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ProgressTFCNU/r/MensRights14/10/14 12:33 PM
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Red Pill TheoryTFCNU/r/TheRedPill26/09/14 09:04 PM
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Blue Pill ExampleTFCNU/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 03:47 AM
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Back in the olden times, before 99% of the male spaces on this site were nuked from orbit, TRP used to describe itself as amoral. The goal was to confront the world as it is without injecting morality into it. The MRM is inherently moral. I appreciate your moral outrage here. But it still doesn't do anyone any good to deny reality. So, as an example, I agree that the red shirting idea is hamfisted and sends the wrong message. However, I'm not going to sit here and ignore the mountain of data tha…
/r/MensRights08/06/24 06:43 PM
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Engineering and tech programs are generally very small parts of a university's total enrollment. So, changing those percentages towards 50/50 doesn't do much to the overall ratio. Also, they usually have higher admission requirements. A guy that gets passed over for one of those programs probably still ends up getting a degree.
/r/MensRights25/05/24 10:21 PM
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Everything I can see tells me that the university admission rate is a symptom of how the education system works earlier on. Fewer male teachers, less time for PE/other physical activity, curricula that have de-emphasized competition. We have a system designed to help girls succeed and they are. Yes, there are some smaller STEM programs that will favour women in admissions but they're not enough to account for the ratio.
/r/MensRights25/05/24 07:05 PM
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Breathe, my friend. Gynocentrism isn't new. It's part of our biology (or repeatedly socialized to an extent that it acts as if it's biological). It underpins human civilization. We have to prioritize the protection of the limiting factor of reproduction. The alternative is extinction. However, how you choose to conduct yourself in life is entirely up to you. You have a long life in front of you. You can choose to do whatever you want with it. The social manifestations of human gynocentrism can b…
/r/MensRights11/05/24 04:16 AM
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The reason we talk about hypergamy/Briffault's Law is because that gives us a baseline for human action absent social restrictions. In a post-industrial world where traditional social pressures that enforced monogamy (religion and other levers of social shame) have eroded, our base instincts are more dominant. Even more so now that romantic, lust based love is seen as the primary reason for a relationship and the risks of unwanted pregnancy have been dramatically reduced. It is lovely to believe…
/r/MensRights05/04/24 10:38 PM
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Female hypergamy isn't a social creation. We can change our social mores all we like, it won't change human nature. So, yes, in all likelihood a partner who is interested in a long term relationship with you will be less economically successful. If you are lucky, you may be able to find someone at your income level. I am deeply sorry that this is causing you distress. I understand that you want a life centred around your children. But there are only so many realistic ways that you can achieve th…
/r/MensRights14/12/23 09:51 PM
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There's at least two reasons for the intersection. The first is guys like TFM and his ilk who view the loss of traditional gender roles as fatal to heterosexual relationships. They view that as the fundamental problem. Those guys do find tradwife types attractive as it offers a way to go back in time and live a lifestyle they view as safe and attractive. The second is more conventional MGTOW who view traditionalists as being just as bad as feminists but understand that the first group exists. Th…
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 06:03 AM
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You're asking for dating advice in the MGTOW sub-reddit. I don't think you need anyone to spell this out for you. Do what you already know you should do.
/r/MGTOW21/01/20 10:50 PM
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It's interesting. They has to do the pay increase because the Aussie league was outbidding them for top talent. The 50/50 revenue share thing is basically standard now in North American sports. The NHL and NBA salary caps are built around that principle. The fact that the WNBA has never made money is the issue.
/r/MGTOW15/01/20 07:49 PM
6

You mean the hyena originally voiced by Whoopi Goldberg?
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 07:54 PM
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If you're asking this question on this subreddit you already know what you want to do. Just do it. She'll be fine without you.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 05:41 PM
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How is it going to hurt him? What is going to change for the worse?
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 05:34 PM
2

Only if you're blaming white men for ignoring the fact that men are 2/3 of acid attack victims.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 09:26 PM
1

My Dad is a great guy and has always been a wonderful father to me. My mom and dad have been married for almost 50 years. Still in love. Why? Because my mother views as my dad as the man who saved her from a life she hated. He has been successful and provided. He's planning on working well into his 70's. She basically stopped working at 35. My Dad is fine with all this. He accepts the role he's expected to play, relishes in it. I won't do that. I understand what it takes to have a happy marriage…
/r/MGTOW06/06/18 07:01 PM
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If this is US data, Vietnam should not be underestimated. Draft dodging + PTSD.
/r/MGTOW04/06/18 07:25 PM
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Stokely's data is from a government survey. However, what other studies have shown is that men overreport the amount of sex they're having and women underreport.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 01:13 AM
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He comes off looking like a mad man. "Enforced monogamy" is not a solution to anything.
/r/MGTOW18/05/18 06:44 PM
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Because left/right has to do with what you believe the role of government is in society and almost nothing to do with the cost/benefits of marriage in the 21st century. So, for example, the fact that I believe that the profit motive does not lead the free market to effectively deliver health care services doesn't hinge on my understanding of gynocentrism.
/r/MGTOW18/05/18 02:50 PM
9

Yeah, holy shit. Uber is a thing.
/r/MGTOW06/04/18 06:07 PM
2

What do you disagree with? Why?
/r/MGTOW02/04/18 05:25 PM
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Women all have the same sexual instincts. That doesn't imply that they will behave identically. Only that their default programming leans in certain directions. Men are all the same too. Alpha and Beta is a useful explanation of women's often conflicting desire for protection (alpha traits) and provision (beta traits). Beyond understanding what women may be attracted to in a given partner, kind of useless. I certainly don't attach value to one or the other. I have no issue with independent women…
/r/MGTOW02/04/18 01:38 PM
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According to his Twitter, he's in final editing for a new vid.
/r/MGTOW21/03/18 07:49 PM
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This is totally getting overturned on appeal. I hope I'm wrong but there's very little discussion of law/precedent here.
/r/MGTOW16/03/18 07:37 PM
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Mary was the immaculate conception. Born without sin.
/r/MGTOW14/03/18 07:05 PM
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Bye Felicia
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 06:43 PM
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Even in the West it's about 85% of women and only about 80% of men who have children. What's changed is the number of children. That number has absolutely crashed. But that 80% of men is a generation virtually untouched by war (Iraq and Afghanistan were not demographically significant wars for Western countries). Historically, war and other catastrophes either wiped out large portions of the male populace or otherwise kept them from reproduction.
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 06:38 PM
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You're missing a piece here. We know from genetics that men are way less likely to reproduce than women. Women reproduce basically no matter what as long as they are physically able - even the ones you may view as undesirable. Men do not.
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 03:57 PM
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I like him because it was his videos that brought me to this community 8 years ago.
/r/MGTOW06/03/18 05:04 AM
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Bandwagon? The guy is pretty much the OG. Yeah, the book thing is sketchy but you have to respect his contribution to the community.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 11:50 PM
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He, like many people, has some good information on areas he's specialized in. If you want to know about personality traits, he's great. Past that... Kind of useless.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 08:50 PM
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Precisely.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 01:54 AM
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Wait. Is she calling biblical Joseph a rapist?
/r/MGTOW22/02/18 07:08 PM
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Bye Felicia.
/r/MGTOW22/02/18 06:48 PM
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I'm assuming you're new. Basic evolutionary instinct. Women need a man to protect and provide for them and their children.
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 07:11 PM
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"You see if you just elect enough conservatives, we'll eliminate all these gynocentric laws" lol.
/r/MGTOW17/02/18 09:36 PM
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Not a lawyer. Not American. However, given your verifiable medical history, I wonder if you couldn't find a good criminal lawyer to convince a judge that jailing you would represent cruel and unusual punishment. You owe it to yourself and your family to at least talk to the best criminal lawyer you can afford.
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 07:57 PM
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This is actually not bad (MGTOW bashing aside). Associative mating is absolutely a thing. However, one of the biggest determinants of who you believe is your in group is level of education. So, as long as there are more women than men graduating university there will be a surplus of highly educated women and a corresponding surplus of not highly educated men. That's a challenge no amount of self-examination will fix.
/r/MGTOW07/02/18 08:06 PM
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Wrong sub. Go White Knight somewhere else.
/r/MGTOW30/01/18 02:34 PM
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Yeah, TV dinners, cheap fast food. All big parts of it. Uber Eats and the like is only going to accelerate the problem.
/r/MGTOW29/01/18 07:39 PM
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There's a great chapter in The Anatomy of Female Power about how important cooking is to traditional female power. Amazing that women in my generation have just thrown that power away. I'm a much better cook than like 99% of the women in my generation. That's not even bragging. They're just, to a woman, incompetent.
/r/MGTOW29/01/18 07:31 PM
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Unless the government is in charge of r/feminism, no.
/r/MGTOW23/01/18 01:47 AM
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What does this have to do with Mrs. Doubtfire (which is about a divorced Dad doing everything to stay in his kids' lives).
/r/MGTOW19/01/18 06:35 PM
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That is not the hand-writing of an 11 year old boy.
/r/MGTOW03/01/18 01:39 AM
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gets force lightning to the face and thrown out a window "Absolute Cuckery!"
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 04:15 PM
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Women have always worked. Maids, charwomen, governesses, wet nurses, housekeepers, laundresses, etc. However, those women were either unmarried, widowed or extremely poor. Once women married, they were to become housewives. You needed someone to maintain the home and only women living with their parents or in communal accommodation could work outside the home. Even Scrooge, Dickens' famous bachelor and miser, spends money on female servants to maintain his home. It was a necessity. However, with…
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 02:25 PM
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He's legalizing weed. There are going to be rules but it will be legal next summer.
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 02:38 PM
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Talk to an employment lawyer ASAP.
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 07:40 PM
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Yes
/r/MGTOW29/11/17 01:31 AM
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She's in an uncomfortable position. On the one hand, she preaches traditionalism and marriage and should probably settle down soon to match her rhetoric. On the other hand, she knows that her following is filled with TradCucks who think that they could be her knight in shining armor. A married Lauren Southern is more ideologically consistent but less marketable.
/r/MGTOW27/11/17 06:28 PM
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You aren't completely wrong. A lot of politicians were never the cool kid growing up and crave public affection as a result. This includes sexual access, I suppose.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 07:49 PM
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Unicorns, by definition, don't exist.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 09:48 PM
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The study as far as I can tell says that because women now make more of their own money, marriage is no longer a massive windfall for them. It doesn't say that they are marrying down.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 02:24 PM
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So why are you here? r/mensrights is that way.
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 04:40 PM
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The divorce rate for hypogamous marriages is ridiculously high. I mean you'd get half her shit but you'd almost certainly end up divorced.
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 08:53 PM
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Also a not insignificant cancer risk.
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 07:55 PM
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C-51 is awful and almost certainly unconstitutional but this is an exaggeration.
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 06:39 PM
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The mods are putting in work but for now it's more lurking. The active : subscriber ratio and is way too high.
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 01:53 PM
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Here's what I'll say to you and any guy in an LTR. If you understand the drivers of human sexuality (both male and female) and the expectations that our society places on men based (largely) on those drivers and you still think that you benefit from the relationship with your girlfriend, go ahead, enjoy it. As much as I hate the "red pill" analogy, it's important to remember that you do have a choice. You can stay in wonderland.
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 03:56 PM
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We don't need to fight to win. We won when we decided to live our lives for ourselves. They can't stop us from doing that.
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 03:44 PM
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Women are not God denying you access to heaven. Take the pussy off the pedestal.
/r/MGTOW07/11/17 11:19 PM
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Traditionally, the Brahmin (upper caste) tended to be lighter skinned and the untouchables (lower caste) were darker skinned, I believe. They're pretending to be upper caste basically.
/r/MGTOW07/11/17 05:25 PM
5

Unfortunately, yes. The thirst is very real.
/r/MGTOW06/11/17 08:10 PM
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Hypergamy is not BS. It's a powerful driver of human evolution. It's also highly adaptive. Why does a Benz get her wet? Because she associates it with the ability to provide. Humans reproduce absurdly slowly. 9 month pregnancy + 12-15 years before the plumbing even works. So, in order to adapt to change we need mate selection to be highly adaptive. Fortunately for the species, hypergamy is. When hypergamy is unrestrained, it leads to bad behavior.
/r/MGTOW01/11/17 03:48 PM
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He basically admitted to sexually harassing a 14 year old boy when he was 26. He couched it as "sounds like something I might have done but I don't remember." If he had denied it, I would agree with you.
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 06:04 PM
1

Using "I'm gay" as a defense against pedophilia is pretty shitty. It's what got Milo dropped from Breitbart.
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 05:50 PM
1

If you haven't seen this takedown, you should. RBK, we miss you man. https://youtu.be/g35MHv3YE2E
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 04:34 PM
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I think the last line is the most important. "Happy to be here". You can be happy and MGTOW. You can't be happy and incel.
/r/MGTOW25/10/17 03:43 PM
1

Biology majors basically all want to be doctors. She clearly failed in that goal. You can do a bachelor's degree and get your nursing credentials (at least you can in Canada). So, this girl is clearly on plan B. And "plan" is being charitable. She doesn't identify how much nursing school is going to cost. She doesn't lay out how long it's going to take to get the credentials. Is she going to be waitressing when she goes to nursing school? All too much for her. Jesus Christ.
/r/MGTOW25/10/17 01:55 PM
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Any company big enough to worry about litigation. Even smaller companies if they've been burned.
/r/MensRights24/10/17 07:14 PM
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People get confused on this. Yes, a lot of HR professionals are true believers but the reason companies toe the line on this stuff is so they don't get sued. Having an HR department full of feminists is basically insurance.
/r/MensRights24/10/17 05:48 PM
2

Lol. Fair enough.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 07:55 PM
1

Just to expand. Peterson associates all atheism with Marxism which is false. God died in 19th century factories and on 20th century battlefields. Marxists merely celebrated his death. At any rate, Marxism is not the rejection of logos but a replacement of it. The manifesto as holy book. Postmodernism is the rejection of logos. Very different ideas but only coincidentally atheist.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 06:12 PM
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But that's where Peterson goes off the rail. Postmodernism is not Marxist for the reasons I outlined. It can't be. Feminists have incorporated some postmodernist ideas (e.g. gender is a social construct) into their Marxism-in-drag ideology but that doesn't make postmodernism, Marxist.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 05:57 PM
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This is a strange view of postmodernism. From first principles postmodernism would have to hold that oppression is entirely subjective. There are no absolute truths in postmodernism. The idea of a static oppressor/oppressed duality is antithetical.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 04:00 PM
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Are all women like that? Well, yes, it's just a matter of degree. Everyone gets hungry, not everyone gets fat. Hypergamy is the same. Some women do restrain their hypergamy instinct, but it's still there. The problem is our society tells them it's OK to be hypergamous. It's like the body positivity bullshit on steroids, to torture the analogy. If you have an instinct to act a certain way and the world tells you it's right, how many will question it? How thin is that tail of the distribution? I'm…
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 12:35 PM
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Yeah, they made a big mistake with the ending of that movie. Should have stayed true to the source material.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 12:22 PM
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The claims about health benefits were always more about hypergamy than anything else. That's why the effect was much more significant in men. Women choose wealthier, more genetically fit partners. Not surprising that those men are healthier than those not selected. Their marriages didn't make them healthier. They were always healthier.
/r/MGTOW13/10/17 02:53 PM
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Yeah, the Conservatives fucked this up. See they figured they were going to automate government payroll so they could shrink the government. Problem is they told the people they were about to fire to implement the new system. Sure enough, the system is now FUBAR'd beyond belief.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 04:01 AM
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Romance = male sacrifice. Therefore Titanic is romantic.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 01:10 AM
9

She doesn't control what you make of your life now. You don't have to be miserable. Go do things that make you happy. Make new friends. You are free.
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 06:57 PM
5

It was a decent question about Funchess' physicality as a receiver. Cam ended up answering her. Talking about how important the game against the Lions is for him (Detroit native, Michigan grad). What it speaks to is not so much her but the long list of sideline bimbos who can't tell a cornerback from a fullback. If her female colleagues asked better questions, Newton wouldn't have been surprised.
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 02:16 PM
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The circumstances under which Reagan brought in no fault divorce were quite different. The courts were filling up with phony at fault divorce cases. People falsely accusing each other of shit, agreeing on BS stories to tell the judge, etc. No fault was a way to stop all the perjury. The divorce rate was going up BEFORE no fault divorce came in. It's an effect not a cause.
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 03:09 PM
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Hypergamy is one of the main ways humans have evolved. For a species that reproduces very slowly we are shockingly adaptive. Hypergamy is the best explanation. Women are hard wired to try to pick the best mates. It can also explain things like why so many great sprinters come from the Caribbean but none come from the West African countries that those sprinters' ancestors were brought over from in the last few hundred years. For whatever reason, the sprinter physiology has become valued in the Ca…
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 01:41 PM
1

MGTOW is an archipelago.
/r/MGTOW29/09/17 12:50 PM
1

Anything by the late Murray Strauss from the University of New Hampshire will set him straight. IPV is reciprocal.
/r/MGTOW28/09/17 07:21 PM
99

She just lost the will to stay beautiful.
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 06:27 PM
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No, but single mothers get a whole bunch of stuff. Divorced women too through treatment of alimony and child support.
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 02:17 AM
94

It's more than this. There are, in most jurisdictions, tax incentives in place for married couples that are unavailable to single men.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 06:58 PM
12

Electricity Indoor Plumbing Globalization and the availability of cheap household goods Online dating
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 06:27 PM
2

What they don't mention is that the marriage gap between rich and poor is much wider among men than women. Rich men are more likely than rich women to be married and poor women are way more likely than poor men to be married. Hypergamy is a thing.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 12:51 PM
1

You need to be more confident in your self-worth. So, do things to make you proud of yourself. Set goals for yourself and then go out and achieve them. When you perceive yourself as a success, as valuable, you won't care when people talk shit.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 12:33 PM
4

Glad to hear it. One foot in front of the other, my friend. We'll get through.
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 07:05 PM
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Dude. Calm down. Don't do anything stupid. You will never win a fight against the government. You'll either die or go to jail for the rest of your life.
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 06:29 PM
1

Where do you think she gets the money to support all her good works?
/r/MGTOW08/09/17 12:38 AM
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Richard DeVos. Billionaire owner of Amway.
/r/MGTOW07/09/17 11:38 PM
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Gold digger who made a name for herself spending her husband's money. The title ix stuff is good though.
/r/MGTOW07/09/17 11:17 PM
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I actually filed a harassment complaint at my old job. The executive who used to head up my department didn't like it when I was promoted into the department. She was heading up a different department but she liked to stick her nose in. I was by far the youngest guy in the role and she'd go around bad-mouthing me behind my back and to my face, saying I was unqualified, too young etc. My work said otherwise and my co-workers knew it but it was a problem for me in the broader firm. After doing eve…
/r/MGTOW14/08/17 06:27 PM
2

According to wikipedia, there is some link to hormonal changes which may be why women are more likely to suffer from migraines than men.
/r/MGTOW14/08/17 06:14 PM
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It's so much worse: https://www.google.ca/amp/deadspin.com/witness-claims-ezekiel-elliotts-girlfriend-asked-her-to-1786320742/amp
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 07:36 PM
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If it's actually worth anything, talk to a lawyer. Oral contracts can have weight in law. Did you ever receive dividends or similar payments? For example, did she write you a cheque and say here's your share of the profits? Were you paid for the set up work or was it understood that you were working for equity/contributing to shareholders equity?
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 02:10 PM
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Like most tradcons, they ignore hypergamy and get the causation exactly backwards. Married men aren't wealthier because they're married, they're married because they're wealthier.
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 02:03 PM
1

ISTJ Openness 62 Conscientiousness 86 Agreeableness 2 Extraversion 3 Neuroticism 23
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 04:21 AM
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This is generally true because of hypergamy. MGTOW are a statistically insignificant portion of childless men.
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 04:04 AM
1

Demand =\= bubble
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 10:33 PM
1

People have been calling for a real estate crash in Canada for over a decade. Still waiting. The provinces and the feds have brought in Draconian measures to try to slow it down to no effect. I'm not saying that it won't go down but I would bet against a crash. You can't throw the keys on the table here without declaring bankruptcy. That's a huge difference when compared to the US crash.
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 07:58 PM
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Wynne's been bad but the province is actually doing really well. Lots of stuff being filmed in Toronto, the construction boom continues, the banks are still raking in cash. It's amazing how unpopular Wynne is given how good the economy is. She deserves to be unpopular but not because of the economy.
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 07:26 PM
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Here's the thing. I have "settled down" in all the important ways. I have a good job, own my own home, volunteer in my community. I drink maybe once a week, don't do drugs. I support my parents when they need it. I'm a good uncle. I'm a model citizen in a lot of ways. I'm also MGTOW so I'm single and childless.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 07:33 PM
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Jorah's Dad, Jeor, is a badass so it balances somewhat. Lynesse Hightower got with him because he won a tournament and left him when she realized he was poor (Bear Island sucks compared to Oldtown). She ran off with some rich guy from Lys. Martin might be a feminist but he understands hypergamy.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 06:40 PM
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The world is objectively more peaceful and prosperous than at any point in human history. We just know about a lot more of the shit than we used to.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 05:53 PM
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No. They aren't. Physical assault victimization is higher for men. Also, "involuntarily drugged" isn't a thing that happens IRL. Women who claim to have been drugged generally only have alcohol show up in their blood work.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 02:51 PM
3

Wow. You won't even admit that having children later in life presents risks to mother and child. Should the scientists at the CDC seek therapy? https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db152.htm
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 06:27 PM
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Questions for you: Do you believe that women, in general, prefer to marry someone of equal or higher economic status? Do you believe that there are inherent risks in women having children after 35? Do you think it reasonable that child support owed by non-custodial parents is a) not capped and b) almost impossible to get reduced due to economic hardship? Do you believe that intimate partner violence is a) largely reciprocal b) mostly men hitting women or c) mostly women hitting men?
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 06:12 PM
3

The missing single women are 50+. They bitch constantly about not being able to find a man their age.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 05:25 PM
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Kid, honestly, you're too young for this. But if you want advice: be a kid. Get good grades, don't get anyone pregnant and stick to softer drugs like alcohol and pot that won't cause you problems later in life. Come back once you've gone through the pubescent ringer.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 05:17 PM
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The data on hypogamous marriages (when a woman out earns her husband) is bleak. The marriages tend to suck. The divorce rate skyrockets. Here's an excellent study: https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/emir.kamenica/documents/identity.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj6jOjY4N7UAhWKx4MKHd2JCHEQFghkMAk&usg=AFQjCNHw6AYVK4dK30Kvv2SqIFOsDzrOtQ
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 07:29 PM
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It has nothing to do with good or bad women. I understand how looking at the posts here may distort your view, but that's really not the point. Here's the question: let's say I find one of your good women, how does my life change? Is the change positive or negative? In my view, it is inevitably negative. The expectations put on men in marriage are toxic. Men are expected to be protectors and providers and get what back? Companionship? The opportunity to have kids? It just isn't enough for me. It…
/r/MGTOW26/06/17 01:58 PM
1

Yeah, women I've turned down and friends of friends.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 05:48 PM
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95k at 31 in what could be generically called Supply Chain. Started out at in this industry at 24 making 30k. All about that upward trajectory. Never settle.
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 05:51 PM
2

I'm a liberal MGTOW. MGTOW is fundamentally apolitical. If you wanted to get political change you would ID as a MRA. Here's the thing: no politician of any political stripe is going to stand up to feminism. Nixon signed the Equal Rights Amendment. Reagan brought in no fault divorce in California. Gynocentrism is on both sides. So, I don't vote on men's issues. I vote on other policies. I happen to believe that the government has a role to step in if and when the free market fails. That's got not…
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 12:54 PM
1

"I hate to break it to you, but what people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard Morty then it leaves you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are going to do it. Break the cycle Morty, rise above, focus on science."
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 07:30 PM
1

Yes, two people can love each other but in heterosexual relationships it won't be for the same reason. Men and women want very different things from their sexual partners and express their love accordingly. Male love is the traditional romantic love that we think of. It is based on sacrifice and loyalty. Female love is far more conditional. Women love what a man can provide but rarely the man himself.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 07:26 PM
44

Hypergamy: it floats.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 07:00 PM
27

The ass and vagina too, normally.
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 02:49 PM
11

I think I've posted this before about this study but it bears repeating. Boom towns like this have unique dynamics that explain these results. First, there are way more men than women. This allows the girls to be more selective. Second, a lot of the guys who work in these towns have no intention of staying. Many have girlfriends or wives in some other town that they are working to provide for. Thirdly, when one guy walks into a bar with a pocketful of cash, he gets attention. When every guy walk…
/r/MGTOW14/06/17 04:50 PM
1

Yeah but sin taxes are fairly ubiquitous and are often combined with the local sales tax or VAT. I get why it's annoying but it's hardly a Canadian problem.
/r/MGTOW14/06/17 02:23 PM
9

We don't care if women sleep around. We do point out the rather predictable phenomenon of women who sleep with one kind of guy in their 20's and then marry another kind of guy in their thirties. You can have your standards but don't get offended when we point out why you have them and why they change as women start hearing their biological clock ticking. This isn't about you. It's about what men get out of a modern relationship. The answer is very little.
/r/MGTOW14/06/17 01:55 PM
1

Canada's reputation for being a high tax jurisdiction is undeserved. If you take your income tax bill + healthcare costs in Canada and the US you end up in about the same place. You're just paying most of your healthcare costs on your tax bill. Canada's corporate taxes are actually lower than the US.
/r/MGTOW14/06/17 01:38 PM
2

It's just pointing out that gender dimorphism in humans leads to different choices in college majors. I'm not seeing the problem. Lol.
/r/MGTOW12/06/17 12:45 PM
3

This article touches on it but the real trend with millennials is that marriage is for the rich. I'm in m early​ 30's. I have friends at different ends of the economic spectrum. My more successful friends are almost all getting married. My less successful friends? Not so much.
/r/MGTOW09/06/17 02:10 PM
7

Starting my own business with a couple friends. Website is almost done. We'll​ be in the market in the next couple months. If the market is receptive, I'll be giving up a comfortable good paying job to pursue something of my own. Can't imagine taking on this risk with a wife and kids. MGTOW gives me the freedom to do this. If we can sell this, MGTOW will make me rich.
/r/MGTOW03/06/17 10:21 PM
5

The Paris agreement is a joke. Trump should have declared the US a developing country (the term is never defined) and reset the US targets (which are voluntary).
/r/MGTOW02/06/17 05:37 PM
5

