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[–][deleted] 238 points239 points240 points 6 years ago* (31 children) | Copy Link
I never got it. Why is getting a gf or wife so forced by the society? Since I ended my relationship with my toxic GF I started appreciating myself and my loneliness and I will never go back, no matter how many people whine about it. I have myself and that's enough
[–]LifeAndReality8586 points87 points88 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s beautiful, I feel the same way.
[–]VendettaHelix77 points78 points79 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Misery loves company, don’t fall into their trap.
[–]RevolutionaryPea746 points47 points48 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Crabs in bucket mentality.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What is that?
[–]jlg488044 points45 points46 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When one crab attempts to escape the bucket they're trapped in, the remaining crabs will try to pull it back in--AKA "misery loves company."
[–]TheRealLostCost46 points47 points48 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Society is the last thing you want to be listening to
[–]The_Wisest11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yessir, you’re absolutely correct there
[–]PMmepicsofyourtits8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But we live in a society!
[–]timleykis0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No.. Society you don't understand.. I am not trapped here with you.. Your trapped here with me!
[–]Doge_Is_Dead24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Read, The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar
[–]prbonfanti3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In portuguese the title is "O homem domado" -> "The Tamed Man" , look how much is lost in translations.
[–]BoredToDeathx20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
sniff brings a tear to my eye..
[–]CastandRefused18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cause people think life is pointless without someone by your side to share experiences with. They think "what could this guy possibly be doing by himself." The answer is anything I want, and that's the beauty of it.
[–]blaizken_42016 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Relationshits make $ all the marriage counselors and wedding planners n shit
[–]PolukranosWordEater5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Wonder just how much of the economy depends on relationships specifically?
You got the obvious ones like the jewelry and floral industry. Then I bet you have more subtle shit like restaurant and movie industry (single men are more frugal and don't have to take dates/gf out to eat to impress them or watch shitty reboots at the theatre hoping to get laid).
EDIT: huh. Looks like couples eating out together (at least once a week) are ranked at the very bottom at 8%. The most common reason was going out "with friends" at 11%. So not as influential as I thought.
https://www.statista.com/topics/1957/eating-out-behavior-in-the-us/
[–]GoatKnows11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know that's the thing most men don't understand that being by yourself exposes whether you are comfortable with who you are or so afraid that you have to always be in a relationship to hide that discomfort. After all you will always be more by yourself than with others any way
[–]pwnzusauce10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because we have been programmed since childhood to meet the standard: have a job, a house, gf/wife, kids and pets.
This standard is not sustainable any longer since the current system only benefits a single gender.
[–]HumanRubiksCube10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In the words of my father...
“Woman is worse than drugs”
[–]BreatheandBeEasy6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The trick is, is to love yourself and be 100% completely comfortable by yourself. Then you can have a happy successful relationship, as long as the other person is the same. And as long as you never take yourself off your own pedestal you pretty much will find a partner who loves themselves and is comfortable on their own too.
So much trouble today is simply from people looking for partners to 'complete' them. That's nonsense and never works. You have to be complete by yourself if you want a successful relationship. And if you don't want a relationship, you're complete anyway so it doesn't matter haha
[–]Jbij064 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The word is not "loneliness" but your solitude. Enjoy the freedom.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because the media can’t help but associate relationships with happiness. This is seen in shows, movies, novels, social media, etc. It’s hardly mentioned how being single can yield any benefits, because they don’t associate that with being happy. I can guarantee you right now, there are tons of guys in relationships with the wrong people because they believe they can’t be happy if they were alone.
Not saying relationships are bad. But we should establish our own self-fulfillment, otherwise we’ll just be chasing the wrong crowd.
[–]anticultured2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Religion. Which is waning.
[–]WiDA552 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yap and if they see you happy its wrong and friends are gone, but if you and your girl do not function then they will go on cofee with you just do enjoy it, wrong friends are even worse
[–]hrm08942 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We just live in the worst time line for relationships. Marriage is encouraged because it grows civilization. If men stopped caring about women, there would be no point in getting a costly education, working, career/professional development, or having kids.
