domestic violence is perpetrated by women just as often as men (many of which have been reported on by this very newspaper, albeit with little in the way of moral outrage typically only reserved for women) and a study from Harvard University which was dragged down after a litany of protest from gender feminists, showed women commit upwards of 70% of all acts of domestic violence.

We're talking hundreds here, over decades. Yet still the DV debate is orientated around 'male perpetrator/female victim.' They ignore that even back in the 70's, Erin Pizzey, the woman who set-up the first domestic violence shelter for battered women, stated that most of the women who came through the doors of her refuge had committed just as many acts of DV on their male partners, or instigated the violence.

What happened to her? Her dog was killed, her family was threatened, she received numerous bomb threats and she went into exile for about 15 years. It doesn't matter how obvious it is, much like 'sexual objectification culture', much like 'rape culture' (0.02% of people, and that's based on a percentage of the entire population not the adult population, were raped last year - even if you accounted for 100% of rapes on top of that going un-reported, it doesn't even come close to the 'rape culture' they love to parade around), much like 'mansplaining', or 'manspreading' (men have recently been arrested for this in New York), the debate, the narrative, will always orientate around women, irrespective of how much logic is presented (particularly in the form of the pay gap).

Why? Because the narrative around these topics isn't about 'equality', it's about exploiting genuine victims of domestic violence, rape, discrimination, etc., and using them for political point scoring - much like Sturgeon and Harman did during the GE in their call to arms and proclamations on behalf of ALL women (how can one woman speak for ALL women?), they don't care about women, they care about demonising and pathologising another generation of males, and scoring political victories aloft the summit of mount moral superiority.

It doesn't matter men are killing themselves in record numbers, are twice as likely to be the victim of a violent crime, less than 40% of all University applications, 20% of all primary school teachers (and in huge minorities in professional service depts. at Universities, in the psychology industry, the charity sector, etc), 6x more likely to be homeless, 66% of all homicide victims, are provided with 60 refuges relative to 7,000 for women, are 90%+ of workplace deaths, have reduced life expectancies relative to women, etc., no - we need to shut down all women-only prisons, declare a rape culture, stick all boys on ritalin so they conform to female standards of behaviour and deride 'prescriptive, socially conditioned masculinity' (EU-speak) for all it isn't worth!"

[–]thrway_1000 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/QgiEv

[–]X019 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Hold on now. I'm all for equal punishment, but all of this is alleged, correct? What damning evidence is there against her? What court has found her to be guilty? Without any of those things this is slanderous and the same garbage we fight against when it happens to a man!

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It is still a double standard since as the article stated "Greg Hardy and Ray McDonald ...were given bans by the American football authorities at the point they were arrested for domestic violence, even though charges were not eventually forthcoming."

Why do the same rules not apply to Hope?

[–]X019 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What happened to them was wrong. Do we want her to experience the same wrong?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, what happened to them is wrong. The reason it's wrong is because men are assumed to be guilty if there's a female claiming to be a victim in the story.

The reason she wasn't suspended is because she is a woman.

[–]X019 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed. We don't want people, regardless of gender, to be suspended in the case of being accused, right?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't care either way, as long as it's relatively consistent.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do any Americans know the last Men's World Cup viewer numbers for America?

The usual suspects in media outlets are pushing the new narrative really hard that womens sports need to be paid the exact same for men's sports, despite the fact the top ranking teams aren't as good as the top ranking male teams and pull in far, far less money.

All I can find is the last worls wide viewe statistics which numbers a little over a billion viewers.

While the USA has 26million-ish and from what I've seen of world viewer stats for the Women's World Cup it's around 100million.

100 million compared to a billion.

Anyone know the exact stats? I'm seeing this "equal pay for women's soccer/sport NOW!"idiocy everywhere and would like to use the exact statistics to refute it when it comes up.

[–]CoccyxCracker -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Family changed their story, didn't show up to court, no conviction, no video. Move along.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is not really correct. The story changed according to Solo's lawyer, not the court. And it's not that they didn't show up to court, it's that they did not give Solo's attorney an interview, which they don't have to. Solo's attorney got the case dismissed by the judge. The case was not dropped due to failure to appear.

Here is one article from USA today spelling much of that out. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mls/2015/01/13/hope-solo-domestic-abuse-charges-dropped/21708551/

"Solo asked last month that two counts of fourth-degree assault, stemming from a June 21 altercation with her sister and 17-year-old nephew, be dropped because her attorney hadn't been able to interview the alleged victims."

Solo asked and got it. Did not have anything to do with a changed story (according to her attorney, not the court) or not showing up to court (the case never even made it that far). That is why this is a "Pussy Pass", she asked the court to let her off for a frivolous reason (only time you have the right to interview an accuser as a defense is in a trial, the accuse can deny other requests) and she got it on a questionable decision by the judge.

This is why this story is rather big, the media spin on it has people believing Solo's side only and not the other, because of great lawyer work.

EDIT: bad typing

[–]WangEnlargement 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not a lawyer but there is most certainly a legal process to interview witnesses outside of trial in the U.S. It may well be that the witnesses/victims wouldn't comply with it.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deposition_%28law%29

[–]autowikibot 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Deposition (law):


In the law of the United States, a deposition is the out-of-court oral testimony of a witness that is reduced to writing for later use in court or for discovery purposes. It is commonly used in litigation in the United States and Canada, where it is called examination for discovery, and is almost always conducted outside of court by the lawyers themselves (that is, the judge is not present to supervise the examination). In other countries, testimony is usually preserved for future use by way of live testimony in the courtroom, or by way of written affidavit.

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[–]Wargame4life 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

ironically without a prosecution or unquestionable evidence (i.e cctv) anyone who insists she should be banned etc, is no different from the demented feminists who insist people should lose jobs when accused of rape.

accusations are not conclusive evidence or proof.

[–]runner557 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But the feminists don't want to wait for a trial and conviction when a male athlete is arrested. They want the person banned from the sport from the time of arrest. Same thing with male college students. When accused of rape, they want them expelled without trial.

Feminists believe men are guilty until proven innocent.

[–]Wargame4life 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

well indeed there is merit in using this as a case against that double standard of how unjust taking action over simple accusations is, and how its only selectively applied, but nobody her can claim she is guilty or should be punished without condemning men who also are punished on allegation only.

BOTH SHOULD BE FREE FROM EFFECTS UNLESS TRIED AND CONVICTED

[–]paragonofcynicism 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a good point. We cannot get out our pitchforks over someone accused of DV if there's been no conviction. We were not present at the alleged crime, we are not privy to their family troubles.

.

However, there is still a double standard mentioned in the article that is valid despite the family changing their story and no conviction or charges.

But then neither were Greg Hardy and Ray McDonald who were given bans by the American football authorities at the point they were arrested for domestic violence, even though charges were not eventually forthcoming.

If this is true, I haven't verified the articles claim, I see a terrible double standard here. A double standard where we should be upset that these men were dismissed from their jobs, not that this woman has not been.

We are supposed to be rational, we are supposed to be taking the higher ground, and if that's the case we cannot be demanding blood here, that she gets dismissed because they did, we should be demanding that these men get their ban lifted for being unjustly banned citing her treatment as evidence their ban was unjust.

[–]Wargame4life 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

absolutely i couldn't agree more with you, its nice to meet someone intelligent here.

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