Not sure where it came in. I think ManWomanMyth talked about it around the same time as Bar Bar and Stardusk on the MGTOW side. Not sure if it came through the PUA side or MGTOW side first. The communities cross-pollinate more than either side likes to admit. That said, hypergamy is established social science. It's an accepted fact among economists, for example. Briffault's Law derives from anthropology more than evo psych too. Briffault was basically blaming religion for male domination and loo…
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 07:31 PM
18

Story time. The place I worked before this one was a smallish private company (about 100 employees). The CFO was a tough as nails woman in her 50's. In Canada, new mothers are entitled to a year of maternity leave (technically men can take part of it, but few do). It's paid through the employment insurance program, so it's no cost to the employer. After the maternity leave you have to give them back their old job. Now, a lot of women decide to a) stay home with the kids or b) find a new job duri…
/r/MGTOW29/05/17 01:41 PM
3

OG Nazi shit. I've also heard "white nationalists" blame Jews for MGTOW because reasons.
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 12:54 PM
-2

Immigration does not lower wages overall. It lowers wages at the bottom of the economic ladder in some cases but the net impact on the economy is positive. The Japanese are as K selected as they come. No immigration. No feminism. Their economy has stagnated for thirty years. Dual incomes are the norm. Your argument doesn't stand up to reality.
/r/MGTOW24/05/17 01:13 PM
1

The pronoun bill (C-16) is fairly inconsequential. Most of the provinces already have similar legislation on the books. Federal human rights cases are actually more rare and wouldn't apply to a student suing a university professor which is clearly provincial jurisdiction. While the nightmare scenario put forward by Dr. Peterson et al is possible under current provincial law, it hasn't, to my knowledge, ever happened. It also is not yet through third reading in the Senate (in spite of reports tha…
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 03:36 PM
1

Yeah, Ambrose has announced that she's leaving in June.
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 03:14 PM
3

The JtO video is wrong. The law passed the House but has not passed the Senate. It isn't law yet. There are rumours that Trudeau intends to prorogue Parliament which would kill this bill on the order paper. It could be revived in the fall but the sponsor is quitting and won't be there to spearhead it. We may be saved by the arcane machinery of government. Yay! Also, it's worth noting that this bill passed unanimously meaning none of the Conservative leadership candidates opposed it. Conservative…
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 02:16 PM
7

There are some serious methodological flaws with this study. The study looks at the marriage rates for women in counties where there was fracking. The biggest problem with that is that it ignores how transient a lot of the fracking workers are. The men working in fracking jobs will often maintain a permanent residence elsewhere in the country. So, if those men marry, it won't be to women in North Dakota or wherever they're working but rather to their sweetheart back home in the non-fracking town…
/r/MGTOW18/05/17 03:53 PM
1

Stop literally punishing yourself for a second and think. Why do you hate yourself? What is it about your life that you hate? Is it just physical appearance? Because you can do things to improve yourself. Diet and exercise will improve your physical appearance. Which, if that's what's bothering you, will help your self-esteem. That will in turn make you more attractive to women, if that's what's really bothering you. Men want validation from women. It's entirely natural. That doesn't mean that y…
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 02:36 PM
5

There is certainly a strong pull of hypergamy to a lot of men's ambitions. However, I think you underestimate the interest successful men have in their jobs. There is as Tennyson put it a desire in men "to strive, to seek, to find and not to yield." I have what most people would, from the outside, describe as a boring job and it pays fairly well. However, I have a passion for much of what I do. I find the problem solving required interesting. I tinker with processes the same way a mechanic tinke…
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 02:24 PM
12

9 stone is a lot. Raise your standards.
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 04:01 PM
2

Let's consider what the benefits of marriage have traditionally been for men. There were two principal benefits to marriage: Sexual Access A partner to handle domestic duties (cooking, cleaning etc.) It used to be that in order to have sex, men had to get married. Even if you did get a girl to fuck you before marriage, the lack of birth control and the social norms of the time meant a marriage likely followed. Today? Sex is readily available before marriage. You don't need to buy the cow to get …
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 12:47 PM
68

He's apologized a couple times now. I think it was his Dave Rubin interview where he talked about working with divorced/divorcing men in his clinical practice. He conceded that he couldn't help them in the face of modern divorce. I'm glad he conceded the point re: divorce but he misses the more important issue. In the original "MGTOW are weasels" lecture, he presents the traditionalist argument that men achieve self-actualization through taking responsibility for their family. At the end of the …
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 05:53 PM
1

In before someone tries to claim that Putin is feminist.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 01:18 PM
0

Allowed, affordable and available. Feminism has been around since the mid 19th century. Liberalism has been around since the 17th century. Marxism since the 19th century. The demise of patriarchy is confined to the last 60 years ago.
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 09:22 PM
0

It isn't feminism or liberalism. Birth control demolished the patriarchy in one fell swoop. As soon as women didn't have to worry about getting pregnant, their natural hypergamy was free to reign supreme. After that, humanity's natural gynocentrism kicked in to adjust social values to what women wanted.
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 07:30 PM
1

1+3. Sexism is bias against an individual based solely on their sex. Feminism is a movement to promote the expansion of women's rights based on the assumptions of patriarchy theory. Equality is equal treatment under the law. MGTOW is a community of men who believe that an objective cost/benefit analysis of marriage and long term relationships leads to the conclusion that the costs outweigh the benefits. Therefore we abstain from marriage and long term relationships. A household are the people li…
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 06:33 PM
2

Against All Odds or Beat the Odds.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 07:45 PM
2

2 is wrong. 1 works as a stand alone sentence. 3 is a prepositional phrase. You would want something after it like "against all odds, Jimmy got out of the friend zone".
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 07:38 PM
4

I do wonder how often her ex gets to see his kids. I would have voted for Macron but it has nothing to do with MGTOW. I don't vote on men's issues as I have never heard a pro-male candidate in my life
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 06:42 PM
1

You are losing the plot. The reason certain events are covered more in history classes is because of a) where they occur b) how well they explain current events. Most Americans couldn't tell you what continent Armenia is on let alone the disaster that befell their quest for Independence after World War I. World War II shaped the modern era and the Holocaust is a good shorthand for arguing that the allies were in the right in that war. NATO didn't intervene to stop Stalin or Mao. It's a harder st…
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 06:35 PM
2

My point is that all of the things that people blame on immigration, feminism and free trade have occurred in a country where none of those factors are in play. The Japanese cohesively drove their country off a cliff in the late 80's and successive governments have been unable to fix it.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 05:43 PM
2

Yes, which seems to be what the OP wants.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 02:56 PM
2

I have the perfect country for you. They have very low levels of immigration, high IQ population, restrictive barriers to trade and virtually zero feminist influence. Where is this paradise you ask? Japan. I mean the economy hasn't really grown in 25 years and no one has sex anymore let alone gets married. Oh, and they're desperately trying to invent robots to take care of their elderly because there aren't enough working age people to do it.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 01:23 PM
3

He hasn't uploaded in a while but, yeah, the videos are still there. Let's put it this way: if there's a MGTOW YouTuber you like, there's a good chance they were inspired by Barbarosaa or inspired by someone who was inspired by Barbarosaa. If you want something more current (or shorter - Bar Bar's videos tend to be lengthy) he writes more regularly over at his blog - Shedding of the Ego.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 01:06 PM
7

Someone posted about The Big Bang Theory earlier. Howard on that show is your typical PUA. Traditional guys who have little to no success with women who are looking for someone to marry. They use PUA to find their unicorn.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 05:25 PM
10

When you start to see the cracks in the facade, you can't unsee it. He's trying to get affirmation from his supposed allies that his worldview is consistent with reality. He wants them to say one of two things 1) Women don't really care about​ SMV and he's just unlucky that he hasn't found a girl into short, fat, broke guys or 2) that the fact that women don't want to date him is somehow anti-feminist because fat-shaming. Tellingly, not even the feminists on that sub will lie to him and tell him…
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 06:20 PM
1

This wiki article is terrible. If men favour women that's not in-group bias. It's out-group bias.
/r/MGTOW28/04/17 03:23 PM
9

I have a fax machine in my office at work. Craziest thing: there are Nigerian prince-style fax scams. Who responds to a spam fax ?!?!?
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 05:27 PM
9

Two completely different instincts/motivations. Women don't think about a man's sexual prospects when they raise him. They want a) someone who will make them look good and b) someone who will take care of them when they (inevitably) either divorce or outlive the father. A certain amount of passivity makes a boy more agreeable and less likely to act out in public. It also actually​ does help in modern feminized schools. That makes the mother look good. It also makes the son less likely to abandon…
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 07:14 PM
5

You mean the balls of every guy in the Front National as she was sleeping her way to the top of her Dad's party?
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 06:33 PM
1

So, you prefer the twice divorced single mom?
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 01:59 PM
1

Getting a dog isn't a bad idea. Your jealousy is natural, instinctive. There's nothing wrong with feeling that way. The key for me is to take a step back and understand that it's only a feeling. You don't go punching people every time someone pisses you off, right? MGTOW is not about not feeling emotions. It's about not allowing your emotions to override the logical choice you're making to stay single. We're pre-programmed by our biology and our socialization to want to be with women. Don't get …
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 01:29 PM
19

The only field where I worry about the lack of men is education. In that case there's a real potential harm (boys view learning as unmasculine) and a discriminatory environment (male teachers being suspected of pedophilia). Otherwise, men and women should be able to enter the professions they want.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 03:42 PM
12

It's just the nature of the profession. It has features that women tend to prefer - more soft skills required than hard skills. It does have a huge impact on codes of conduct in companies, hiring practices, etc.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 03:08 PM
10

Every time I read one of these crazy ramblings, I imagine my life if Jews like me actually had this sort of power. I can never wrap my head around the idea that we simultaneously control society but also want to destroy it. If we control the world, why change it? Stalin was an Orthodox Christian by birth. Even attended a seminary. Blaming the Jews for his crimes is absurd. You blame Jews for Muslim immigration in Europe but ignore the fact that Jewish groups from France to Sweden are firmly anti…
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 01:22 PM
17

Not to mention the thousands of boys they've just kill on sight.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 06:49 PM
4

I do date periodically to keep up appearances and I know other MGTOW guys date regularly. The prohibition is against entangling relationships. For some guys, it's easy to set boundaries and just have some fun. Other guys find dating with no long term goal pointless. There are also concerns about false rape accusations, accidental paternity which push some guys towards abstinence. Again, it's a risk/reward thing. Everyone has different risk tolerances.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 06:41 PM
3

Every man should do a cost/benefit analysis when it comes to marriage. If you do that analysis and decide to get married, I wish you well. Too many men don't do that analysis. They get married because that's what they think they're supposed to do or because they believe that's the only way to be happy. That's my objection. I don't have any illusions that MGTOW is the best course of action for all men. MGTOW is a choice and one that shouldn't be taken lightly. It's taken me a long time to reconci…
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 06:15 PM
2

On NAWALT. There are two separate issues here. The first are our biological evolutionary drives which are hardwired. A woman will be hypergamous in instinct even if that instinct is suppressed. So, from a biological perspective AWALT. The second part is a numbers game. Yes, you may marry the girl of your dreams and be blissfully happy until death do you part. It could happen. Here's the thing. Every couple that walks down the aisle thinks that they will have the storybook marriage but 40-50% end…
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 05:40 PM
3

Summary: a Belgian girl takes a Spanish guy to civil court in New York seeking damages for two alleged assaults in Manhattan and a sexual assault in Paris. The guy asks the case to be thrown out because a) the court has no jurisdiction over the Paris incident and b) the other two alleged assaults are not articulated beyond "he assaulted me". Judge agrees and throws out the case. However, she allowed the girl to refile the case if the girl wants to actually say what happened in New York. No punis…
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 05:51 PM
5

This. People are making relatively less when they're younger and drowning in student debt. The rich are still marrying.
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 06:26 PM
2

I think it has to do with giving their SJW authors too much rope. I think the corporate strategy was let the creatives create. That's only a good idea if they can colour inside the lines so to speak.
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 06:19 PM
1

True but you're going after a pretty small demo of girls with She-Thor. Buy out Archie or something.
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 06:17 PM
81

Marvel has tried to reach out to new audiences in exactly the wrong way. They have a diverse cast already. Marvel could sell more female led comic books by giving The Wasp her spot in the MCU Avengers and launching a new Wasp comic series off of it. They didn't need to gender swap Thor. As it is, Disney already sells to girls through their Disney Princess crap. Why they need their primarily boys division to sell to girls is beyond me. I don't think they're about to gender swap Elsa in the next F…
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 05:40 PM
1

These traditionalist/white nationalist types are hilarious. They understand why marriage rates are collapsing but are under this delusion that they can turn back the clock. Check out his "What is to be Done" section near the end. All of it is pure fantasy and some of that fantasy downright dystopian.
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 02:20 PM
18

How does anyone take Futrelle seriously? MGTOW, the most racially diverse part of the manosphere, is actually super racist. Have you googled Black MGTOW, David? Do you realize Bar Bar, the dominant thinker in this community, was born in the DR and has posted articles on his site ripping Trump? Put this in your next hit piece.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 06:51 PM
5

The BC Liberals have been in power way too long. But what are you going to do? Vote NDP? Neither Clark nor Trudeau set up the family courts and no major party is going to fix them. Certainly not Kevin O'Leary who is a charlatan who sells crappy over priced mutual funds.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 06:20 PM
1

He was rather incompetent. Ran up huge deficits with nothing to show for it. His appointments to various offices were awful. Much of his tough on crime agenda has been struck down by a supreme court that is filled with Harper appointments. Beyond a couple free trade deals, he has a thin record for a guy who was in power for almost ten years.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 06:11 PM
21

Meh, at least she can pull it off.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 05:43 PM
1

Advertisers want to reach PewDiePie's audience but they are allergic to things that might damage the brand. GamerGate exploited this to great effect. By letter writing to Kotaku's advertisers, they seriously hurt Gawker Media's bottom line. This is far less political than people seem to think.
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 03:21 AM
1

When did I say it was censorship if applied to progressives? I'm talking strictly about ads. I don't understand the thought process behind the hiding or removing of controversial content.
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 03:17 AM
3

That's the point. If your content isn't marketable to advertisers, why should you get paid? YouTube is already hosting your content for free. If they can't sell ads for your channel, why should you get paid?
/r/MGTOW28/03/17 03:39 PM
51

No, they haven't. Their advertisers have told them that they don't want their ads broadcast on MGTOW channels and YouTube has complied with the request. That's the free market. If you want YouTube dollars hire some halfway hot chick to ramble about life or unbox shit. If you want money for producing MGTOW content you can set up a patreon or go out and try to get sponsors yourself. If you can't get a Fortune 500 company to sponsor you, why do you think YouTube can?
/r/MGTOW28/03/17 12:59 PM
2

Yeah, I found Karen back when she was still just GirlWritesWhat. Stumbled onto a Bar Bar video and got hooked. Almost no one was saying what he was saying back then (Just Stardusk, Man Woman Myth , RBK, a couple others). 90% of the stuff you hear today is traceable to Bar Bar and he hasn't put out videos consistently in years. If you're newer and you've never heard Barborosaa video, you're missing out.
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 07:47 PM
3

Become rich so you can live poorly in some third world backwater? Doesn't seem like a great plan.
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 05:41 PM
2

I prefer an older analogy than the Matrix. To me, Achilles in The Iliad represents the choice we make. Much of that book is Achilles choosing whether to go home and live the quiet life: wife, kids, work or live a life of glory and be remembered forever. For Achilles, the life of glory means certain death but that's not important for our purposes. Freeing yourself from the constraints of the quiet, domestic life allows us to strive for greatness. MGTOW isn't just about avoiding pitfalls. It's abo…
/r/MGTOW25/03/17 02:37 PM
17

Her interests include reality TV, Netflix and her cat. I've gone on enough dates with basic bitches. It's like talking to a wall.
/r/MGTOW25/03/17 05:18 AM
1

There's a PDF online if I recall.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 01:57 PM
11

Yeah, twice.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 03:24 AM
20

Quick summary. Guy inherits a house with some land from his Dad. Moves in with his on again off again girlfriend. Eventually, agrees to give her half the house on the condition that she a) helps pay the bills and b) doesn't cheat. She cheats on him, gets pregnant from the other guy. She moves out and then sues him to get half the house. He says fuck you we have a contract, wins in court and on appeal.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 01:23 AM
3

Traditional gender roles are obsolete. When people spent their entire lives in one small town, you could enforce gender roles like this. Now? Someone posted here today about Saudi women leaving the country to get out of the restraints imposed there. Think about it this way. If you are a young woman living in a small town in the 18th century and your father disapproves of your chosen suitor, what could you do? That guy wanted to live and work in that small town so even if the girl wants to disobe…
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 12:27 AM
7

Hypergamy has existed for millenia. Generally, it's a positive force allowing humans to evolve and thrive. The problem today is that hypergamy is unrestrained. Parental control and enforced monogamy are things of the past. Modern hypergamy is basically a cancerous version of the biological driver of human evolution. So, expect more tumours.
/r/MGTOW22/03/17 05:46 PM
3

Calling people who are working part time unemployed is stupid. The unemployment rate accurately reflects the % of the labour force that is not working. It doesn't count people who drop out of the labour force and it doesn't count the underemployed. You failing to understand what is being presented does not make the unemployment rate fake news. If you want the real culprit destroying entry level jobs? Technology. Think about all the young people who used to work at Blockbuster. How many do you th…
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 07:40 PM
9

So, you're recruiting for a white nationalist discord server. Got it.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 06:26 PM
2

I'm on mobile and don't feel like linking but Google "Gender Identity and Relative Income within Households" by Marianne Bertrand. Fascinating stuff. She talks a lot about how unstable non-hypergamous marriages are. There's another article called "When Work Disappears: Manufacturing Decline and the Falling Marriage Market Value of Men" which has gotten press lately. David Autor shows how in communities where male income declines, marriage rates plummet. Both articles are by serious a academics w…
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 01:34 PM
15

Hmmm... So is the only MGTOW thing to do short the hell out of this?
/r/MGTOW14/03/17 06:45 PM
4

I have to disagree with you on the nurture/nature point. I think people mistake adaptation to new technology as socialization. The consistent pattern across countries and time is that when homemaking ceases to be a full time job, women start pushing into traditional male spheres. The traditional division of labour can not survive the washing machine and dishwasher. Once that happens, female hypergamy (which was always in force) floats up to match her income/education. So, the woman who would hav…
/r/MGTOW13/03/17 02:14 PM
5

You're 16. Relax. Just don't do anything stupid like get her pregnant. Otherwise enjoy the ride.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 08:35 PM
2

WTF are you studying?
/r/MGTOW09/03/17 07:40 PM
0

DAE think obvious trolls are obvious?
/r/MGTOW09/03/17 07:16 PM
13

Chicken thighs. They are way cheaper than breast meat and they taste better too. I'll also roast whole chickens, use the leftovers for lunch and then make stock out of the bones. Homemade stock is better for you (you can control the amount of salt), is ridiculously cheap and easy to make and keeps forever if you freeze it. Just freeze it in quantities you'll cook with.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 07:45 PM
3

I lived in the Malmo area for a year. The worst thing I can say about the city is that it's boring. I lived about a kilometer from a public housing complex (not Rosengard) with a lot of refugees. The closest grocery store was there so I went there a lot. I never felt unsafe. Rosengard has its issues but it's not the hellscape the right-wing media has made it out to be.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 02:56 PM
3

This article is not great. It misses the point on where automation is going to hit hardest. The biggest losers in the next 10 years will be service sector workers: self-serve ordering kiosks at fast food restaurants, online shopping for clothes etc. Automation is most likely to replace jobs when a company has a lot of people doing the same thing. Where automation does impact higher on the food chain, this article is close but not really accurate. For instance, surgeons will still be required to …
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 02:30 PM
8

Voting on men's issues is dumb. Feminist gynocentrism and traditionalist gynocentrism are two sides of the same coin. Those are your options. Vote on other issues and assume a level of gynocentrism no matter who wins.
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 02:06 PM
1

Sweden changed their definition of rape to a feminist yes means yes standard. That's why their rates of rape skyrocketed. However, it was the conservative (New Moderate) government that changed the standard not the current feminist Social Democrat one.
/r/MGTOW28/02/17 01:34 PM
3

Absolutely. Note I said better.
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 10:10 PM
4

Fascinating. Thanks for sharing. Interesting twist on the "Alpha fucks, beta bucks" scenario that TRP promotes. It reinforces that dichotomy but suggests that female sexual loyalty is better achieved through the beta sexual strategy. It continues to amaze me that dark corners of the internet like this have a better understanding of human evolution than most academics (outside of Evo psych/bio).
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 08:59 PM
12

Umm.. no. First, she's a twice divorced single mom. Second, Here's an op-ed she wrote about how immigration is bad because it hurts women: http://www.lopinion.fr/edition/politique/marine-pen-referendum-sortir-crise-migratoire-94568
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 04:18 PM
15

Yeah, I remember seeing it on TV at the time. This is a few years ago when Seguin was in Boston.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 02:09 PM
1

Yes, men are taught to suppress their sexuality but she misses the point. Men's sexual desires is far more driven by physical features than women's sexual desire. Evolutionarily, the physical ability to produce children is what men want. Women have a longer list of demands and will forego physical requirements if other things turn them on. Trophy wives are a good example of this. Competition for those dating men (straight women, gay men) is therefore more narrowly focused on looks. You can't rea…
/r/MGTOW23/02/17 03:13 PM
1

I agree which is why the outrage is absurd. Either the Journal inaccurately reported the story in which case he should be demanding a retraction or what they said was accurate and he should stop damseling for attention.
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 07:25 PM
22

Nah, he got attacked for an off-colour joke. I watched his response video. The only idea he has is that he doesn't like it when people fling shit his way. Fine, who does? He's a celebrity and he's being treated accordingly. He had to know that when he signed with Disney, he was subject to a strict morals clause. If he really thinks he's been wronged, he should use his YouTube millions to hire a lawyer and sue the Post, Disney or whomever. Unpopular speech has consequences. Why do you think 99% o…
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 02:25 PM
1

Honest question: what's stopping you from going out on your own? If I gathered correctly you're selling electronics. No huge barriers to entry. The biggest issue in a business like that is differentiating yourself from the competition but it sounds like you could do that just by running a semi-competent shop. The world might be going to shit, but that doesn't mean you can't profit from it.
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 02:18 PM
1

CFO Christine McCarthy?
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 07:24 PM
1

His politics are progressive but his personality is pure alpha. Tons of charisma, confidence.
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 03:39 PM
3

The editor in chief at Marvel, the guy who actually decides what gets published, is Mexican-American. His boss and predecessor is Cuban-American.
/r/MGTOW15/02/17 03:57 PM
3

Disney is a publicly traded company. Its only major shareholders are institutions. Yes, it has a Jewish CEO but he has one job: make as much money as possible. The artists and authors at Marvel are left wing social justice types like most artists and authors. They tell the stories they want to tell. There's no conspiracy here.
/r/MGTOW15/02/17 03:35 PM
8

Yeah, it's not too bad as far as dating apps go. Saves a lot of time wasted messaging women who will never answer back. The time limit thing is weird though.
/r/MGTOW15/02/17 03:15 PM
1

Women have always gotten what they've wanted. The only thing that changed was technology. As life got easier, women felt safer outside the home. The moment a majority of women wanted the vote, they got it. They wanted to work in male dominated professions? Done before you can say "Stay classy San Diego". I'm not clear what would change under your scenario.
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 11:14 PM
11

The internet is a wonderful thing. Try to line up work BEFORE you leave. Job searches can take a while. It's worth putting up with your annoying family for a few weeks while you find a job. Also, make sure you understand the costs associated with living in a place like London.
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 07:56 PM
1

No. We don't have to protect them. That's the whole point. Childbirth is, in relative terms, safe and women face no additional risks while nursing. But our instincts haven't changed from the days eons ago when both practices were inherently dangerous. Women don't need our protection or provision but our instincts tell us otherwise. Our politics reflect these instincts and, on gender issues, tend towards gynocentrism. So, Hillary promises to give women free shit while Trump promises to protect th…
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 07:47 PM
3

Show me a single government in the history of the democratic world that wasn't gynocentric. Conservatives/Traditionalists want to protect women by forcing individual men to protect them. Liberals/Feminists think the state should protect them with men's taxes. It's the same shit. Politics, particularly local politics, are important. Nothing wrong with caring and forming an informed opinion on the issues of the day. However, believing that we can remove gynocentrism from our politics is a delusion…
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 07:07 PM
2

Is this the same God Emperor who has spent the last two days bitching about Nordstrom not selling his feminist daughter's crap? Look, agree with Trump or disagree with him on the issues but he's completely gynocentric.
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 06:44 PM
8

How did we lose God but keep sin?
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 02:32 PM
6

I think reading Dr. Stauss' work and the reaction to it from other "academics" is what convinced me the MRA's would never be successful. The dude proves repeatedly that the Duluth Method and the associated narrative around DV is bullshit. What happens? He gets ostracized and his students have their careers threatened. No one listens. If anyone doubts the power of gynocentrism read about Murray Strauss.
/r/MGTOW27/01/17 04:06 PM
1

Conservative asking UK taxpayers to subsidize housewives. The saddest part for me is this is already the law in Canada.
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 03:39 PM
5

Forced into it? No. But they haven't been tricked by feminists either. A man's ability to provide for his wife has always been part of traditional marriage. What constitutes failure to provide is entirely subjective, always has been. A rich girl may have sought at fault divorce if her husband couldn't buy her a new horse. A poor girl may have had to be at risk of homelessness or starvation before she pulled the trigger. Hypergamy floats. Saying "I'm leaving my husband because he can't provide fo…
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 03:24 PM
7

While I don't believe MGTOW or other red pill knowledge is responsible, this author doesn't get it. Marriage doesn't mean as much to a generation accustomed to divorce. My friends that have gotten married have done so: A) because they want kids and there's still a stigma associated with an unmarried couple having kids. Obviously less than there used to be but for middle class to upper middle class people it's still seen as a negative. B) Because they've been living together for years and got tir…
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 02:58 PM
1

This video is an absolute must see.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 12:55 AM
7

The 50's focused on crappy rote learning that imparted no understanding. The 60's were a cluster fuck of New Math that was so bogged down in technical jargon as to prevent anyone from learning. Don't romanticise the past.
/r/MGTOW09/01/17 08:05 PM
3

There's that old sex-ed saying that "if you aren't mature enough to buy condoms, you aren't mature enough to have sex." Can we add a corollary that "if you aren't mature enough to excuse yourself from a date in a public place, you aren't mature enough to date"?
/r/MGTOW09/01/17 06:56 PM
1

Mods, can we delete this before we get the sub shut down for brigading?
/r/MGTOW09/01/17 06:50 PM
3