But since our society has fucked me over so hard, I'm giving them the finger and walking away from this shitshow.
[–]shineonucrazydimond0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Misery loves company.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
because someone has to make new babies. and they should. we shouldn't promote a society that is so self centered that we don't have any more babies. sadly what men are presented with currently leave ZERO desire for any rational man to want said family.
i've just also loved my solitude. but people like us are few and far between. most people couldn't go 1 full day without talking to a person. to me that's whatever. I love being alone. but most people have no passions, hobbies, and rely on others for money or for bouncing their ego against.
[–]Spartanworrior0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s easy to see all these hot girls walking around in certain areas and simps with their girlfriends without your sex drive kicking in, but when you check the MGTOW sub or think about the money side of a relationship it changes your perspective.
[+]Rittzbitch-8 points-7 points-6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, you had a TOXIC girlfriend. If you had an amazing girlfriend, then your relationship would have been cool.
[–]binbagaccount5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahahahahaha
[–]Patricijaobjectdude95 points96 points97 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I dont understand the argument...
Like no fucking shit you're missing out. It doesn't take a genius to realize you don't have what you don't have;
You miss out on carneval rides when you're not riding them, you miss out on eating a big mac when you're not eating it, you miss out on the coke high when you're not using it... likewise, you miss out on a girlfriend/wife when you don't have one.
I can only assume they actually mean you shouldn't miss out and at that point I let them self destruct by asking them to clarify their arguments.
[–]Thegriswolf9539 points40 points41 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yeah these delusional people actually think you’re better off with a girlfriend or wife than without one.
[–]Patricijaobjectdude40 points41 points42 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I've learned to NEVER defend myself and just keep asking them questions and make them elaborate their abstract points. It's fun watching them struggle to make sense of their own bullshit.
They never ever admit fault tho, they just keep changing their arguments and call you retarded for not getting it.
[–]Gloval120 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The next time someone brings this shit up I'm so gonna do this. It sounds like a great socializing mini-game. hahaha
[–]Thegriswolf954 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I’d really like to see what their justification for all of the needless drama and heartache is.
[–]cob_25814 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If they end up calling you retarded, just put the blame on yourself and it will end the argument, by saying something like "it would be cruel to make a woman marry a retarded like me" or "a retarded like me is not fit to have family and children".
[–]WanderlustYouth9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its because they look to this for validation, to them having a significant other defines their worth. Honestly anyone who needs external validation will never become self actualized, they'll just live their rest of their days thrown about by the the approval of the stupid masses
[–]Thegriswolf952 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is so true! We need only to look at ourselves to find what gives us meaning and purpose in life.
[–]prbonfanti0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The argument is about society cry about you 'need' to have a wife.
As some people say in my country: Without a woman a man cannot be nothing, not even a cuckold.
[–]Trust_No_Bitches55 points56 points57 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Beautiful.
[–]6times66655 points56 points57 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My uncle is a good example. Guy doesn’t care about relationships. Just wants to build his company even bigger as that’s his passion. He’s private jet rich.
[–]splifficated201945 points46 points47 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Manly tears godddamit.
[–]Zachjsrf39 points40 points41 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Totally me. After I stopped seeking female validation I thought well if I make money then theyll notice me and once I started making it in significant sums I lost interest in their approval. If I'm feeling down I just log in to my Bank account and smile at all the digits.
[–]Alfaphantom12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Just get a dog if you feel lonely. Best partner ever, just asking for love and time to play
[–]Zachjsrf14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh I don't get lonely anymore, did have my Doberman Atlas for a year but had to give him away due to the nature of my work.
[–]Alfaphantom5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That’s sad man. I work from home and have a dachshund. She even sits with me when I have calls and just sleeps until I finish and go for a walk. I will not accept a job that doesn’t offer work from home, just for her.
[–]Zachjsrf7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hear ya, Dobermans are super high energy and very needy for attention and I just couldnt give him what he needed, fuckin heartbreaking for some reason it worked out that i gave him away on my birthday so birthdays are depressing for me. I miss my doggo
[–]crowmagnuman1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or a Smithers
[–]fang3476-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So...... do none of you people get with/date/marry girls that actually make money?
