Do men have a wall? (Discussion/advice thread)

TheMeJewMovement · 2018-11-03T09:20:18+00:00

No. The wall refers to losing your SMV (sexual market value) to the point where you can no longer attract mates of the quality you desire. A woman’s SMV is based on her youth and beauty. Those are the two categories men mate select for. A mans SMV is based on looks, status and wealth. A man can maintain his looks well into his 60s and even 70s, think silver fox. A mans looks has nothing to do with his youth. And even if you do not retain your looks, your wealth and status can always be increasing until the day you die. So there is no wall for men.

Flesh_Pillow5 · 2018-11-03T09:59:50+00:00

I'd say men have 'the cage' - a situation in which you're utterly fucked by the system and you're financially compromised in a way that restricts your freedom. Like being divorced raped really bad and hit with child support, losing job, kids can't see you and hate you, lose driving licence, jail, false accusations. The cage.

MGTOWlifer · 2018-11-03T09:31:03+00:00

Yes. But we can climb over it when we start earning money and getting stuff. It's called being 18 and poor lol

FennelMGTOW · 2018-11-03T10:50:55+00:00

Men start at the wall and climb it with their efforts.

Women ram into the wall at full speed after 30.

undeadkid666 · 2018-11-03T10:52:37+00:00

I hold a PhD and have done extensive research for nasa’s astrobiology program. A man’s creativity peaks between the ages of 35-50.

user_miki · 2018-11-03T09:17:18+00:00

Yes we have one for banging our head, when divorced raped and loose child custody.

CurrentTeam · 2018-11-03T10:55:22+00:00

The word you are looking for is "burnout". Pace yourself and develop a robust mind/body. The Wall is about women's SMV disappearing after a certain age.

TheFireStarter555 · 2018-11-03T09:55:45+00:00

Mr Biologist, you are delusional. You hit the Wall when you were born. If you don't look like young Tom Cruise or Bratt Pitt, if women don't throw themselves on you, if you have less than 100 Tinder matches per week, if you didn't have at least 100 sexual encounters with attractive young women, then as a man you hit the Wall at the moment of your birth. Women are so picky about male DNA only about 10-15% of men give them tingles. One man could impregnate whole population of Earth, 99.99999% of men are disposable bio-robots created for survival of species. You are background like rest. The good news is if you can be OK with your ego it won't matter because women exchange companionship and sex for money, status etc. So you will get some warm body and pussy but it will be never on level of raw attraction reserved for good-looking DNA.

The true wall is being poor.

Docbear64 · 2018-11-03T10:41:18+00:00

No , because women want you for your resources , your body, or your status

You ever seen like a really cute older woman with a not so cute older guy ?

That same chick might of only fucked hot guys her age or wealthy and cute older guys when she was younger . When they get older they usually give up one of those he can be not so good looking and wealthy or hot but broke as shit .

Women don't want you for the same reasons men want women so no you won't hit a wall as long as a woman feels like she can use you as an accessory in her life in some way .

That's how a fucking 89 year old billionaire married a 26 year old Anna Nicole smith .

If you are talking about being a man and maintaining male relationships, I think it's all about finding and building a strong circle of friends even if said circle is small men don't usually betray each other..... except for situations involving women. So If you nurture decent friendships you probably won't end up alone in a trailer but fuck what do I know ?

RainmanMcmillin · 2018-11-03T13:06:51+00:00

I'm 38 and am just now starting to feel like an 18 year old girl.

Wait. Rephrase that.

I'm just now starting to get undeserved attention for my accomplishments and able to pay bills without breaking a sweat.

General_Fear · 2018-11-03T10:45:05+00:00

Hitting the wall is another way of saying, past your prime. Men are motivated by looks. So when a woman's look fad a woman can't get a man's attention.

For men it's different. When the looks fad, the guy can't get the attention women who like hot bodies. However, it's different for men. Women are more motivated by money. If you got money, you can still attract gold diggers. https://www.google.com/search?q=hugh+hefner&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid3JK1hbjeAhUEwVkKHfcSCZYQ_AUIEigB&biw=1232&bih=645#imgrc=BiOVhPJMdcoVIM:

Gamersparadise4 · 2018-11-03T11:52:54+00:00

I am 25 and planning to go to University next year.I might cancel it depending on circumstances though. And yes I think men start to lose their looks too after 40.If you have good genetics and take care of your health like models you can still be attractive in your 40s as far as looks are concerned. Other factors of course are wealth and status which will keep on growing. I have realised how short life is and working hard everyday to achieve my goals. There is a video on YouTube about a 50 year old model who looks in his 30s.But those are exceptional cases.

m4d_scientist · 2018-11-03T12:50:46+00:00

Men hit their wall when they marry.

DemonGroover · 2018-11-03T13:55:38+00:00

Yes but we are strong enough to use a sledgehammer and can smash right through it.

gimme_wood · 2018-11-03T17:33:26+00:00

Yes, men have a SMV wall. However, it's different.

Women, even unattractive women, have high sex market value in their youth as long as they are not obese. The more unattractive and high body fat they are, the harder they will crash into the wall. Further, an average 19 year old is far more attractive to most men than an attractive 30 year old woman. Women come front loaded with value, get free shit and assistance thrown at them, and therefore usually don't work hard to develop skills/finances that will help them later in life. In fact, most of them are deep in debt.

For a man, as long as you keep in shape, the physical appearance SMV wall will be when you are more aged-looking and advanced in balding. However, many men who stay in shape can still get thin women below 30 despite balding because they have resources (aka "maturity"). That said, young men are generally not deluged with female attention, so the smart ones among us work on ourselves (career, health, finances, skills) and that pay dividends later in life. If you invested in your career in your youth, you can easily get smoking hot 18-24 yo escorts every week or two by the time you're bald and old looking.

2018-11-03T16:25:46+00:00

50-55ish

Freefrombitches123 · 2018-11-03T16:26:20+00:00

Men kind of stay consistent where's women peak high and drop

binkerfluid · 2018-11-03T17:18:02+00:00

getting fat I guess if you dont come back from it

flee_market · 2018-11-04T01:00:48+00:00

Google Hugh Hefner and ask yourself again whether men have a wall.

Title	Do men have a wall? (Discussion/advice thread)
Author	xeno_biologist
Upvotes	13
Comments	35
Date	November 3, 2018 9:15 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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