Women don't want equality. They want all of the rights and none of the responsibility. It's why the Equal Rights Amendment failed in the US. The best hope for divorce reform is lesbians. Enough angry divorced lesbians and we might get the end of life-long alimony and a cap on child support. Maybe even something to account for the fact that people's wages fluctuate way more than they used to. But again, you'll never get there advocating for men. Lesbians are the key. I Use the progressive stack t…
/r/MGTOW09/01/17 04:17 PM
1

Poe's law in full effect. This is so absurd it could easily be parody.
/r/MGTOW09/01/17 04:03 PM
6

Apparently you can do test paternity test through a regular blood sample from the pregnant woman's arm. The woman will have some of the fetus' blood in her bloodstream and apparently you can match off of that. So, it's doable without any real harm to anyone. However, the odds of it becoming even a right fathers can waive is slim to nil.
/r/MGTOW05/01/17 06:52 PM
5

You must understand how much both of you are being deluded by your internal chemistry at this point in the relationship. At very least let the hormones fade a bit before you put a ring on it.
/r/MGTOW05/01/17 05:27 PM
2

Wait, how long have you known this girl?
/r/MGTOW05/01/17 04:39 PM
6

I get how it would be difficult to stop thinking of the kid as yours if you raised it. The ones who were glad their partners had lied to them... I mean, find some self-respect.
/r/MGTOW05/01/17 04:34 PM
1

Who is going to raise this theoretical future child? Will she quit work? Cut back? Hire a nanny?
/r/MGTOW05/01/17 04:10 PM
2

Genocide is extraordinarily rare and is not based on any sort of evolutionary inability to succeed. More often, genocide is caused by one group becoming jealous of the success of another group and deciding they have to die. In all the cases you cited, the minorities didn't die because they were physically or socially weak, they died because they were massively outnumbered. Moreover, all of those groups have survived these genocides. Even the Marsh Arabs survived Saddam's purges. We haven't seen …
/r/MGTOW04/01/17 04:59 AM
5

Great post. I would argue that modern humans are relatively immune from natural selection. We have weaponry to destroy any predator and modern medicine and sanitation have curbed our losses from disease dramatically. Very few people actually die from starvation, dehydration or exposure to inclement weather. So, all we have left is female-driven sexual selection. TRP is wrong to describe modern dating as natural selection but they aren't necessarily wrong about what drives sexual selection. Femal…
/r/MGTOW03/01/17 08:25 PM
17

All I can think of is the foot massage argument from Pulp Fiction.
/r/MGTOW03/01/17 03:45 PM
2

War and Peace is worth the read. Great way to learn about Napoleonic era Russia. Spoiler: he doesn't take the advice and marries a golddigger... and then a vapid socialite. Seriously, Pierre's character arc is the worst part of War and Peace. Cringe-worthy stuff.
/r/MGTOW02/01/17 06:52 AM
0

Generally replacement level is 2.1 / woman. The articles you linked to are below that. Advocating for immigration doesn't mean pursuing Angela Merkel's insane policy. Canada gets most of its immigrants from east Asia for instance.
/r/MGTOW31/12/16 01:14 AM
0

Abortion is illegal in Ireland. Birth rate is still below replacement level. No modern first world country has sustained replacement level birth rates. The abortion laws don't seem to matter. Immigration doesn't have to come from the Muslim world...
/r/MGTOW30/12/16 05:22 AM
1

I don't think that's not how German citizenship works. However, yeah, unless you want Japanese style demographic winter, you need immigrants.
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 01:59 PM
40

Fulfilling a childhood fantasy? Lopez was hot shit in the late 90's/early 2000's.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 08:03 PM
26

I don't buy this. Divorce rates are higher for people who get together and marry younger. The idea that sexual inexperience is some guarantee of long term fidelity is bullshit. The number of "I wanted to see what I missed out on by marrying young" divorces is way too high. Applying this theory to women would make more sense. After all, women choose who they date and choose whether or not to get divorced. Hypergamy dictates that the pool of marriageable men will thin out.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 04:29 PM
3

I think people need the dagger to push them. MGTOW doesn't preclude having one. My dagger is old age. I know I'm not going to have a wife or kids to take care of me when I start to break down. My money can. I want to ensure I have the money to pay for my long term comfort and welfare. Independence must be a lifelong goal in my view.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 02:55 PM
1

What? Walk through that for me. So, you want to fuck this girl. Fuck all the one true love BS. You want to fuck her. And if you don't see her in the next two days, you'll kill yourself because... reasons? What is stopping you from being happy on your own? Spend the next two days figuring that out. Merry Christmas.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 01:09 AM
17

Welp, looks like they killed off the wrong one of Kylo Ren's parents.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 12:55 AM
3

The red pill theory here is basically the following: Women are hypergamous. Men are neotonous The proportion of single people in a given age group declines as people marry off. So as people get older (30 is somewhat arbitrary), the single guys will be as a whole, less successful/desirable. Shallower pool for women to fish from. Combine that with the fact that the remaining high value men can date younger (neotony) with relative ease and a guy who was middle of the pack in his 20's, looks a lot b…
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 07:59 PM
17

We should just stick one of these at the top of the sub-reddit. Save people from having to make the same asinine post every week. We can call it the "we're really all losers who hate women" mega-thread.
/r/MGTOW21/12/16 07:07 PM
3

Go see a movie?
/r/MGTOW20/12/16 02:10 PM
1

The US is near full employment. The only debate is how close it is. This guy would be included in the unemployment rate. Economists generally agree that some unemployment is necessary in a healthy labour market. It allows companies to fire bad employees. You're always going to have a pool of recent graduates, recently laid off, job quitters and some people like this guy who are perpetually out of work who together make up the unemployed. The question of how many people who are not in the labour …
/r/MGTOW19/12/16 08:18 PM
2

Why would I be happier in a relationship? What benefit would I gain? The maintenance of a household used to require two people. It doesn't anymore. Men can live happily by themselves, particularly when they have easy access to casual sex. You and your partner may have a long and happy relationship. I wish you no ill will. However, I prefer to live alone.
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 11:53 PM
1

It takes balls to be a Jewish reporter covering terror in Karachi. This guy has none.
/r/MGTOW15/12/16 03:38 PM
11

I still can't believe they put horse porn on television.
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 08:26 PM
4

The lack of agency she ascribes to herself and her peers is, while not surprising, awful. There's no real evaluation of why she pursued the sexual strategy that she did. You could do a really interesting study of why women are pursuing these strategies, but she doesn't even try. Some plausible theories: - lack of straight, socially acceptable men to date at university leading to more sexual competition between women - Daddy issues. It's overused as an explanation but there seems to be, in her te…
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 07:30 PM
5

There's this weird thing where Disney, home of Disney princesses, has some MGTOW characters. So, Baloo in The Jungle Book and Timon and Poumba from The Lion King are portrayed as single, happy and role models for young men. I mean Hakuna Matata and Bear Necessities could almost be MGTOW anthems.
/r/MGTOW09/12/16 08:25 PM
0

The only question I'd have for you is when can you retire? My number one goal with my career is to stop working. I'm also in my early thirties. Right now I'm working a job that will allow me to retire comfortably in my mid 50's. I killed myself for a few years in my 20's to get this job but this job is fairly low stress and pays well. I work 9-5 and that's it. However, I'm working on something that will likely require me to work more hours but could, if it comes together, let me retire 10 years …
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 02:34 PM
1

I hear you but I guess I'm more accommodating of the bs. I'd rather have them here where they will get push back on their self-loathing and BS about how women will only date Adonises than in TFL. These guys are, in my unqualified opinion, far too close to harming themselves and others. If MGTOW or PUA can stop the downward spiral, great. But, yeah, there can be more patients than doctors around here some days.
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 03:40 PM
1

There's a self-hatred to TFL that is fundamentally unhealthy. I don't really care how people come to MGTOW. If they want to embrace the label and start living their lives for themselves, I welcome them. The last thing we need is more TFLers prostrating themselves at the altar of the golden uterus.
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 03:06 PM
2

I think TFM is misreading Alison here. Alison and Karen have moved closer and closer to MGTOW ideas on gynocentrism etc. I doubt the solution she'll propose will be traditionalism. However, I do find it funny that Karen et al are treating this stuff from Alison as new. Traditionalism and Feminism are both gynocentric? No shit. MGTOW have been saying this for years. RBK did a huge take down of the woman of many names (Judgy Bitch/Janet Bloomfield/ Andrea Hardie) calling out her traditional gynoce…
/r/MGTOW28/11/16 04:19 PM
23

What fascinates me here is the mother. An unemployed mental health expert who is also an alcoholic paying her bills by renting most of her house to her son and his family while collecting child support on his much younger (half?) sister. Holy crap. She's irresponsibility personified.
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 06:40 PM
2

CS MGTOW on YouTube is excellent.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 08:12 PM
3

Not the same person. John's in Vancouver. Sandman is in Toronto.
/r/MGTOW10/11/16 04:27 PM
2

No. It never was. What was true is that keeping a home used to be a full time job. That hasn't been true in decades.
/r/MGTOW08/11/16 08:30 PM
5

Yep. Screws guys in fields where pay varies year to year like construction. It's completely out of step with the modern labour market. Will it change? I doubt it.
/r/MGTOW08/11/16 06:51 PM
2

The genetic evidence suggests that this sort of thing is pretty normal for humans. Hypergamy is how natural selection works for human beings. It's part of the reason (along with better nutrition) that people are taller, stronger, faster and even smarter than they used to be. Hypergamy, on a macro level, is a good thing. For an individual man trying to live with an individual woman it's a bitch.
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 11:38 PM
2

The studies have the correlation backwards. Men who earn more are more likely to get and stay married. Hypergamy, plain and simple.
/r/MGTOW02/11/16 03:03 PM
4

Let me push back on the women caused government to expand bit. There are a lot of things happening at the same time in the early 20th century that lead to an expansion in government and to say women's suffrage is the root cause is a little reductionist. Let's go through this starting with the elephant in the room that is World War I. Apart from being one of the stupidest wars in human history, World War I was hideously expensive and government expanded to fight it. It was so expensive that many …
/r/MGTOW01/11/16 07:21 PM
5

You may be right, but it's a good fake if it is one. Some reasons to think it's real: The vague description of TRP. It's often harder to fake ignorance than fake knowledge. The language she's using isn't TRP language. It's not the classic TRP beta orbiter set up. This is her brother-in-law not some long time friend who always had a crush on her. Yes, the dynamics are similar but a TRPer likely goes with the standard TRP example. Not saying it isn't a shit post but it's at least a well crafted sh…
/r/MGTOW01/11/16 06:11 PM
10

Or that. I'm just waiting for women to complain about it not feeling as good through a layer of latex.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 07:05 PM
6

So, dental dams?
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 06:45 PM
1

You aren't wrong but politically it's almost impossible to argue for refusing care even in cases where the patient is the architect of their own demise or all hope is lost. Part of this is people being able to confront their own mortality and part of this is doctors wanting to save everyone even when they know they can't.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 03:44 PM
1

Meh. Take a look around the world. Health care costs are going up everywhere. They'd be going up in the US with or without Obamacare. The reality is modern medicine is more expensive than the average person can afford.Those costs are borne through taxes or insurance premiums. The biggest thing congress could do to reduce costs is limit the amount doctors can be sued for and thus reduce the cost of medical malpractice insurance that hospitals are passing on to patients. But tort reform isn't as s…
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 02:42 PM
5

r/mensrights would be a better place for this.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 01:32 PM
1

Interesting links. Neither refute my argument. Being able to wave a flag is proof that Sweden hasn't abandoned free speech. Not that they want jihadis. You can choose to throw Swedish born ISIS fighters in jail for life or you can try to rehabilitate them. Both valid choices. Neither proves a conspiracy to import jihadis.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 06:53 AM
1

Haha. Got to love the backhanded compliment. What am I ill-informed on?
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 06:49 AM
1

They "dominate our political parties"? Is that how Trump got nominated?
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 06:46 AM
1

This criticism is generally leveled at Germany where strict gun control already exists. The US has a constitutional amendment to protect gun rights.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 06:45 AM
2

The "obvious truth"? Really? The obvious truth is that the old royalists have no power. The obvious truth is that bankers and CEO's of major companies are interested in making money. Not controlling the world, just making money. Free trade allows for production to move to lower cost countries where feasible. Absolutely. It's difficult if not impossible to meet the demand for cheap goods if your labour costs are through the roof. However, the result is not simply "profits", it's efficiency for th…
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 02:42 PM
-7

There is no "globalist oligarchy" that runs the world. Nobody runs the world. That's one of the reasons it's so fucked up. They're "importing jihadis". There are valid criticisms of the immigration policies of some countries. However, to believe that they are intentionally encouraging terrorists to move to their countries is bullshit. These "jihadis" will somehow force men into "fundamentalist marriages". What? Walk me through that one. Because a doesn't lead to b. People who support free trade …
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 02:02 PM
-5

Take off the tin foil hat.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 01:50 PM
5

Mostly white men? Not really. The most widely respected MGTOW out there, Barbarossaa, is Dominican. The black MGTOW community is pretty damn big too. MGTOW is probably the least white part of the manosphere.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 12:46 PM
8

Bye Felicia
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 02:18 PM
6

The problem is that you're trying to "feel" about love and you aren't thinking about it. You want love to be some magical phenomenon divorced from the material so when you see this girl's transparent hypergamous/golddigging behaviour, you get pissed. It's not just that she's treated you poorly, her behaviour is threatening your idealistic concept of love. You can't change her shitty behaviour. You can change the way you think (not feel) about love.
/r/MGTOW17/10/16 07:00 PM
2

If you're in high school and you don't know what you want to do with your life, going to get a BA is a reasonable choice. I know that's not the trendy thing to say, but it's still true. A BA is still a useful credential, especially as you climb the corporate ladder. It's not that it will get you a job (it won't) but it will get you past the first cull of resumes. Don't underestimate the importance of that. You can go to a community college after the BA and learn some practical skills. Or you can…
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 03:18 PM
3

The poor sap thinks the plane is fine and he just has shitty balance.
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 05:44 PM
15

This guy is going to kill himself someday and this shrink is aiding and abetting. His wife is emotionally abusive and all this "professional" says is basically "man up". Fuck that.
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 04:31 PM
-6

If I were American, I'd vote for Clinton. Yes, she's a man-hating feminist but Trump has no idea how the world/government works. I'd rather have a corrupt and incompetent President than an ignorant, corrupt and incompetent President. Never has the South Park Giant Douche vs. Turd Sandwich analogy been so apt.
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 06:05 PM
2

@realpeerreview is a must follow on Twitter for shit like this.
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 11:28 PM
8

Backlash is the obvious answer and perhaps the correct one. It's not just MGTOW that's disproportionately popular here. There's a slew of other manosphere types up here in the great white north. For me, I always found the feminist BS I was taught to be ridiculous and when I decided to look for fellow travelers I found MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 06:22 PM
11

Really shows the fluidity of female sexuality. Remember, Ellen is a lesbian. Why does she care how hot a guy is? I get that her audience is mostly straight but she claims not to be.
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 03:08 PM
5

This case is crazy. So, the trial judge (F) convicted the guy but got sick before sentencing. The supervising judge (M) comes in to do the sentencing. He reads her reasons for convicting the guy so that he can figure out what sentence is appropriate. However, he notices that the judge found the accused's story plausible. That raises the obvious question: how can a case be proved beyond a reasonable doubt if there's a plausible defense? He, rightfully, says that's not possible and declares a mist…
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 03:01 PM
25

That last one is great.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 03:10 PM
6

Trudeau spent a couple years chasing snowbunnies as a snowboard instructor. There are rumours about him cheating on his wife. So, yeah, a player for sure.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 06:25 PM
13

It's sadder than that. According to the article, this is a married Dutch guy in New York periodically on business. And, according to the whore, he isn't even sure he wants to cheat on his wife. So, he's so fucking lonely that he's paying $600 a night just to have someone to talk to. Either this guy is on the road all the time and never sees his family or his marriage is so awful that he's paying for literal companionship. Sorry, remind me again why marriage is so wonderful? Meanwhile, the whore …
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 06:14 PM
1

I hate that Donald Trump Jr. used that analogy (and badly, you can screen refugees) but yeah, this.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 10:40 PM
1

Here's how I approach this. I will never tell anyone to not be angry. That's pointless. I will ask them to consider why they're angry. If they're angry because they've been personally screwed over by divorce, false rape allegations, whatever, I'm happy to let them vent. They've been wronged and they need to process that or risk being a threat to themselves or others. Letting off steam on the internet seems like a healthy way to start. However, when guys come on here angry that women don't act th…
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 07:39 PM
1

That's per year. It's hard to track the divorce rate as a percentage of marriages because divorce can happen at any time during a marriage. So, we can't know what percentage of marriages that happened in 2016 will end in divorce for decades. As it is, nobody tracks it that way. I'd love someone to try to look at all marriages that happened say, 50 years ago and see how many ended in divorce vs ending because one of the partners died but the logistics of that are daunting. When you see a publishe…
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 03:13 PM
27

I wrote last year about media coverage being purely positive for MGTOW. I still believe it to be true. http://sheddingoftheego.com/2015/11/30/mgtow-theres-no-such-thing-as-bad-press/
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 01:15 PM
39

Anita got her Master's degree from York University in Toronto. We have a saying about that school around Toronto: "If you can hold a fork, you can go to York". Great business school and law school. Otherwise, awful institution with radical SJW profs/TA's.
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 06:20 PM
12

It's crazy. Blue collar guys here make bank. It's purely a status thing for some of these girls. They want something that sounds impressive when they tell their friends/family about you.
/r/MGTOW20/09/16 06:31 PM
5

I played in a few competitive chess tournaments as a kid. It was virtually all guys. I should find a local club or something. I miss playing.
/r/MGTOW20/09/16 01:14 PM
48

I've told this story before but I'll share it here. I was out with a Tinderella a couple months ago and she asked where I worked. My company is 90% blue collar and when I told her where I worked her face fell. Then she asked me what I do. I told her my white collar job. All of a sudden she was sunshine and rainbows again. It's predictable as fuck.
/r/MGTOW20/09/16 12:56 PM
17

Vote on other issues. No party favours male freedom. The left wants to help women with feminism. The right wants to help women with traditionalism.
/r/MGTOW20/09/16 12:48 PM
3

To use PUA terminology? Beta providers. Problem is that those guys are a shrinking category. If you're single and late 20's/early 30's it's either because you want to be single - MGTOW's, PUA's, average alpha player type - or because women aren't interested -fat, poor, socially awkward. A lot of beta providers lock in with their girl early. They're already off the table when these girls start looking for "the one".
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 03:46 PM
4

Is it spelled h-y-p-e-r-g-a-m-y?
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 05:25 PM
5

In a word? Yes. Here's the study they're talking about. Gynocentrism at its most basic level. http://m.spp.sagepub.com/content/early/2016/05/18/1948550616647448.full
/r/MGTOW09/09/16 01:25 PM
1

Absolutely. The fact that real criminals might get off as a result is just another negative. It's bullshit even if there were zero golddigging false rape claims.
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 10:20 PM
1

Yes, statutes of limitation are there to protect the accused but they're mostly there to protect the justice system. Convicting someone of a crime that happened decades ago is almost impossible because reasonable doubt inexorably grows over time. You put statutes of limitation in place to avoid no-hope prosecutions clogging up the system. Removing that protection risks the possibility of other cases with a higher chance of conviction being thrown out due to the accused being denied the right to …
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 05:57 PM
1

What's the old saying? If you want something done quickly, give it to a busy person?
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 07:11 PM
4

Umm Mods, can we remove the call to brigading?
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 05:22 PM
1

Yeah, part of that is Toronto being expensive but still.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 06:47 PM
20

I recently sat through a conversation between my friends about one of them trying to keep his wedding under 50k. It sounded like it wasn't happening. Weddings are ridiculously expensive.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 01:23 PM
0

There's a very good reason that most men don't go monk mode: it means ignoring your biological drives. Monk mode will never be popular enough to have any negative social consequences. However, no individual needs to take personal responsibility for human progress.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 12:59 PM
3

They didn't get it right. She beats up her teenage nephew and they welcome her back. She insults Sweden and they get rid of her. Honestly, if she wasn't going to be 38 by the time the next women's world cup starts, they might have just slapped her on the wrist again.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 06:55 PM
2

You asked specifically about sex. I answered you. I addressed your "you might find a NAWALT" argument already.
/r/MGTOW25/08/16 02:58 PM
3

A world where whores exist if you really can't get a date. I worked with a guy back when I was starting out. He was fat, ugly, had all the charm of a wet noodle, well a really annoying wet noodle. He was almost forty working a shit job for little pay. The guy spent almost every spare cent he had on strippers and whores. Fucked a different girl every week. If all you want is sex, you can get it.
/r/MGTOW25/08/16 01:39 PM
3

Sex is no longer limited to marriage or even a long term relationship. You can find a partner for virtually any sex act you want nowadays through online dating, fetish forums and whores. Yes, you can have a good, healthy long term relationship but the odds aren't in your favour. 40-50% of marriages end in divorce and many that stay married are miserable but stay together out of convenience or "for the kids". Nobody goes to the altar thinking "this is going to end in a horrible divorce". I'm not …
/r/MGTOW25/08/16 01:25 PM
0

Our evolutionary symbiosis was predicated on conditions that don't exist in the modern world. Men evolved to protect women from the harsh conditions of nature during pregnancy and nursing. Our society is still built around those instincts. Our complimentary functions are increasingly superfluous. So, we must evaluate long term relationships as they exist today. What do men gain? What do men lose?
/r/MGTOW25/08/16 01:08 PM
6

Shame is only useful if it motivates you to change. Download Tinder. Fuck someone else and then see how interested your "friend" is in your sexual exploits. Sex isn't the be all and end all but it is the easiest way for you to stop obsessing. The PUA's are too obsessed with sex but they get some things right. One of them is that you have to have an abundance mentality. There are lots of fish in the sea, stop worrying about the one you can't catch.
/r/MGTOW24/08/16 01:01 PM
1

The self-employed category is considered part of the labor force but you may be right about that being where the guys she's talking about are. It's about 12% of men and 7% of women. That category covers everything from highly paid consultants to handy men so it's hard to assess.
/r/MGTOW23/08/16 03:52 PM
5

The Bureau of Labor Statistics actually asked people why they don't work: http://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-4/people-who-are-not-in-the-labor-force-why-arent-they-working.htm Quick breakdown for 25-54 year old men: 6% on Disability or other health issues 1.1% Retired early 1.2% Stay-at-home Dads/ House Husband's 1.6% In school - retraining, post-grads etc. 1.6% Other reasons So, maybe some people milk disability but overall there isn't this massive group of slackers out there. Edit: Also worth …
/r/MGTOW23/08/16 12:49 PM
10

At least we beat the PUA's. Haha.
/r/MGTOW22/08/16 07:31 PM
5

The war was lost a long time ago. All you can do is try to survive the occupation. If you want a resistance try r/mensrights or something.
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 02:44 PM
0

To call the UAE and Qatar rich is to fundamentally not understand how wealth in the middle east is distributed. There simply isn't the standard of living present in other wealthy countries. The Minnesota Transracial-phobia Adoption Study is at best, inconclusive per its own authors. The other charts are not cited.
/r/MGTOW18/08/16 06:39 PM
-1

I'll push back on the IQ thing. If IQ were genetically determined we would expect identical twins to have identical IQ's. Except studies of identical twins show significant variation, particularly for those raised apart. That variation exists in spite of the fact that the circumstances may not be significantly different in all cases. Everything from malnutrition to shitty parenting to environmental toxins may limit a person's IQ. Let's take a simple example. Do you think that if you tested a gro…
/r/MGTOW18/08/16 02:09 PM
6

That's what is so funny about it. The blue collar guys that work here make bank. Some of them take home more than I do.
/r/MGTOW15/08/16 01:23 PM
8

You are technically correct. However, it's her hypergamous instinct that leads to that reaction. That's the point. She couldn't even disguise her disgust.
/r/MGTOW15/08/16 11:48 AM
62

I've never found it that daunting but point taken. Quick story. Went out with this girl from Tinder this weekend. We're talking and I mention where I work. My company is known for blue collar workers and this girl has a masters. Her face drops, she asks me what I do. I explain that my job is white collar. Suddenly, she's all smiles again. Fucking transparent as shit. The blue collar workers at my company have a hard-ass job. I respect the hell out of them. Fuck her and her hypergamy.
/r/MGTOW15/08/16 02:05 AM
2

It actually has very little to do with Canada. A few factors. The field for women's sport is a lot thinner. It's easier to qualify for countries where women play sports. Also, Canadian women benefit from Title IX in the US. The NCAA is a big reason for US success and Canadian women take advantage of schools desperate to balance their scholarships. The other factor is some poor men's teams. The men's basketball should have qualified but choked in the decisive game.
/r/MGTOW11/08/16 11:49 AM
1

Make more money. I don't know if the number you cited is net or gross of tax but it doesn't matter. Unless you're in school full time, there's no excuse for working what? 20 hours a week? when you're broke. Budgeting and frugality are great but if you're only taking in 6k a year, you're not having much fun. Go find a second job.
/r/MGTOW10/08/16 01:23 PM
6

I'm glad you're here. The Forever Alone stuff always seemed profoundly unhelpful, if not harmful. I know some people here disagree but I'd rather you made MGTOW lemonade out of the lemons life gave you than sit around feeling sorry for yourself.
/r/MGTOW10/08/16 01:15 PM
2

The dear colleague letter from the DOE on Title IX is up there with the war in Libya as one of the worst decisions made by the Obama administration. All of this crap came as a result of that letter. No university will challenge the dubious legal rationale behind the letter because they can't afford to lose their research grants. It's blackmail and it's ruining lives.
/r/MGTOW09/08/16 01:22 PM
8

Because they somehow have deluded themselves into thinking that keeping a house clean is work.
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 07:09 PM
1

Avoid long term relationships that restrict you, past that it's up to you. Yes, a woman could make more than a man. It's far less common and usually the gap is small. It doesn't change her and society's expectations of her partner. It just means that the man is falling short of what is expected. MGTOW is a cost-benefit analysis for heterosexual men. If other groups do a similar analysis and come to the same conclusion, so be it. The blue pill is the romantic lies we are all told about love and r…
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 01:10 PM
9

I wholeheartedly agree. However, at this point there's another reason to stick around this community. Right now we have two fundamentally flawed theories of gender relations. The traditionalist model espoused by conservatives and PUA's ignores how changes in technology et al. have impacted contemporary gender relations. The feminist model ignores biology and reduces men to a demonic force. As far as I can tell, the only people seriously looking for an alternative model of gender relations are in…
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 03:59 PM
2

I nearly burst out laughing in the middle of the office.
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 03:03 PM
10

White nationalist hogwash. You aren't saving civilisation by having a litter of trailer trash. All you're doing is obeying your primal instincts to reproduce. Congratulations, you've accomplished something achievable by a gnat.
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 02:15 PM
4