I’m a fairly high earner, and so is my wife. Marrying her put another income close to mine into my one household, doubling our household income.
Since we are joint on all bank accounts, it’s Needless to say I feel double as rich as I did lol. Same expenses but double the income.
[–]hotpeppersauce36 points37 points38 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
A year ago came out of a long term relationship, i struggled a lot afterwards - really dark times for me (sleeping, drinking, eating shit, shutting myself away)
I've finally got my shit together and have been back in the gym, looking after myself, eating right, cutting down on drink etc... blah blah
Told a friend i havent spoken with for a while about all this etc, he asked "You doing that for the ladies?" i said "No, i'm doing it for myself".
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[–]hotpeppersauce12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dont get me wrong, i dont drink constantly. Weekends only, i work through the week and dont drink at all. Weekends are my downtime. I was just drinking too much.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good for you, man. Keep up the healthy habits
[–]horse3y3s31 points32 points33 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I can't relate, I'm broke
[–]LifeAndReality8527 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just for this moment, things like this can change faster than most realize.
[–]DeplorableToast23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is something u can overcome (infinitely easier on your own).
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ya but you're not in debt. you could make $1000 a month and probably live off cheap fast food and some studio apartment. most married men have to earn 5k a month and still are in DEBT. a single man can stay out of debt like no other. there is no problem being broke. but being in debt, means you have even less than zero. most married men live in debt in some way.
[–]TrueProfessor29 points30 points31 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Most men ever born have never reproduced. We are in the majority.
[–]Thegriswolf9525 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
And with how the world is, perhaps the human race shouldn’t reproduce anymore and just snuff itself out in order to reduce long-term suffering.
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I actually think the compassionate/ethical thing to do is not have kids. Life is just suffering. No matter how many platitudes, simple pleasures, or distractions you use to deny this, life eventually finds a way to strip you of everything you cherish.
[–]Thegriswolf9513 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That is objectively true. Are you also an antinatilist?
[–]Saint_Seiya90009 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I am an antinatilist too. The one objective truth i can certainly say is life is competition among living beings and some people enjoy it while others suffer at the bottom. The top ones says life is great because I dont have xyz like the bottom one and I will spend my life helping them .
[–]Thegriswolf953 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah and then they never end up truly helping them or if they do it’s the absolute bare minimum which barely benefits them at all just for clout.
[–]jsutforthis215 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not all men want the burden of offspring. Back in the day it would mean you were stuck with the woman for life (providing etc). Today it means child support which is still bad.
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This post made me extremely sad. Excuse me while I board on my flight to Bali where I will spend the next three weeks sad as hell while enjoying great food and partying as an animal....
[–]SuperWoosh_LG18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It's taken almost 3 years but my family has finally accepted, and understood, that i'm more than happy alone.
They needed to see it for themselves. after two years of being single my alopecia areata has now gone, and I now have a full head of hair, my IBS has stopped, my atopic eczmea has stopped, my depression has dissipated and my anxiety is nothing but a distant memory. Seeing that I have literally become a fitter, healthier, and more attractive human being is more than enough evidence.
Now they don't ask. They see i'm happy and healthy and don't need no split arse in my life, and said life has never been better.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like great parents . You happiness > grandkids 👍
[–]SuperWoosh_LG0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think you’re being sincere, but I can’t tell on Reddit where literally everything can offend some soft sack.
I am lol, my parents always hint they want grandkids in the future without considering my opinion on it
[–]madmystic7412 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I been single two years now. And I cry all the way to the bank. Then I cry even more joyful tears when I see my bank statements now.
[–]kayfab12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Reminds me of that Italian prick i work with at my job who is always bragging, i recently learned he is a provider for is girlfriend, paying for her cell phone bill, trips restaurant, now i know why she dumped him last month to go fuck with an alpha then came right back to him that skinny little fuck tard
[–]that_nast9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
...or kids. Getting divorced and having to pay alimony and child support essentially halves your income if not more. Why anyone would do that is beyond me. Even still, it takes something like $250k to raise a child in North America. I wonder how much it costs to raise a wife also?
