Apparently it's wrong for men to be supporting eachother now! 🙄

nyarlathotep999 · 2022-11-14T02:51:28+00:00

"Don't be selfish, think about ME for a change."

Acceptable_Laugh_674 · 2022-11-14T03:27:27+00:00

As if porn actresses are working for free. Do you know how much they earn?

SteamyCrack · 2022-11-14T02:22:30+00:00

These people always try to find a way to hate men 🤣

Wingflier · 2022-11-14T04:54:22+00:00

If you don't like the sex industry, tell Feminism to stop promoting it.

JustaTcup · 2022-11-14T02:27:37+00:00

Oh brother. Here we go again. When I read these things I feel like toddlers are writing them. Did they ever stop ONCE and consider the dangers to men before men, themselves, had to bring them up? No .. so that makes them just as accountable for "only caring about pornography when it directly affects them".

There's also the other added element that women in porn are choosing to be there. No one is holding a gun at their heads. So you make crappy decisions and then it's mens' faults because they're being affected also but in another way?

Oh please, give me a break. Go play with your princess costume or something.

denvercaniac · 2022-11-14T07:50:01+00:00

Doesn't fapping only affect the male body, so....why do they care?

OnThatSigmaGrindset · 2022-11-14T10:11:01+00:00

posting r\fourthwavewomen is cheating

literally every post there is garbage

Drakethepirate · 2022-11-14T08:28:27+00:00

Lies, lies, lies. I stopped watching prn because I don't want to encourage the growth of the industry. Women already hook-up with hundreds of men in some countries like the US and they can earn more money than a teacher by doing prnography. Those women are not abused, they do it to themselves for good money. P websites don't accept minors, they usually take the videos down to avoid getting in trouble with the law.

Rolaid-Tommassi · 2022-11-14T05:31:11+00:00

Using that OP's own logic, aren't women exploiting mens' biological needs by profiting from porn? And aren't women generally safer if men masturbate to relieve their own needs rather than sexually assaulting women?

Seanjacobs2138 · 2022-11-14T08:24:59+00:00

Feminists when they aren’t the victim of a situation that barely involves them

Mysterious-Dirt-6506 · 2022-11-14T06:38:38+00:00

Men looking at porn = bad

Woman living like porn = empowering

thenewkidd1980 · 2022-11-14T05:17:07+00:00

Why do most feminists look at men and women as some sort of monolith of some type of belief system? almost every feminist does this. This is why the "Check Your Privilege" argument exists. Because feminists believe all men think the same and all women think the same. It's why "no uterus no opinion" is made because they ignore all women that are pro-life.

Identity Politics is an exclusively Feminist belief system. If you need a reason 1203 why not to be a feminist and can still believe in equality? here is another example where feminism's actions do not match the dictionary.

dw87190 · 2022-11-14T04:43:06+00:00

The women who made this post is highly delusional

iGhostEdd · 2022-11-14T11:48:10+00:00

Even when it's not about them it is about them

burnerpvt · 2022-11-14T02:32:59+00:00

Don't women create the porn consumed by men? If it's so bad why don't they stop making it? 🤔

Ok-Translator2294 · 2022-11-14T07:31:01+00:00

Feminists as usual want all the rights and privileges of men but the accountability of infants.

We keep on hearing how the sex industry is exploiting women, how movie industry does the same, yet women keep signing up for both. Onlyfans shows how willing most of them are. Yet they are the eternal victims.

Use your body to get fame and money, cry about being objectified when that has been accomplished.

Women: the eternal victims of their own choices.

Former_Ocelot5593 · 2022-11-14T07:46:43+00:00

I bet if men stopped paying for only fans feminists would throw a fit for not making money anymore lol

ShaShaShaaa · 2022-11-14T04:11:27+00:00

puritanism in all but name

Training-Rich5057 · 2022-11-14T04:52:37+00:00

Men, Lea e these feminists alone, and I mean alone for the rest of their lives. Give them nothing but indifference. They can go it alone for life.

justmemeingaround · 2022-11-14T10:15:16+00:00

I like how they ignore that there may be men in the porn industry that are being exploited

Iceman_Hottie · 2022-11-14T05:32:02+00:00

It's an ideology based on romanticism philosophy. Anything that supports it is good, anything against it is bad. Helping each other out is a huge threat to their cult.

Dunkopa · 2022-11-14T13:41:03+00:00

It's funny that these people still think there is the 'abuse' they think happening in these companies in this day and age. These kind of things might have happened in the past, but no company will be left alive even in a sprinkle of a rumour of abuse in this time.

Brains_Are_Weird · 2022-11-14T07:45:10+00:00

Jesus Christ, do they have to interpret everything in the most man-villainizing way possible? I'm so sick and tired of this, "yeah well it's worse for women" response to concern for distinctly male issues.

XrXfuryXrX · 2022-11-14T12:01:41+00:00

Our dick Our opinion.

solar-garlic1776 · 2022-11-14T13:00:55+00:00

Men addressing men's health issues, women most affected.

