What do you guys think of Sandford University's reaction? too much or too little?

Venaloid · 2015-01-31T20:38:41+00:00

You know, if it's an ambiguous case where people don't care about the rights of the accused, that's one thing, but if this is a clear-cut case of "yeah, this guy really is that big of a piece of shit", well, my sympathy is not very high. Imagine if he had been caught mid-murder.

chocoboat · 2015-01-31T21:06:15+00:00

When there is virtually no doubt that this was a rape (the accused isn't even trying to deny it), a reaction like this makes perfect sense.

It's certainly not too much. As for too little, I don't know what more they could have possibly done.

I don't know if you're one of those people who aren't sure if MRAs are pro-rapist or something like that. I think rapists are the scum of the earth and I wouldn't mind it one bit if the death penalty was handed out to predatory rapists. What MRAs are concerned about are INNOCENT men... the ones being kicked out of college or even imprisoned, because a woman had consensual sex with him and wished she hadn't done it a few days later so she decides to call it rape.

And it's Stanford, btw.

HegeMonstrosity · 2015-01-31T23:36:44+00:00

There seems to be absolutely no ambiguity in this case: I can't imagine a single, reasonably believable scenario here where the accused is innocent.

So, cautiously, I support the expulsion.

That said, however, I would like to add the qualifier: I am also deeply troubled by the prospect of Universities doling out punishment at all for crimes committed prior to the completion of the criminal investigation. On the facts publicly available, I support the expulsion in this particular, very clear cut case, while still recognising the slippery slope - that there will be many cases which are not so unambiguous.

Hence, I think that such preemptive, presumptive measures should only be permitted:

(I) When there is the complete absence of reasonable doubt as to the guilt of the accused, on the facts that are publicly available (II) If the punishment is automatically reversed on the improbable chance that the public facts were false and/or incomplete (III) If the university will automatically make any other restitution or accommodation necessary to restore the wrongfully-punished individual (again, in the improbably rare scenario where it turns out the accused was not guilty).

rapiertwit · 2015-02-01T14:09:55+00:00

This is disingenuous. The author is taking the university's quick, decisive reaction to an unusually clear and unambiguous rape situation, and suggesting that it's the proper response to rape cases in general. But - reality check time - the vast majority of rape complaints don't involve an unconscious victim and two witnesses. The university did respond in an appropriate manner to this particular case, but to suggest this is the proper response to rape cases in general is absurd.

Title	What do you guys think of Sandford University's reaction? too much or too little?
Author	Cannon0006
Upvotes	2
Comments	6
Date	January 31, 2015 8:27 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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