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[β]rmullen1282208 points209 points210 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
That's how fucked our system is. Not only should he NOT be forced to pay child support, but the whore mother should have to reimburse him for all the years he took care of that kid, food, clothing, schooling, school supplies etc. Such bullshit!
[β]Skypier63 points64 points65 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The system is more fucked up that "Florida man". What a world we live in
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[β]SoYouLikeShitposts15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Florida systems being the way they are is the reason Floridaman exists. Floridaman is the reason the Florida systems are the way they are. Its a never ending Mobius strip of bullshit and fuckery.
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[β]hassydichammer0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Further down the spiral
[β]mkultra331 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Florida man bout to turn into the the ---> π€‘π±β RIP.. lool
[β]-Fender-14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Right. He should be the one suing for fraud.
[β]Noitrasama3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can he sue the state & win?
[β][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Anyone got the story behind this? Are they married? Did he sign the certificate?
[β]fiZee-x118 points119 points120 points 6 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
In this case the only way to prevent such travesty is full monk. Avoid women on a social basis with the exception of family or unless you must interact with coworkers, customers, etc. Misery is every mans fate when dealing with such creatures so remain vigilant.
[β]john2123215 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You are absolutely correct, and itβs a sad shame. What a time to be alive. :(
[β]BobbingForBunions10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
To me it's not a shame. I avoid tigers and black bears just like I avoid women.
Meanwhile, I have more time and mind space to pursue my own interests (running a company, playing chess, writing, etc.).
[β]xXx420VTECxXx0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I also couldn't play chess till I avoided bears
[β]CpuDoc6781 points82 points83 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I've heard of that crap before. If you act in the role of the father for X number of years you are stuck. That is a damn nightmare π‘
[β]ThanatosCharon58 points59 points60 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a corrupt legislature supported by a corrupt judiciary and enforcement arm of a corrupted government system. I've always assumed these laws were presented and passed by a politician who's daughter was whoring around got knocked up. It's total bullshit. It makes no sense that this shit ever happens.
[β]Exactly_what_I_think22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you act in the role of the father for X number of years
Yep 3 years. He signed the birth certificate and did not find out for a year. He was seeking visitation rights.
Apparently the child support was not terminated correctly and THE STATE responded to the judge and got the theft reinstated.
[β]ratchet_hd59 points60 points61 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I was ordered to pay and took 7 years to remove it even proving I was in Kuwait when the kid was conceived. Floriduh family courts treated me like a monster, luckily all 3 of my commands were understanding and let me take off for that bs and even had a JAG accompany me once which is when the state backed off. Its hell on men. Effin you get for the effin you didnt give!
[β]Chaos199025 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit, 7 years of being robbed for something you could not have done. That is unreal.
[β]ratchet_hd26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
She filed for state benefits and named me as the dad without my knowledge because our exes started dating and said it was her "revenge" the state didnt care who and thats who I was fighting, not her.
[β]MiG35ToW13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So wait, anyone can name Elon Musk as the daddy?
[β]ratchet_hd7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thats what Im guessing. I got a letter in the mail saying report to court and had to fight tooth & nail to end it
[β]jself12344 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Elon is my daddy
[β]arokosi1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol
[β]xXx420VTECxXx0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Jag?
[β]ratchet_hd0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Military lawyers. If something is affecting mission readiness offpost they will assist but mainly handle military law
[β]DangZagnut46 points47 points48 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Good thing this will never happen to me because alligators are wonderful feeding machines.
[β]JohnnySkidmarx14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I heard Alligators enjoy judges as a snack.
[β]FlyingDisaster_YT9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
hmm 3
[β]Pm_Dogs_or_Nudez2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
So are pigs.. they don't even leave behind bones and are a lot cheaper to maintain.. just chop up the bits for them to make it easier.
[β]DangZagnut0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Plus bacon.
[β]LuvMeTendieLuvMeTrue0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Do you know what nemesis means?
[β]Pm_Dogs_or_Nudez0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Punishment or defeat that is deserved and unavoidable..
Your point being?
[β]LuvMeTendieLuvMeTrue0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Brick Top : You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together.
Sol : Would someone mind telling me, who are you?
Brick Top : And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it's no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig shit, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, "as greedy as a pig".
Vinny : Well, thank you for that. That's a great weight off me mind. Now, if you wouldn't mind telling me who the fuck you are, apart from someone who feeds people to pigs of course?
