Why?

Scorpio_Kiev · 2022-03-02T15:45:43+00:00

Did you just call Matrix shitty?

Brighr51 · 2022-03-02T16:32:39+00:00

It depends on what you define as 'bad urges'.

If you're talking about the content dating coaches spew, some of it is incredibly toxic, but some of it does hold up - 'shit testing', for example. The reasons and nuances for why women shit test are dependent on the person.

Redpill does encourage men to 'shit test' too and/or be aware of it, but there are some cases these games of 4d chess can turn into narcissistic abuse from both parties.

I try to be as honest as I can with my intentions towards people. In the dating scene, I do still look out for 'shit testing' to see if the woman is toxic (over stepping boundaries or pushing my patience etc). I believe there is reasonable 'shit testing' and then there is someone trying to see how much they can get away with and take from you without being questioned and this applies to both men and women.

Pomeranian111 · 2022-03-02T14:49:47+00:00

I went the redpill path because my current route didn't get me where I wanted.

Unfortunately found out that even redpill couldn't help me, no women would ever choose me as their partner. My personality is as repulsive as my looks.

Naus1987 · 2022-03-02T15:39:19+00:00

People are drawn to Red-Pill content, because despite all of its inherent flaws and problems -- it has one shining beacon -- it's a safe space for men.

The world is full of terrible people. And men, just like everyone else suffer from terrible people. Men get cheated on. They get lied to. They get beaten and abused. They get gas lit, manipulated, and betrayed.

But they can't go to shelters. They can't call for help. They can't appear weak, because society will just chew them up and spit them out. "Just man up and knuckle through it!"

I think a lot of men inherently recognize the problems associated with Red Pill culture, but also need the breath of fresh air that they can express their pain and frustration of being a victim without being judged for it. And often times, they're comforted in Red Pill groups.

A guy shares his story of someone cheating on him in a Red Pill group, and you get 50 stories of other men all EMPATHAIZING with him. Talking it through, what worked, what didn't work. They heal together. Red Pill for many, has become a safe space. And that's why it grows.

Now obviously the elephant in the room is that some men take things way too far. And instead of acknowledging that being cheated on should just represent an individual situation. But when you get 50 others echoing the same thing. It turns 51 unique occurrences into a trend.

Then you get the problems. People on the outside see those trends, and wonder what the hell is wrong with women. And then the hostility shows.

The real problem isn't that red pill shows a lot of women as terrible people. But rather all people are equally capable of terrible things. For every trend of women cheaters -- there's a trend of men rap*sts. Feminism uses the same thing to scapegoat good men. Both groups uses actual terrible events to extrapolate and paint the other gender as terrible people.

But until all those wounded men find legitimate safe-spaces to express themselves and be healed -- Red Pill will always be appealing. And that's why trying to crush the movement will never work. Hurt people will always need solace. And you can't just -wave your hand- and wish it better.

I understand the ethical pitfalls of red pill, and I strongly always recommend people explore the context of situations. Women and men are absolutely equal in great things and terrible things. I always urge men to look for red flags. And if they see them -- DO NOT DATE that person.

I feel like the world is slightly getting better as people have become more aware of red flags and how to screen for them. Because even if we all acknowledge that Red Pill is bad, it won't erase the truth that a lot of women (and men) are just terrible people.

We should never hate entire groups of people based on things like race or gender, but we can't do the reverse and just assume everyone is an awesome, great guy or woman either. Because the truth is, a lot of people are just shit.

xvszero · 2022-03-02T17:35:17+00:00

The Matrix was awesome, but the way MRAs co-opted the reference for something the creators absolutely do not agree with... not as awesome.

Title	Why?
Author	Ol-Sinnerman
Upvotes	7
Comments	19
Date	March 2, 2022 9:05 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/ExRedPill
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