Female teachers: The sex offenders no one suspects, How the treatment of female teachers who sexually exploit male students reflects society’s legal and cultural double standards

kragshot · 2014-11-17T19:48:24+00:00

That is a damn good article. A lot of detail went into the research.

AtomicBLB · 2014-11-17T19:09:35+00:00

I think this is more along the lines of raising awareness but excellent post!

rg57 · 2014-11-18T05:20:59+00:00

Except we all suspect teachers, because they're in the news all the time.

The difference between teachers, and say priests, is solely due to cultural bias about males vs females.

This has a twin effect of taking claims by girls more seriously, and treating accused men far more harshly.

In all cases, we should take as our first guide, the alleged victim. When they elect to brag about what happened, or even marry their "abuser", it is absurd to force that label on them. But similarly, if they want the accused sent to prison for assaulting or raping them, then a trial should proceed toward that end, with the same sentencing regardless of gender.

This case seems to be one of bad feelings after being dumped. Had he been dumped by someone his own age, after having sex 300 times, he would have felt as bad.

2014-11-18T14:50:40+00:00

"Men received 63 per cent longer sentences on average than women, and women were twice as likely to avoid incarceration if found guilty."

Can't wait to get me some of that "male privilege".

iMADEthis2post · 2014-11-18T18:10:38+00:00

So I have this crazy ex, piece of shit stalker, half of the reason I post here. As an interesting sideline her mother, secondary school teacher, 11-16, is a massive paedophile, not only did she fuck her students and daughters friends, well below the age of consent which is 16 in the UK she married one of the fuckers. I went to the after party which was fucking cringe worthy as the fat cow dressed herself as a purple fairy for the wedding, tacky fairy wings the lot. The whole outfit probably cost around £10 to give content to just how shitty it was.

Now, I was actually working in education at the time and I mentioned this to a woman in the student support section. I can still remember the look on her face when she figured out I was talking about a woman "nothing will happen without a complaint" or something like that pretty much sums up the conversation. So when it comes to female paedophiles in the north west of England there is very little interest in dealing with them, even when they are fucking 13yo boys in after school parties, for years. She's still a secondary school teacher last I heard. Never send your kids to a school in Liverpool guys, unless you actually want your kids molested that is.

willmatheson · 2014-11-29T15:26:10+00:00

Anne Kingston’s thesis, that the treatment of female teachers who become sexually involved with their male students reflects legal and cultural double standards, is borne out, but I hope that we don’t solve this double standard by making female teacher offenders and their (sometimes-unwilling-to-be) victims as miserable as their male counterparts and theirs.

Given the extreme consequences we mete out to sexual transgressors, we must more than ever before reflect on how we know that our outlawed sexualities are innately harmful – that is, damaging by their nature, beyond their violent, life-destroying extrinsic consequences. The exacerbating effects of the secrecy and isolation necessary in these teacher-student relationships also merits analysis. It is akin to how getting gunned down by the mob would have been an attendant risk of trading in alcohol during Prohibition.

Psychology has before failed to test assumptions based on social norms, with tragic results. Only in 1973 did the American Psychiatric Association declassify homosexuality as a mental disorder. Furthermore, mandating the status of victim on people who don’t want it is inhumane. There’s also something sinister about insisting that someone is hurt in an invisible way and might not even know it. It should be regarded as skeptically as we would Recovered-Memory Therapy and Facilitated Communication.

Robert Shoop’s mechanisms for the alleged damage could have been used to defend prohibiting premarital sex. He’s a specialist in education law, not a scientist or even a psychologist. The ‘damage’ from doing the inappropriate thing is an increased propensity to do the inappropriate thing. Similarly, if someone takes me jogging, and I enjoy it, I have an increased propensity to jog. And I might have difficulty settling for walking anymore – why walk when I can jog? But jogging, fortunately, isn’t illegal.

ISawJLawsBoobs · 2014-11-17T19:38:21+00:00

None of my teachers abused me. This is starting to make me feel insecure.

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