Brick Top : Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me.
[β]Pm_Dogs_or_Nudez0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, might have to come to that..
[β]MikeRocksBoat41 points42 points43 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There is no doubt in my mind that as long as this socio-legal system continues, even GYOW wont be enough. They will make "Sponsor a thot and her spawn" mandatory.
[β]MovieReviewMgtow32 points33 points34 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We already have that, men pay a net positive in taxes into the system while woman are a net drain. We literally pay them to exist.
[β]MikeRocksBoat7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True, but there is still a veneer of "equality" in the current form. Since it goes through the government there is system overhead and loss, and the women have no one specific to blame if the government doesn't give them their portion of the spoils.
I'm talking an actual forced sponsorship program, where you are made responsible for women and their spawn, with no say or reward.
It will start using 'shaming' language. Some form of 'Help thy neighbor+women n children first'.
Then it will become mandatory servitude, in the interests of "safeguarding" women.
Won't be long before they decide it is better these provider men are "fixed", as it will make the man-slave more pliable and less aggressive (for his OWN sake), while the woman enjoys histhe geldlings labor and continues her breeding and brooding, with the rich and/or stallions.
The simps won't mind the above. And the pussy-whiffer-sniffers outnumber us all.
[β]Pm_Dogs_or_Nudez4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's the day blood will flow on the streets..
I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
Parasites need to be exterminated for the vermin they are, human or not.
[β]ken_oath_mate28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How does this not violate the 13th amendment?
The courts are literally forcing the man to work (if he doesn't work, he can't pay, so he goes to jail) to provide for some kid that is not his. Sounds like "involuntary servitude" to me.
[β]formerlydeaddd[S] 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's happening. I first heard about this happening over two years ago and I've since read dozens of stories of men forced to pay for the rearing of a child that is not theirs.
[β]RealBiggly10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Involuntary servitude has long been a thing for men when it comes to "child" support.
[β][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not a murderous person but this is the kind of thing that may push me over the edge. I hope no woman ever does this go me, because I can't guarantee I'll respond humanely.
[β]delongpike21 points22 points23 points 6 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
Courts heavily favor the woman in any case.
My story. I knocked uglies with a woman but did not dicide to stay around for a relationship. 6 years later she claims I am the father of her 4 year old child AND that the stated father was not.
This started a series of events of the real father losing visitation and me being called into family court for assignment of payments. I refused to go to family court in the neighboring state so they had my state act on their behalf. I was told to go to the office of children and youth to pick up paperwork and visit with the state β I again refused. I was told I would be served by the Sheriffβs office and 3 weeks later they finally caught up with me and I was ordered by the court tho children and youth.
When I got to the office of children and youth, they DID NOT WANT TO HEAR WHAT I HAD TO SAY. Period. I was told to chose between 2 βblood type matching testsβ or a βDNA testβ and was told several times the DNA test was very expensive should I be found to be the father.
I asked if I could pick all three tests, knowing I was not the father, and a supervisor (woman) came in and read me the riot act asking me who I thought I was etc. etc. Knowing they must have a legal representative overseeing the office I told her I wanted someone to call the same and ASK if I could request all three tests. She stormed out of the room. She then called a meeting of counselors. I waited 45 minutes and she finally came back in and said βYou can request all three tests, but when you are found to be the father YOU will have to pay the bill for the sameβ. So I signed for all three tests on me, the mother, and the child.
The mother and I had no problem giving blood, but it turned out the child was not allowing them to draw the blood. Both the state and the mother called me and literally begged to forgo the testing and proceed to a jury court. I said no. Then the state called and said I was not being fair to the child and that they needed to bring in a specialist from NYC to draw the childβs blood, then again asked me to instead proceed to a jury court. I refused. I was told at the time, with the specialist involved, the cost would be more than $5000 dollars and I would likely be stuck with the bill. I did not relent. 4 weeks later the specialist was able to meet with the child and draw the blood. When the results came in the first βblood type testsβ were tossed out by children and youth, and the DNA result showed there was a 99.9995% chance the child was NOT mine.
I then went to a hearing to close the case, and since I was a single father with 2 kids at the time I did not take a lawyer due to the other costs I had already incurred, instead I took my lawyerβs advice and asked that the case be dismissed βwith prejudiceβ. The county court lawyer then said if such a motion were to be approved he would ask for a jury trial. I was not wise enough at the time to understand he likely could not do the same, and the judge at the hearing refused to dismiss the case with prejudice β meaning the mother could come back to me with further claims at any time.
