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[–][deleted] 69 points70 points71 points 8 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link
Or every woman that aborted her child.
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[–]methylotroph10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I have no problem with murdering them now, much better than when they grow up and become criminals and total drains on our society.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Society is a drain on men.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
Abortion isn't murder.
Maternal filicide is extremely common, though. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2174580/
Infanticide laws make it so women are punished less severe when they murder their children.
Safe Haven laws allow women to completely abandon their children without consequence.
Abortion allows women to completely opt out of parenthood.
They can leave the father off the birth certificate.
They can demand child support.
Disporportionate amount of welfare and tax monies go to women. They benefit most from those programs while men pay for them.
Women work less than men, but spend more than men.
Feminism isn't equality, and women don't deserve these rights and privileges.
[–]greatjobawesome-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link
yup
Maternal filicide is extremely common, though. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2174580/ "8.0/100,000 for infants, 2.5/100,000 for preschool-age children, and 1.5/100,000 for school-age children"
lmao "extremely common" ? also, great case for increasing access to abortion and mental health care: In the United States the infanticide rate during the first hour of life outside the womb dropped from 1.41 per 100,000 during 1963 to 1972 to 0.44 per 100,000 for 1974 to 1983; the rates during the first month after birth also declined, whereas those for older infants rose during this time.[128] The legalization of abortion, which was completed in 1973, was the most important factor in the decline in neonatal mortality during the period from 1964 to 1977, according to a study by economists associated with the National Bureau of Economic Research
having trouble verifying this, source would be nice. this seems to imply it varies a lot by state/the judge/ the jury
what if they dont know who the father is? what if they were raped?
needs reform
Disproportionate amount of welfare and tax monies go to women.
Disproportionate amount of welfare and tax monies go to CHILDREN VIA THEIR MOTHERS
They benefit most from those programs while men pay for them.
Women pay taxes too.
Women work less than men,
not by choice. search "why women work part time". Also women do a very disproportionate amount of housework, even when working the same number of hours as their male partners.
but spend more than men.
source?
feminism's GOAL is equality. It does not profess to be perfect. it's a work in progress. these laws were designed to protect children, not to punish men, and they should be reformed.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link
having trouble verifying this
Then you're very stupid.
women pay taxes too
Yeah. A lot less taxes. They spend mens money. That's how they account for the majority of consumer spending. Yet they work a lot less
not by choice
Of course not. Women only have agency when it suits them./s No. I won't search stupid phrases because you don't even try to verify the facts I've stated. I could cite credible sources, but I don't need or want to because you're disingenuous.
Feminism's GOAL is equality. It does not profess to be perfect.
Feminism's goal isn't equality, it's just a liar. It professes moral superiority. It's quite obvious women on average benefit much more from patriarchy than men do. Feminists are willfully ignorant and low-key chauvinistic cunts.
[–]greatjobawesome-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Then you're very stupid. /s stupid phrases you're disingenuous it's just a liar chauvinistic cunts
Coming off as angry makes it harder for me to take you seriously. If you don't want to change my mind by all means keep swearing. Might be hard to get any laws passed when you're calling half the population cunts though
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm not trying to convince you, retard.
[–]greatjobawesome-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
what are you trying to do?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Call you names like stupid cunt, you dumb idiot.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I told you. You're disingenuous. You have irrational biases. And there's no convincing you of anything. You're like a flatearther. Proof isn't enough evidence for people like you. So I'd rather just call you names.
[–]greatjobawesome0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Still didnt answer what you're trying to do. You can call me all the names you want idc
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Calling you names is what I'm trying to do. Wtf are you trying to do, stupid?
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow, you're a dumb one.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women who murder their children deserve a public execution.
Psychosis is not normally a viable legal defense. If someone has psychosis and kills somebody, odds are the courts won't care. Infanticide laws should be repealed and women with "postnatal psychosis" should not be allowed to see their children ever again.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You're talking about the rate of filicide in the first fucking hour, pretending like that shows its uncommon.
The rate is 8 out of 100,000 for newborns in the first year. That's pretty fucking common.
And if women have to have special laws that excuse them from accountability when they murder newborns due to their "postnatal psychosis" then maybe they are mentally inferior and shouldn't be in charge of anything.
