A genuine question

antonio_da_man · 2019-06-15T23:28:26+00:00

A lot of the banter in this sub against women is due to the bad ones that are highlighted in mainstream media. I would personally love to be in a relationship, however, I cannot bring myself to trust women and their common antics.

Borsao66 · 2019-06-15T23:41:46+00:00

Fish never tell the fisherman what the best bait is.

So go fish elsewhere.

ChemicalRestraint · 2019-06-15T23:34:58+00:00

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MaGeTOW · 2019-06-15T23:48:53+00:00

if some of you guys still pursue relationships with women

No.

if you believe that there could be a girl who is different from the rest?

Anything is possible but I value my time too much to be out there looking.
What do you think is the ideal woman in the eyes of a man?

GrisBosque · 2019-06-15T23:46:41+00:00

Some are morons... Some learn faster than others...

And those games you really love?

Well they hurt people. But not to worry! its just the men who do everything you depend on.

ChemicalRestraint · 2019-06-16T00:34:38+00:00

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Vaxel00 · 2019-06-15T23:52:06+00:00

Every girl is different from the rest...

Till they're not.

strongandhappy · 2019-06-15T23:55:31+00:00

I'm done pursuing. If a woman entered my life and proved her value I wouldn't turn her away, but I would never marry or cohabitate. I don't care whether or not this happens.

TacoSupremeVictory · 2019-06-16T00:10:13+00:00

This sums everything up.

SirYouAreIncorrect · 2019-06-16T01:05:29+00:00

wanted to ask if some of you guys still pursue relationships with women

No

if you believe that there could be a girl who is different from the rest?

Does not matter, for me it is not about an individual female actions. It is the social and legal power imbalance that makes the risk far far more than the reward. While women claim to be oppressed in reality women can destroy the life of a man in several ways with words alone.

This power imbalance is the same reason i will never have children, because in today's legal world they can never be my children as mothers have more rights than men do, men are seen at best as a bank and at worst an abuser of children. Story after story of fathers being accosted a parks because they tried to have time alone with their children in public only to be accused of abusing or kidnapping their children....

MGTOW to me is social and legal risk avoidance, largely due to feminist ideology taking over family courts and criminal law.

ChemicalRestraint · 2019-06-15T23:40:48+00:00

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laptopdragon · 2019-06-16T01:41:59+00:00

I'm reminded on a daily level that women are arrogant in their ignorance. I see it everywhere and yet nowhere have I ever met a female to be generous, or rush into danger to help another, or 99 other scenarios.

While I don't know everything, and yet know I am generalizing here my point is that modern women are not worthy of the risk involved from men that they demand.

The demands are utterly insane and the consequences from a man making a mistake will destroy him (and possibly his families) lives while women are above all laws and logic.

You ask if there could be a girl different from the rest, and I would say yes. However, only yes in a manner of a short amount of time. Women are the best at womanipulation and tricks, to get what they want, but there's literally no evidence that any man has ever been successful in keeping his wife happy for their entire lives.

This is for our timeline, not WW2 when 90% of men perished (in the name of freedom that modern women are trying to destroy). No, those surviving 10% (or whatever %) of men were sought after in a time when all the things were reversed.

Todays man and woman are supposedly equal (albeit not at all) and yet modern woman still demands men to take all the risk, and at the drop of a hat lose everything b/c she gets bored or changes her mind?

There would have to be a reversal of our laws that protect men as much as they do women. There would have to be a massive restructuring of the fake brainwashing going on in todays media and education system.

Now, I think your question should be two separate questions. I only see one question in where you ask if men seek relationships with women if there was the one, and this is rather vague.

Are you asking if men still seek women for a variety of reasons or for marriage?
Are you asking if modern marriage is possible for both men and women?

or, are you asking if men have woken up to the absurdity of marriage in todays climate?

It all depends on what each of us see. If our parents were strong, stayed together, showed support and were faithful then yes, the odds are that guy would say yes. Also, that guy would be a prime target for womanipulation. Then he might wake up.

While the real world, where billions of people live, and see on a daily basis is that women use and abuse everything they possible can. I don't think I've ever witnessed a female who risked anything without gaining something else in return. Not saying men do this on the daily, but my point here is moot.

to summarize;
I would like to believe in it, the fairytale, and it might somewhere, someplace but afaik, it doesn't in modern society.

If it had a chance, it would be like this.

we're all born with 100% of love/lust/whatever it is.

when we first fall in it, we give 100%, and if that 100% isn't returned we never get it back. So the next time we try we only have 75%, and when that fails we're down to 50%, and for many modern women, they are in the .000000086% of what they can offer. I see it all the time, woman iso true love or her soul mate, but has 3 kids with different fathers.... Her only shot was with her first, and after that she's just a drain on resources and the children suffer, and grow into worse.

so, to win at modern life is to stay as far away from females as possible.

If a man becomes the wealthiest, most powerful man in the land, then he has a ^small chance at finding a cultured, worthy mate but also a 99% chance of her divorce raping him asap.

[deleted] · 2019-06-15T23:44:53+00:00

Only ever on one circumstance: they better be willing to sign an iron clad prenup. On tape. With both of us having lawyers present explaining what it says, and showing the signature. If they are not willing to do it, they want something from me on the backend.

OatsGYOW · 2019-06-15T23:49:15+00:00

Unicorns are like gambling at a roulette table. You threw caution to the wind, bet everything, then landed your number!