So if we as men were all like porn is bad porn is harmful to women we all have agreed to stop watching and supporting the porn industry. How quick will it take before we hear that this is oppressing women because men aren't paying for OF, EThots, etc etc.

itneverbeganwithyou · 2022-11-14T06:39:13+00:00

Annoying fucks.

I am quitting porn for my own benefit and I couldn't give a damn about the actresses.

And the supposedly abused women of the industry usually transition to other form of sexual content creation, like Mia Khalifa doing Onlyfans now.

Amberlin_V · 2022-11-14T10:42:08+00:00

Once I saw this documentary. Was about this very young girl going to film one of her first porn. Once they arrived to the place it was a dirty garage, the plot was a gangbang basically. So the interviewer Once he saw those men and the place called the girl and told her not to do it. She was absolutely okay with that first experience and totally okay with everything. So, the point is. Yes ofc women are seen as object of pleasure in porns, but they totally accept that. Side note, many women shares the fantasy at least once in life that they would be in that pornstar position so please they should just stop being the fake victims.

Firedamp_Weaponry · 2022-11-14T12:44:58+00:00

Feminists treat men like shit 24/7 and then be surprised when we don't give the slightest of shits about what they have to say lmao. We look out for our own, something they seem to have serious trouble with. Besides, most (not all, but most) women who do porn do it willingly and earn a fair pay.

Epiphanic_Eros · 2022-11-14T13:21:00+00:00

We each know where the shoe pinches.

That said, her criticism isn’t wrong. The profound alienation of so many young men, and the objectification of women as mere objects to serve men’s pleasure, has much to do with the flood of porn into their developing brains.

Why do Americans watch so much more porn than anyone else? My suspicion is that its because we’re ashamed of sensuality and sexuality, so restrict it to our darkened rooms.

Young men would learn much better lessons about seduction and sexual performance if they learned any sex from women, whether girlfriends or sex workers. Or at least read something useful like She Comes First. As it is, young American men seem to be terrible lovers whose unifying characteristic seems to be an assumption that every girl really wants them to stick it in her ass.

At least no fap is moving in the right direction, as far as porn. Now men need to learn how to pleasure a woman, and to control and heighten their own pleasure.

OwenWentFullMGTOW · 2022-11-14T12:45:06+00:00

Honestly, guilty as charged. At least in my case. I don't know (and don't care) what anyone else's perspective might be.

Men are visually stimulated and are therefore uniquely vulnerable to the damage caused by freely accessible porn, including the various mental health risks going on. And I applaud any man who opposes the consumption of porn, whether it's for moral/religious, health or whatever other reasons.

Things like #NoFap and No Nut November are great and I hope they continue.

No, I don't have two fucks to give what porn does to women. Because if nothing else, women enter that industry of their own choice. Plus, female porn stars earn a tidy living. Men earn far less, incidentally. Which nobody seems too worried about.

Men did not ask to have the type of sexuality that we do. Nor did we ask for it to be exploited in this way.

So, kudos to that crybaby commenter. She's certainly got my number. I don't care about the damage porn does to women. That's their problem.

EDIT- One interesting fact is how that commenter acknowledges that porn can harm men. That fact isn't in dispute. And yet, "the empathetic sex" is still myopically focused on their own issues rather than ours. Frankly, I would've tolerated it if she'd been more ecumenical about it and said "porn harms women AND men". But nope, it's all about her and her problems.

[deleted] · 2022-11-14T12:46:01+00:00

I just love the irony. I bet these are the same people who whine about people who complain about only the women’s side of things like domestic violence and sexual assault being called out. But now all of a sudden it’s ok to whine about the fact that only the men’s side of something is being called out? I thought calling out only one side of things doesn’t invalidate the other side. Or at least that’s what those people keep saying. These people just don’t stop contradicting themselves.

Knight_Errant25 · 2022-11-14T13:03:57+00:00

Oh no, God forbid men prioritize their own needs over women (as women themselves do over men). We can't possibly have self aware men, the only good men are the ones who sacrifice their own mental health to dangerous degrees to be a stepping stone for women who more often then not don't care that they cause much of the male suicide rate.

Gevlyn507 · 2022-11-14T15:30:15+00:00

And then they're off to only fans to get their paycheck. Pick a lane lol

BloomerBlorbZ · 2022-11-14T13:08:23+00:00

So if porn are bad, then why are they (304s & TradThot Pick Me Girl/Women Chameleons) still continued sexually objectifying themselves online and or on social media platforms during in their personal inner private lifestyles? What's wrong with the No Fap & the NNN?

Oh yeah that's right, they just wants your wallet to buy their videos & images and doesn't want to lose their own entitled narcissistic privileges.