It's an archipelago!
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 07:33 PM
23

It's not that the goal is unattainable. If you're only here because you don't think a woman will settle down and have kids with you, we won't be able to help. If you're starting to realise that your goal is undesirable, that's a different story. Everyone struggles to find purpose in life - married men, single men, married women, single women: we're all trying to find purpose. Reproduction might be a worthy life goal for an insect but humans often crave something more.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 06:55 PM
10

Yep. All those gender studies majors have to do something.
/r/MGTOW21/07/16 01:03 PM
1

So, he's been living with her? Depending on the law in your jurisdiction he might be really fucked. If she's pregnant with his kid, he's definitely on the hook for that one. There's a provision in Canadian law I know where someone can be ordered to pay child support for a step-child if they have "stood in place" of a parent. So, if he was raising the jailbird's kid, he could be viewed as having taken responsibility for the child and be liable for child support. The legal principle is called "in …
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 02:56 PM
6

I completely understand what you're talking about here but the lifestyle I want to have is much more compatible with a 9-5 grind. I get that a lot of guys want more freedom in their work but for me, the freedom I have when I'm not working is worth the 40 hours a week I spend in an office. The key for me is all the choices I've made have been my choices. I didn't take my job because my wife wanted a bigger house or because I have to put a kid through university.
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 03:18 PM
3

Man, a nice whiskey is one of the great pleasures in life. It's really hard to piss me off if I have a nice glass of scotch in my hand.
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 03:10 PM
16

Predictable hypocrisy.
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 01:41 PM
1

I think the OP on the original thread hit the random sub-reddit button but your point is well made regardless.
/r/MGTOW13/07/16 02:25 PM
1

A university degree is a reasonable way for a woman to assess earnings potential. Does that mean a gender studies major will make more than an electrician? No, of course not but that's about people undervaluing the trades more than overvaluing the degree. Just because a threshold is overly restrictive ("I won't date anyone without a degree") doesn't make it arbitrary. Arbitrary implies that there's no justification for the standard. The data on earnings by university graduates vs. non-graduates …
/r/MGTOW11/07/16 07:35 PM
5

Hypergamy isn't arbitrary it's a biological instinct reinforced by everything society teaches women from day 1.
/r/MGTOW11/07/16 05:15 PM
1

I don't know why I feel to compelled to educate a troll but here goes nothing. Our gender roles are not enforced upon us by some shadowy cabal of politicians and media personalities. The expectations put upon men, to provide and protect, are enforced by both men and women. We aren't feminists. We don't believe in a grand gynarchic conspiracy here. It doesn't matter to the individual where those expectations come from. The reality is that any woman that I would theoretically choose to marry would…
/r/MGTOW09/07/16 06:50 AM
1

I'll say here what I said on Shedding of the Ego. This androcidal fantasy wouldn't even create the traditional utopia this PUA wants. Universities are now 60/40 women to men, what happens? Women get sluttier as they have to compete for fewer available men.
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 01:25 PM
25

Women tend to rely far more heavily on social standing for their self-worth. By photographically documenting the good points in their life, they make themselves look better in the eyes are of their peers. It's a sure sign of emotional insecurity.
/r/MGTOW07/07/16 01:01 PM
17

TRP has a big traditionalist streak. For all their Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks talk a lot of those guys just want a 50's housewife who will stay home and pump out kids. They come to TRP to learn how to hunt their "unicorn". How they keep forgetting that the point of the unicorn metaphor is that they don't exist is beyond me.
/r/MGTOW06/07/16 05:18 PM
1

What's interesting here is not that the bias was the exact opposite of what feminists think it is. I think we all assume that from the title. What interests me is the dropout rate. So, the idea here is that people come to this interviewing.io site to practice their interviewing skills. Presumably, that means if you do a practice interview with them, you think interviewing is something you can improve on. However, women were seven times more likely than men to quit if their first interview went b…
/r/MGTOW01/07/16 04:34 AM
2

Apart from detecting out and out resume fraud, you're absolutely right; an interview is not going to accurately predict work performance. Hopefully, by the time you get to an interview you have a group of qualified candidates and what you're trying to find is someone you can work with. Even if there's a seemingly rigid scoring system, if you form a human connection with the person interviewing you, you're way more likely to do well.
/r/MGTOW01/07/16 04:27 AM
1

Same reason men are the majority of CEO's and work the vast majority of life-threatening jobs: testosterone. Testosterone is linked to risk taking behaviour. When channeled positively, that means men take bigger legal risks and succeed. When channeled negatively, that means men end up in jail. That shouldn't be surprising to anyone around here. There are some other mitigating factors that the r/mensrights people would be better suited to explain but I'll give you the Coles' notes version. It's h…
/r/MGTOW01/07/16 04:19 AM
43

I think the more salient justification is if she's going to cheat, she's going to cheat. Just because you say no, doesn't mean the next guy will. Having said that, I don't operate that way. I'd feel like too much of a dirtbag. I also have no interest in dealing with the jealous boyfriend. There are plenty of single women out there.
/r/MGTOW30/06/16 02:13 PM
2

Which part of my post is "collectivist"? The part where I called the EU corrupt and undemocratic? The part where I pointed out that the government isn't responsible for failed businesses? Or the part where I defended companies making decisions based on free market principles and predictable legal environments?
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 04:14 PM
2

Non-EU immigration is already controlled by the UK. That's why the migrants are stuck in Calais. So, the only change is for Europeans. Globalisation has brought hundreds of millions of people out of poverty and today's decision will do nothing to stop it. The first priority according to the leave camp is to negotiate a free trade deal with the EU. So, any tariff protections that the UK could put up to de-globalise would go away. In fact, the leave camp has advocated for more free trade deals now…
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 03:39 PM
-5

Keep blaming the world for your problems. See how far that gets you.
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 03:17 PM
-8

Yep, the whole world is a giant conspiracy. That must be it. /S Buddy, would you invest in a country where you don't know what the rules are going to be in 2-3 years?
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 02:49 PM
-4

Hate to rain on the parade but this is unbelievably stupid. Yes, the EU is undemocratic and corrupt but that's an argument for reform not exit. Yes, a free trade deal would get a lot of the benefits back but that could take years. The US has been negotiating with the EU since 2013 and isn't particularly close to finalising a deal. Remember, the US is a larger economy that didn't just stab the EU in the back. Brexit isn't going to re-open the coal mines in Newcastle or the textile mills in Manche…
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 02:44 PM
11

Oh my God this is stupid. So the age range here is 22-35. Most people are more satisfied with their lives at 35 than at 22. We also know that a higher percentage of men are married at 35 than at 22. So, yes, the older more professionally established married guys are happier than the younger, just starting out, single guys. Shocking!
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 12:55 PM
1

George RR Martin is a huge feminist. I like ASOIAF in spite of it. Yeah, there was a heavy dose of girls rule, boys drool last night but complaining about feminism on Game of Thrones is silly. It's a feminist work.
/r/MensRights20/06/16 03:57 PM
3

Sandman is Canadian and sounds Canadian. TFM is American and sounds American.
/r/MGTOW19/06/16 05:56 PM
3

Chivalry didn't die. It just got rebranded as feminism.
/r/MGTOW09/06/16 05:31 PM
8

I'm an older (early 30's) millennial but I figure with all of the high school and college kids around my story might be useful. My parents have a story book marriage. They met young, married young and have stayed together for 40+ years. They both seem to genuinely still be in love. Most of my family is the same - happily married to their first spouse. I really don't have a red pill moment per se. Chasing girls has never really been a priority in my life. Once in a while something fell in my lap …
/r/MGTOW08/06/16 03:22 PM
9

I love how he can't conceive of the idea that a successful man would want to hang out online with other men who have chosen a similar path. How is learning from and providing advice to your peers a bad thing? These professional PUA types sure are sensitive about the whole PUA is a scam thing, eh? This guy has no conception of moderation or life balance. In his world you either spend your life chasing women or you are addicted to porn and video games. He can't understand that you can play video g…
/r/MGTOW06/06/16 07:13 PM
1

Yes, the difference is now that's a symptom of a fucked up child support, custody and alimony system. If there are no kids and both parties are dirt poor, there's no incentive to lie about that shit. Under at-fault divorce, you had to make up a reason in order to get a divorce. Marriages will, under any system, fail. Hypergamy being the main reason but by no means the only reason. The question is what is the best system to handle that? To paraphrase Churchill, no-fault divorce is the worst syste…
/r/MGTOW04/06/16 02:03 PM
7

No-fault divorce while awful is still way better than the at-fault divorce system it replaced. The reason that Ronald Reagan brought in no-fault divorce is because he was petitioned by family law judges to do so. They were getting tired of people coming into their courts and lying about adultery or abuse in order to get a divorce. Marriages that are going to fail will fail regardless of the statutory provisions. Is it better for a man to stay married but have his wife cheat on him constantly? Is…
/r/MGTOW03/06/16 03:37 AM
1

OK. So, let's start with the property. I assume that if you have about 15k now and your looking to buy in August with 20% down, you're looking at property in the 100-150k range. That leaves you a mortgage in the 80-120k range. That's not much of a mortgage to carry in today's low interest rate environment. Without knowing your income, I can only suggest looking into a) paying bi-weekly and b) condensing the amortisation period as much as your income allows. The goal here is to pay as little inte…
/r/MGTOW01/06/16 07:55 PM
4

He actually understates how useless they are. At least in Canada. A millionaire got his pre-nup thrown out because his wife used the lawyer he recommended as opposed to letting her find her own. Also, in Canada, you can't put the value of the matrimonial home into the agreement. So, even if you buy a place before you get married, you made 100% of the down payment and all subsequent mortgage payments once she moves in and married you, she gets 50%.
/r/MGTOW01/06/16 01:43 PM
6

The TRP bros might be pussy worshippers but MGTOW and TRP share an evolutionary understanding of the sexual marketplace. They're also absolutely correct in thinking that self-pity is a fairly useless emotion. If you look at the way women choose mates and you find it repulsive, I get that. Understanding the reasons why a woman is interested in me doesn't make my dick hard either. However, nothing about that means I'm going to sit here and bitch about women following their primal desires (as they …
/r/MGTOW31/05/16 06:43 PM
32

OK. I'm done with these self-pitying "Chad" posts. This isn't TFL for fuck's sake. If you want to fuck 8s, raise your SMV and fuck 8s. Yeah, guys date down to insulate themselves from hypergamy. Why is that a surprise? Also, shocker, girls who can get guys off by looking at them aren't great lays. They never had to be. MGTOW isn't about being butthurt because your high school crush wouldn't give you the time of day. It's about understanding why and more importantly why it doesn't matter. The sex…
/r/MGTOW31/05/16 03:46 PM
2

Arbitrary standards are arbitrary but I'm just shy of six figures in my late 20's. Most people at my level at my company are in their late 40's, early 50's. Should hit 100k in a couple years. Right now I'm in the top 10-15% of income earners in my age bracket in my city. Now, troll, why would I want to give a woman half of my hard-earned money either through marriage or divorce?
/r/MGTOW30/05/16 05:30 PM
6

I understand staying with a company if you're treated well. As soon as you reach the point where you know you can't get a raise/ promotion is the point where you have to start looking elsewhere. You can't afford loyalty or sentimentality in the 21st century. One point of caution: if you switch jobs too frequently, it will scare off potential employers. Going through the hiring/training process is expensive and employers don't want to hire someone for a full time permanent position if they think …
/r/MGTOW30/05/16 01:31 PM
2

CHL and NCAA are both developmental leagues. They both pay in university scholarships. I really don't see much of a difference. Quality of CIS hockey is higher than generally believed but is still third tier in North American development hockey.
/r/MGTOW26/05/16 03:54 PM
9

The Canadian women's hockey team trains against Canadian university men's teams. Those teams are made up of players that weren't good enough for the NCAA which is itself viewed as a lesser league compared to the CHL. So one of the top two women's hockey teams on the planet trains against third tier 18-21 year olds.
/r/MGTOW26/05/16 01:11 PM
4

All of these "marriage is good for you" studies completely fail to establish causation. Are wealthy men wealthy because they're married? Or are they more likely to be married because they are wealthy? Hypergamy would seem to favour the latter explanation.
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 06:40 PM
3

I'm not sure what"mutually beneficial pair bonding" looks like in the 21st century.
/r/MGTOW20/05/16 06:28 PM
3

Almost every groom thinks they're marrying a unicorn yet 40% of marriages end in divorce. There isn't some magic combination of qualities that changes that.
/r/MGTOW20/05/16 02:37 PM
6

Brother, if you're happy, I'm happy for you. Everyone has their own path to follow. I don't think MGTOW is for everyone. What makes me laugh is these guys who understand the risks of divorce but think somehow they're immune. I've seen enough divorced alpha guys to know better. Fundamentally, you can only control your own actions in life. If you don't think the risks of divorce are justified by the joys of an LTR, MGTOW is the only rational choice. What I always advocate for men is to do their ow…
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 07:22 PM
8

You know what is on this sub-reddit too much? This type of "why don't we have more lifestyle posts?" Fuck. If people want more shit on lifestyle, post it. Be the change you want.
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 03:03 PM
7

Both. "I am the alpha and the omega", right?
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 02:57 PM
13

There are those over in TRP-land who think you can mitigate the risk of divorce by marrying 'correctly'. They're right insofar as there are certain demographics that have lower divorce rates. Among the things that lowers divorce rates? College education. It's almost funny that the same factor increases the chance that the woman will instigate divorce.
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 01:28 PM
1

That's probably a good assessment.
/r/MGTOW06/05/16 07:26 PM
10

Honestly, I hate talking about myself socially but I have no problem doing so professionally for an interview. There's a certain amount of distance in an interview that makes it more comfortable.
/r/MGTOW06/05/16 02:06 PM
2

6.5-7 during the week 8-9 on the weekend. I need to start getting to bed earlier so I can get my workout in before work instead of after. Unfortunately, my body thinks I'm still in university and falling asleep before midnight is a challenge. Even after a good workout.
/r/MGTOW05/05/16 03:06 PM
5

Look. You're 19. Go online, go on a few dates. Fuck a few women. Especially at your age, no one is going to be surprised if it doesn't go anywhere. If the aura of the golden uterus makes everything you hear from MGTOW seem crazy, so be it. No one's the wiser if you go back to the plantation. However, if after getting your dick wet a few times, you still think long term relationships and marriage are piss poor decisions, you'll know it wasn't because you couldn't do it.
/r/MGTOW05/05/16 02:34 AM
32

She believes in patriarchy theory but not diabetes. facepalm
/r/MGTOW04/05/16 10:46 PM
9

Russian roulette is the standard metaphor for a crazy risk not worth taking. You win 83% of the time in Russian roulette. Marriage. Not even once.
/r/MGTOW04/05/16 06:50 PM
0

Kids today. Why don't they just go to masked balls and collect stamps.
/r/MGTOW03/05/16 06:20 PM
3

You need a second screen. So much easier.
/r/MGTOW30/04/16 09:46 PM
1

I don't equate MGTOW with social isolation. I know some people do. My friends know I'm single and not really looking. I don't need to risk offending people I like and have long standing relationships with by explaining my reasons. I'm doing this because it makes me happy. My blue pill friends make me happy too. It's not like my choice to go my own way impacts them.
/r/MGTOW29/04/16 12:58 PM
4

Yep. Major professional and social liability. I'll keep my views to myself.
/r/MGTOW28/04/16 08:03 PM
2

I'm glad TL;DR is showing his MGTOW colours these days. It's nice to have someone with his broader appeal making our case for us. There are lots of guys who won't watch Bar Bar or Stardusk who watch TL;DR religiously.
/r/MGTOW27/04/16 12:45 PM
2

You can't run away from your problems. Whatever is making you depressed indoors doesn't go away because you're standing beside a tree. Yes, a change of pace is required from time to time but it isn't a long term cure. You need to address whatever you're dealing with. Yes, the blue pill world can be a nuisance but you can't blame it for your problems. The only one who can make your life better is you. If you want to be happier, nothing in the blue pill world can stop you.
/r/MGTOW25/04/16 04:00 AM
2

I think we have to differentiate between types of anti-feminist. To my mind there are three groups of non-MGTOW anti-feminists. The first is the one Bar Bar is criticizing. These guys (and girls) generally came to anti-feminism through either atheism or GamerGate. They don't really give a shit about men. They don't really have any ideas of their own. All they do is "say feminism is stupid". Occasionally, they'll throw out the "MGTOW is just as stupid as feminism" stuff just so they don't get cal…
/r/MGTOW23/04/16 02:18 PM
3

I don't have a horse either up here in the great white north but I don't vote on men's issues. Hillary is a militant feminist. Trump is an unknown quantity on gender issues but there's little to say he's be less gynocentric than previous Republicans. He stands behind 99% of the shit he says but he misspeaks on abortion and he's falling all over himself to issue corrections. He says himself that he'd be a great president for women.
/r/MGTOW21/04/16 01:04 PM
9

Look up bird mating rituals on YouTube. Mating rituals are fucked in a lot of species.
/r/MGTOW20/04/16 02:47 PM
11

Look, you're reaching out for a reason. I don't know you. I can't possibly understand the shit you've gone through. All I can say to you is that if you want to improve your life you can. You can move to a different town. You can get a better job. You can get treatment for your schizoaffective disorder. You have the freedom to do anything you want. The only way you lose that freedom is if you give up.
/r/MGTOW20/04/16 02:37 PM
1

The first real job I had out of school was an entry-level data entry job that can and will be automated. It's already happening. The job I have now is a decision-making role that"s not easily turned into an algorithm. Too many variables and exceptions. The first job I had, I was 1 of 20 people doing the same shit. Now I'm the only one doing what I do. Companies are going to try to eliminate or consolidate the big pool of workers long before they try to automate one heavily specialized position.
/r/MGTOW19/04/16 07:45 PM
16

Disney has shown this happy, care free male character a few times. They even gave them the good songs. "Bare Necessities" is the only memorable song from The Jungle Book. Timon and Poumba from The Lion King get "Hakuna Matata" which has the same message. Generally the only reason the protagonists deviate from that carefree life is because of a woman. Basically, Disney is saying you can be happy or you can get the girl. Pretty red pill message.
/r/MGTOW19/04/16 06:34 PM
1

The white collar automation crisis won't happen overnight. It's doable now but the transition costs are holding people back. If you've ever worked in an office chances are you've encountered some legacy software system that's 15+ years old. So, yeah, you could probably eliminate a slew of bookkeepers for example tomorrow but it just isn't happening. The automation/outsourcing risks are also concentrated at the bottom of the food chain. If you believe that your industry will be automated/outsourc…
/r/MGTOW19/04/16 06:07 PM
21

I realized recently that I haven't had a crush on someone for almost ten years. It's liberating. Honestly, go talk to her. Right now, you're projecting positives on her that probably aren't real. Once you figure out she's just another girl, you'll be able to move on.
/r/MGTOW18/04/16 02:14 PM
3

Another good theory. Point is it's not one cause.
/r/MGTOW17/04/16 11:04 PM
1

We've found the root. It's gynocentrism. The same root that Karen Straughan identifies. It's the same root Alison Tieman identifies when she talks about male outgroup preference and female ingroup preference. The difference between us and the MRM is we know that we can't destroy the root. It isn't some vast female conspiracy that needs to be defeated. The root is human nature. There's no difference for me between traditionalism and feminism. They're both gynocentric constructs designed to protec…
/r/MGTOW16/04/16 06:10 AM
13

Not to sound too TRP, but do you even lift, bruh? In all seriousness, get some exercise into your daily routine. Good for the body. Good for the mind.
/r/MGTOW15/04/16 06:37 PM
3

No one really knows why the crime rates started falling. The Freakonomics guys credit abortion reducing the number of unwanted children. I've heard plausible theories about video games keeping at risk kids off the street. It's posdible the AIDS panic led to better condom usage further reducing unplanned pregnancy. I don't think there's just one factor. What we know is that if you do a survey of the prison population, you find a disproportionate number of kids who were raised by single moms. This…
/r/MGTOW15/04/16 06:34 PM
10

Of course. Some fathers die, some are in jail, some actually abandon their families. So what? It doesn't change the risk to children of single mothers and it doesn't make single mothers a more attractive option for dating. There are lots of good single moms out there. Some might be your friends and relatives. The criticism I have is our beatification of single motherhood. We should treat it like living in public housing. Yes, sometimes good people end up in that circumstance but it should be som…
/r/MGTOW15/04/16 01:08 PM
4

I'm still trying to discern what lessons about love I was supposed to take from Dostoevsky. Fall in love with whores (Crime and Punishment)? Kill your lover's other suitors (Brothers Karamazov)? Women are unfaithful and will run off with bad boys (The Idiot)? Seriously, Dostoevsky? WTF?!?!
/r/MGTOW14/04/16 03:22 PM
2

I love how he ascribes his generosity to his single mom but not his life of crime. We know that a disproportionate number of inmates are raised by single moms. It shows how strong what Chinweizu calls the Power of the Cradle is.
/r/MGTOW14/04/16 12:41 PM
3

Don't get confused by the echo chamber. We will never be mainstream enough to be consequential. Most men would rather die than go their own way.
/r/MGTOW13/04/16 07:44 PM
9

There are already significant tax incentives for married couples in most jurisdictions. They don't call it a bachelor tax but that's what it is.
/r/MGTOW08/04/16 06:13 PM
8

As a MGTOW, you need to find something that will allow you to live the life you want. The main advice I'd give is to realize what separates people making minimum wage and people making 6 figures or more. It isn't hard work. Lots of people at the bottom of the food chain work hard. Your salary is dependant on two things: how much responsibility you have and how many other people could do your job. If your job has no responsibility, it won't pay that well. Likewise, if someone off the street could…
/r/MGTOW04/04/16 07:24 PM
3

I don't disagree with you in principle but it becomes more challenging in practice. I view hypergamy and gynocentrism the same way I view the need to eat or drink. It's a part of nature. There's nothing gained by being angry. The challenge is how do you convince a man who has been sold a romantic lie all his life that he's wrong? You have to shock him out of his complacency somehow. Anger is effective. I don't like the victim narrative shit either but it takes time and a lot of self-reflection t…
/r/MGTOW30/03/16 01:13 PM
4

Stay-at-home mooch complaining about stay-at-home mooches. It's amazing how few of these anti-feminist women have real jobs.
/r/MGTOW29/03/16 12:27 AM
1

Depends on my mood.
/r/MGTOW24/03/16 07:32 PM
2

Your character is not changed by your relationship status. If you are bothered by the way you act, look, feel, whatever, you need to take responsibility and change it. No woman can fix what you feel is broken. You have the ability to change your life for the better. Seize this opportunity.
/r/MGTOW14/03/16 12:43 PM
11

More like indentured servitude. You entered into the contract under your own free will but that doesn't make it much more bearable. MGTOW exists for a reason.
/r/MensRights01/03/16 04:07 PM
1

Most of the people in this city don't play the victim card. I do think that feminists portraying feminism as being akin to anti-racism is part of it. If you grew up here, there's a good chance you grew up with friends from different ethnic and religious backgrounds. Toronto may be the most functional multicultural society in the West. It is really hard to be actually racist towards a group when you have friends of that group. So, when feminists say "If you hate racism, you should hate sexism too…
/r/MGTOW22/02/16 02:51 PM
9

I still don't get how our polite, reserved city became the home of screaming feminist banshees. You're not alone brother.
/r/MGTOW22/02/16 05:54 AM
6

This song has always seemed very MGTOW themed to me. Abandoning responsibilities that you don't want and letting the world get along without you? Pretty on point.
/r/MGTOW22/02/16 05:48 AM
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I wouldn't describe it as inspiring but The Manipulated Man and The Anatomy of Female Power are on the sidebar for a reason. If you haven't read them, you should. PDF's of both are online.
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 04:02 PM
10

He needs to plan for his independence. I agree it won't happen overnight.
/r/MGTOW12/02/16 06:09 PM
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It's almost funny. The stepdaughter making a false accusation doesn't even upset me anymore. It's so predictable. But a father not standing by his son? That makes me want to punch a wall. Thank God I was raised by a better man.
/r/MGTOW12/02/16 03:40 PM
18

That kid needs to get out of that house. I don't know how you can live with a man who lets his own son rot in prison when he has the ability to get him out. Sickening.
/r/MGTOW12/02/16 03:22 PM
6

I ain't saying she's a golddigger, I'm saying all women are.
/r/MGTOW10/02/16 04:35 PM
1

Gah. My ears. My eyes. It burns. It burns.
/r/MGTOW05/02/16 01:32 AM
5

I don't use my real name for anything manosphere related. Just common sense.
/r/MGTOW02/02/16 02:32 PM
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I love how they include a movie where the main female character is literally mute for half the film.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 06:40 PM
3

I used to do this sort of thing for a living. I was helping companies not individuals but the principles are the same. The biggest thing is to set things up properly ahead of time. So, if you're going to start a business, incorporate before you spend or receive a penny. If you're going to make an investment, figure out how you can minimize the tax on the profits before you make it. Also, make sure you understand what you're entitled to. It might not make sense to use an accountant to do your tax…
/r/MGTOW29/01/16 03:46 PM
4

This is an important point. My criticism above was in context. I understand why people cling to hope. Deciding to live life for yourself is scary. It scares me some days.
/r/MGTOW29/01/16 03:20 PM
1

Really interesting content.
/r/MGTOW29/01/16 02:40 AM
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Hope is illogical but a strong human emotion. Most men will never walk away. Go over to r/mensrights or r/theredpill. They see the horrors of feminism and yet they hope. They bail against an unceasing gynocentric in an effort to change misandric laws of they hunt for a magical unicorn who will make all the bad women disappear. So, they're right it won't collapse. There's another gynocentric man born every minute. But let's say that it did. What then? Well, they understand that when times get tou…
/r/MGTOW28/01/16 08:46 PM
1

Yeah, that would work.
/r/MGTOW27/01/16 09:03 PM
12

We need an Autobot response to these posts. I could set my watch by them.
/r/MGTOW27/01/16 06:19 PM
2

Lol. Concern troll is concerned? Search "Black MGTOW" on YouTube. It's not a short list of content priducers. Bar Bar is Dominican. The Nigerian poet Chinweizu wrote The Anatomy of Female Power which is one of the most revered texts in the community. No, we don't have a diversity problem.
/r/MGTOW25/01/16 03:52 PM
7

Yeah, Diana's peculiar but she seems genuine. She's probably the most MGTOW supportive of the female anti-feminists. As long as she keeps telling it like it is, I won't impugn her motivations.
/r/MGTOW22/01/16 01:33 PM
1

