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In Defense of Freedom or: Yoga Pants 4 Life

cavehobbit

February 12, 2015

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Title	In Defense of Freedom or: Yoga Pants 4 Life
Author	cavehobbit
Upvotes	3
Comments	8
Date	February 12, 2015 5:26 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2vo4rm/in_defense_of_freedom_or_yoga_pants_4_life/
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[–]jaybaird05 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]PM_ME_UR_PLANTS 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]Feyra 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]PM_ME_UR_PLANTS 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"they're comfortable and more fashionable than sweatpants and a hoodie."

...but why? It's undoubtedly the attention they garner. When worn without anything else covering the ass, they don't generally make the person look any more "classy" than sweatpants, but they do make them look more sexy. Comfortable or not, women frequently wear things like this to get men's attention, and you're lying if you won't admit that.

"...unless I'm missing something..."

Yes, the part where I said "They're free to do it". I'm against a public ban, and I don't care if people walk around naked in public if they'd like to do so and those who study infectious disease think it would be safe. However, I support places like schools and offices banning them with dress codes. People shouldn't be shouting in a classrooms, lecture halls, or cubicles either. It's a known source of distraction, and it's disrespectful of those surrounding you to knowingly distract them.

[–]Feyra 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

...but why?

Why are they comfortable, or why are they more fashionable? Assuming you mean the latter, women's fashion relies on the female form, as I'm sure you're aware. Much as I'd love to wear baggy clothes like dudes have the pleasure of, a reasonably tight hoodie and long skirt is about as casual as it gets for comfortable public clothing (which I take full advantage of).

Comfortable or not, women frequently wear things like this to get men's attention, and you're lying if you won't admit that.

Well, if you're dead set on calling me a liar then nothing I say will change that. I can only make solid assertions about my own intentions, and if that makes you think I'm lying, so be it. Believe it or not, men's attention is rarely more than a tangential concern in my choice of daily wardrobe.

Of course, that gives you leeway to claim that most other women frequently are attention whores, or that I'm somehow adhering to a feminine instinct, but I suppose that would make this thread more interesting. ;)

[–]PM_ME_UR_PLANTS 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Assuming you mean the latter, women's fashion relies on the female form, as I'm sure you're aware.

So you agree that sex appeal plays a role? Or are you under the impression that accentuating and flaunting the female form isn't a subconscious biological distraction to most men and some women?

Much as I'd love to wear baggy clothes like dudes have the pleasure of,

It's not like there are fashion police stopping a woman in sweat pants, and it's not like men are less appealing in them as well. If you'd find wearing them pleasurable, then do so.

If the social pressure that creates fashion isn't coming from sex appeal, where does it come from and why do you (or anyone else) care to follow it? I'd love to know your explanation if it isn't either conscious or evolutionary subconscious behavior (or both).

I may have been wrong about the lying thing, as you could also just be naive.

[–]Feyra 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So you agree that sex appeal plays a role?

Please clarify your point, as I'm no longer confident I interpreted it correctly. Are you saying that women intentionally dress to flaunt sex appeal the majority of the time? Or are you saying that fashion is based on sex appeal (which is true) and women either consciously or subconsciously feel pressure to conform to the socially accepted fashions (which is also true)?

I disagree with the former to a certain extent, and if that's not what you meant, I apologize.

If you'd find wearing them pleasurable, then do so.

I tried it briefly in high school, the result was not acceptable. There's this whole humans being social creatures and ostracisation sucking much ass that got in the way of my personal happiness.

I may have been wrong about the lying thing, as you could also just be naive.

I could be naive. I don't think so, but that could easily be naivete speaking. ;)

[–]PM_ME_UR_PLANTS 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you saying that women intentionally dress to flaunt sex appeal the majority of the time?

That's an unknown, particularly in the case of whether it is a majority or not. There aren't mind reading technologies, but given what people say about their intentions (if they aren't lying) it is probably a mix depending on the woman in question. I give women credit as to think some would be aware of what men like and decide to use that information. Also, some of those some openly say that's what they are doing. Besides, it's not like having the word "juicy" printed on the ass makes pants more comfortable, but plenty of women wear/wore those as well.

I tried it briefly in high school, the result was not acceptable. There's this whole humans being social creatures and ostracisation sucking much ass that got in the way of my personal happiness.

I've never seen a person go without friends as a result of wearing (clean) clothing of their choice. I've seen changes in friends and social standing, but social status I also see as more a part of the mating game than anything else, and that effort to maintain it is synonymous with effort to remain appealing. I also don't keep friends who would tell me what to wear in non-formal settings even if they are popular. If they force me to pick, then I'd rather have good friends than high status.

High school is tough though, as it is when people are figuring out just how much they want to play the social game or not. Also, as I said before, these are issues for men as well, and you don't see men wearing skin-tight clothing en masse. The difference in why they don't goes back to differences mate selection pressures, which ultimately has to do with pregnancy as the underlying economic driver of all sex differences.