CDC endorses infant genital mutilation. Drafts guidelines that recommend doctors attempt to convince parents to subjugate sons to the procedure. Remember MGTOW, the Hippocratic Oath and the all mighty consent are only serious when they apply to females.

TFCNU · 2014-12-03T14:36:38+00:00

I love the part at the end acknowledging that they're recommending a modification to people's bodies without their consent. It reads like that isn't a major ethical problem.

The HIV argument is absurd. It basically says that they are assuming men can't practice safe sex. I wouldn't fuck an HIV positive woman bareback just because I'm circumcised. I doubt the CDC would recommend that course of action either.

I'm all for consensual circumcision for religious reasons but to borrow a phrase, my body, my choice.

RaunchyFeet · 2014-12-03T13:27:47+00:00

The CDC recommendation is open for comment and reviewed for 45 days by health experts before being finalized. I am trying to find the link so everyone can respond, and I will update this comment with the contact information when found.

I just wanted to say that I was extremely surprised to hear this on NPR while driving home from work at the hospital this morning. I remember reading these African studies, and their methodology was highly flawed. They didn't factor in healing time for the circumcised group for starters. In addition, it demonstrated selection bias by only sampling adult men who volunteered for the surgery. There was no reason to assume that this represents a reasonable sample of intact men, and that's just the tip of the iceburg. Essentially, inferring infant circumcision benefits off of adult African circumcision studies of this quality is troubling. After their ebola response, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised about this.

stumbles047 · 2014-12-03T14:16:51+00:00

It says right in the article that circumcision is not to be recommended for newborns but that the CDC is encouraging doctors to talk with parents AND teenagers (infants don't talk well) about the health benefits and to be forthcoming with the fact that men who sleep around more will benefit more. The article alludes to this indirectly.

trphardmode · 2014-12-04T06:51:13+00:00

Canadian Paediatric Society:

"Recommendation: Circumcision of newborns should not be routinely performed." "Circumcision is a 'non-therapeutic' procedure, which means it is not medically necessary." "After reviewing the scientific evidence for and against circumcision, the CPS does not recommend routine circumcision for newborn boys. Many paediatricians no longer perform circumcisions."

Royal Australasian College of Physicians:

"After reviewing the currently available evidence, the RACP believes that the frequency of diseases modifiable by circumcision, the level of protection offered by circumcision and the complication rates of circumcision do not warrant routine infant circumcision in Australia and New Zealand."

British Medical Association:

"to circumcise for therapeutic reasons where medical research has shown other techniques to be at least as effective and less invasive would be unethical and inappropriate."

The Royal Dutch Medical Association:

"The official viewpoint of KNMG and other related medical/scientific organisations is that non-therapeutic circumcision of male minors is a violation of children's rights to autonomy and physical integrity."

German Pediatric Association:

"Therefore it is not understandable that circumcision of boys should be allowed but that of girls prohibited worldwide. Male circumcision is basically comparable with FGM types Ia and Ib that the Schafi Islamic school of law supports"

TheRedThrowAwayPill · 2014-12-15T07:38:16+00:00

With all due respect - anti-circumcision isn't a MGTOW issue par se. It's an atheist topic procured specifically for SJW/political reasons to spite followers of the Abrahamic fails.

With that said, if you're never going to procreate (because you're not going to father sons with women) then this is all a moot point.

RaunchyFeet · 2014-12-03T12:59:00+00:00

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