At least this guy is not just trolling.
/r/MGTOW19/01/16 07:22 PM
11

Healthy? Maybe not. But that was the norm in middle class households. Homemaking is no longer a full-time job unless you have a like 5+ kids. I'm not at all burdened by keeping my home. I do the shopping, make dinner, do the dishes, do the laundry, clean the floors etc. I also work full-time. It's just not hard anymore. Of course, women were not all homemakers. Poor women have always worked. Single women usually did too. Women's employment has gone from about 1/3 in 1950 to about 2/3 today. Femi…
/r/MGTOW19/01/16 07:16 PM
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You're going to get flak for this post. Guaranteed. I don't think MGTOW has goals for society. I think most guys around here understand that there is no going back. Much of what you ascribe to feminism is in fact just technology changing the rules of the game. The birth control pill changed things. Other affordable, reliable methods of birth control did too. Running water changed things. So did electricity. Dishwashers, washing machines, vacuum cleaners and other modern conveniences made homemak…
/r/MGTOW19/01/16 06:48 PM
7

What the fuck happened to professionalism? So, let's pretend that this was actually a serious thing. Let's say he walked up and called her a cunt. Is he being inappropriate? Sure. Who the fuck cares. She's a cashier (by the sounds of it). Do your job. If you want to cry about it later, that's your prerogative but someone is paying you to deal with the public. Deal with the public.
/r/MGTOW16/01/16 07:14 AM
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You could get them some sort of tool. A drill is always useful. Maybe a multi-bit screwdriver if you don't want to spend a lot of money. But seriously, it's family and if you value your family there's probably no point in pissing them off with an outside the box gift (although I completely understand the impulse). Our choices are our own. If you want your cousin to respect your life choices, respect his. Of course, there's nothing stopping you from taking full advantage of the alcohol available …
/r/MGTOW16/01/16 07:06 AM
1

I understand your sentiment. Unfortunately, there is no escape. What you describe are functions of human nature and modern technology. Inescapable in the modern world. All you can do is make peace with it. Find an internal escape.
/r/MGTOW16/01/16 06:58 AM
5

I'm pretty sure porn is a free lunch as long as you don't become addicted to it. However, I absolutely agree with the sentiment.
/r/MGTOW11/01/16 03:04 PM
11

As likely one of the few Jewish guys around here let me just say, damn! He's on to me! My nefarious scheme has been foiled! The elders of Zion are going to be so mad at me. I might lose my Jew-gold for this. Seriously, I wish I had 1% of the power/money that the neo-nazis think I do. It would be great. Unfortunately, I don't secretly run the world.
/r/MGTOW11/01/16 02:24 PM
5

If all you want out of a long term relationship is unprotected sex, that's a pretty bad reason to be with a woman. Also, hideously expensive. A friend with benefits that you know is on the pill could work for that. Assuming you can trust that she's clean...
/r/MGTOW07/01/16 02:04 PM
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MGTOW is not a social fix. It's about doing what's best for you. The odds of MGTOW becoming large enough to do any damage to society is remote. You have to decide what's best for you. There's no ideal MGTOW society. Jerk off. One night stands. Friends with benefits. Whores. Lots of options. MGTOW is not necessarily about abstinence.
/r/MGTOW07/01/16 01:39 PM
2

Jimmy Kimmel used used to host a show that ended with a segment called "Girls Jumping on Trampolines". He probably wants people to forget that.
/r/MGTOW07/01/16 03:34 AM
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Her wealth has no impact on her hypergamy. She still wants more. So, either she cheats on you, you end up with a dead bedroom or both. All you're doing by marrying rich is raising the expectations she has for you. How is that a good deal?
/r/MGTOW05/01/16 04:49 PM
1

This article seems to be more wishful thinking than anything else. There is little evidence that governments will roll back social programs for children in the face of declining birth rates. In fact, as he points out, many countries are expanding childcare benefits to try to encourage more births. This means that single motherhood will still be a viable (if lousy for the kids) option. The phenomenon of mothers having multiple children by multiple fathers confounds his expectation that only patri…
/r/MGTOW04/01/16 02:23 PM
7

Yep. This shit should be considered child abuse. This kid should be taken away from her care. She's dangerous.
/r/MGTOW03/01/16 05:39 AM
11

Deflect and evade. "I just haven't met the right person" or just "No." Just don't elaborate. No reason to pick a fight in the office.
/r/MGTOW01/01/16 06:24 AM
1

I'm being slightly hyperbolic, but yes. I concede that there are very rare circumstances where an individual boss might discriminate based on sex. Especially in cases where an industry has been historically dominated by the opposite gender. So, I think it's hard to be a male kindergarten teacher and it's hard to be a female firefighter. That said, for the overwhelming majority of people, gender will not play a significant factor in whether or not they succeed. At least not in North America. Your…
/r/MGTOW31/12/15 03:29 PM
1

I'm going to give you a better answer than you deserve; I assume you're trolling. I'm going to make some of my brothers here blanch but MGTOW does share certain ideas with feminism. Insofar as feminism criticizes restrictive traditional male gender roles such as the protector/provider archetype, MGTOW agrees. However, the feminist criticism generally seeks to replace that archetype with an emasculated, feminized version of masculinity that is unnatural and at worst actively harmful to the men wh…
/r/MGTOW31/12/15 07:04 AM
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I don't object to the concept of equal opportunity, even if it's likely unobtainable - rich kids will always have an advantage. I reject the concept of equal opportunity for women for the same reason that I reject the concept of equal opportunity for brunettes; it's a non-issue. Gender, like hair colour, is not something that prevents people from succeeding politically, economically or socially.
/r/MGTOW31/12/15 06:44 AM
1

Equal opportunity for everyone is a decent organizing principle for society. Nobody should be held back for arbitrary reasons. However, the idea of equal opportunity "for women" is ridiculous, at least in the West. Name one circumstance where women, because of their gender, are deprived equal political, social or economic opportunity. By supporting "equal opportunity for women," you imply that women do not already have equal opportunity. That is what I categorically reject.
/r/MGTOW31/12/15 06:41 AM
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Can confirm. Moved to the public sector here to make more money. Lower ceiling than the private sector but you can make a damn good living. Especially if you're MGTOW and only need to support yourself.
/r/MGTOW30/12/15 06:00 PM
1

I'm relatively close to that. I save a lot of it. I want to retire in my 50's so, that involves paying future me first. I don't want to spend my life following stocks so I just have some index funds that I throw money into every paycheque. 25-30 years from now when I retire, the market will be higher and if it crashes in the short-medium term I'll invest more. I have a mortgage to pay (good luck saving enough to pay cash for a home in Toronto.) But I'm taking advantage of the low interest rates …
/r/MGTOW24/12/15 02:01 PM
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I won't criticize a guy for doing what he's been taught to do his entire life. It's just another life lost to gynocentrism.
/r/MGTOW18/12/15 09:35 PM
1

There are already bachelor taxes. We just call them tax breaks for families. In most jurisdictions there are tax benefits to marriage meaning that bachelors pay more tax. We just don't call them bachelor taxes.
/r/MGTOW18/12/15 05:10 PM
11

We don't need the media. Roosh wants the attention to make money. The MRA want the attention to advance their causes. What do we gain? Nothing.
/r/MGTOW17/12/15 08:47 PM
10

We came off as mysterious. That's not a bad thing. We came off a lot better than Roosh. That's for damn sure. I didn't really agree with Niko and Bar Bar's decision to back out of the interview, but I understand it. Being called paranoid is not the worst thing in the world. I think the only lesson is don't make race jokes at a reporter.
/r/MGTOW17/12/15 05:39 PM
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The only part that pisses me off is portraying us as a racist movement. The black MGTOW movement is massive (he even showed a CS clip in his piece, FFS). So, yeah, cherrypicking the racist-sounding comments annoys me a bit. It's YouTube. You can find racist comments on cat videos. But on the whole, he basically didn't cover MGTOW because Bar Bar and Niko gave up on him after he stood them up. The piece makes us seem like this mysterious, unknowable thing. That's not bad marketing. Especially whe…
/r/MGTOW17/12/15 06:08 AM
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Who cares? Let them call us the devil incarnate. Does it change how you're going to live your life? Of course not.
/r/MGTOW16/12/15 08:52 PM
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We're a proxy. Same reason Milo Yiannopoulos, Martin Daubney et al have come to our defense. The right sees us as proof of the left's failures and the left sees us as a dangerous right wing insurrection. They're both wrong. We are, generally speaking - I obviously don't speak for everyone - as anti-traditionalist as we are anti-feminist. But all people in the media sieze on is the anti-feminist part. Then they line up on left/right grounds. Irony is that MGTOW is fundamentally apolitical. Let th…
/r/MGTOW16/12/15 08:49 PM
3

Nah, I'm betting she doesn't get along with her traditional parents and married the first guy who could get her out of her parents' home. Either that or she's a 2 and latched on to the first guy that would take her. A girl marrying someone other than her high school sweetheart at 19 raises a lot of alarm bells for me. No reason to be alpha widowed that young.
/r/MGTOW10/12/15 08:41 PM
4

He robbed the cradle to marry her. She would have been just 19. He wasn't her plan B.
/r/MGTOW10/12/15 07:38 PM
1

Absolutely. As long as you're acting for yourself though, there's no reason not to exploit that for short term gain.
/r/MGTOW10/12/15 02:25 PM
6

Your perception of your own success is tied to what you view as your goals. If your goal is to fuck hot women and you don't, you fail. If you make your goals something non-sexual, you can feel like a success regardless of your sexual success. None of the above precludes you from having sexual success. More importantly, nor does MGTOW. Girls generally like guys that don't appear interested. They also like guys who have and demonstrate ambition. Ironically, by focusing on personal goals, you're mo…
/r/MGTOW09/12/15 06:29 PM
1

From May...
/r/MGTOW09/12/15 06:16 PM
2

MGTOW is about men recognising the inherent risks and drawbacks of heterosexual relationships and choosing to find purpose, fulfilment and happiness elsewhere. At its best, it is a cool-headed, rational understanding on how our society views men and women and a logical response to that understanding.
/r/MGTOW08/12/15 07:19 PM
4

Hypergamous doubt can't be quelled. It can be quieted for a short time, maybe even a long time but it can't be quelled. Instinct can be suppressed but never killed.
/r/MGTOW07/12/15 07:41 PM
1

We've had this policy in Canada since 1989. As I recall zero Canadian women soldiers were killed in Afghanistan. They make up like 2.5% of front line infantry, even after 25 years of recruiting. You can change laws. You can't change human nature.
/r/MGTOW04/12/15 01:27 PM
1

Honestly, I might be able to have the conversation with my mother. My Dad's a different story. He's always been a great father. We have a good relationship. I have a ton of respect for the man. How do I explain to him that I think the choices he made - to be the traditional provider for his family- amount to a form of servitude?
/r/MGTOW03/12/15 08:46 PM
15

I'm in a similar position. My family expects me to get married. It won't happen. I avoid the subject. There's no point in telling people who have been happily married for over 40 years that you don't believe in marriage.
/r/MGTOW03/12/15 03:41 PM
2

If anyone missed the drama leading up to this, a review. Reggie put out a short YouTube video asking for people from the MGTOW community to talk to him. Barbarossaa and Niko I believe agreed originally and set up a time for a live Google hangout so that everyone could hear the interview unedited. Reggie agreed to this and then no showed. When Reggie tried to re-schedule, Bar Bar and Niko did some digging and realised that this was in all likelihood a hit piece so they then declined. So, I don't …
/r/MGTOW02/12/15 01:44 PM
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I have nearly five score difficulties, but a female canine is not amongst them.
/r/MGTOW01/12/15 04:57 PM
2

There's a link to the abstract. Study's behind a paywall.
/r/MGTOW01/12/15 03:34 PM
5

This is so stupid. So, they found when comparing men and women generally that there were differences but that those differences were not necessarily reflected on an individual basis. To then conclude that there are no differences is insane. Pretend you have two forests. One is generally older, deciduous trees and the other is generally young pines. What these guys did is walked into the forest, found some oaks in the pine forest and some pines in the deciduous forest and decided the forest was t…
/r/MGTOW01/12/15 02:58 PM
3

It's fascinating to watch the conservative media going through the stages of taking the red pill. I think we all had the "why the fuck don't people care?" moment. The question at this point is whether people like this author, Martin Daubney and Milo Yiannopoulos accept the MRA answer, "because feminism," or dig deeper and find the MGTOW truth. Gynocentrism isn't easy to accept but when the evidence is staring you in the face...
/r/MGTOW27/11/15 02:12 PM
2

I was where you are except I graduated into the teeth of the financial crisis. Didn't know wtf I was going to do with my life. I would recommend looking at the community colleges either for a skilled trade or some other marketable skill. That's what I did. I got the credentials I needed to get in the door. After that, it's up to you to make sure you don't get stuck in entry level purgatory.
/r/MGTOW25/11/15 08:53 PM
10

Replace men with blacks and it could come from stormfront.
/r/MGTOW25/11/15 08:05 PM
6

Am I the only one thinking up charge card related double entendres?
/r/MGTOW25/11/15 02:45 PM
18

MGTOW isn't a movement... It's an archipelago!
/r/MGTOW25/11/15 01:26 PM
1

Meh. This has more to do with assuaging conservative fear mongering than feminists. Sure, the women and children first shit is annoying and gynocentric but it's hardly an SJW idea.
/r/MGTOW23/11/15 02:46 PM
1

Great video from CS. Good introductory content. I think he goofed a bit with his hypergamy estimate but he makes his point.
/r/MGTOW23/11/15 02:43 PM
2

Would in a minute if I could.
/r/MGTOW19/11/15 08:41 PM
3

Because enforcing private contracts is one of the basic functions of government. I think even libertarians acknowledge the need for some sort of third party enforcement of private contracts. So, as long as government has to enforce the contract they have a responsibility to ensure its enforceable. That's where this stuff gets murky. The first rule that has to be followed in a private contract is that its terms must be legal. Think of the Merchant of Venice. Shylock can't get the state to enforce…
/r/MGTOW19/11/15 04:00 PM
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Given the divorce rate, the premiums would have to be huge.Marriage is a private contract enforced by the state. Any pseudo-marriage would end up in the same place. Remember, Ronald Reagan brought in no fault divorce because the at fault system wasn't working. As long as hypergamy exists as a human instinct, men will suffer when marriages dissolve.
/r/MGTOW19/11/15 02:38 PM
1

Here's some screencaps. Looks like it's missing a page. https://twitter.com/mare_frigoris1/status/665955099815100416?s=09 https://twitter.com/mare_frigoris1/status/665955236033490944?s=09 https://twitter.com/mare_frigoris1/status/665955493437927424?s=09
/r/MGTOW16/11/15 03:35 PM
3

I'm assuming the title's a Black Philip homage? If he's half as good as Patrice O'Neal, I'd listen.
/r/MGTOW13/11/15 08:52 PM
1

Shit like this always reminds me of that Tragically Hip line: "whoever fits her usually gets her. It was the strangest thing how she moved so fast, moved so fast into that wedding ring."
/r/MGTOW13/11/15 02:01 PM
1

Laundry's not a big deal. I just do it while I'm watching the game or something. I would say this: try to get a place with laundry in the unit. I lived in a building with the laundry downstairs and it was a pain.
/r/MGTOW13/11/15 01:49 PM
4

Love me a good stew. I'm glad it's stew weather again. I try to make a big meal for myself Sunday. Cook enough and you won't have to cook one night during the week when you're worn out from life.
/r/MGTOW13/11/15 01:41 PM
7

Medical power of attorney can solve a lot of these problems. Friends, relatives, whoever. If I'm so far gone that I'm wandering the streets, I'm not going to care what happens. Frankly, I might take care of business myself if my mind starts to deteriorate.
/r/MGTOW12/11/15 08:17 PM
1

Unfortunately, there are a lot more people who believe this shit than the new world order shit.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 04:39 PM
1

I was raised with the belief that you could disagree with someone without it being personal. It seems like people are increasingly taking every disagreement personally. I like debating shit. I'll take a devil's advocate position for fun. Increasingly, I have to watch when and where I do it. I basically have to shut it down completely professionally.
/r/MGTOW12/11/15 03:33 PM
2

The senior ministers are qualified for their jobs. The junior ministers? Not so much. I voted Liberal because we desperately need to upgrade our infrastructure but the feminist BS pisses me off. The Sikh thing is pretty understandable. Trudeau received a ton of early support in his leadership bid from Sikhs. He's returning the favour. Harjit Sajjan is a badass so I don't care why he got appointed. My concern is people like Maryam Monsef and Bardish Chagger who are completely unqualified.
/r/MGTOW12/11/15 02:18 PM
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You're going to want to, at some point, figure out why your wife did what she did. After you've heard her justifications and excuses, you'll want the real story. When you start looking for that, I encourage you to listen to what some of the people around here have to say. I think you'll find the answers you get here will make a heck of a lot more sense than what most people will tell you. We're here for men like you. All I'll say to you now is this wasn't your fault. You couldn't have prevented …
/r/MGTOW12/11/15 03:58 AM
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Took me a second to realize what you were talking about, but, yes. I don't think we're all that far apart on this. I've always maintained MGTOW will never be more than 1% of the male population, if that. Maybe 1% of 1% of the population is more realistic. Even most guys who get screwed over like our unfortunate OP will reject the truth. I'm not one of these "let's get all guys to go MGTOW to punish women" people. I didn't go my own way out of spite. I just want other men who are interested to fi…
/r/MGTOW12/11/15 03:50 AM
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What's more interesting to me is that she lied to him for the entire marriage up to that point. If she truly didn't want kids she could have aborted the baby and no one would have known. Turns out she did want kids and was willing to go through an elaborate and nonsensical scheme to get one.
/r/MGTOW11/11/15 02:33 PM
1

MGTOW will always be a tiny minority. Most men are too gynocentric to ever take the red pill.
/r/MGTOW11/11/15 03:39 AM
1

Agree completely. The question is how do you reach men who might be questioning blue pill beliefs but have never heard about MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW10/11/15 12:27 AM
1

While I keep my MGTOW beliefs quiet in my personal life, I struggle with how we as a whatever you want to call MGTOW deal with this issue. Sandman, who I don't subscribe to, said when he spoke with Ayam that he views his job as bringing men to MGTOW. Yes, I agree, that inherently risks diluting the message. On the other hand, I know my life is better because of MGTOW. I've heard guys talk about how MGTOW literally saved their lives. Isn't that something we should want to share with those for who…
/r/MGTOW09/11/15 02:45 PM
5

So, what? Were you mid-fap, raged out, and stopped to post this? Lol.
/r/MGTOW09/11/15 03:58 AM
1

Oh, I never said it made sense. Student debt isn't as much of an issue here in Canada as it is in the US but still, there are a lot of rich plumbers and electricians and a lot of struggling BA's. Traditionally, one of the barriers was that blue collar workers and white collar workers didn't socialise much but with tinder etc. that shouldn't be an issue. Degrees still confer status and women like status. It's like those American women who married into European nobility. It didn't matter that the …
/r/MGTOW06/11/15 02:58 PM
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Hypergamy tends to sweep up the "good men" pretty quickly. The number of single, university educated guys with good jobs gets smaller and smaller as you get older. When the women of my generation (millennials) start hearing their biological clocks ticking, there is going to be panic. There aren't a lot of university educated women who would marry a non-university educated man. They'd have to be stupid rich. Even a successful tradesperson wouldn't be high enough status for a lot of these gender s…
/r/MGTOW06/11/15 03:07 AM
6

I tried to think of a witty Bush pun but I have too much of a machinehead.
/r/MGTOW06/11/15 02:40 AM
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The point Vilar makes is not that men are being tricked and manipulated at a micro-level but rather at a macro-level. So, if a woman leads a guy along and gets him to buy her shit and never puts out, sure that's something you can protect yourself against. That's the micro-stuff and, yes, men pull their own shit. The broader manipulation for men to protect and provide for women is more insidious. Most men don't think of this as manipulation. MGTOW is, in part, a rejection of this broader manipula…
/r/MGTOW05/11/15 04:45 PM
2

Justin Trudeau not Kevin.
/r/MGTOW05/11/15 03:35 PM
23

Jesus, sounds like you need a new roommate. It mystifies me why feminists even care about MGTOW or why they think you'd be insulted by it.
/r/MGTOW02/11/15 08:01 PM
4

I've never been happier In my life. That's not hyperbole. I'm in better shape than I've been in years. I've had some good shit happen in my life or more accurately I've made some good shit happen, but MGTOW is part of that too. For the first time in my life, I feel like I'm living for me. It took MGTOW for me to understand that I was allowed to do that.
/r/MGTOW30/10/15 03:13 PM
1

I'm not even that old but at least I remember a time when the sum of human knowledge wasn't available at the touch of a button. I was actually talking about tradcons who think MGTOW is a product of third wave feminism or internet-related isolation. As you say, the truth has been out there a long time. Chinweizu uses a lot of traditional African sayings in his book to show the timelessness of what he's talking about.
/r/MGTOW30/10/15 01:50 PM
5

Lol. I'm trying to remember if I've ever defined my gender chromosomally. Did he have his dick cut off or something?
/r/MGTOW29/10/15 02:25 PM
10

Concern troll is concerned. I'm not sure why I'm trying to defend the straw men you've attacked but here it goes. This sub, for better or worse, has a lot of people who are new to MGTOW and are still in the anger stage. A lot of the woman-bashing stems from that. Yes, technically NAWALT is true but it's irrelevant. I think it's Stardusk who compared it to a bowl of M&M's. If a non-zero percent of the bowl is poison and you can only tell after you eat them, why on earth would you go for any of th…
/r/MGTOW29/10/15 01:35 PM
10

Esther Vilar's broken down car story is such a perfect example of how gynocentrism operates. Guys, remember she wrote that book in the early 70's. Chinweizu wrote the Anatomy of Female Power in 1990. People who view MGTOW as a product of the internet or of Western third wave feminism need to listen to the Argentinian woman and Nigerian poet who had this shit figured out years ago.
/r/MGTOW28/10/15 07:12 PM
2

Just a warning: depending on what you're studying you may have to produce similar BS for your profs. Political correctness is part of life. When you hold politically incorrect views, you sometimes have to fake it.
/r/MGTOW26/10/15 06:22 PM
1

Thanks. Too lazy to link.
/r/MGTOW26/10/15 05:06 PM
7

I think you're missing half the picture. Yes, failed relationships and especially divorce are bad for men but I think what has come to distinguish MGTOW is an opposition to "good" marriages. Is it actually good for a man to spend his life acting as protector and provider for a woman? A lot of happily married men would say yes. We say no. On that point there is no gender symmetry. Men receive precious little from "good" relationships. In terms of the generalisations, I like the metaphor I believe…
/r/MGTOW26/10/15 01:40 PM
3

Alcoholics Anonymous talks about alcohol a lot. It doesn't mean they aren't trying to move on.
/r/MGTOW23/10/15 02:03 PM
2

George Eastman had a pretty good life. Changed the world. Made a ton of money. Gave it away to the charities of his choice. When he got old and sick, he ended it instead of hanging around in pain. Not a bad guy to model yourself after. I use masturbation as a sleep-aid to wind down after a long day. I fall asleep a heck of a lot faster that way. I'm not anti-no fap (I know some people around here really hate it). If it works for you, great. I just don't see myself ever going that way.
/r/MGTOW23/10/15 04:01 AM
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I feel like all of these idiots should read some 19th century fiction. Anna Karenina, Middlemarch or The Red and The Black would dissuade them of this notion of the doting, loyal housewife. Hypergamy isn't a feminist invention.
/r/MGTOW21/10/15 07:25 PM
8

I get that if you work from home and have little to no social life. For me, I don't find I'm missing out on human contact for the relatively few hours in a week that I'm home and awake. Honestly, I'm trying to find more time to just chill by myself.
/r/MGTOW20/10/15 06:35 PM
10

Shit, some of you guys are young. Briefly, it's very hard at your age not to "fall" for a girl. Your hormones are raging. The key, in my view, is to recognize that those feelings are borne primarily out of lust. There's nothing wrong with being in lust with someone. It's human nature. If they share your attraction, you might get laid. Great! Have fun. You're young. The key is to compartmentalise the lust. Yes, you're attracted to her. Yes, you'd fuck her if you could. That doesn't require you to…
/r/MGTOW20/10/15 05:52 PM
11

Pretty much. Feminism has its ideological roots in Marxist theory. So, instead of bourgeoisie and the proletariat, you get the Patriarchy and women. However, Marx could identify his villains: they owned the means of production. Feminism struggles to find patriarchs in the West today. Even conservatives love women like Margaret Thatcher and Condoleeza Rice. As a result, the Patriarchy has become this amorphous concept more akin to the Christian devil than Marx's bourgeoisie.
/r/MGTOW15/10/15 02:51 PM
14

It's not an acronym. Feminists appropriated a term from chemistry to avoid calling non-trans people normal. Yes, it's used as a slur in the "cis, straight man" context but women are "cisgendered" as well if they aren't trans.
/r/MGTOW13/10/15 02:46 PM
3

Hypergamy's a bitch. Hard to date up when you're high up the social ladder. Women being the majority in universities means that some university educated women won't get the university educated man they think they deserve. When you take out gay men (more likely to be university grads) and men like us who aren't in the market, that marriageable pool shrinks fast. Add in that a lot of women get their Mrs with their BA, and the post-university pool of eligible bachelors can seem tiny, especially in …
/r/MGTOW13/10/15 01:40 PM
1

They absolutely have historical value. But that value is still arbitrary. People underestimate the stability of our current system. Japan's debt load is as big as anyone's, their population is shrinking, interest rates there have been at zero forever, and they haven't had a really good economic year since Reagan was in the White House. The Yen is still an accepted global currency. It might not be worth what it once was, but it is still viable.
/r/MGTOW13/10/15 01:05 PM
1

I've never understood the "fiat" currency argument. There's no inherent value to gold and silver. They are just metals. Yes, gold is conductive but really, they aren't even that useful. The idea that the value of gold or silver is any more stable or "real" than a government backed paper currency is absurd to me. The massive fluctuations in the price of gold and silver measured against even other commodities demonstrates their instability. Also, all these goldbugs and silverbugs ignore the fundam…
/r/MGTOW13/10/15 04:54 AM
4

Corruption is inevitable in the American system. I'm talking about the executive actions Hillary would take to advance the feminist agenda at the expense of men. The other dems pay lip service to feminism. She's a true believer.
/r/MGTOW08/10/15 07:38 PM
7

I describe myself as liberal in the classical sense of the word. I'm not a libertarian by any stretch. If I were American, I probably would have voted for Obama (which I know puts me left of most of this sub-reddit). Hillary scares the living shit out of me. If she becomes president, American men will suffer for it. It's comforting that they seem to get that. If she gets the nomination, it will be as close to South Park's Giant Douche v. Turd Sandwich election as we're going to see as the popula…
/r/MGTOW08/10/15 06:31 PM
7