...now roll again next year to see if she changes.

(Hint: she will)

edwardbrock27 · 2019-06-16T01:03:23+00:00

No. I'm older now, own properties, two businesses, one of which is very successful. When a man makes it to this level he doesn't seek relationships. By this point I must have slept with half of the married women in my city. It's disheartening when I think of the sheer volume of messages I've received from married women pledging love for me and promising to get divorced so we can be together. Im not even handsome.

These are grown adults who told a man "till death do us part", and I'm cumming on their tits in an empty rental house that doesn't have the electricity turned on. A sports car and a well tailored suit is all it took to have a never ending stream of desperate housewives attempt to throw away everything at home for the slim chance at a quality of life upgrade with a man who makes more money.

I will admit that I expected to get more pregnancy claims over the years, but I've only had four of these take place, which is actually surprising. The vasectomy 20 or so years ago allows me to carry on this way, and I do take perverse joy in letting them know face to face. Cheating women, caught in yet another lie. Wide eyes, followed by fury, every time. I do wish it happened more often.

Whenever I have the chance to meet another up and coming young man considering a relationship, I tell them my system. I show them pictures of my high school sweetheart, and her current profile picture to see what she looks like today. As an old bull says to a young bull, why run down the hill to scare up one sow, when you can walk down the hill and have them all.

Maybe some women are faithful. My rental properties haven't met any such broads yet.

ChemicalRestraint · 2019-06-16T01:09:52+00:00

I don’t know to be honest. Right now I have a fwb, we basically only hang out to bang, she likes how i fuck her. So i just disregard women until she messages. I guess when im close to 45 and losing my virility i could see myself popping out a kid or two with like a 35 year old chick. She would have to have her own income too tho and have her own place so we can live apart. the arrangements for custody and care taking would be discussed prior.

Blissbynature · 2019-06-16T01:35:41+00:00

Do you agree with the way you as an 18 year old woman have been taught to view men by your parents and teachers? What do you think is a fair and balanced relationship between the husband and wife in a marriage? What is the attitude towards sex and morality that your friends have? What is your own opinion about sex and morals?

OutlawCircumcision · 2019-06-16T01:49:45+00:00

A virgin would be nice but that is a thing of the past when you hit ~~mid 20s~~ 18.

https://i.imgur.com/42AWZtp.jpg

crityouallday · 2019-06-16T02:11:30+00:00

Finding a girl who is different does exist. Its just however extremely rare.

Example: https://youtu.be/12QInvCZowU

So why search. Im preety sure I dont have to lift a finger someone out there is finding me and all Inhave to do is smile and say no.

Society has created a lot of sheep and lied to them. Dating, marriage is a sham. Even if we say I will live to 100 years old. Thats an incredibly short time, I will not waste my efforts on females but rather finish my dreams and hobbies. However rich I am successful I am and happy I am, no woman has ever helped.

Mr_M0t0m0 · 2019-06-16T02:34:45+00:00

The socio-economic-political-judicial structure of the USA has been co-opted by feminism and has been poisoned and venomous against males for years at this point. There is no benefit to the modern male to be involved in ANY way with the American female.
Dating is off the table.
Cohabitation is off the table.
Marriage is off the table.
If the American female wants to be on a sex strike, then the American male is on a relationship, attention, and financial strike!

RedPillConfessions- · 2019-06-16T03:19:45+00:00

Woman are not genuine. There is always some secret, some drama, some bs waiting to happen.

After getting death threats, losing my job, and almost thrown in jail for some BDP female; I will have to say never again. It’s just not worth it.

All woman offer is vagina. I can get my own money, learn everything by myself etc etc.

And even if some perfect vagina comes my way. I will hope in my car and drive away.

Females just want comfort. Would you marry a 100% broke homeless man and live In the street or wilderness day n day out.

No female would.

I’ll just put my mc Donald’s hat and uniform on and keep it moving.

In some translation a wife stands for a female that has your back in war. Kinda like your sniper that has your back.

I think most females would lose they’re fucking minds in war. Especially the crazy ones. They would prob just pull the trigger and blow their brains.

This is not comforting at all.

bamabeatsny · 2019-06-16T04:10:28+00:00

Yes. Be a virgin. A virgin is different than the rest. And on top of that, she wants to be committed to ONE man, and one only. Forever. She wants to reverence him, serve him (not use/manipulate him), in a traditional capacity the way marriage is supposed to be, look good for him and him alone - and sex. Lots of it, and don't deny him. You do that.... .and you'll have a man who loves you like crazy, will provide for and protect you, and do everything he can to blow your mind in the bedroom. He'll want to be a good husband and father. And then, continue that and be good models (both) for your kids.

waxqube · 2019-06-16T11:03:18+00:00

No. I don't enjoy being the provider and doing all the work while the women sits there and looks pretty. And I hate the way women communicate indirectly. I have never met a woman who is different from the rest. I would rather have peace.

Now please go away.

alup132 · 2019-06-16T02:06:27+00:00

Couldn’t tell you. Honestly I’m just here to laugh at these posts, I don’t believe in their ideology.

cryptotim70726 · 2019-06-15T23:50:43+00:00

I think that might be the only genuine "genuine question" a woman has ever posted here. I seriously thought this was going to be another "genuine question" troll. Thank you for being original but I don't feel like answering your question.

Title	A genuine question
Author	ChemicalRestraint
Upvotes	0
Comments	54
Date	June 15, 2019 11:27 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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