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Title	From r/dankmemes
Author	Nezborn02
Upvotes	1114
Comments	85
Date	April 18, 2018 6:34 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/from-rdankmemes.567960 https://theredarchive.com/post/567960

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There are some religious reasons, but I had also hoped that maybe one day I'd find a nice girl who had stayed clean, like me. I wanted to be that stereotypical gentleman who had opened doors for girls and done nice things for them, not simply to get sex, but also to find a nice companion. I wanted a counterpart that understands me emotionally.

I've also seen my friends and ex-girlfriends destroying themselves through sex that now struggle to pay bills and have to deal with treatment for STD's. They're single, lonely, and sad. I've also seen guys pick these women up and then have to deal with their children. Both sides cheat on each other, lie to each other, and physically abuse each other. The only successful relationships I've seen are my parents and my siblings, and that's because the men and women understand their individual places.

Not me. I've had my share of relationships. I think the single life suits me just fine.

Relationships are like a minefield in No Man's Land. Sure there's a chance that you can get to the other side and become a hero, but I'd rather not fight at all.

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Hmm, one of its proponents said that if you think you understand quantum physics, you haven't understood it.

I was just joking around. I actually fully agree with you.

I studied quantum mechanics a loooong time ago, and I've forgotten almost all of it. The fact that Al Einstein never accepted quantum mechanics, and was famously quoted as saying, 'God does not play dice with the universe' (his succinct way of summarizing his rejection of the theory) . .. that tells me that if somebody that smart rejected it, but it has been proven to be true, then the universe is a really strange and interesting place, much weirder than our senses would lead us to believe.

Kinda like women, when observed through the lenses of blue-pill-colored glasses. Nah, women aren't actually that complicated, but I didn't really understand that until I read through all the MGTOW material, and put the blue pill stuff in my past.

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It's not an easy discipline, but like anything else, if you have the interest level (because you are curious about it, or more likely because you think you can get a job working with it, but even better if both) then a lot of things about it get easier, after you invest lots of time into learning it and working with it. Just like anything else difficult, persistence and determination get the job done. [*edit - Doesn't apply to impossible tasks like finding a NAWALT unicorn. You could be persistent and determined for 700 years and not find one of those.]

That said, although I thought it was fascinating many years ago when I studied it, I haven't used it since then. And in all honesty the class I took was probably a 'quantum mechanics for people with smaller brains' kind of class. About the only remnant I have nowadays is finding it interesting to read stuff like that in the science news.

Bringing it back to the OP topic .. . if she explained her situation properly, she might only have to say the words, 'I'm a slut.' Which is Not Complicated. Her reason for making it sound complicated is she doesn't want to be shamed for being a slut. So yeah, I kinda was staying a little on topic. :-) But mostly just trying to fill up space since the page was blank when I got here! I could have just written 'FIRST POST!' but meh.

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Good summary.

The S. Cat story reminds me of a car analogy. It's a quick way to introduce people to a topic (e.g. the blatant weirdness of quantum mechanics), but as soon as you start to zoom in to dissect it, the analogy starts to fall apart. Especially if people who have working or advanced knowledge of the subject (not me! I've forgotten almost all of it!) start thinking about it.

It's been so long since I studied that stuff, I really don't remember much about the wave/particle duality, or the slit experiments, or observation interference, or how strange and counter-intuitive the behavior becomes as you get closer than the average distance between two atoms in a molecule. I can string words together about it, but to work on the mathematics of it, I'd need to spend a long time studying to get back up to speed. And for what? My current job has zilch to do with it.

It does fill you with a degree of awe for the amazing and amazingly strange universe we live in though.

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It is all amazing and scientists have the ability to make anything extremely boring.

Agreed! That hits close to home, because one of my anti-skills is boring people practically to the point of death; I try to avoid doing that nowadays. If consciously applied ('weaponized'), this anti-skill turns into a positive, because it can be used to encourage people to go away and leave you alone. :-)

But I don't like incorrect analogies.

I get it. Sounds like your subject matter knowledge is either more recent, or more thorough, or both. Personally I hate disinformation and bad teaching (I'm not an instructor IRL, but sometimes my words might fool people into believing I am). With the internet in such high usage, we're all having to develop a good 'mental immune system' to help us determine what ideas fail to pass the smell test /aka/ BS test.

I hope you won't mind if I take this opportunity to say the weirdness of sub atomics could be a clue we are a computer simulation. The coders never wrote the code.

I've read about that idea in the past, in both some general audience targeted science news articles, and also in plenty of science fiction. What specifically do you have in mind when you write, 'The coders never wrote the code'? My apologies if I'm being dense in not understanding that part. (The first reaction thought I have is, Does that mean the behavior at quantum lengths is 'buggy' due to being improperly specified/coded, and/or improperly tested?)

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'The coders never wrote the code'?

I don't know a lot but I test everything for reasonableness. Science documentatries love to say intriguing things but are they correct? Evolution is not animals morphing at will, so Giraffe's didn't grow tall to get leaves from the top of the trees. Although the ones which were taller certainly got to eat when the shorter ones didn't. Saturn's rings aren't incredibly flat because the moons hoovered up the others, sounds good but doesn't fully explain it. And outer space isn't as colorful as the docos show it at least not in our eyesight spectrum.

So quantum physics is all crazy and shit. Why? One reason is almost certainly our observations influence events. This isn't crazy or mystical, a volt meter can show the wrong voltage if itself it draws current and influences the circuit. But the bashing of atoms is amazingly different to anything else. There seems to be quanta of energy fields. Binary bits, things that are or are not. It is so totally different to the physical world we are used to observing. And I keep seeing the similarity in video games. The video game world does not actually exist. Someone codes surfaces and objects and the coding says you cannot move through things supposed to be solid. When done completely, it is believable but sometimes you can find areas which you can enter although you shouldn't be able to do that. And things are totally strange because the coders never expected you could do that. In a video game you can go into strange spaces because there was a gap in the solid areas. Large coloured walls and areas, no visible things in sight and yet you are clearly walking on a surface and can move.

What if we found a gap like that and this explains why things are crazy? I don't know and if it is true, we won't be able to tell. But there's something about the quanta which is similar to virtual reality.

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I'm not the brightest either. I've just read a lot of (good and bad) science fiction, and enjoy reading science news sometimes.

As this guy's comment suggested, the S. Cat story is famous, but kinda misleading. I was mostly just re-wording the wikipedia page as a supplement to my memory; I've read about S. Cat over and over again, mostly in science fiction novels.

This is not a direct answer to your question, but here is a free e-book called Engines of Creation (EOC) by K. Eric Drexler. It talks about the astonishing technology we humans will be able to build through our increasing ability to manipulate material a single atom at a time. Quantum stuff is bizarre and confusing .. . but Drexler demonstrates in some of his books (maybe EOC, maybe another) that at the slightly larger scale of atoms, the quantum stuff is manageable, so there is nothing to prevent amazing new post-scarcity economies, super-capable AI, cheap space travel, advanced medicine, . . . and also horrible new weapons, and other ways to kill us all. But will advanced molecular manufacturing (aka 'nanotechnology') come over the next 5 to 10 to 20 years, or will it be 100 or 200 or 400 years? I don't know, but it's interesting to read about this stuff. I hope I live to see some of the bigger impacts of it, and that civilization doesn't collapse before then.

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