Mods, can we sidebar something on this? The answer is always the same: non-entangling relationships=cool; entangling relationships=not cool.
/r/MGTOW07/10/15 05:12 PM
3

I agree the post is fear-mongering but this is actually a feasible scenario. Jurisdictions bring in common law marriage to extend the legal benefits to unmarried couples. Things like medical decisions and tax breaks. So, a jurisdiction that decides to do this would likely apply it to existing relationships because they would view that as the benevolent thing to do. Divorce doesn't enter into the thinking here. As more and more people eschew marriage (mostly for non-red pill reasons) it wouldn't …
/r/MGTOW07/10/15 01:20 PM
15

It's actually worse if you're rich. Half of nothing is still nothing.
/r/MGTOW03/10/15 01:16 AM
2

Yep. CTE is scary.
/r/MGTOW01/10/15 02:01 PM
1

I can't speak for anyone else, but I was raised with it. I've been following baseball since I was three for example. It's a part of my life. I can't imagine not being a sports fan. No, it isn't the most intellectual or self-improving hobby, but fuck it, I enjoy it. So yeah, I spend probably too much time on it, it's my life. I'll spend it doing things I enjoy. Isn't that the point of MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW30/09/15 07:44 PM
3

It's hard to sustain anything when your population is shrinking. Even shit like roads that isn't a product of the welfare state.
/r/MGTOW30/09/15 07:32 PM
1

I understand that this is a hypothetical but it's a hypothetical from a different planet. In our world, dick is cheap and plentiful. There will always be Gus and Harry and Ian... until she hits 40 at least. To answer your question though, she will either be alone or craft a narrative around Fred where she can feel like she isn't marrying down.
/r/MGTOW29/09/15 06:15 PM
1

I understand your frustration with words losing their meaning. It's getting harder and harder for me to describe myself as liberal as socialists re-define the word. In this case though, I have to push back and I like your astronomy analogy. The way I look at this, MGTOW started with some libertarians who viewed the incursion of the state into personal relationships as destructive. What this libertarian analysis allowed, was a deeper re-examination of the relationships between men and women. The …
/r/MGTOW28/09/15 01:37 PM
1

Thrownaway, can you reconcile the traditionalism of the original manifesto with current MGTOW thinking? Take Bar Bar out of this. If this is someone else writing this, do you have the same problem? Ideas are allowed to evolve aren't they?
/r/MGTOW27/09/15 05:05 AM
1

For mainstream coverage, about as good as we're going to get. The Manifesto and levels of MGTOW aren't exactly current but again it's a blue pill article.
/r/MGTOW25/09/15 08:21 PM
5

I think the idea that MGTOW are checking out of society is an exaggeration or at least an over-generalization. There's certainly an element that seek to self-isolate but I don't think that's the norm. Most men around here are just regular guys. We have friends, we socialize, heck, most of us have sex regularly. MGTOW isn't about rejecting society, or at least not anymore. It's about rejecting the notion that your life is going to magically improve if you decide to share it with a woman. It's abo…
/r/MGTOW24/09/15 08:26 PM
1

You're not wrong. Money is cheap and people are acting accordingly. It's straight out of a first year economics text book, really. But yeah, it's scary how far people have extended themselves.
/r/MGTOW24/09/15 07:14 PM
1

True. I was thinking young Wall St. types but even then, only drug dealers pay cash these days.
/r/MGTOW24/09/15 06:12 PM
1

Luxury vehicles ads are targeted at two groups: young people with more money than sense and old people who wish they were young. Yeah, there are car buffs in that market but you aren't winning them over with advertising.
/r/MGTOW24/09/15 03:27 PM
1

Yep. This is why all the major sports are making a killing on TV rights. It's something that men actually watch and because it's live, it doesn't get PVR'd or downloaded. If it weren't for sports, I'd cut my cable tomorrow.
/r/MGTOW24/09/15 01:34 PM
2

Also, people 50-65 are already brand loyal and generally won't be early adopters. You get an 18 year old using your product, they may use it for years even decades. The only shit targeted at people over 50 are drug and investment ads.
/r/MGTOW24/09/15 01:30 PM
6

Does that make MGTOW's lactose intolerant?
/r/MGTOW24/09/15 01:14 AM
1

As difficult as it is at that age, you need to consider why you have strong feelings for her. I'm assuming you find her sexually attractive, which is great, but what else do you think she offers you? How would your life be better if you two were dating? I think you'll find that once you subtract the sex, the answers become less and less convincing. Having said all that, if you want to fuck her and she wants to fuck you, go for it. MGTOW isn't about eschewing intimacy, it's about not allowing you…
/r/MGTOW23/09/15 09:21 PM
2

You continue to expect her to respect you and your feelings. She clearly doesn't. Stop expecting blood from a turnip.
/r/MGTOW22/09/15 01:55 PM
18

She has no money. She's 30 with not one but two roommates and they are so low on cash that toilet paper was a fight (why else do you have separate tp?). This is not the behaviour of a woman rolling in dough. Either she's broke or absurdly cheap.
/r/MGTOW22/09/15 01:44 PM
7

It's a PUA sub-reddit at this point with all the gynocentrism that entails.
/r/MGTOW21/09/15 03:33 PM
15

OK. So, I get that some guys are chubby chasers. I even get that some guys are into trannies. But please tell me who the fuck wants a "sassy" girlfriend? How is that attractive? Like at least the single moms are filtering for white knights by being up front about it.
/r/MGTOW21/09/15 01:25 PM
3

I think it's a false choice. Nothing is stopping you from being MGTOW and fucking a different girl every night. So, if you doubt your convictions, go get yourself laid. Heck, date a girl for a month. MGTOW rejects entangling relationships not short flings and certainly not sex. The only thing I would say to you is tread with caution. Don't lose your head because a girl gave you head.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 07:52 PM
2

I'd actually like to see more MGTOW lifestyle content. There's a bit of a dearth. Turd Flinging Monkey has some good finance vids talking about building wealth etc. However, I think you may be taking the wrong approach. It doesn't sound like your friend would regurgitate the red pill. I think if your goal is for your friend to find the inner strength to go his own way, you need to give him the basics. He needs to understand where his feelings are coming from. The red pill can seem scary, but the…
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 07:39 PM
5

I always say that this isn't for everyone, or even most people. Personally, I don't crave emotional intimacy like you're describing. I like being alone. I have good friends. I have good relationships with my family. I have a job I don't hate that pays well. I'm probably only home two or three nights a week. I work out. I cook healthy, tasty meals for myself. I feel great. It's a good life. Why should I let someone else fuck with it?
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 01:19 PM
5

This is the sort of shit that convinced me to go MGTOW. Here we have a blameless man and society still says "fuck him". If we can't sympathise with a man in these circumstances, we never can.
/r/MGTOW15/09/15 04:14 PM
5

On a micro-level, sure, we can hold women responsible. You can choose not to bail women out. Refuse to accept the BS excuses, etc. On a macro-level, no, we can't hold women responsible. That's why we're MGTOW. We understand that society will never hold women accountable. We understand that in the eyes of society their parasitism will always be condoned. All we can do to try to stop the free ride, is not comp anyone ourselves. All we have is our power to say no.
/r/MGTOW14/09/15 04:36 AM
7

I hope you get back on your feet, brother. This shit is gynocentrism in its final form. This poor guy doesn't have his own dreams anymore. He only lives vicariously through his family's dreams.
/r/MGTOW10/09/15 01:25 PM
3

Respectfully, I think CS misses the point here. While marriage is not a requirement for modern civilisation, it was a key building block traditionally. In an era of mass communication, it's much easier to establish and promote nationalism and patriotism, but that wasn't always true. The practice of rulers marrying their children strategically was crucial in mollifying potential rivals and ensuring peace within the civilisation. It provided a basis for common cause by amplifying our natural insti…
/r/MGTOW09/09/15 02:55 PM
6

Don't respond. There's no point pissing married guys off. However, it's basically the equivalent of saying "if I'm good, she won't hit me." Or perhaps more accurately, "if I'm good, maybe I'll get laid this month." It simply demonstrates the real power dynamic within marriage.
/r/MGTOW08/09/15 01:14 PM
3

No one here denies that women do impulsive things for love. The manic emotions of love are not even the problem, really. It's the grind, the day to day which inevitably is bad for men. More to the point, an impulsive, crazy woman like this will be hell once this marriage of passion dissolves. She's exactly the type to be vindictive.
/r/MGTOW05/09/15 03:59 AM
14

The black community has unfortunately become the canary in the coal mine. Rampant hypergamy and pervasive single motherhood are the future for everyone.
/r/MGTOW04/09/15 04:18 PM
1

No clue.
/r/MGTOW03/09/15 07:11 PM
39

Why couldn't these kids experiment with drugs and alcohol like normal teenagers?
/r/MGTOW03/09/15 03:54 PM
3

I really don't object to it. I get how you could be "awakened while married" or whatever Stardusk calls it. I get saying, "fuck, this is what I should have done" but not wanting to go through a divorce, especially if there are kids involved.
/r/MGTOW03/09/15 01:53 AM
2

If she has a lawyer, he should too. The danger is if he's in a small town. She can go through, call every divorce lawyer in town and then once she's talked to them, they can't work for him. This woman is abusive and manipulative. He needs a hired gun. They may be overpriced snakes, but I wouldn't enter the snake pit of divorce without one.
/r/MGTOW01/09/15 07:37 PM
5

From what he's said, he wants custody or at least shared custody. If he wants that, he needs a good lawyer and he should call one before his wife does.
/r/MGTOW01/09/15 05:53 PM
2

Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave.
/r/MGTOW01/09/15 02:25 PM
5

Call a lawyer. Now. Not later today. Not tomorrow. Now.
/r/MGTOW01/09/15 12:18 PM
3

Thanks for your service. Do something practical. That's the main thing. The only other advice I have is don't worry about where there are a lot of jobs. McDonald's is always hiring. Find a field where you are an in demand commodity.
/r/MGTOW29/08/15 04:14 AM
1

I know some guys like crazy but it just makes my dick soft.
/r/MGTOW28/08/15 11:37 PM
5

Sounds like you're starting to see the benefits of living for you. Congrats. The trip is a good start but you need to find shit that makes you happy outside of work. You need a project or something that excites you. There's something to that whole work to live not live to work thing.
/r/MGTOW28/08/15 01:02 PM
1

Agreed. Also, I approve of the word slore. We need to make that a thing.
/r/MGTOW28/08/15 12:55 PM
7

Yes. Other straight women. Women have weird ideas about what guys find attractive.
/r/MGTOW27/08/15 04:34 PM
12

Maybe it's residual red pill rage but I take satisfaction in making this situation worse.
/r/MGTOW27/08/15 01:10 PM
1

How does he view his behaviour? Is he just making up for lost time in his view?
/r/MGTOW21/08/15 07:02 PM
3

Distract him? What is he into aside from booze and women? He needs to start living for himself but in order to do that he has to find happiness from something other than a bottle or a vagina. A sober activity he enjoys might break the downwards spiral.
/r/MGTOW21/08/15 06:35 PM
3

Most of the time I genuinely love my city. Then it pulls shit like this. Also, there was that time we elected a crackhead. So, yeah. At least it isn't boring.
/r/MGTOW21/08/15 03:30 AM
8

Raping and pillaging. Hold the raping.
/r/MGTOW19/08/15 02:09 PM
18

I found MGTOW by dumb luck. I don't think I'm smarter than anyone. Just luckier. You were unlucky. Very unlucky. There's no use in bemoaning bad luck. You have the tools now to live your life for you. That's all that matters.
/r/MGTOW17/08/15 06:53 PM
4

You'll never get anywhere campaigning to help deadbeat dads. You might get somewhere saying why the fuck do we still have debtors prison in 2015. They don't work. People don't care about male victims. They do care about government waste.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:09 PM
12

They're pretty close. The world at-large does not care about men. If the MRM is going to succeed at all it will be by sneaking things through with other rationale. Nobody likes weakness in men. It illicits only anger and disgust. Where they miss the mark is on what that means. It doesn't mean that you have to conform to their hyper-masculine caricature to be happy. As long as you find validation from something other than pussy, you can be yourself and be happy.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 06:10 PM
2

I don't bother starting an argument. If it's someone I'm interested in, I avoid the subject or leave it vague. Otherwise, it's "I haven't met the right person" or "do you know anyone?" The latter is particularly effective. My lifestyle is my business.
/r/MGTOW12/08/15 07:54 PM
1

The first time I watched one of Bar Bar's videos, I thought he was crazy. I've been anti-feminist forever and just stumbled across manosphere content for the first time (mostly Karen Straughan). Bar Bar's vid though was new. It was like coming across soft core porn on television as a kid. It felt like forbidden fruit. It took me about 6 months to realize that Bar Bar wasn't at all crazy. That he was one of the sanest guys around.
/r/MGTOW06/08/15 05:22 PM
8

Not really. Golddigging is a minor social faux pas. Look at all the girls on seeking arrangement and other sugar daddy/baby sites. Nobody blinks at girls chasing professional athletes either. The only time women get flak for following their vaginas is if the guy is poor.
/r/MGTOW06/08/15 02:57 PM
7

Yeah, that's what caught my eye. She says she's been with sucker, I mean husband #2 for two years. Holy crap does the no sex outside of marriage traditional BS, lead to weird shit.
/r/MGTOW06/08/15 02:46 PM
2

Women just haven't been the same since the neolithic revolution. It's sad.
/r/MGTOW30/07/15 04:21 PM
2

TRP is that way, buddy. Most MGTOW reject marriage under all circumstances. I do work, cook and keep my house clean. I do that for my benefit. Not some lazy bitch. Oh, I also can fuck more than one pussy.
/r/MGTOW30/07/15 04:20 PM
3

I don't make much of a distinction between traditionalism and feminism. Two sides of a gynocentric coin. Yes, rural women and women from poorer countries are going to be more traditional, but how does that benefit the man? He has to be the sole breadwinner. He has to provide and protect. He becomes a beast of burden for his family's benefit. Traditional family structures were set up for women. Where they still derive benefit from those structures, they remain. Where they are no longer beneficial…
/r/MGTOW30/07/15 01:02 PM
3

I have some issues with this. The point at 7:30 (about African brides acting like Europeans after being there a while) is close to the mark, but it misses the bigger point. Moving to Africa or Asia is not the answer. Listen to Ayam Sirias talk about how men are treated in Indonesia for example. Male-Female relations are not dependent on geography. Edit: Side note: the translation gets the point across but isn't very precise. It was bothering me and my French is horrible.
/r/MGTOW30/07/15 04:18 AM
5

I think the diversity of opinion is our strength. MGTOW don't have to compromise our beliefs for political gains. MRA's can legitimately distance themselves from PUA's who will never be politically palatable. PUA's can sell male promiscuity without worrying about the philosophical implications.
/r/MGTOW30/07/15 12:58 AM
2

The timing seems off. I assumed Truth quit to avoid professional problems. But that's just conjecture. Neo was between jobs for a while, so maybe he shut down for the same reason. The info about the BBC thing came from Niko, didn't it?
/r/MGTOW29/07/15 06:14 PM
3

She's not a good friend. Set aside this sub-reddit. From a blue pill perspective, does a good friend let you pay for them all the time? Does a good friend restrict your sex life to twice a year? I get it. You're a shy person and you feel like you are more social with her. Find a different girlfriend if you must but there's no reason you have to rely on someone else for your social life. I'm not overly social myself, but I'm busy enough. I have two close friends. I see each of them on average onc…
/r/MGTOW29/07/15 01:36 PM
6

What made you happy? What will make you happy? That's what you need to figure out. The world is a dark and shitty place. Yes. The depths of evil are unfathomable. Sure. So what? Why is that your responsibility, your problem? John the Other had a video talking about how we as men need to stop trying to be the hero. We all do this. We see a problem, we try to fix it. If we can't, we think we failed. We need to understand that the world and all its ills are not our responsibility. We are only respo…
/r/MGTOW24/07/15 01:13 PM
2

It's in one of his videos. Might be the one on systema.
/r/MGTOW21/07/15 07:26 PM
7

Spetznaz tells the truth but I don't think he'd ever want you to despair. The dude was in a coma and fought back. He's all about not letting the world get you down. The world is tough for men, but we're up for the challenge. You have nothing holding you back. Embrace your freedom!
/r/MGTOW21/07/15 04:56 PM
2

Hope you're feeling better, brother. Stay safe.
/r/MGTOW20/07/15 06:18 PM
2

Everyone wants to believe that the choices they've made in life are virtuous. It's folly to try to tell someone that they've made wrong decisions unless they have objective proof of their errors - they've hit bottom in some way. The best course of action may have been to try to get him to examine his beliefs instead of getting into a dick measuring contest. What does he gain from marriage? Why does he have to be the beast of burden for his family?
/r/MGTOW14/07/15 01:10 PM
3

I miss Patrice O'Neal.
/r/MGTOW13/07/15 04:47 PM
3

Maybe try sending Lui Marco a message. He is a francophone.
/r/MGTOW10/07/15 06:49 PM
7

This is reason enough to support gay marriage. If you want alimony or child support reform, angry lesbians might be the way we get it.
/r/MGTOW08/07/15 05:19 PM
7

Meh, by all accounts she was good at her job and was fired for disagreeing with the direction the company wants to take. It is interesting that the people leading the charge on this are a lot of so-called misogynists.I really don't think this is white knighting.
/r/MGTOW03/07/15 02:03 PM
7

I'm just going to leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwoV8Dnfyjg
/r/MGTOW25/06/15 12:27 AM
2

I'm bringing it back!
/r/MGTOW25/06/15 12:15 AM
4

Meh, they're useful idiots for the most part. This anti-MGTOW shit is stupid but I have no problem with them existing. If you want to know how to pick up floozies, they're the people to talk to. Lots of men want that. I don't have to agree with them philosophically to understand why they have the appeal that they do. At the end of the day, if a man finds the manosphere because he wants to get laid, that's great. There are a lot more MGTOW coming from other parts of the manosphere including TRP/P…
/r/MGTOW24/06/15 02:23 PM
3

Bar Bar's never been known for his brevity. Why would his blog be any different?
/r/MGTOW24/06/15 02:14 PM
2

Holy crap. I'd never googled schizoid before. Describes me perfectly.
/r/MGTOW23/06/15 02:49 PM
5

Unless I'm misunderstanding the methodology, there are some serious issues when looking at those numbers. 1. Every teen who dies in a car accident is "single" 2. Hypergamy dictates that homeless men will be "single" 3. Gay men until very recently were all in the "single" bucket which would truncate life expectancy greatly during the height of the AIDS crisis 4. Divorced men die "single" None of the traditional reasons for a man to be single apply to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW22/06/15 06:49 PM
9

I don't understand your pearl clutching. What moral decay? Human nature hasn't changed. It's just easier to have consequence free sex. Why you choose to blame the man sleeping with the married woman for this is beyond me. Do you think that if that man stays "honourable" and rebukes her, the next man will? Do you think her husband should be in a marriage with a woman who would cheat on him?
/r/MGTOW19/06/15 03:07 PM
4

Dilma Roussef is a great counter-argument when idiot feminists claim the world would be better with women in charge.
/r/MGTOW16/06/15 02:40 PM
5

Democrats are gynocentric, Republicans are gynocentric, Libertarians are gynocentric, Greens are gynocentric. I'm not saying Clinton won't pull more shit than most but I would never base my vote on someone's gender politics. I don't see a MGTOW getting elected any time soon.
/r/MGTOW16/06/15 02:37 PM
11

I'll indulge you. There's a couple of things at play here. The traditionalist reason for the different treatment and the MGTOW response. First, our society says that the uterus is golden. It tells us that the greatest gift a woman can bestow on a man is sex. In that context, promiscuity, by increasing the supply of sex, lowers that value in the eyes of other men. A man engaging in sex is seen as receiving something not giving anything. Therefore his promiscuity cannot possibly reduce its value a…
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 02:31 AM
2

I am probably not the person to help you but I will ask you to consider two things. If you care so little about your own life why are you sharing your pain with strangers on the internet? You view the world darkly but you place tremendous weight upon its view of you. Why should you determine your self-worth based on the arbitrary standards of a screwed up world?
/r/MGTOW10/06/15 12:47 PM
4

Well if you're calling people ser, you've got to at least wait for Martin to finish the goddamn books. Lol. Seriously though, I refuse to believe that a man of your obvious intelligence is bad at everything. Even if you are, there's lots of stuff I'm objectively terrible at that I love doing. My utility has no correlation to my pleasure.
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 01:34 PM
3

Good to hear that MGTOW is getting out of the anglosphere.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 06:54 PM
2

He used to go by HHK Calgary or something right?
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 05:50 PM
1

It's feminists pretending misandry doesn't exist. It's not convincing enough satire for me to invoke Poe's law.
/r/MGTOW05/06/15 07:01 PM
5

Who is she trying to convince? Herself?
/r/MGTOW05/06/15 01:48 PM
15

Because what they want is part of the reason we aren't interested. Why would I want to date someone who is attracted to me for my paycheque?
/r/MGTOW05/06/15 01:29 PM
2

A job that allows you to live the way you want to.
/r/MGTOW04/06/15 04:25 PM
1

This may sound too TRPish but Machiavelli's The Prince. People over-simplify what Machiavelli was saying. It's not about being manipulative. It's mostly about the difference between what people say they want and what they actually want. He had brilliant insight into human nature.
/r/MGTOW04/06/15 03:21 PM
2

I think the trigger warning thing is all about context. So, if you're watching the news and there's going to be violent images, they warn you because you don't necessarily expect it. If you're watching Game of Thrones, apart from the rating, they don't warn you. If you are triggered by depictions of sexual violence, I am deeply sympathetic to your pain. However, as an adult, I expect you to take steps to avoid that sort of content for your own mental health. It isn't up to me to protect you from…
/r/MensRights03/06/15 03:23 PM
2

Pretty much why I can't watch his videos. Still, the interview is worth a listen. I feel like he needs a second channel where he can just talk like a human being without all the artifice of self-promotion.
/r/MGTOW03/06/15 02:19 PM
3

I recommend listening to his interview with Ayam Sirias. I can't stand his videos most of the time, but listening to that interview gave me a new respect for him. He gets into why he does his videos the way he does. He's solely interested in bringing new men to MGTOW and everything he does is oriented to that goal. He basically acknowledges that he's not providing the depth or nuance of other MGTOW channels. That's not what he sees as his job.
/r/MGTOW03/06/15 02:51 AM
4

It's fascinating to see these sorts of extreme gender imbalances and what they produce. Contrast this with the African-American community where a huge number of men are in jail or dead and the sexual dynamics there.
/r/MGTOW02/06/15 03:44 PM
1

It's always cheaper to live with a flatmate in terms of pure housing costs. I get that. You have to ask what it's costing you in mental health to stay with a woman who doesn't respect you let alone love you.
/r/MGTOW02/06/15 03:25 PM
1

If you don't want to or can't kick her out, I hope you dump her the minute the lease ends. You don't need her level of manipulation in your life. I think you need to figure out how much you're spending on that pussy. My guess is it would pay for a lot of sex - either from prostitutes or other women attracted to money. I doubt you're getting a discount in this LTR.
/r/MGTOW02/06/15 12:45 PM
1

This actually makes some sense within the scheme of the GST. For instance, adult diapers aren't taxed either if I recall correctly. However, children's diapers are taxed and that might be the more accurate comparison. I really can't get worked up over this. It doesn't even make a top 10 list of Harper's stupid moves.
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 01:29 PM
4

I'd do it for the lulz. I'd probably tick a lot of her arbitrary boxes and I'm in Hogtown. The only thing is i think spending $250 on a dating service would induce vomiting.
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 05:08 PM
6

I'm trying to decide what the saddest part of this story is. Is it that he hasn't dumped her yet? Is it that after everything she did, he's the one making romantic overtures? Or is that even if he does break up with her, he'll end up with another woman who will pull slightly less crazy shit, and he'll marry her in a heartbeat?
/r/MGTOW27/05/15 12:58 PM
2

Any way to figure out what the kid wants? The only reason to my mind (and to yours from what you've said) to do it is to help him but if he's going to see hanging out with you as something his mothers are imposing on him, there's no point. Any way to gauge?
/r/MGTOW24/05/15 12:25 AM
3

I would say generally it's not a new idea. I take issue with the word intent. MGTOW don't say women are evil. We say that what women view as in their self-interest is not in men's self-interest. They don't wake up at 30 and go "I need to find a chump to leach off of" they wake up at 30 and say "I want a baby." The leaching is just the means and is normally not even considered much less intended. Both. As is men's behaviour. We can not remove ourselves from our biology nor can we remove ourselves…
/r/MGTOW22/05/15 07:46 PM
10

You're healthy, happy and not hurting anyone? I fail to see a problem here. There will always be pressure to conform to social norms. You have to judge whether or not conformity is in your self-interest. It sounds to me like you've made the correct judgement.
/r/MGTOW22/05/15 07:20 PM
5

I know how hard it is as a Jew to come around on this issue. Especially if you aren't religious and weren't raised by religious parents. It's hard to accept that your parents did something so barbaric to you because of tradition alone. I would tell you to not push him too hard on the issue. Let him do his own research. He's got to come to grips with it.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 01:41 PM
3

I'm not convinced that there's a big enough group on reddit to split off further. Also, having cooler heads around to remind them that anger is a phase and not the goal is important. I don't know how that happens if all the cooler heads are in a different sub-reddit. I liken MGTOW to AA. You're always going to have people still trying to shake their pussy addiction and people who have been clean for a while sharing their stories.
/r/MGTOW19/05/15 02:41 PM
1

It's a relic of an older form of MGTOW that was rooted in libertarian economic theory. I agree it no longer describes the community.
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 04:56 PM
8

I think you want balance. You're tired of being a peacock, flashing your feathers. That's good. It doesn't mean you give up on life. MGTOW isn't about resignation, it's about empowerment. You should eat right and exercise not because it will get you laid but because it's the best thing for you. It's possible you could do less and still be healthy and happy and if that's the case, try to find that level. Playing video games is an excellent way to relieve stress. Playing WoW until 4am is bad but p…
/r/MGTOW15/05/15 02:13 PM
2

Abortion isn't an issue that can be changed legislatively in many countries where it is legal. In both the US and Canada the current abortion laws are from the Supreme Court determining the law that prohibited abortion was unconstitutional. It would require a constitutional amendment to change the law.
/r/MensRights14/05/15 02:06 PM
3

"But my heart tells me she'll pay it back!" Lol. Don't US banks give out student loans like candy normally? How bad would her credit have to be for a bank to require him to co-sign?
/r/MGTOW14/05/15 01:33 PM
3

