Escort Services

[deleted] · 2015-05-04T04:30:19+00:00

Anybody got some good recommendations for escort services? So far I have found skipthegames.com but not too sure how legit it is. Help a brother...

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Prostitution should not be prohibited. That is fascistic moralist bullshit of course.

BINGO!

But you are not entitled to sex.

Who is? But its still a biologically driven need.

instead of lamenting or shelling out cash you should reflect on your desires.

To me, the drive for sex is not unlike hunger for food. Sure, I can rub one out for free, but once in awhile, men prefer to pay for Steak over "Top Ramen" instead of "reflecting" on how f**king hungry they are.

Thinking about how women get a free ride on their pussy and men having to go to great lengths to satisfy their urges is why we come here in the first place..to share the understanding of the insanity of it all. Especially the last fifty years of insanity.

Today's women, even those with quite low attractiveness--who fifty years ago would've loved getting ANY male attention--can get on twitter, etc. and get their egos erroneously stroked, which has resulted in them evolving into pretty horrible creatures and it's not going to get better any time soon.

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As far as I know MGTOW generally advocate massive tax reductions and are encouraged to minimize their tax burden as far as possible. So there's that.

And no, I don't misunderstand hyergyny which is what I was talking about. I've written a similar post so I'm just going to quote it:

What men have to realize is that in the Western world sexuality is a pure seller's market for women. A mildly attractive female can literally get by or even make a small fortune by selling her body (sometimes even make hundreds of thousands of dollars without ever being touched by somebody else through the internet alone) while even fairly attractive men are still expected to provide resources in exchange for sex. The game's ridiculously rigged and it will only get better when men stop paying the mark-up and sellers are forced to cut their margins. Something I can't really see happening with the huge amount of whiteknights and manginas religiously propping up the price and even shilling the goods for them.

This is what feminism doesn't tell you. They complain about an alleged wage gap but fail to mention that what men supposedly make more through harder work they pay back to women tenfold for the access to a vagina (even a virtual one).

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Yeah, I totally see your point. But all women are hookers. The only difference between an escort and a wife/girlfriend is the sex is on your terms with an escort whereas it is on the woman's terms with the girlfriend and husbands get three-times-a-year sex rations so that doesn't count. Wives, more often than not, react the same way some hookers react to Johns during sex. Out of duty. But I have talked to brothers on this and they tell me escorts in foreign countries are more pleasant. So a couple bucks (obviously way cheaper if you go to a foreign country) and you can have a memorable experience that you wouldn't get with a wife or girlfriend. Escorts are absolutely within the purview of MGTOW. There are even MGTOW who date which is wayyyyyyy riskier. You're putting money in women's pockets in many situations and there really isn't anything you can do about it. What about when you tip a waitress? What about PayPal fees which I think has a female CEO. Et cetera. The point of MGTOW is to live a life free from gynocentricism. Gynocentricism seeks to manipulate men with female sexuality. With escorts, we have sex on our terms and they do what we want or they're not getting paid. Besides, I've heard numerous guys say that many times if the chick likes you, you'll get a discount or freebie!😁

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On this we will probably continue to disagree but in my opinion using escorts massively contributes to gynocentrism. Celibacy or completely turning the table and actually trying to profit of a relationship/sex does the opposite.

You're putting money in women's pockets in many situations and there really isn't anything you can do about it. What about when you tip a waitress? What about PayPal fees which I think has a female CEO.

You are not paying them for being women (or having a vagina which is an inherently female trait) but for a service. A comparable situation would be if you paid female waiters more than males (which actually happens) or paid paypal for transfering your money while you transfer money for them. Wouldn't make any sense but on testosterone it suddenly does for sex.

With escorts, we have sex on our terms and they do what we want or they're not getting paid. Besides, I've heard numerous guys say that many times if the chick likes you, you'll get a discount or freebie!😁

You might be inclined to believe that but this is not universally the case. There has been a HUGE thread lately about hookers judging their clients on askreddit I think and it was such a red pilling! Many hookers described how men were willing to bail them out, fell in love, gave them large amounts of extra money so they would quit which they didn't and some even said that they married a former client. Take the extreme of desperate guys shoving thousands of dollars into the pockets of lazy cam whores which are servering hundreds of clients at the same time. How is this not contributing to gynocentrism. It's an absolute joke.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/34ple6/current_or_former_sex_workers_what_is_your/

