Does anyone else find holding a conversation with a woman to be taxing?

NoThirst · 2017-07-15T04:26:07+00:00

...at this point in my life I simply find it a complete bore.

raisins3142 · 2017-07-15T04:46:40+00:00

They are energy/emotion sponges and want you to lead the interaction and entertain them. They are also afraid to say the wrong thing in public and so they are closed off in conversation. They won't do something like start talking about a crazy tangent and making up shit to be funny like guys will do.

Hernes777 · 2017-07-15T03:12:50+00:00

You really have to go to men for interesting conversation and intelligence. Men are naturally curious, it's in our nature since we were kids blowing shit up with firecrackers and doing dangerous experiments with chemicals and electronics. There are intelligent women out there, but very few. Most of them are reality TV watching idiots.

MaraxHooves · 2017-07-15T02:52:04+00:00

It's pretty awful, but it's a fun challenge to try to sound as unattractive as possible. Like to say you can't find enough time for gaming because you're hooked on a new anime, or you lost all your mom's money betting on bitcoin. They actually try to keep up, and end up divulging really embarrassing things.

shimenki · 2017-07-15T02:40:31+00:00

Yeah for sure, if I had to create an image construct to it, it would be some scene from a Vietnam war movie where you see the Vietnamese delicately moving through the landmine filled, barbed wired fence up to their hips in water filled with snakes and God knows what else.

Better just to follow the MGTOW sign--exit stage right

reptilianoverlord94 · 2017-07-15T05:52:36+00:00

When you have to do all the giving in anything it's taxing.

WhistlingAlong · 2017-07-15T05:55:18+00:00

As an extrovert I find myself with too much taxed energy since everyone around me is blue pill and soft. Really a bad offset for myself since I am outgoing but I've mastered the art of lone wolf and it is beyond euphoric.

scarymovie2 · 2017-07-15T07:57:04+00:00

They never had to learn the skills to have a conversation. Or make a conversation that will lead a person into bed. I mean would you ever learn anything if thirsty guys were coming upto you talking shit all the time?

And whats funny/sad is the pretty girls think men actually want to have a conversation with them and listen to their horseshit. No we just want to get into your pants.

MobTilliDie · 2017-07-15T10:24:24+00:00

I try not to be logical, saves me energy; A girl once asked me for directions and i proceeded to sign with my hands while making strange sounds to show her i was deaf and dumb. She walks away and a few seconds later she hears me clearly exchanging pleasantries with a friend and chatting him up as we walked away.

REDBEARD4-19-1775 · 2017-07-15T07:02:57+00:00

They talk about inane bullshit and gross shit and how they hate other bitches, you learn to filter it out unless its important..bitches love to interrupt and talk over you proving they never listen but are just thinking what stupid shit they're gonna say next..no reflection no logic no reason..yes very taxing

Xlasingx · 2017-07-15T04:48:53+00:00

yes.. the one to two words i say, i do find laborious..

..though i struggle through..

Dickwraith93 · 2017-07-15T07:15:07+00:00

Can confirm. Whenever I went outside of clothes, trends, class subjects (sometimes they were related and sometimes they weren't) and movies; the conversation went nowhere.

Strella10m · 2017-07-15T09:29:07+00:00

no not at all i use it as a platform for comedy, and it works, i make them laugh and can twist what they say into a pretty good joke which i enjoy.

making people laugh makes me feel good so its all good, I have no desire to be with them though and once i am bored i "move on"

jahozafet · 2017-07-15T09:53:17+00:00

it's a very laborious and minefield filled discourse.

Great way to put it, and I agree.

FriedChickenGuy · 2017-07-15T05:09:46+00:00

Yeah, that's why I don't do it anymore. It's a minefield of stupidity and insane, faulty "logic" mixed with overemotionalism and constant attack plotting.

chasingsnow · 2017-07-15T12:43:20+00:00

no, i can get along with women great. you just have to be immature and treat it with emotion. like i love to make small jokes and say silly shit with women. women can be fun and make jokes and sometimes have good insights when it comes to emotions.

but when it comes to specialized subjects; science, economics, technology, art/culture, things with a more complexity to it, nah, you can't talk to women about e=mc2.

gods_bones · 2017-07-15T10:26:05+00:00

I don't waste my time talking to women anymore.