I wrote the judge twice over the years asking he close the case with prejudice, both times I received a letter back refusing to hold a hearing for the same. So I had a DNA test clearly showing I was not the father and yet the state refused to act on my behalf. This case soured me on state or governmental bureaucracy moving forward in my life. Men are the tax paying wallets of women and the state.
[β]SirYouAreIncorrect2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I refused to go to family court .... I again refused
To anyone else reading this they may find themselves in the same spot, this course of action is never Never a good idea. It will not simply "go away" if you ignore it or refuse. The proper course of action is to respond to the government with "i am not doing or signing anything with out proper legal counsel, i will speak with a lawyer and get back to you" Then find a good, men rights lawyer to work on our behalf.
Then the state called and said I was not being fair to the child and that they needed to bring in a specialist from NYC to draw the childβs blood
Had you had lawyer working on this for you, they would have called BS on this (if they did not then you had a shit lawyer) . There is zero reason they needed a specialist to draw blood, and in reality they did not even need to draw blood to establish paternity, your whole story sounds every weird to me.
since I was a single father with 2 kids at the time I did not take a lawyer due to the other costs I had already incurred,
While I understand the need to save costs, this is not a place you want to cut. NEVER ENTER A COURT ROOM with out a lawyer. Courts are a place filled with legal jargon, rules and procedures, many civil cases are won or lost based on the finer points of rules and procedures not on the facts of the case. We have a legal system not a justice system. Rules and Procedures are more important that facts
The county court lawyer then said if such a motion were to be approved he would ask for a jury trial.
Are you in the US I have never heard of a jury trial to set paternity and child support, there seems to be some key fact missing as to what the case was about and the Paternity as a side matter?
Further if the motion to dismiss with prejudice was granted the County would not be able to "ask for a jury trial" because there was no longer a case, there would be nothing for a jury to decide
[β]delongpike-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Damn chief - soy much? Anyhow, I am a bit shocked you would question the story that stems from a post highlighting a man forced to pay support for a kid proven to be SOMEONE ELSE's via DNA test.
At some point some redpilling would suit you well. Until then I say move forward fearlessly and continue to do the bidding of the system that oppresses you.
[β]SirYouAreIncorrect0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn chief - soy much?
So we have established you are a 15 year old child with a vivid imagination, now I question your story even more
Anyhow, I am a bit shocked you would question the story that stems from a post highlighting a man forced to pay support for a kid proven to be SOMEONE ELSE's via DNA test.
Because his story is based on how the legal system actually works, not based what appears to be a story written by someone who's legal background is watching Law & Order SVU
At some point some redpilling would suit you well.
Son I wrote the red pill book, I was MGTOW before MGTOW was a movement.
[β]Labyrinth2_01 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why donβt you sue the state?
Governments have Sovereign Immunity, you are only allowed to sue a government under the provisions they allow themselves to be sued under.
For example Civil Rights violation law suits are allowed in very limited circumstances as allowed under the laws and are often tossed due to the various communities the government has granted itself
[β]DigitalScetis-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is just messed up. I never knew it was that bad that any thot can look up a hook up from anytime, and anywhere, and just arbitrarily decree to the state "that's the father of this child now," and have the entire machinery of the state deployed to make it so.
[β]ronoda1222 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I urge all men to do mandatory paternity test before signing on the birth certificate.
[β]jself12343 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
And prenups upon marriage vows. I she truly loves you, she'll sign.
[β]RealBiggly10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Prenups are thrown out routinely, and automatically so when there's a child. Pushing "prenups!" is worse than useless, as it gives men a false sense of security
[β]zoom_zoom_zoom5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I disagree with you here. The prenup has value.
While the prenup could get invalidated in a court of law, itβs VERY worthwhile as a litmus test; if money/security is the womanβs prime driver, sheβll freak out at the concept of a prenup. Easy to determine; sheβs in it for the security, not for you.
[β]RealBiggly7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unless she's EVER spoken to ANY lawyer, or any of the legions of other divorced women out there, who will assure her that signing is fine, because it will be thrown out anyway.
Jeez dude?
[β][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Prenups don't do shit. Don't get married period.