[–]greatjobawesome0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're talking about the rate of filicide in the first fucking hour
When did I talk about this?
In the United States the infanticide rate during the first hour of life outside the womb dropped
Right there.
Infanticide is murder. Psychosis isn't a viable defense for men, and it shouldn't be for women.
[–]geeses13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Insufficient server space.
[–]blacksforprosperity1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Female privilege is real.
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Abortion does something so terrible to a girl and everyone in their entire family. It’s one of, if not, the most damaging thing that can be done to us here in this sphere. There is abortion in my family, and I am still haunted by the ghost of the unborn murdered baby girl. Always have been since I was a toddler. I get constant thoughts of genitalia being cut, and it’s quite hard to deal with. I am and have been very sensitive with the other world. Abortion also leads to suicide in families. We as men should be decent and honest and have a heart for those unborn lives murdered.
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I think you're a crazy person. But if men can't have the same rights and privileges women have, women should lose those rights and privileges.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That’s not the first time I’ve been called that.
[–]Bilbo_T_Baggins_OMG2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe it's time to seek therapy then?
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
We are all crazy. Remember your savior said:?
“Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?”
Matthew 7:4
[–]NewJerseyFreakshow8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Someone needs to make a deadbeat moms site. In the name of equality.
[–]MagnusTheShill2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's called tinder/plenty of fish.
[–]killmyselfrightnow994 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'll volunteer info about my mother if you want
[–]TheDevilsAdvokaat3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wasn't there an article about how 90% of declared "deadbeat dads" are not the actual fathers of the children - they've just been legally declared to be?
[–]dualizer0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is a website dedicated to "deadbeat" dads with their photo, and personal information on there, so the public can shame them.
Just a showerthought: If you have their personal information, write them a letter that they probably made a good choice.
[–]51m0n-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wonder how many dead beat dads are subscribed to this subreddit. I wonder how many abortions the entire feminism subreddit gets per year.
Either way, they are both irresponsible and terrible people.
[–][deleted] 49 points50 points51 points 8 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
That pyramid is going to collapse the minute a real male birth control (i.e. Vasalgel) hits the market. The effect of that will be similar to the Pill introduced around 60 years ago. The first thing to go will be the baby-trapping of the high earing men (i.e. athletes, actors, businessmen and other celebrities). Then, the state marriage scam will collapse to be replaced by individually-negotiated contracts. I hope it happens in the next ten years or so because nothing in existence is going to be more fun to watch than the deafening shrieks of the females realizing what the REAL equality is.
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
more logical solution would be to fight for "male abortion"
In case of unplanned/unwanted pregnancy: A girl can keep the child if she wants - but she will hot hold "a gun to the head" of a guy for financial support if he filed for "male abortion" on time.
Its really interesting how not even man rights activists dont push for this simple solution.
[–]Drunk_Cat_Phil9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think they trailed this in Sweden but don’t know anything about it’s success, they called a legal abortion. Where the father terminates all legal rights and obligations to the child basically so for him, the child doesn’t exist
[–]ccc45p7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It wasn't successful. The rest of Sweden shot it down. So much for a truly equal society.
[–]MediocreHolocaust4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Equal right for me, but not for thee.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah right! Shortest way to the political suicide bar none. MRAs have certainly tried something like that and what have they achieved? I can only imagine the cries of "Why do you hate the women and children?" & "What kind of men are you". The feminists and females in general combined with the white knights would have a field day with anyone who dare to threaten "their" cash flows.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah right! Shortest way to the political suicide bar none.
Its all about how you present it - "fight for equal right/choice" or something like that.
but I was not talking about politicians.
MRA - groups should first advocate this matter to public through debates, through educational videos , ads and similar ways.
Men should start demanding this from their political representatives ones enough people are educated about it.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Not going to happen. The females won't abandon any of their privileges voluntarily no matter how trivial they might be because it's simply not in their biological nature which is also reinforced by the victimhood complex through the feminist propaganda. And they are the majority of the vote so unless you can fix that, good fucking luck. P.S. As I said, the MRAs have been trying to introduce something like that among other things for at least last 40 years so there is your proof. And btw, that's why MGTOW is much larger than MRAs: no sane man believes that they can accomplish anything.