BLACKWINGSgocaw · 2022-11-14T08:44:43+00:00

They're right about one thing and it's "... because they can't do it in real life". Yeah I can't do it in real life. Fantasy is different from reality. In a fantasy, I can take someone's life and, a few minutes later, do it again. In reality, I can't. Most of us aren't wrong enough in the head to do something like that. I can't abuse someone like that. I can't hurt someone like that. Not in real life.

blub_blubb · 2022-11-14T14:40:49+00:00

They always make everything abt themselves

gadzikk · 2022-11-14T17:34:28+00:00

dumb feminists suprised not everything is about them episode 12345. btw guys who are antiporn talk about these points too, just because they concentrate on what hurts them in the first place doesn't mean they don't care about these issue

soundstage · 2022-11-14T17:56:48+00:00

Step back and think for a moment, about the kind of brain and mind that individual must be possessing inside their skull to come up with something like this. I am so happy to know and realise that my brain isn't so badly messed up like that.

Heterodynist · 2022-11-14T18:37:33+00:00

Okay, first of all, I couldn’t care less about participating in “No Nut November.” I will nut any time I feel like it, and no one needs to know whether I am or not either. Meanwhile though, nobody AT ALL is harmed by No Nut November. People privately not “nutting,” and women who are voluntarily showing their bodies, are not being harmed in any way. This idiot author is proposing that a month of abstinence causes harm somehow, and that women who feel like posting pictures or videos of themselves are also harmed by…um…something?!! What, I have no idea…

Let’s start with using this person’s own words against them. “PORN CULTURE.” Okay, so if porn is a culture, and it has many adherents, then it qualifies as a kind of ethnocentrism to attempt to destroy that culture, am I right? What right does anyone have to be critical of a culture that isn’t their own (using the values of Feminism as the lens for what is acceptable…just to show how inconsistent this author’s views are).

So do women feel “empowered” by being able to make tens of thousands of dollars on Only Fans, just for being themselves, exposing themselves and doing whatever audiences want to pay them to do? This is supposed to be HARMING them? I haven’t seen men getting paid tens of thousands of dollars on Only Fans. Is THAT fair? Who is exploiting who?! Maybe this person who claims to be so knowledgeable about the industry, could explain who “THEY” are, who are supposedly “recruiting” these women. To the best of my knowledge, a sizable amount of the total number of women who post their naked bodies online -on sites like Reddit or Only Fans- are doing so completely unforced. I would call that “empowering” if I didn’t think it was purely a form of exploitation OF MEN, because the dominant system favors women appearing naked and being paid for it, mostly BY MEN, so it amounts to a biased system whose primary one-sided bias is to funnel money from men to women.

Also, let’s address another fantasy here: Women of color are (perhaps sadly or wrongly) not the majority of the women who are paid for posting their pornography. It’s actually a majority young, healthy white women in pornography…with less of many other “races” and ethnicities after that majority. This follows virtually the entire history of the entertainment industry, for as long as it has existed in the United States at least…

Okay, AND ANOTHER THING…Did this woman just step out of the Victorian era with her “medical theory” that “overnasturbation” causes erectile dysfunction, changes to the brain, and other medical problems?!! Can we see some kind of evidence from that (preferably anything published after about 1945)? To the best of my knowledge masturbation causes NONE of these problem, and I has been shown repeatedly to be quite healthy for the body of most men (and women), with the exception of those with serious cardiopathologies. If you’re not healthy enough for intercourse, then you’re probably not healthy enough to be masturbating for hours to porn, since that DOES tend to up your heart rate. Of course, that’s also exactly why it’s healthy for those who DO have a healthy heart…But setting all that aside for a moment, isn’t No Nut November about NOT masturbating?! Does this person even have any clue at all what they are even criticizing?

CommissarSteel56 · 2022-11-14T18:52:42+00:00

Why are feminists complaining? It was their movement that said being a pornstar was and is empowering to women.

CentralAdmin · 2022-11-14T21:49:38+00:00

In their minds women working for or pleasing men is wrong. But men working for or pleasing women is right. Men having access to visual stimulation that appeals to their sexuality is wrong but her porn use in the form of novels like 50 Shades of Gray (a bestseller despite how poorly written and rapey it was) is right.

They are attempting to position female sexuality as morally superior. And that men need to change for women's benefit because their suffering is somehow worse than men's, even though men do more dangerous and dirty jobs to keep society running.

That and these women are insecure about men having access to videos of women who are younger and thinner than they are. That's really it. All the other excuses are bullshit justification. It's really about controlling men's sexuality so their attention and money can go to them instead of a hotter, younger woman who is showing herself to be more sexually available.

Women don't want to do the work of being sexually available to the same degree nor even stay in shape. They don't even want to be nice to men. But they want men's attention and money and to benefit from their labour. It is no wonder so many men are opting out through video games and porn instead of courting a modern, entitled, overweight bitch who thinks she is better than the men around her.

tacticalsauce_actual · 2022-11-14T22:07:27+00:00

Wait... I thought we weren't supposed to shut shame..

Doesn't the idea that barely legal teens are being "taken advantage of" imply that what they're doing is wrong?

Thats not very sex positive sweaty 💅

Title	Apparently it's wrong for men to be supporting eachother now! 🙄
Author	SteamyCrack
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Date	November 14, 2022 2:17 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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