[β]RPDunkleBomb0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women do not love. The second she thinks she has you tied down, say goodbye to respect, small kindnesses, compliments, sex, etc. That isn't love, that's fucking manipulation.
Don't fucking get married. See above. If you get married, you accept that you forfeit the above. She's not a unicorn; there are no unicorns. You're her flavor of the month, and she's not going to want vanilla forever.
[β]Zilo8819 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd burn everything I owned.
[β]den-kun17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At that point, Iβd just have to move to Mexico
[β]BetaBeGone15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
STOP CALLING KIDNAPPERS RANSOM CHILD SUPPORT!!!
[β]SpinPlates14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is exactly why MGTOW is shamed. Because without men footing the bill for single mothers, the government will have to step in and give more welfare.
If men keep waking up to the bullshit western society is putting us through I see a "bachelor tax" coming down the pipe.
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[β]ken_oath_mate10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I like it ... except that is punishing an innocent (the child) for the actions of the mother.
The woman doesn't care about the kid - the kid is just a means to an end - i.e. resources. Once you strip her of that opportunity, she will want nothing to do with the kid anyway.
[β]breathen1237 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
From my perspective, putting the kid for adoption in some corner of Russia is lesser of a punishment than letting him/her stay with the abusive whore of his/her mother, and whichever abusive stepdad she gets
In fact, I'd consider letting the child to grow feral in a jungle somewhere in Southeast Asia to be a lesser of both punishments
[β]KaitouNala8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only correct move at that point is to skip country to one that does not have an extradition treaty with america IMO.
[β]krisdang1118 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As a Non-American, I must say your system is fucked up.
[β]no_gal_friend0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
and people still want to come here.
[β]ToddTheOdd6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
As an infertile man that can never have kids, I've never had to worry about this. At least the "I'm pregnant and it's yours" thing.
I never told any of my girlfriends about my infertility. I was always waiting to see if one would try that shit on me.
Now that I've gone my own way, it doesn't matter anymore... bit still. ππ€ͺ
[β]RealBiggly3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Dude, no. That is literally no defense.
Just a few weeks back there was an infertile guy, doc told him there's no way you've ever had kids. Got his kids tested, not his. No relief, still had to pay "child" support.
[β]Labyrinth2_00 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hard to believe. I really want to see how fat can they go if he doesnβt pay.
[β]ToddTheOdd0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I think the difference is that it sounds like he was told after he "had kids" that he was infertile. Meaning that his name was already on the birth certificate.
I have no kids now. If a girl came to me and said "I'm pregnant", I'd immediately respond with "Well, I'm infertile, so it isn't mine."
I have the paperwork from my doctors stating I'm infertile. So, unlike the infertile guy you're talking about, there would be a paternity test before my name is put on the birth certificate, not a few years later. And yes, I'm stating it was a few years later, knowing nothing about this guy, simply because you said "kidS", and not "kid". Obviously he originally thought they were his.
ninja edit!: It would probably be a smart thing for all men to get tested to see if they are fertile or not, as soon as they can. I'm talking like around 14 years old. Nothing like knowing from square one that if she says "I'm pregnant", she's really saying "I cheated and don't want you to know, and you're betabux", or "I'm not really pregnant, but am hoping you will give me cash for an 'abortion' I don't really need... just want that money."
Just imagine how satisfying it would be to respond to "I'm pregnant" with "I'm infertile".
[β]RealBiggly1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Word to the wise - it doesn't matter if you have multiple doc certs, if you were married when she conceived.
That's the law.
[β]ToddTheOdd0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think, if you had documented proof you were infertile from way before you were old enough to be in highschool, let alone old enough to get married, that a pregnancy would be grounds for divorce based upon her committing adultery.
Because if you knew you couldn't have kids, how the fuck did she get pregnant? Is it the second coming of Jesus? Or was it the multiple cumming of Chad? Either way, you know it's not yours immediately, and can then start the ball rolling on getting a divorce before it's born, and also for getting a paternity test immediately upon birth.
I'm really not seeing the downside to knowing if you're infertile BEFORE entering into a relationship with a girl. If it's a sore point about not saying anything, then be up front about it. Tell her flatout that you can't have kids. That if she wants kids, she needs to be with someone else and move along. Be open about it with her friends and family. Just say "Oh, I can't have kids. It's a genetic thing" whenever they ask about grandkids.