[–]Bilbo_T_Baggins_OMG2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unless both parents agree that they want to raise a child, neither should be required to pay child support and only the one who wanted it (the mother, because otherwise she'd abort, adopt, or use birth control) pays to support it.
[–]MadKat888 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
As much as I would like to see this happen, the reality is a little different. Vasectomies have been a thing for quite a while now and were still seeing this shit happen all the time.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Vasectomies are largely irreversible and that's the reason.
[–]51m0n-2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
False
[–]Itisforsexy4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well, that's not entirely fair logic. Vasectomies are still a surgical procedure. And it is invasive. I personally have a phobia of medical practices. Even taking aspirin. Not everyone has a phobia as intense as I do, but a lot of guys are averse to Vasectomies based on this.
If a gel is released, or a male pill, that is 100% effective against pregnancy; there you go. The game changes completely. Not only is there no medical procedure, it's also temporary.
Oh and one more thing to note about vasectomies, in many countries / states in the USA, you can't actually get one done even if you didn't fear the procedure, if you're young and single.
[–]agmatine3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's really up to the doctor. I had mine at 26 with no problems.
[–]Bilbo_T_Baggins_OMG1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup, had mine done at 28. He said he was "concerned" that I wanted it done without having kids, but that in the end I could go to war so it's my choice.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You made a good comment and ruined it with the last line. Holy crap. What is the nature of this madness? Why are we like this?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because people like you must be taught a lesson they won't easily forget. For the good of society, of course. That's why.
[–]SVAndrei0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't want to burst your bubble, but the second Vasagel will hit the market, daddy government will ban the shit out of it. I'm sure it will be available under the counter, but don't expect to see it sold openly as female contraception is. Hell, i'm sure the media will do everything it takes to actually keep men from knowing it even exists as a product. It's just the way this messed up female centrist dump of a planet works these days. Womyn=good, man = bad.
Magic pill makes men more responsible, lol.....
Or just don’t be a fool and pull out / wrap it.
[–]watain21849 points50 points51 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Feminism is about equality" my ass
[–]JakBlack123425 points26 points27 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And when you confront them about it all you hear is...well he should keep it in his pants. Even feminists recognize that women have no agency.
[–]Narcissus366922 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Truth
[–]watain21821 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I long for the day when men have actual reproductive rights like financial abortion surrogacy and birth control
[–]Yasai101-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol . Then I'll be the biggest fuck boy. Until then... Hard risk low reward.
[–]U_LOST_THE_GAME2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No u wont
[–]Yasai1010 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think I just lost the game
[–]mu_mikami16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i...i never thought about that
[–]SomeoneStopMePlease12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I posted this on another post with this image but I'm a father who was awarded sole custody of my daughter back in 2012, while active duty, before a deployment in the Baptist Bible Belt and with a female judge. I'm a fucking unicorn.
[–]Dances_with_vimanas7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
If a woman puts her child up for adoption, does she have to pay child support?
[–]shanevanboening6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
No. She signs her parental rights away in the adoption process.
[–]Dances_with_vimanas5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
does the father ever have the option of relinquishing his parental rights to avoid paying child support? What if the mother has full custody?
[–]shanevanboening6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Only if the mother agrees with the caveat that in exchange for conservatorship/custody/dissolution of parental obligation etc., she will not seek child support. Thin line though tbh. IANAL
[–]Dances_with_vimanas7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So it is up to the mother. Why would she say no to that? Muh male privilege though!
[–]Bilbo_T_Baggins_OMG0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And she can always come back later to demand it.
[–]Dances_with_vimanas1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wtf...
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Preach it brother
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
They'll never give us the rights women have. So we should demand they take women's rights away.
[–]cant_fix_crazy0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
/s
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You really think society can afford to give both men and women these rights? You think the oligarchs who own our government will allow that?
[–]cant_fix_crazy1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Nope. Never happen. Hence the /s
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It'd be easier to take womens special rights/privileges away. We don't have those neoliberal billionaires on our side.
[–]greatjobawesome0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
what special rights
Use proper English. You sound stupid.
answer my question
No
[–]decoy27112 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This makes me so mad. Guys need the choice to financially opt out of an unwanted pregnancy.
I got tricked into having a child at barely twenty years of age. She disappeared and came back after three months and said, "guess what?".