It never ceases to amaze me what men will do for pussy. If you are going to co-sign a loan, you have to assume you're going to be on the hook for it. I mean you're basically saying to the bank, who is in the business of determining credit worthiness, that you know more than they do. Now, if it's for a small business that could be true, but a student loan? Good God.
/r/MGTOW14/05/15 01:27 PM
1

Clarey can look appealing to new MGTOW's but yeah his pussy worshiping bs gets old quick. Not to mention the creepy pics or it didn't happen shit he pulled on Bar Bar.
/r/MGTOW11/05/15 04:14 PM
2

The world is a shitty place but it's actually the best it has ever been in a lot of tangible ways. Life expectancy and standard of living is up worldwide. We've even made huge strides against AIDS in Africa. Information is readily and freely available and fits in your pocket. Humans are deeply flawed animals. So what? Take pleasure in the good things in life. It's important to understand how gender relations actually work so that it doesn't hit you like a freight train later. But understand, if …
/r/MensRights11/05/15 03:44 PM
1

I really don't mind Mat leave as much as I probably should. Having a woman who is still breast feeding return to work just seems silly. Like how productive do you think these women are immediately after giving birth? The system we have in Canada seems to work. Yes, I pay for it in taxes, but compared to the rest of the stuff parents get, it's not a huge deal. Then again I had the female CFO at my old company complain to me about the number of people on mat leave so maybe I'm underestimating the …
/r/MGTOW11/05/15 03:09 PM
4

He should have gotten the parents to sign a waiver. I get that the kids were never in danger and the marks weren't permanent but I can imagine my mother's reaction if I had come home with a burn mark. It's an awesome lesson plan and if he had waivers, he would have been golden.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 06:02 PM
9

The best MGTOW book ever written and it was written by a woman in 1971. It's insane but it's true.
/r/MGTOW07/05/15 08:57 PM
4

Ouch. Guess you won't make that mistake again. Good luck brother.
/r/MGTOW06/05/15 03:57 PM
6

This whole thing is Electral as all get out. I guess if you're into being called "Daddy" in bed it's good for you. Personally, I just find it creepy.
/r/MGTOW06/05/15 03:52 PM
2

Yeah, that seems less likely. Two possibilities. In jurisdictions where common law marriage exists, a boyfriend becomes a husband pretty quickly and child support could be sought. Alternatively, if you had agreed to pay the kid's tuition or whatever and then you broke up with the mother, I could see a judge saying "you were acting like a father, pay up".
/r/MensRights05/05/15 06:12 PM
1

Don't know if it's the same in the us but here's the government site in Canada explaining that. If you "stand in place of a parent" ie act like a father to your wife's kid you are on the hook for child support and that includes tuition help. http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/fl-lf/famil/cons/consdoc/obligat.html
/r/MensRights05/05/15 05:57 PM
9

How many of those benefits could be enjoyed by just having a roommate to split your bills with?
/r/MGTOW04/05/15 07:51 PM
1

Like two brothers who went different ways in life. MRA's and MGTOW start in similar places but view the problems and solutions differently. It's focused my goals on what's important to me. Anonymity. Big positive but also a negative. Fuck no. 5.Through anti-feminism. First time I listened to Bar Bar, I thought he was nuts. Took some time to see the light. 6.No. People aren't ready for the truth.
/r/MGTOW30/04/15 06:55 PM
21

There's an egotism that has infected the society generally, both men and women. I think it gets hidden in men more because of our instincts/conditioning to protect and provide. So, you see it more clearly in women than you do in men. It's not even necessarily a bad thing. In many Western countries, the collective identity has weakened - a product of a lot of things including greater personal security. You can read a whole bunch of books about this change. It means we're generally less willing to…
/r/MGTOW22/04/15 03:28 AM
1

The point isn't about staying in a relationship or even about benefits. The point is who chooses? Briffault says women choose in male female relationships. Gay couples weren't on his radar back then.
/r/MGTOW16/04/15 03:01 PM
3

Only if you ignore what Briffault was talking about. Briffault was examining the power of women in preindustrial, non-European societies. He was trying to make a state of nature argument. This would include Amish women. If Ezekiel has 100 acres and Jedediah has 200 acres who do you think an Amish girl chooses?
/r/MGTOW16/04/15 02:58 PM
0

The point I'm making isn't about the divorce. The divorce was the best thing that ever happened to this guy. It was the marriage that was hell. Don't mistake divorce rates for happy marriages or that women are somehow different in different countries. Gender relations are what they are. The country is almost irrelevant.
/r/MGTOW16/04/15 11:49 AM
4

If you get nothing else from MGTOW, understand that your value as a human being is not derived from your relationships with women. If you can internalise that, you'll be better off even if you decide MGTOW isn't for you.
/r/MGTOW15/04/15 05:49 PM
7

Go read the cost decision. She accused him of every crime in the book. She took out a mortgage to help her lover's business. Her own daughter called her evil. Can we just auto-post this the next time someone tries to argue that women from country x aren't like that?
/r/MGTOW13/04/15 05:41 PM
14

How many men need to die before we end debtor's prison for child support payments?
/r/MensRights09/04/15 02:22 PM
10

Got to love how quickly the whole "men should be more open and honest with their feelings" thing disappears when they don't like the feelings. Suddenly it's all "fee-fees" and "manfeels".
/r/MGTOW08/04/15 02:09 PM
12

Notice that she excises the description of the "sexual assault", just calling it " graphic". This allows the reader to imagine the worst (rape) when it may have been far less serious. This makes the guy's what did you expect reaction seem a lot more insensitive than it would be in full context. For the guy, hopefully he learned that being an emotional tampon for a girl is in no way good for him.
/r/MGTOW08/04/15 01:42 PM
3

AVFM is embarrassing. Who cooks chicken breasts from frozen? Defrost that shit first.
/r/MGTOW26/03/15 03:57 PM
2

The other comments are right. Just channel your blue pill self and pretend you haven't met the one. The only thing I'd add is that if you show an interest in their family, they'll think you're like them. The blue pill assumption is that every straight guy wants a wife and kids. If you don't do anything to dissuade them, they'll assume you do too.
/r/MGTOW24/03/15 06:40 PM
86

TRP encourages men to get laid more and tells men not to do things which get in the way of getting laid. So, if you're at home playing video games, you aren't meeting potential partners. If you're masturbating to porn, your desire to go out and get laid is diminished because you're substituting masturbation for sex. MGTOW doesn't care about getting laid and therefore cares a lot less about what you do with your time. If porn or video games or anything else becomes addictive, you need to deal wit…
/r/MGTOW21/03/15 02:05 AM
27

"You're just mad because you can't get chaired." "You hate chairs" "Not all chairs are like that" Lol
/r/MGTOW12/03/15 01:08 PM
6

Great read. I would agree that men have to find new motivations. I think the answer that makes the most sense to me is work so you don't have to. Either adopt the minimalist idea of working only enough to cover your basic needs or target a retirement date, figure out how much you need to make that happen and work towards that.
/r/MGTOW11/03/15 03:00 PM
1

My apologies. I may have to reset my troll detector.
/r/MensRights10/03/15 03:33 AM
3

I take this as a poor attempt at trolling but even trolls can be educated. The term misandry dates from the 19th century. Whether or not a given dictionary recognises the word is irrelevant. It doesn't invalidate the lived experience of half the human population.
/r/MensRights09/03/15 08:08 PM
2

Spetsnaz on YouTube would be my top pick for someone new. He's the best balance of depth and accessibility to my mind. If you want to actually read something, there's a pdf of Esther Vilar's The Manipulated Man floating around. The intro to that sets the stage really well.
/r/MGTOW05/03/15 03:29 PM
1

These kinds of stories are absolutely sickening. I'll loosely translate a sentence at the end for our non-French speaking brothers. "Not a single centimetre of skin was spared (from abuse), not even his private parts"
/r/MGTOW04/03/15 02:13 PM
6

You're 18. Don't think about having kids for at least ten years. Focus on your education, your career, your hobbies. When you figure all of that out, maybe you can start looking at options, but honestly, your options suck. I don't know where you're from, but in most English speaking countries there is nothing a man can do to prevent a woman from taking his children if the relationship breaks down. Single parent households are bad for kids and there simply is no way to know at the outset whether …
/r/MGTOW03/03/15 04:02 PM
1

I don't have a problem with married MRA's. Just don't preach traditionalism. What is the traditional response to male victims of domestic violence? Even if we ignore the public shaming that Karen Straughan has talked about. Will traditionalists support a teenage boy's right to opt out of paternity? Or an infant boy's right to genital integrity? Traditional conservative views may align on some men's issues. On most others they are either indifferent or downright hostile.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 06:37 PM
1

Why do we limit ourselves to traditionalist and feminist conceptions of masculinity which are both terrible? A man can choose the indentured servitude of traditional masculinity if he so chooses, he only sacrifices the right to call himself a free man.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 06:02 PM
1

Traditionalism is horrible for men. It's good for women like Janet. Of course she's going to defend it. RBK spent too much time on her case, but his point is valid. Someone who wants to define masculinity by a man's utility to women is not looking out for the best interest of men.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 04:12 PM
19

A man would have to sue under the charter for discrimination. Even then, it would likely fail. I don't see Chief Justice McLaughlin being overly sympathetic, certainly not Justice Abella. Even if it did succeed, the government could invoke the notwithstanding clause and ignore the decision.
/r/MensRights25/02/15 05:50 PM
3

So, she's arguing that she was the custodial parent when the child was living with John? Seems pretty weak to me.
/r/MensRights24/02/15 04:34 PM
1

No. No they're not. You can have strong corporations in a weak state, you can have weak corporations in a strong state. The American experience is by no means universal.
/r/MGTOW24/02/15 03:30 PM
9

I identify as a liberal, in the 18th or 19th century conception of the term (not so much the social democracy/socialist "liberalism" of the second half of the 20th century). I absolutely believe that government has a role to play where the profit incentive of the free market is inconsistent with the public good. I still identify as a man going his own way. While I understand where the libertarian streak of MGTOW comes from, I take a lot of the more conspiratorial libertarian stuff with a huge gr…
/r/MGTOW24/02/15 02:25 AM
2

Spetsnaz is awesome. My top pick for any purple puller/MRA. A good balance between the shallowness of Sandman and the philosophical dissertations of Bar Bar and Stardusk.
/r/MGTOW23/02/15 08:59 PM
12

Stardusk's ego is getting in his way. I agree with him that MGTOW has to be more than what Sandman offers but he misses the point. Sandman is not pretending to be some deep thinker. He's just trying to get people engaged. And yeah, he'd like to get paid for his time.Teachers get paid. He's a teacher. Stardusk is intent on providing a positive definition of MGTOW, which is great. It's important to be "for" something not just against something. However, a movement/philosophy that is positively def…
/r/MGTOW23/02/15 08:51 PM
2

Justice isn't blind but it apparently does have a statute of limitations.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 08:57 PM
10

The question you have to ask yourself is whether your decisions today will limit your freedom in the future. Wanting to live minimally is great and it seems consistent with your short term goals maybe even medium term. However, you need to be as sure as you can be that you aren't screwing yourself over later in life. Making small sacrifices of freedom today can provide a lot more freedom tomorrow.
/r/MGTOW19/02/15 08:42 PM
2

Stardusk is like a teacher or boss with really high standards. He may piss you off sometimes but at the end of the day you know he's right. Completely random, but am I the only one who found his choice of art strange? Why show Socrates killing himself?
/r/MGTOW18/02/15 02:19 PM
2

You have no social proof in this context. You have two options as I see it. Demonstrate to them beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're good at your job and earn their respect that way or try to buddy up to them. If that means you have to do them a favour first, so be it. You're the new guy, show some deference even if it isn't deserved.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 08:50 PM
9

Generally speaking there's been a massive growth in the number of spots in universities and colleges. Male enrolment is actually up in terms of raw numbers and I believe as a percentage of the male population. Female enrolment has grown much more quickly and has led to the current imbalance. Part of this is how schools have grown. General arts programs which require little more than a lecture hall are very easy to expand. Science programs are much more expensive because of the equipment involved…
/r/MensRights17/02/15 05:56 PM
20

Why do I have to pick again?
/r/MGTOW15/02/15 10:49 PM
10

Yeah, my best guess is it's a corporate account. Building a company of that size is impressive, but cash on hand is a shit way to judge the value of a company.
/r/MGTOW13/02/15 08:28 PM
12

I'm tempted to call BS. Who leaves 12.5 million in a chequing account?
/r/MGTOW13/02/15 07:47 PM
1

I don't consider it moot. I'm being punished for being single. I take no comfort in the fact that there's a crone out there suffering the same fate.
/r/MGTOW13/02/15 07:41 PM
3

There are bachelor taxes. We don't call them bachelor taxes but they still exist. There are a host of tax breaks available to married couples and a whole lot more available if you have kids. So no, we don't call it a bachelor tax, we're more subtle. We describe them as tax credits, deductions or exemptions. However, the principle is the same. Married people pay less, bachelors pay more. In Canada, there are even provisions to allow a single mother (well, parent to be fair but we know who's using…
/r/MGTOW13/02/15 01:26 AM
3

The hardest thing for me about being MGTOW is knowing I will never be a father. I still think this is a bad idea. Two parent households just have far better outcomes for kids. The studies say that's even true for same-sex couples. It's not even about modeling gender. It's about having two people available to spend time with the child and raise it. A single parent will never be able to replicate that.
/r/MGTOW12/02/15 02:28 PM
6

If it is any worse in places like Toronto, where I am, it's because life here is pretty damn good. If you look at the rise of feminism as corresponding with massive increases in personal safety, it's not surprising that a super-safe, prosperous city would have a lot of feminist or otherwise entitled women. Women don't "need" men when times are good and times haven't been anything but good in Toronto for a very long time. The other part of it in Toronto and other big cities in Canada is how multi…
/r/MGTOW09/02/15 03:39 AM
7

Take off the tin foil hat buddy. It's not a conspiracy. Just human nature reflected in a new technological landscape. Go back 150 or 200 years and think about how hard it was to keep a home. Now think about how much easier it's become. Women used to be busy staying at home. By the middle of the 20th century, that was no longer true. A lot second-wave feminism comes from women just being plain bored. Combine that with the advent of reliable birth control and boom, modern feminism. You have to rem…
/r/MGTOW07/02/15 04:29 AM
1

Most men crave the lash. We can't change that.
/r/MensRights07/02/15 01:37 AM
1

I'm coming around on this. Lol.
/r/MGTOW06/02/15 02:27 AM
6

There's one problem with your plan: spending money to be in the same room as that movie. I understand you're there for the wildlife but it requires a lot of focus to zone out a movie in a theatre.
/r/MGTOW05/02/15 08:03 PM
7

Traditional gender roles are as anathema to me as feminism. I'm MGTOW because I have no interest in being a protector/provider.
/r/MGTOW28/01/15 05:17 PM
0

I've been scrolling through it. It seems like a good read. Very much in line with Esther Vilar's The Manipulated Man. It's good to remember that MGTOW ideas are older than the internet. This book is from 1990. Vilar wrote hers in the 70's. Can we follow Chinweizu's lead and start calling broken, married guys nest-slaves instead of beta males? I think it has a nice ring to it.
/r/MGTOW27/01/15 09:40 PM
5

The number of stories about women naming non-fathers as fathers boggles even my red pill mind sometimes. You need a lawyer, possibly a tax accountant and probably someone to help you either consolidate your debts or file for bankruptcy. I"m sorry you're in this mess. If you think your ex is likely to try to rope you into paying child support for this kid, don't claim him as a dependent. You're probably on the hook anyway (especially if you helped raise him) but why put the final nail in the coff…
/r/MGTOW27/01/15 07:17 PM
1

I like the idea of bar bar abridged/remixed. It's kind of fun. Also, might be more accessible to the uninitiated.
/r/MGTOW27/01/15 04:04 PM
1

Because people are slaves to history. I didn't say I agreed with the decision. I just don't see the majority ever waking up.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 03:36 PM
2

Why would anyone want to align themselves with a movement that acts this absurdly? Okay, you want to change the funding ratio for male victims of domestic violence. Cool. Noble goal. You think campaigns like the White Ribbon campaign contribute to the misandric status quo? You're probably right. Now explain to me how taking a barely surviving football team to the Human Rights Tribunal is the best way to change things. Listen, I thought it was hilarious when AVFM (for all their flaws) registered …
/r/MGTOW27/01/15 03:27 PM
8

The white knights of the white ribbon campaign are horrible but dear god is this stupid. I mean I get why the MRM relies on troll tactics a lot - it's the only way to get noticed - but why sue the Argos? Take the white ribbon campaign to the human rights tribunal for hate speech if you want to do a stunt. What the heck do the Argos have to do with it?
/r/MGTOW27/01/15 03:01 PM
2

Men who want to have a family will pursue marriage. Men who want to have unprotected sex will not. These are not contradictory ideas.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 04:46 AM
1

As long as people want to procreate, marriage will persist. Men, as a collective, will never abstain from marriage. The number of MGTOW/anti-marriage MRA's will grow, but you'll never end marriage.
/r/MensRights26/01/15 07:20 PM
1

Tl;Dr verbally abusive wife realizes she's being "unfair" to abused husband.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 06:20 PM
4

I love how they don't care about taking out things like "God keep our land" from the English version or the even more anachronistic "il sait porter la croix" (he knows how to carry the cross) from the French version. Referring to the overwhelming majority of the armed services in Canadian history as "sons"? Terrible. Explicitly declaring Canada a Christian nation? Just fine.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 04:06 AM
2

Pretty much. I prefer to call it the Flying Spaghetti Monster as it seems to piss off feminists more (apologies to Pastafarians).
/r/MensRights13/01/15 04:08 AM
6

Nothing more patriarchal than the relationship between straight women and gay guys. bashes head against desk to relieve pain Are there dividends or something for straight men to collect for sustaining this all-powerful Patriarchy? It seems like a bad deal.
/r/MGTOW12/01/15 09:37 PM
2

You're ignoring some factors here. Theoretically, there should be more gender parity in the labor force with each generation. That means that if you strip out the ageing population (which impacts both genders) and fluctuations in the labour market, the gender gap in the participation rate should be narrowing. Instead, it's grown since the bottom of the recession in 2009.
/r/MGTOW09/01/15 10:48 PM
4

If one guy reads that and has an instinctual MGTOW reaction, then we win. Let the tradcons fret over the loss of "good" men. They only prove our point for us. A diamond in a pile of shit is still a diamond.
/r/MGTOW09/01/15 02:12 AM
1

God bless feminist statistics. Okay. So this relies on two studies: 1. Study compared participation rates in an artificial competition with and without gender quotas. They found that the quotas led to women competing more often. The extrapolation made is that gender quotas help overcome women's natural aversion to competition and thus produce a better field. However, there was no discussion as to the impact this had on the "winning scores" of this competition. 2. The second study tries to answer…
/r/MensRights08/01/15 05:21 PM
3

There's nothing weak or insecure about responding to criticism. It's how you improve and become stronger. It is the person who believes themselves above criticism who is truly insecure. MGTOW don't hate women,. We just don't worship them.
/r/MGTOW06/01/15 05:55 PM
2

And Dal gets sued in 10... 9... 8. Seriously, they better have strong evidence against every student they suspended. Being in a room where people are being assholes is not a punishable offense. Unless every single student made offensive comments, they're going to have problems.
/r/MensRights05/01/15 05:52 PM
2

You don't run dread game on your children.
/r/MensRights05/01/15 05:43 PM
7

20k gets you a parking spot in my town. Lol. I don't work less than my coworkers now. I will however retire earlier due to being dependant-free.
/r/MGTOW02/01/15 08:35 PM
10

$16 mil and that's with a prenup. Marriage: not even once.
/r/MGTOW02/01/15 03:33 PM
13

There's no excuse for not learning to cook. It saves you money and it makes you healthier. Even if you just start with a few basic dishes, you'll be better off. Remember: the world's best chefs are and have always been men.
/r/MGTOW02/01/15 03:28 PM
5

Interesting interpretation but I think you're missing the point. This chapter is about God helping to conquer Babylon. Babylon was famous for its strong walls. When armies attacked, the Babylonians wouldn't meet them in the open but would just fire arrows from their walls. This passage disparages that strategy as cowardly and blames the fighting men for the inevitable slaughter outside their walls where some of the people would be trapped.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/14 08:43 PM
5

Exactly. Most western countries give you all sorts of tax breaks for being married even more if you have kids. It's taxing bachelors in everything but name. In Canada, a single mom can claim her kid as being equivalent to a stay at home spouse and get the benefits of marriage without being married.
/r/MGTOW23/12/14 02:25 PM
3

Your link is busted. One of our brothers at /r/theredpill has working caches:http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2popc8/breitbart_pulls_sexodus_articles/
/r/MGTOW18/12/14 04:59 PM
2

There are very few work environments where day 1 alpha is a good idea. Sales is the exception to the rule basically. Think about a hot shot rookie qb coming into the NFL. He's got to carry the pads etc. Nobody is going to respect a 22 year old kid with zero experience acting like he owns the place.There's a difference between being humble and being weak. As the new guy, you need to ensure the people around you like you. You can't next your colleagues. The rest of the organisation will take their…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/14 07:04 PM
4

A blue pill mask is a requirement for success in big business these days. You need to know when to put it on and when to take it off - don't be a push over, for example - but you do need one, especially when dealing with female co-workers. You don't want to be perceived as threatening in a work environment. Unfortunately, as the new guy you are always threatening. Being the only male on the team exacerbates that. You need to ingratiate yourself if for no other reason than to make sure you get a …
/r/TheRedPill16/12/14 02:18 AM
2

The first wave of automation was in manufacturing and it hit men hard. The second wave we're in now and is devastating retail (Amazon etc). The third wave is going to be in data entry as more and more processes automate. Women may be impacted but no more than they were when they closed the steno pool. People will do other things.
/r/MGTOW15/12/14 05:14 PM
3

We need to stop trying to ideologically limit our thinking on gender. The great failure of feminism is that it became trapped in its Marxist dialectical structure even as all evidence for the patriarchy waned. If the men's movement becomes equally restricted by its atheist/libertarian roots, it will quickly lose its salience. Men's rights must be more than a criticism of feminism. Traditional gender roles are equally dangerous. Should we eschew all traditional rhetoric as well? I'm much less int…
/r/MensRights15/12/14 03:25 PM
2

MGTOW =/= celibate. Most MGTOW date.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 11:01 PM
3

You sound like a MGTOW to me, brother.
/r/MGTOW06/12/14 11:13 PM
1

Agreed. The divorce rate or the chance of you getting divorced is a small part of the equation. The question you should be asking yourself is are the benefits of cohabitation/marriage worth the non-zero risk of divorce? Personally, I don't think the rewards are worth the risk at any level inferrable from contemporary data.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 07:48 PM
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Beware the tradcon in MGTOW clothing.
/r/MGTOW04/12/14 11:56 PM
1

There are two different questions here and I think your conflating them. This sub-reddit is dedicated to improving the general social condition of men. True gender equality is an admirable goal and perhaps the best way to achieve that social outcome. However, that will take decades. So, what is someone like the OP who has been traumatized by the gynarchy of the present day to do? He could hope for a miracle and continue to search for a woman that will not exacerbate this trauma. That won't exerc…
/r/MensRights04/12/14 05:57 PM
3

I echo the calls for professional help. However, don't fear being alone. Even healthy /r/MGTOW might be for you. Stay strong, brother.
/r/MensRights03/12/14 09:09 PM
5

I love the part at the end acknowledging that they're recommending a modification to people's bodies without their consent. It reads like that isn't a major ethical problem. The HIV argument is absurd. It basically says that they are assuming men can't practice safe sex. I wouldn't fuck an HIV positive woman bareback just because I'm circumcised. I doubt the CDC would recommend that course of action either. I'm all for consensual circumcision for religious reasons but to borrow a phrase, my body…
/r/MGTOW03/12/14 02:36 PM
2

It sounds like you're afraid at some level of becoming the man you could be. If you can identify what you're afraid of, you can take steps to overcome it
/r/TheRedPill01/12/14 09:11 PM
1

I don't. Not sure what you're even referring to.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/14 07:23 PM
2

You conflate side effects with desired outcomes. TRP is about awareness and self-improvement as much as it is about seduction. The anger comes from seeing men destroyed by following a false vision of love. It isn't about free will. It's about being lied to by a society that views men as either disposable or dangerous or both.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/14 05:33 PM
6

Same reason Hitler went into Poland: no one complained when he annexed Czechoslovakia.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/14 08:37 PM
7

You are responding to the need for validation from others which is completely natural. What I would suggest to you is that you need to find ways of replacing that external validation with internal validation. A good way to start that is by setting achievable goals and achieving them. Maybe those goals are fitness related, maybe career related, whatever. If it's something within your control to do, and it will make you think more of yourself, that's what you need to set out to do. By achieving go…
/r/MGTOW24/11/14 04:46 PM
3

Sandman is a valuable asset to the MGTOW community but by no means it's most eloquent proponent. I think even he'd concede that. Go watch Barbarosaa or Stardusk for a bit. I think you'll get a more complete picture. Reading Esther Vilar's The Manipulated Man would be an excellent place to go as well. She's not MGTOW per se but a lot of what MGTOW argue today, she was arguing forty years ago. To your points: 1.MGTOW is not about control any more than the abolitionist movement was about control. M…
/r/MGTOW21/11/14 07:07 AM
13

If her blowjobs are boner killingly bad, why do you even want another one? Just fuck her.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/14 08:58 PM
1

Be angry with injustice. Nothing wrong with that. In fact it means you have your head on straight. What differentiates MGTOW from the MRA is that we use that anger to improve ourselves and our lives. You are free from the shackles that bind most men. Embrace that freedom. You'll be too happy to let the anger destroy you.
/r/MGTOW20/11/14 04:50 PM
2

Starting a business and failing will have less of a financial and emotional consequence than divorce. You can't even discharge child support payments in bankruptcy. We all choose what risks we take in life. I agree that some of the rhetoric on marriage from people in the MGTOW/marriage strike community can be over the top. However, for the average man if he starts a business, he understands that it may very well fail and have a negative impact on his career and his life. The average man doesn't …
/r/TheRedPill18/11/14 02:37 AM
1

Intelligent people do crazy things when they get angry. Some divorces are amicable, absolutely. Some divorces end up in the man's favour. The majority do not. You can walk away from a motorcycle crash under the right circumstances as well. If riding motorcycles or getting married is important to you, do it. It's your life after all. Just know what the risks are and be comfortable with the worst case scenario. Most importantly, don't pretend that you can somehow immunize yourself by marrying your…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/14 01:00 AM
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Can we get a bot to post this every time someone claims that girls from country x are different?
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 06:41 PM
5