One of the pieces of going MGTOW to me, is being able to see their bullshit and protecting myself. Knowing I'm infertile now means I'm protected from square one against pregnancy fraud. I'm not going to get married, have kids, get a divorce, pay child support for 3 years, and then find out I'm not the father. I know right now that I'm not the father. There aren't any girls saying I am... but even still... I KNOW I'm not the father. Ever.
[β]roy282821 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are lesbians that are forced to pay child support. The state is using whoever it can to avoid paying support.
[β]Encrypted5876 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sad it really is a womanβs world isnβt it. Poor guy :(
[β]thelookoutbelow6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's called "accepting a fatherly role" and exists in more places than just Florida. Watch your backs out there
[β]hypnotized4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wtf am I reading
[β]JihadNinjaCowboy5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would find the person who is in the decision making position for such a travesty and I'd give them a chance to make things right.
After that, its "Anything Goes".
[β]Bayonet_Hipshot6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Monk mode is the only way forward for men.
[β]Chakra_Devourer4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is wrong. They all know this is wrong. This is perversion of justice.
[β]yotsmungand905 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And then they wonder why people snap.
[β]MechaMatrix2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly if I was him, I would straight just fly out of the country and not come back.
[β]LiveTheTruth3211 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7591411/Florida-man-ordered-pay-child-support-DNA-test-proves-not-father.html
It's not even the mother's fault or the judge's but it is the Florida Revenue Service who appealed the decision of the judge. They just want their cut. Greedy bastards.
[β]NotGrounded11 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He found out he was not the father when he tried to get some custody of the child and the court ordered the child support for years said "prove your the dad" and he did with a DNA test than showed he was not the father. So he had been paying child support for a kid that was not his and he had no contact with because he was named on the birth certificate. The court then says keep paying for a child that is not his that he has no contact with and since he's not the father can't get to be the father...
If this is not proof of an out-of-control and anti-father family court system I don't know what is!
[β]RealBiggly1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is entirely normal if he was married to the woman at the time she got pregnant. You accept responsibility for any future pregnancy the moment you marry her.
[β]human3041 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Once that Chad's spawn calls you " Daddy " Be sure your life is over.
[β]proactive-defense1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Clown world.
[β]antifeminist31 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The state asked him to sign a claim that he will be responsible. He did because he trusted his wife. Only the mother/women knows that she didn't cheat on him, and so only she should sign the form. The purpose of getting the man to sign the form despite him not knowing if the kid is his, is to force him to be responsible for the woman's cheating.
[β]formerlydeaddd[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There should be a contract & the expecting mother should be liable down the road, if the father is capable of affording & obtaining a DNA tast that ultimately proves they are not the biological father.
[β]antifeminist31 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. But this is pure gynocentrism. If she were to sign the form and lie to the government, she could be held liable. Therefore, they get the guy to sign and hold him liable for her cheating.
[β]Zinista0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ouch
[β]BendekStormsaver0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude looks like Lucky from King of The Hill...
[β]Zhytom0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not even surprised anymore. That's how fucked up the legal system is. Don't get yourselves into shit like this, folks.
[β]bobgray10 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When will man stop living with women? When will they understand it's a shitshow and they only lose in the end?
[β]LuvMeTendieLuvMeTrue0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's only one rule regarding women: AVOID
[β]senior_chop0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man up! Marry! You are all incels! Who hurt you??? Puagh, mgtow for life
[β]DigitalScetis0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You'd have to think that if the real father had better income than the man on the birth certificate, the thot would pretend that the guy on the birth certificate didn't exist, and go after the real father.
In fact, if you take the state of legal paternity today to its logical conclusion, whoever the biological father is, or the legal father is, really doesn't matter too much. It is whatever father the thot declares by arbitrary decree, meaning any of the myriad of men she slept with could be declared the father by her, meaning that whatever man has the greatest income will have to pay.
And then we wonder about the rampant cheating? The rapacious hypergamy? The divorce raping? And all of that?
The law gives wives and mothers an incentive to sleep with as many strange men as she can, because if the husband, or the baby daddy, or any of her lovers don't pan out economically over time, she can dump the financial burden on the man who does pan out economically.
[β]roy282820 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He will go to jail if he doesn't pay. The state and a woman cucked him into slavery.
[β]blondierespondy0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He probably didnβt go to his court date.
[β]Thirtysomething20190 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Put me in jail. I'll go on hunger strike.
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