By this time she was at least three and a half months pregnant and no doctor would touch that unless there was threat to life for the mother.
How I wish it worked is like this:
I'm sure there are flaws with my idea, but I reckon it's better than what we currently have.
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[–]decoy27110 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Two slightly related, and yet different issues. By all means continue / start whatever incentives you want that might have families actually decide to have more children.
I just wish society would stop actively fucking over us guys who never had a choice. I don't see it happening though which is sad.
[–]Mr_M0t0m02 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your American judicial system at work!
[–]greatjobawesome1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
left side: *abortion: child doesnt exist *adoption: child is cared for *abandon: child is not cared for, no one celebrates this. nice straw man.
Women get shat on constantly for being 'bad mothers', even if they so much as spend a weekend away.
right side: *child not cared for: stigma. Yeah, there should be a stigma for that.
This is absolute spin
[–]greatjobawesome0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's completely unfair that the government can demand child support payments without the father agreeing to the decision to have a child. The issue is that these laws were established solely to protect children. They weren't designed with malice against men, just a blind spot with regard to them, in my opinion. In order to reform these laws though, alienating half the population might not be the best strategy.
[–]Israfelll1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Total truth.
[–]LimousineLibtard1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let's not forget male v.s. female public housing!
[–]Paladin29031 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This honestly needs to be posted EVERYWHERE in society. Every-FUCKING-where.
You can literally drop your kid off at any hospital if you are a woman. No questions asked.
Imagine if a guy did that, just took the baby to the hospital without the mother knowing. It would make national headlines and we'd all have to wear some sort of ribbon.
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[–]GothJesus0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How is it possible that so many people die from unintentional poisoning? Do people just eat everything they lay eyes on
[–]UrbanEngineer0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess we are fortunate to live in first world countries.
[–]greatjobawesome0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
read that again, but slowly.
[–]UrbanEngineer0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Do ya get mah point tho?
No. 501K is not greater than 282K + 271K + 160K + 140K + 115 K + 61K ...n for n causes of death (source: your link). you're also saying that killing a cluster of cells with no consciousness is the same as killing a conscious human being. You're implying that if you had the choice, you'd kill an adult before flushing two clusters of unconscious cells down the drain, or at least that these two things are morally equivalent. As someone who is pro-choice, I do not see abortion as being perfectly ethical. I also don't think it's the same as killing a person post-birth. You're also ignoring the fact that if women did not choose whether or not they had abortions, and this choice was left solely to the father, that a significant number of fathers, if not 501K, if not more than 501K would elect abortion. So no, it's an idiotic point.
[–]UrbanEngineer0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Heart disease is death by natural causes, as is cancer, tobacco, obesity... and then we FINALLY get to medical errors which is actually causing someone to die by the hands of another.
at hands of another vs. 'natural' is not a distinction I thought you were making in your initial post. my b. But you're still ignoring my 2nd and 3rd point. If I went around saying the men who fight in wars are killing more than women who weren't allowed in combat, and therefore men kill more, that would be obvious and not worth mentioning, and the fact that I'm even pointing it out would be interpreted as disrespectful to the men who defended our country. Likewise for your point. It's disrespectful to say that women kill more than men when men aren't even given the (difficult) choice of having an abortion. That's like saying that prisoners are great drivers because they have the lowest incidence of car accidents out of anyone in the population.
[–]UrbanEngineer1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fair enough. I don't have a stand on abortion but that website that puts out the chart always includes it at the top. Thanks for your reply.
ne of the many, many reasons why the best standard is the one you set for yourself. The first step on that road is by walking away from all of the bullshit, having the courage to be your own Man, and to leave the assholes, Male and especially female, far behind.
Save the ones you can, should you chose, and read last rites to the other barking conformist seals.
Dont knock up western cunt in the west. It is SUICIDE. Let the whole system collapse and burn.
[–]AirplaneNote0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They should hold women to the same standard.
[–]Membrudo0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And you can’t even count on them to carry the child for 9 months for then giving her to your custody even if you pay for all expenses. They never take responsibility neither acknowledge their lack of it.
[–]cashmoney_x-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is one of those things that on the face of it seems to perfectly capture something grand but when you think for a few seconds you realize it's just a strawman fallacy.
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