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I agree with you, but it's extremely difficult to internalize and convert your drives to the full realization that appeasing them isn't the best way. I have myself only recently gotten this far. I now know that even though I can "satisfy" my sex drive, it isn't inline for my goals to do so. The realization came to me only after I discovered that I could easily push all my own buttons with pornography, and that I actually preferred pornography to real sex. At first I thought this liberated me. Then I realized that I might as well view liberation as having electrodes plugged into my head to stimulate my pleasure center directly. Then I realized it was for me, just a transfer of time and energy out of my system to things I do not want to support either mentally or physically with time or with money. After this I had a huge shift. I am not looking for that kind of satisfaction --because it's no satisfaction at all in the long run, but instead see the path to self realization and realization of my goals by not following sexual impulses at all, and instead they now seem to naturally just feed back as extra energy for me to use creatively and repair of my system. There is also a spiritual benefit, hard to describe but a kind of clarity. This is the way of celibacy I guess. But celibacy can't be feigned. You either actually fully realize the value of it or you don't. It took me a long time to realize this was the best path for me. You can't be "one blow job away" as the saying goes. It's a complete shift of perspective to fully embrace celibacy.

I think we tread a thin line of validating sexual addiction whenever we recommend people freely engage with prostitutes and pornography. It is certainly not bad to do these things, it's just not "the best we can do." Advocating for moderation is good, but we should also acknowledge that it's possible to simply give it up. That said, it should be legal, just as marijuana, alcohol and other drugs should be legal. Prohibition doesn't work. The only thing that works is education, introspection and self knowledge.

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Very strong post! Exactly how I think about it. Celibacy has to be a conscious decision and can thereby be differentiated from a simple lack of sex. Humanity has already reached a phase of progressing hypersexualisation in which even normal sexual intercourse doesn't cut it and media is frequently used to supplement. People feel the need to take sexual photographs and videos from themselves and share them for attention and validation. Internet porn is widespread that even 10 year olds are starting to get sucked into this blackhole. This will not stop either. With the propagation of 3D glasses and increasingly complex sex toys normal sexuality deteriorate to a minor inconvenience. News like this: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bill-gates-hydrogel-condom-delivers-viagra-electrical-stimulation-wearer-1496070 demonstrate that sexuality is part of the ever moving spiral of "chasing the dragon" without any real purpose to it.

So while I agree that people should be free to induldge in this I think threads like this one actively advocating prostitution are not a sensible idea for MGTOW.

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I hope you are being sarcastic.

Prostitutes are people.

It's the "develop" part that really bothers me, though. You can't possibly be on a MGTOW subreddit without understanding that this very process of "developing" relationships with women IS the problem.

You can also stop acting like the entire thing is as simple as "just go socialize."

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Ironically, bones has posted about his success in socializing with people who might be women: his gf got him charged with domestic violence.

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You'd then sit in stasis without living life.

Nobody said that is what to do.

In fact, if you read the responses everyone is encouraging the OP to go out and live his life.

I feel that you could have thought about all your responses a little longer before posting them.

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I'm admitting nothing. I am ridiculing your absurd position.

You obviously need that female approval, and the false safety that comes with it, in order to feel comfortable. That's great. I'm not here to criticize you. Enjoy it. Wallow in it. I genuinely couldn't care less.

How are you claiming to be some expert on prostitution, and the relationships established therewith, if you haven't used one? Maybe it's the most amazing thing in the world?

Lets not lose focus here: You said

You'd then sit in stasis without living life.

Unless you can defend that having a girlfriend of a few weeks constitutes "living life" while not having a girlfriend of a few weeks is the opposite, then we will consider your point conceded. Remember, you are on a subreddit with men who have gone their entire lives struggling through relationships with women only to give up and find the peace, serenity, and reward of going ones own way.

Which reminds me, I sincerely don't think this is the subreddit for you. Well, at least not yet. Maybe a couple more trips to the clink, then you'll be ready.

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In your rambles you forgot that you are simply sharing your uninformed opinion. You can like whatever you want. You can feel "better" in any way you choose. Great for you. YAY! Of course, that applies to everyone differently. Your experiences in no way reflect on the experiences of everyone else.

You are mechanical and boring; thus why you have mechanical and boring sex. Case closed.

Confirming? Sorry, Mr. Ultra-Cool-Badass-Ladies-Man, I'm not as amazingly badass and sly with the ladies as you are. I also don't have to beat on them to get what I want. How warm and cozy was your prison cell? Is that part of the bonding? Was your cell mechanical and boring? Do you feel that the no-contact order will ultimately bring you closer together; improve the sex even further?

Was my choice of words not cool enough for you, sonny boy? I truly couldn't possibly care less; notwithstanding the aforementioned.

"The normal way." Listen to this guy! He's the arbiter of normalcy. You know nothing of me, boy. Not a single god damn thing. I also feel absolutely no compulsion to prove to you what kind of man I am, what I can or have achieved, or what females I have or will attract. I leave those games for the young and inexperienced. Despite being declared "antisocial" by the grand meister of normalcy, I have never spent a day in jail and I've never been on bail. Those are antisocial and abnormal traits, son.

Title	Escort Services
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Comments	48
Date	May 4, 2015 4:30 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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