[–]Saint_Seiya90009 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do get questioned by people on why you dont get a girlfriend ? Falling in love is worse than falling from bridge, speaking from experience
Now people say what if you find a good girlfriend when you come at your peak point ? What guarantee is there she won't ditch you ?What is her proof of loyalty? Her words ? Everyone says on first date or staring month that but people change their color like chameleon after some point.
When you get hurt then you do something stupid. Revenge and hatred will make you do that after being hurt.
[–]DeplorableToast7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Accurate.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a wife and kids and I upvote this.
[–]okcomar7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm married... To this money 🤑
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only benefit I see in having a girlfriend is regular sex but is it worth it? I’d rather have sex less but be able to leave once I cum and get that post nut clarity, pump and dump all the way.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I lost my job last year. was the first time in 17 years i had been out of a job. If i had a family, I would've been in debt and so stressed. my wife probably would've left me. instead I took 6 months off, because I had a savings to sit back on and took my time to find a new job, that i love. there was ZERO stress, just a bit of existential passion searching about what kind of job i wanted. that was it.
AS GOOD AS A WOMANS BODY MAY FEEL.....THE FEELING OF NOT HAVING MONEY IS 500X WORSE IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. it trumps everything. you won't give a shit about a pair of nice titties if you aren't sure where your weekend groceries are going to come from.
[–]frikabg2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah.... wipe those tears away mate! WIPE THEM! It fucking sucks so much that you have the chance to drink a 15+ yo scotch on your porch while smoking cigarettes while watching the rest of the people in your life hating their lives because their wives are always 'contributing' to their life's 'happiness' :D :D :D
[–]bieberblows2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It reminds me of that meme which I can't find right now but if you do then please post it. The meme is "Men think about women all the time" and it shows firefighters fighting a fire, soldiers fighting gun fire and other men in dangerous situations.
Men dont need women. They need us. They prove it every time they think we need a girlfriend or them around cause they want & need constant attention, validation, and self centered ego boosts.
[–]Jonlife2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This obliterates their hold and control on men. They don't want this message getting out there. Hence why they'll ban this sub reddit in due time.
Most Guys in their 20s won't go mgtow because their sex drive is too strong and the "doesn't matter, had sex" mantra is still strong among blue pill simps to where losing thousands of dollars each year to deal with these idiots is worth it for them lol.
But the smarter ones will find mgtow. And that right there terrifies these money grubbing cunts to no avail. They want total control. Especially with the big whales who earn lots of money. Money they want coming back to them.
[–]Lonewolfblack2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Anyone else find cooking for one immense especially if your a gym goer and bulking... Two portions for me 😂
[–]loldave872 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Misery loves company, I suppose.
[–]prostate-apostate2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Funny I have no money and no woman i must be doing something wrong .
[–]Aceman19501 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ha! Ha! Ha! Now doesn’t that say it all.
[–]Brassbiller881 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/consumeproduct
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only thing you need women for are carnal pleasures. Thats what hookers are for.
[–]bmania771 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You could actual marry a woman with the same or a little more money, but under western divorce law would you get any of it, probably not.
[–]sebastian08011 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
nice
[–]UganadaSonic5011 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Having a wife before the feminists takeover was better?(well she did something wrong you could dump her and not much would happen to you afterwards)nowadays?your a lunatic to think women are worth it,even for sex
[–]Cornelius_Rex1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People mistake "a relationship" for "the right relationship."
The difference is astounding.
[–]RyanHart8191 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Lemme just cry into this stack of money that I dont have to spend on a woman using me as a mobile bank.
[–]MmmmThatsTasty1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm dating an awesome conservative redpill level headed rational girl who wants a childfree life. Both of us have promising salaried careers. So ready for the cash to just pour in once the college debt is gone.
Life is good.
[–]avdarth69[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great for you man. Nice.
[–]Quenten010 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What am I gonna do with all this financial freedom
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