_Hachiman_Hikigaya_ · 2017-07-15T10:36:01+00:00

We must impose more taxes on the women OP. Most of the women are not paying the taxes at all. we must make sure that every women is paying her share of the tax.

heychi · 2017-07-15T14:15:46+00:00

I totally agree.

Though I haven't been on a date in a while, every time I've tried it was like pulling teeth to have interesting or engaging conversations. I can't tell if women just don't keep up with current events or don't have opinions on anything, but part of me suspects it's just intellectual laziness and they have this "entertain me" mentality.

The select few male friends I have, there's always something to bullshit about. I mean, I don't really keep up with sports (never watch them), but I'm somehow in-tune enough to be aware of the McGregor vs Holyfield fight and to at least speculate that McGregor's gonna get his ass handed to him. Science, religion, politics, and most topics seem to be ripe for guys to chew on at the bar or the water cooler.

I really don't understand why it's so fucking hard to just talk with women about much of anything.

Kappalol1 · 2017-07-15T15:06:13+00:00

Yeah, that's why I only talk to women if absolutely necessary.

cleats4u · 2017-07-15T16:14:17+00:00

To a woman everything is all about their pussies. The mere fact that you are showing her attention means you must want her pussy. After that it is just a game of what you will go through to get it, keep getting it or keep her from giving it to someone else. So basically, there is no conversation with a woman.

Skayruss · 2017-07-15T14:13:29+00:00

Depends on the women. The only other one who I have a friendship with is a coworker who lacks power talk. We're both direct and logical.

When she complains I make it a point to visibly show I'm tuning her out. (I daydream a lot and think so it shows)

mentalidade_logica · 2017-07-15T15:21:29+00:00

Can confirm. Doing some work for female relative. She wanted a latch installed in her screen door. Spent about 15' telling me advise she heard from her friends. I listened to (actually had to pretend to do so, otherwise another long sermon). Looked at latch for 3 seconds, told her it would not work. Got that sermon anyway, because apparently I did not know what to do.

Went local hardware store she spent 20' telling the guys, I went to the car. Then she calls me with a new latch in her hand. I grabbed it from her hands and told the guy this wont work because this latch is 3/4'' but the space in her door is 1/4'', why not is due to the fact that her house is an antique, and the solution is to destroy actual frame. Total time spending with him, less 10 seconds and then he said it wont work.

Told her next time, take my word for it and if I don't know it I will tell you, I don't know. Had to add that it has nothing to do with being smart but all to do with experience.

Zombocom1911 · 2017-07-15T15:56:25+00:00

YES. its laborious and minefield filled because they never learned to hold up their end of a conversation and actually be interesting. Older women tend to be better conversationalists, but then again, who cares about older women?

coryandtrevorforever · 2017-07-15T16:52:11+00:00

I hear ya. I used not to feel this way as much, but I know exactly what you mean now. I'm just not interested, I'd rather be left alone. I don't engage women in conversation or have the conversation for longer than I really have to.

NomadicAnomaly · 2017-07-15T21:10:48+00:00

So... like an unnecessary obstacle course?

PwnySlaystation01 · 2017-07-16T04:21:51+00:00

As long as I don't have to be in earshot of a group of women talking to each other, which is basically what I imagine hell is like.

iongnil · 2017-07-15T14:07:48+00:00

I apologise for going against the flow but personally I've had great conversations with women on all kinds of topics. It helps if you have a shared hobby and that's a starting point.

I'm no Chad either, not even Beta probably Omega (lol).

I used to feel how the OP felt but then I had a hobby where I met lots of women socially and that's when I discovered that I could have great meaningful conversations with women (they weren't all meaningful by any means but enough were when I wanted it to be).

Title	Does anyone else find holding a conversation with a woman to be taxing?
Author	Pawnwithagrudge
Upvotes	55
Comments	38
Date	July 15, 2017 2:35 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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