I used to work with a guy who used to comment on what other guys were wearing. It was fucking weird, particularly because he was straight. Guys don't give a shit about clothes unless it makes a woman look sexier or they think dressing a certain way will get them laid.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 05:02 PM
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Getting married is like riding a motorcycle. It's high risk behaviour. Yes, you can take steps to mitigate the risk (the op has done a nice job here). However, you can't eliminate the risk entirely. If you ride a motorcycle you have to be comfortable with the idea that some idiot could sideswipe you. If you get married, you have to be comfortable with the idea of divorce. The only way to guarantee that you won't get divorced is not to marry.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 03:45 PM
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To be clear, I understand what it reveals. What I don't get is what the intention of the short is. From the filmmakers point of view, are we supposed to be repulsed by the beta accepting her terms? Are we supposed to be happy that these two adults found a way to have an open relationship? What's the message he's trying to convey?
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 04:15 AM
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If I have this straight, you believe that there should be some sort of equality in relationships. You further believe that this equality is manifested by making each other feel special. So, by equality I'm guessing you mean some sort of reciprocity of emotional validation. Now, we get to the crux of the matter. You believe that for men mere words are enough to provide such emotional validation while women for some undefined reason, require a monetary or physical demonstration of affection. Why d…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 03:31 AM
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It's not like this is new. Guys have been letting their need for sex/male-mother need run their lives for thousands of years. I think the most telling comment is from the girl who said that her ex didn't even like sex that much but still liked it more than he liked himself. Think about that. What she's saying is that he could only validate his self-worth through sex. Think about how many men in your life live this way. Sex is fun. Sex is not life.
/r/MGTOW16/11/14 06:35 PM
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Yeah, /r/Mensrights want to be more mainstream. They don't have time for the natural, justified anger that comes with getting your head around the realities of modern gender dynamics. No one here will ever tell you not to be angry. Having said that, the anger has to serve you not the other way around. Let it be a motivation to maximize your own potential. MGTOW, and from your comments you seem to fit that description, are free men and free men can do amazing things.
/r/MGTOW16/11/14 05:41 PM
1

Much more useful after you have an offer and you're negotiating salary. At that point, you know you're their first choice and you can leverage that by being clear that you don't need the job. It's like any other negotiation, you have to be willing to walk away to have any power.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/14 08:11 PM
2

You won't get a job because you're qualified. You'll get a job because you either know someone or you blow them out of the water on an interview. Most jobs there will be hundreds of qualified applicants. You have to stand out.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/14 05:57 PM
1

/r/pussypass or /r/mensrights might be a better venue for this.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/14 07:18 PM
2

I'm still not clear on what he was going to do with 99 iPhones. Like, he was going to have to sell 97 of the things anyway, right? I would say that this might slow the hideous "proposal as public spectacle" trend, but we all know women love public validation too much for that to happen.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 07:20 PM
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Eugenics is not something we talk about doing to people. At least not post-Hitler. Also, even if you could/found an ethical way to selectively breed humanity, it would take generations upon generations.
/r/MGTOW11/11/14 07:07 PM
5

Congrats on the ban but you forgot the first rule of TRP.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/14 02:02 AM
6

They feel that all men are evil rapists. Now, the hamster goes to work. Notice how they increasingly find a way to blame some segment of the manosphere while they're at it?
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 06:14 PM
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So, I did a quick google for bacterial vaginosis and the CDC says flat out that having a lot of new partners increases your risk. So the doctor wasn't shaming her so much as telling her how to mitigate her risk. Not that the hamster cares.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 03:06 PM
1

This woman is a threat to your future and your freedom. Get out now. It's not what you want to hear but TRP isn't about coddling people.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 09:37 PM
8

Like most things in life, it's risk/reward. If going bareback is that important to you, it's your paycheck. I have no interest in being a father right now (if ever). I make sure I take steps to avoid that. If you are so anti-condom, a vasectomy might be another option. They are pretty reversible these days and you aren't out of commission for very long.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 08:41 PM
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Never leave reproductive responsibility in someone else's hands. A condom is the last time you have a say in a potential pregnancy. Slightly less pleasurable sex is way better than 18 years of child support.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 07:08 PM
3

Not necessarily. To my mind there are two key questions for purchases. First and foremost, can I afford it? Not "is there room on my credit card" but actually afford it. Second, is it consistent with your long term goals? Buying nice clothes so you look like someone that deserves a raise? Cool. Wasting money on toys? Not so much. TRP is about self-awareness and self-control. Apply the discipline you apply to working out or getting laid to your spending and you're good in my book.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 07:33 PM
5

If you can convince yourself that you are a feminist and support TRP, I applaud your mental gymnastics. Do you believe in "rape culture"?
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 02:46 PM
3

I've been at this long enough that female behaviour no longer surprises or angers me. Male behaviour like this, although I understand why it happens, still pisses me off. It's the part of the anger stage I can't get passed.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 02:02 PM
1

This is really key. Let's say you get married at 35 (you've had your fun, want to settle down and have kids). Your peak earning potential is all AFTER you get married. Unless you come from a wealthy family, pre-nups are pretty damn useless. Not only do they not protect the money you make during the marriage, they don't protect the matrimonial home and they don't protect your pension (if you're lucky enough to have one). If you've got wealth elsewhere, sure you might be able to protect with a pre…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 01:11 AM
2

You could see it as a cautionary tale: how did the mother duck end up with a random goose baby? Lol
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 10:25 PM
1

I don't disagree with you in principle. It can turn into the equivalent of saying you're wrong because you made a typo. However, in this case the Vice article provides no substantive argument to support her position that "innocent until proven guilty" shouldn't be the applicable standard. I'm also trying to talk about this in a TRP context. To me, a large part of TRP is understanding not just what people are doing, but how they do it. This is classic feminist shaming tactics and its important to…
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 09:47 PM
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Feminists have been trying to undermine "innocent until proven guilty" for years. Look at the combination straw man/and hominem fallacy she uses. First, she claims that people invoking this principle of Western society are somehow only doing so to shut down debate. Then, she impugns them as lifeless losers. Feminists are upset because rape, as an intimate crime, is extremely difficult to prove. They want to turn a system that has worked for hundreds if not thousands of years on its head in pursu…
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 06:25 PM
1

If that were true, the patriarchy might be as powerful as the feminists say. The number of people who can't compose a sentence properly is alarming.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 05:59 PM
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You're forgetting the first rule of TRP: Do not talk about TRP. It will get you nowhere. It can hurt you in an academic setting. Pick something else and convince everyone that it's way better. You seem to have some power over the group.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 08:08 PM
3

Men, writ large, will never figure it out. It's contrary to everything we've been taught since we were in the cradle. Most people have neither the strength nor the inclination to break that sort of conditioning.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/14 03:35 AM
2

That's impossible. No one can do this for you. You need to find motivation in yourself. Are you doing to get laid? Are you doing it to feel better about yourself? Whatever it is, when you go to hit the snooze button, that needs to be what stops you. I would suggest finding a different time of day to do it, at least when you're starting out. Getting up early to exercise is a no-go for me personally. I'm just not the kind of person (at least today) who can get up at 5am, work out, shower, have bre…
/r/TheRedPill27/10/14 03:30 AM
1

A leader needs followers. Your troll-fu is weak.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 06:12 PM
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MGTOW is by it's very nature flexible but it essentially is just a different reaction to TRP. On this sub-reddit, a lot of guys are still looking for a traditional relationship, even marriage. MGTOW generally holds that the risk to men in LTR's is simply too great. You can lose entirely too much and you gain entirely too little. Thus, they eschew LTR's in favour of casual sex. Some more radical MGTOWs even go celibate but that's not required or even the norm. Search for Barbarossa in YouTube. No…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 02:09 PM
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Stay strong, brother. First thing, you might want to talk to a lawyer. I know you didn't do anything but a lawyer can talk you through what to do now to keep yourself out of trouble. Also, if her hamster gets so wound up that she decides to press charges, you already know who to call. You need to contain any damage that she's causing you. Past that, if you actually enjoy college beyond the bar scene, throw yourself into your work for a bit. Do your readings for once. If that doesn't suit you, st…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 03:41 AM
3

It seems to me you're doing a lot of work on the hope that this girl will be the mother of your children. You've been with her 5 years. There are no children. Time to shit or get off the pot. If you want kids, have kids. It might even suppress the urge to cheat for a year or two. Otherwise, move on. Stop putting this girl on the "mother of my children" pedestal before she's pregnant.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 08:35 PM
2

Can't tell if this is trolling or not. There might be a few closet white knights around here who will love this shit.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 06:24 PM
7

I'm all for solidarity. I think the Manosphere spends entirely too much time insulting itself. I'm just not seeing what the war is here. What can they honestly do to us? Kick us off Reddit like what happened on 4chan? Is that the doomsday? There have been message boards for almost as long as the internet has existed, I think we'll survive somewhere else. They can't actually hurt us. On the other side, yeah we may be able to cost them a few bucks here or there. The Hungarian holding company that …
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 02:55 AM
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/r/pussypass: high school edition. Seriously, that's fucked up.
/r/MensRights22/10/14 06:49 PM
3

Jack Layton is probably rolling in his grave. This is hilarious and awesome. Why the white ribbon folks would only grab the .ca domain is beyond me.
/r/MensRights22/10/14 06:43 PM
3

The first rule really has to apply professionally. There's absolutely no advantage to talking about this stuff in a professional context.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/14 02:23 AM
2

To clarify, I didn't mean me. I meant that they use it as a shaming tactic to keep men, generally, beta-fied. I give zero fucks.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/14 01:33 AM
0

Yeah, that's why I won't do it. Fapping's better than most sleeping pills and a lot cheaper.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 04:22 PM
16

The scary thing here is how the feminist hamster is now equating any action they don't like with rape. "Objectifying" women has long been a feminist issue but it didn't used to be about rape. The talking point used to be about treating women as equals. Now, the rhetoric has escalated. Everything today is rape. It shuts down discussion and keeps men in a beta cage.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 03:55 PM
1

Kind of curious as to what you're trying to determine op. Daily, I live in a big city.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/14 07:54 PM
4

Agreed. I'm all for getting guys help with their sex life, but if they don't take pussy off the pedestal, they aren't going to be happy. Men have to learn to put themselves first. It doesn't come naturally in our society.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/14 03:54 PM
3

He was invited on to promote a book I believe. Specifically, America: The Book which is, of course, humour. He manipulated the situation to get on his soapbox about the state of cable news which Carlson and Begala were/are just a small part of. That show was/is terrible. I'm not defending Crossfire and Jon Stewart is hillarious. However, I can't stand when he responds to criticism with the "I'm just a clown" bit. I think he has the "my shows airs after puppets making crank calls" comment in this…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 03:14 AM
4

Really going into the wayback machine for this one, eh? Yeah, the clip is great but Jon was really taking advantage of the hosts. They were doing a job and that job was to debate in short adversarial sound bytes. Jon basically pulled the equivalent of yelling at the customer service rep because the phone company screwed up your bill. Yes, it feels good but at the end of the day, it isn't that poor customer service rep's fault that the script he has to follow makes him sound like an idiot. In thi…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 02:42 AM
2

Yes, but that doesn't explain the trend. You have to accept that the SAT's (and every other standardised test) somehow favours men. The best answer to that issue, that more low academic performing women than men take the test, should be sorted out at admissions and therefore shouldn't play into it.
/r/MensRights14/10/14 08:46 PM
4

Is there anything to say besides the wall waits for no woman? I'm not sure what else there is to say.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 06:37 PM
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His analysis of the absurdity of the law could have been written by an MRA. Tax courts aren't family courts and it shows here.
/r/MensRights14/10/14 06:28 PM
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It's both not as bad as it sounds and slightly worse. The original intent of the child support payment as property thing is so that the government could include it in the wife's income and tax it. They then said, nah, we're not taxing the wife but left that child support judgement as property thing in which allows her to take the deduction for expenses related to generating income from that property ie child support. The government basically argues that because the husband's expense can't be tie…
/r/MensRights14/10/14 06:25 PM
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I get what your point is. I'm with you. I'm just pointing out how incredibly stupid and beta bottle service is outside of a major celebration, as you say in your op. If you pay for a girl, you're paying for sex. At very least try to get a good deal.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/14 07:54 PM
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It better be one heck of a club. A lot of places, you can bribe the bouncer for a lot less if all you want to do is skip the line.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/14 07:45 PM
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You said he'd hung out with her a couple times before and was trying to close the deal. Let's say this is a normal ltr. Would you advise a guy to spend four figures on a third date when he makes 70k/year? Sorry, there's no scenario where getting bottle service to get laid makes sense to me.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/14 07:16 PM
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I've never understood bottle service. If you're paying that much to get laid, get a high class hooker. Less bs and she's probably better in bed. Paying for it is paying for it.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/14 03:40 PM
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You need to separate your anger at this idiot girl from your anger about losing a friend suddenly. You're letting your anger at her overwhelm whatever mourning you need to do for your friend. That's not right. You can't let someone else's bullshit interfere. Your friend sounds like a good man and a mentor. I'm sorry you lost him so young. Honour his memory. The skanks will handle themselves.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/14 05:45 PM
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Women complain all the time about guys who are "afraid" of commitment.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/14 02:03 PM
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The pointless squabbling between TRP, MRA and MGTOW serves no one. They're all valid reactions to the same red pill reality. Take what you like and leave the rest.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/14 05:16 PM
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From someone who escaped the BA trap, here's my advice: Don't be sucked in by the "there are lots of jobs in x industry" line. That usually means there are lots of shit jobs in the industry. McDonalds is always hiring. Specialize in something. There are lots of one year community college programs or similar length professional accreditation programs. Find one that fits your skill set. The more obscure the better as long as it's practical. Do what you're good at, not what you like. It's a subtle …
/r/TheRedPill07/10/14 02:59 PM
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Is it at all surprising that women dominate the hamster festival that is HR?
/r/TheRedPill07/10/14 02:00 PM
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You have to remember that the people who are paid to do the academic studies in this area have an interest to produce results consistent with their own blue pill thinking. This means there isn't a lot of direct scholarly support for TRP. So we are left to pull it from existing work which can lead to absurd results. Here's my question for you, can you explain TRP phenomena without TRP? Why do women initiate the vast majority of divorces? Why are women less attracted to guys who are smiling?
/r/TheRedPill06/10/14 07:01 PM
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You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. If you find TRP objectionable, then leave. However, I'll entertain your objections because I value debate. You say that TRP uses anecdotes as data. I understand that there is a danger in overgeneralizing but I'm unclear as to what you want. Reddit is not known for producing peer-reviewed sociology articles. There are frequent references in this sub-reddit to academic studies which support TRP theory. Using real life examples to support data provides c…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/14 03:59 PM
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MGTOW's are not necessarily celibate. A lot of MGTOW's are older, divorced guys who have no interest in repeating their mistakes. They oppose long term relationships, not casual sex. MGTOW's object to dedicating your life to the pursuit of sex because they see it as acting for women instead of yourself. The criticism they have of TRP (when they criticize; a lot of MGTOW's are supportive) is that they see it as just another way of giving women what they want. The whole point is don't put pussy on…
/r/TheRedPill05/10/14 06:03 AM
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The opposition to using evolutionary biology to describe sociological phenomena came from an overreaction to the eugenics movement. Eugenicists tried to use evolution to justify racism and was part of the inspiration for Hitler. After world war ii people largely abandoned evolutionary thinking in sociology out of fear of being associated with eugenics.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 06:24 PM
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It can't be stopped. Just be aware it exists and govern yourself accordingly. A girl that freaks out because you tell her to cheer up probably isn't worth the time or effort. We don't get anywhere yelling at the wind... Or wind bags for that matter.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 01:38 PM
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FFS it's common usage. It even says so in the article you linked to. Yes, technically pedophilia is attraction to pre-pubescent minors not post-pubescent minors. It makes no difference to me what the DSM says. I'm interested in the legal consequences for their action not how to diagnose them. To me there's no difference if this boy was 6 or 16. People who abuse their position of power to have sex with a minor should be treated as pedophiles in the eyes of the law and society, regardless of wheth…
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 04:01 AM
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Statutory rape is statutory rape. I don't care if he enjoyed it or not. He's a minor and they're in a position of power. I'm not saying he should be made to feel like a victim. That doesn't mean we shouldn't throw the book at these pedophiles. They should get the Sandusky treatment. I've got zero time for pedophiles of either gender.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 03:28 AM
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Homer was a lot different in season 1. He was your classic beat down beta provider. In it's own way, The Simpsons were revealing some TRP truth about how miserable a life being a beta can be. A lot of season 1 is about Homer trying to have the perfect 2.5 kids, white picket fence family and reality getting in the way. The Simpsons were dispensing some truth back then about how it's impossible for the average joe to have that romanticized version of the American family.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 02:39 AM
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I'm still not sure why that book isn't on the sidebar. If anything will shock you out of the beta state, it's The Manipulated Man.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/14 09:45 PM
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Guy works in the Alberta oil sands. She just lost her meal ticket. No wonder the hamster is in overdrive.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/14 06:50 PM
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That's the fucking black card of pussy passes right there.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/14 06:28 PM
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Generally speaking society reinforces biology. Social movements that try to work against human nature will eventually fail. That's one of the big problems with Marxism; it doesn't allow for humanity's competitive nature. Today the social expectations for men doom them to failure. Women tell men they want an emotionally available, selfless partner but they reject the men who live up to this standard. They reject this because biology tells us that a man who will not stand up for himself, who will …
/r/TheRedPill30/09/14 04:30 AM
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Our brains are part of our bodies. They're affected by hormones, by our genetic coding. If you are typical of our critics, you have to accept that gender is biologically determined. Trans- people don't choose to be trans nor do they become trans because of their upbringing, right? Then how can we say that for the vast majority of the population that is cis-gendered that our gender identity is somehow the opposite? That it is built by "the patriarchy" or society or our parents? We are hardwired t…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/14 02:50 AM
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My friend, you need to re-examine this. No woman is going to make you happy. No man is going to make you happy. The only person who can make you happy is you. You value honesty. That's the truth. As long as you keep externalizing your problem - blaming women, blaming the cutthroat nature of the world - you'll never deal with whatever is actually bothering you. The world sucks but that was true a thousand years before you were born and it will be true a thousand years after you die. You can't for…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/14 02:31 AM
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Play the field. Seeing you with other women will make her "ready" in a hurry.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/14 01:25 PM
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Here's a good example. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ We can't stop rape through education. Rapists of both genders generally know what they're doing is wrong. They don't care.
/r/MensRights25/09/14 09:07 PM
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The study you linked to only sampled men. 459 male subjects. Of you have evidence for your claim, provide it.
/r/MensRights25/09/14 07:37 PM
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Joseph's story is all about holding frame when the world is giving you shit. He gets sold into slavery by his brothers, falsely accused of rape and thrown in jail. He stays strong and ends up becoming rich and powerful. You don't have to be religious to understand the message.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 03:47 PM
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Bingo. His time is far too valuable.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 01:32 AM
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The number of tinder pictures with babies is disturbing. Do women actually think a man is going to be attracted by that? I don't care if it isn't yours, I'm not going to waste my time finding out.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 07:12 PM
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You mean the author would actually have to do some work? Poor baby. If she couldn't get anyone to talk (even with the guarantee of anonymity), than she shouldn't have speculated on their motivations. It's bad journalism.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 10:40 PM
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First off, the hamsters are out of control. Second, notice how the author didn't interview any of the guys? Journalism has gone to shit.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 02:28 PM
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There may be some developmental psych stuff you could use for theoretical support. You may want to look at stuff about risk-taking. The data on graduation rates from the 60's and 70's should be easy to find. Also, remember that the pool of labour is not equal by gender. Women have lower participation rates. They also self select into careers with low opportunity for advancement (teaching, nursing). If you look at the qualified labour pool, the proportions make sense.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 02:03 PM
1

Step 1: Stop panicking. Seriously. It accomplishes nothing. Step 2: Wait and see if she's actually pregnant. There are a lot of reasons her period could be late if it actually is late (I don't know how closely you monitor her cycles). Step 3: Try to figure out where the heck her hamster is so that you can get her on the abortion wheel. Why does she want to keep it? Is she worried about losing you and wants to tie you down? Is she just pro-life? Is she 20, worried about establishing a career and …
/r/TheRedPill19/09/14 09:13 PM
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To be fair, no one cares about women's soccer. Also, stop muddying their narrative! Nobody wants to hear about the staggering amount of female initiated domestic violence.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/14 07:59 PM
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You're going to have to figure out a blue pill mask for things like work anyway. If you find value in the friendships maintain them. If they're a drain on you, let them go.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/14 07:37 PM
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Retail (ie part time) and a a temp agency that doesn't call much (very part time). Probably not even forty hours a week.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/14 03:32 AM
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The OP seems dangerously close to redpilling his way into some sort of crazy celibate white knight territory. I'm just trying to talk him back off that cliff. My knowledge of neurology/developmental psychology isn't strong enough to really discuss that stuff in any sort of sophisticated fashion. My intent was to go back through the "most responsible teenager in the room" to try to point out where he was conflating ideas of irrationality/immaturity with incapable of giving consent/immaturity. I t…
/r/TheRedPill18/09/14 03:26 AM
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Strung out on heroin according to her which is not overly surprising. If there was any hope of getting money out of the guy, you know the courts would be doing it for her. She claims there's no family "here" to fall back on. Her kids are 13, 8 and 6. Here's my guess: teen mom gets knocked up by HS boyfriend. Stays with the guy, they move for one or both of them to go to university. University ends, they "start their life together" around where they went to school not where they grew up. They hav…
/r/TheRedPill18/09/14 02:57 AM
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They ask a question, you ask for a lawyer. Let him do the talking. Doesn't matter what the question is.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/14 07:38 PM
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The guy's more of an idiot than bp. You're driving a Benz and complaining about the cost of your kid's medication? These two sound like they deserve each other.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/14 07:34 PM
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Okay. Let's take a step back. The most responsible teenager in the house thing is a metaphor to help rational guys like us understand how women think and how to interpret what they say and do. Yes, a man must lead but it doesn't make you her father nor her a child (the whole 'daddy' thing creeps me out too). A woman above the age of consent is fully mentally developed. Our contemporary prohibitions against pedophilia are based on the idea that there can be no consent if the parties are not equal…
/r/TheRedPill17/09/14 06:47 PM
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If you are genuinely repulsed by a woman's immaturity so that you are no longer sexually attracted to her, fine, next. However, if you are just listening to your beta demons because you want blood from a stone (responsibility from a woman), than you need to get your own head straight.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/14 05:39 PM
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I'm hearing a lot of excuses. Yes, it's harder. So what? If you want something, go get it.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/14 02:39 AM
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If your boss at Best Buy will take you back, take it. It's a platform you can use to do something else. If you've ever wanted to start your own business, now is the time. You have zero responsibilities. You have nothing to lose. Look at your local community college and see what you can do part time or at least in a shorter ie non-four year timeframe. There are a lot of great jobs in the trades that don't require a BA.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 07:08 PM
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They won seats on a bunch of city councils including Stockholm, Göteborg and Malmo. Not exactly cause for celebration in my book
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 03:02 PM
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Don't know where you live brother, but in most Western countries there's an economics challenge to what you're proposing. As women have entered the labour force in greater numbers, the supply of labour has increased far faster than the demand for labour. This means lower wages for you. It's way harder to raise a family on one income today than it was for our parents. You better be raking it in.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/14 09:20 PM
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It worked well... for the women. It didn't work so well for the guys who worked 18 hour shifts in factories and mines that were literal death traps so their wives could stay home and get fat. Listen, I come from a traditional family and my mom was a good stay-at-home mom (for me and my sister) but I can't ignore what that's meant for my father. He's going to have to work 5-10 years longer than he otherwise would have. Plus, he had to put up with my mother bitching about her life not having meani…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/14 09:16 PM
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This pretty much confirms the beta bux phenomenon. The highest risk for divorce in the most recent cohort is for women in hypergamous marriages (man makes more than woman). In hypogamous marriages (woman makes more than man), the hamster noise about status has declined and women are now content to stay with their deadbeat husbands rather than pay alimony. Basically as soon as women started making real money, they stopped worrying about whether or not their husband made more than them. As long as…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/14 08:58 PM
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There is no objective standard that would call the tactics of the MRM more confrontational than the tactics employed by feminists. Just do a quick search on Youtube. The MRM isn't about feminism. It has criticisms of feminism, absolutely but it isn't about feminism. It's about rights for men. Some issues have arisen because of feminism but a lot of them come from traditional society. Feminists like to pretend that the MRM wants to rebuild the patriarchy but that's because they don't know anythin…
/r/MensRights12/09/14 02:29 AM
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I think if you think about it in a Machiavellian way, this is great advice. In an office setting, it's a really good idea to buddy up to your boss's assistant, the receptionist, the IT guy etc. even if they're below you on the pecking order. They can a) sing your praises to people that matter and b) provide you with a heads up when something's changing so you can prepare/adjust accordingly. In a social setting, if you frequent the same bars, befriend the bartenders/wait staff. You'll get served …
/r/TheRedPill11/09/14 09:14 PM
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I think there's a negative feedback loop at this point. I think one of the big reason people go into teaching is that they were inspired by someone that taught them. Odds are you are going to be most inspired by someone you can identify with and being of the same gender is a big part of being able to see yourself in someone else's shoes. Since the number of male teachers has shrunk dramatically in the last forty years, the number of male teachers for male students to emulate has declined as well…
/r/TheRedPill11/09/14 08:49 PM
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How is this a good thing? I don't get the traditionalist streak in this sub-reddit sometimes. How does it benefit you if she makes no money? How does it benefit you when she becomes bitter because her life isn't "fulfilling"? How does it benefit you when the judge is determining support and she "gave up her career" for you? How does it benefit you when the judge grants her full custody because she's done the vast majority of the childcare? Esther Vilar talks about this in The Manipulated Man. Me…
/r/TheRedPill11/09/14 03:11 AM
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The problem is that the NFL has reached max saturation with guys. They aren't getting any more male football fans. If you aren't a football fan as a guy by the time your, what, 12? There's a 99% chance you just aren't ever going to be a football fan. Women are viewed as the only way to grow ratings. Thus the NFL spends a month wearing pink and raising money for breast cancer while their former players who die young or suffer from debilitating brain damage have to sue to get their medical bills p…
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 01:01 AM
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Let them be jealous. Just BS them. 99% of the time it isn't worth your time to get into a "why I'm MGTOW" discussion. My favourite for anyone who isn't an amateur matchmaker is "Do you know anyone?" Worst case scenario you've got to BS your way out of some set-up. Most of the time it will just stop them dead. They just want to shame you into "manning up." They aren't thinking of a potential match.
/r/MGTOW10/09/14 12:33 AM
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