Help me

MukkBarovian · 2018-07-15T04:07:28+00:00

Jordan Peterson. Google some of his content or pick up his book.

This isn't a male / female relationship problem. This is a self validation problem. MGTOW doesn't have a lot of tools beyond warning you about the dangers of relationships and proving that you should self validate instead of relying on a woman for your happiness.

TRP won't help with the self validation problem either. They care about strategies for interacting with women where MGTOW will tell you not to bother. But TRP will also only go as far as to tell you that you need to self validate.

Jordan Peterson is arguably not red pill at all. He came of age long ago and has a different perspective. But he does offer a clear path to self worth for someone as lost as you.

801735 · 2018-07-15T03:40:27+00:00

How does one gain that level of discipline and perseverance to just say fuck everything and focus on self.

More or less by doing it. Fuck everything (if you have to) but most of all, focus on yourself. Comparing yourtodayself to youryesterdayself helps with measuring self-inflicted progress of self yourself.

DisinfectantSolution · 2018-07-15T03:51:01+00:00

Sometimes time fixes problems like yours.

gillagain240 · 2018-07-15T04:08:52+00:00

Stop feeling sorry for yourself. You figured out where, you believe, your problems started at. Start from that place, and work forwards from that. Use trial and error to figure out what best fits you as a person (ie: TRP, MGTOW, or a combination). That's how life works, and expect to fail.

Another way, would be to continue to "wollow in your own shit". Since that's what you're currently doing. Keep that going until something, or someone, comes along and does something to you that pushes you over the edge that you're holding onto for some reason.

Just take control and responsibility of your life, before too much time passes you by.

Edited: spelling

HorusEyeDrops · 2018-07-15T04:27:58+00:00

I was similarly raised by a single mom. I adapted in her household to be a submissive, sheltered, entitled psychopath. Fuck that.

I got out of that by being sculpted by male role models. The best role models are assholes, who aren't afraid to give you honest feedback (assholes=mentors).

To grow up: Carl jung/Jordan peterson 1) Incorporate your Shadow 2) Incorporate your Anima 3) Incorporate the Wise Man

To be happy on your own: 1) Put internal validation first. Fuck external validation. Go your own way in thought and in action. 2) satisfy your Maslow Needs/ aka Appease the seven mind centers! 3) Seek lifelong incremental improvement, set the bar very low.

Best of wishes, man. You'll do fine, you're genetics were naturally selected to survive this world, just go out, and you'll adapt.

I recommend Jordan Peterson, audible will give you his 12 rules for life for free.

Vaxel00 · 2018-07-15T06:02:35+00:00

Say "No". Trust me, there's nothing more empowering and satisfying than saying "No". Most common symptom of low self respect; which is the literal definition of being a simp/cuck/mangina, is the fact that you're a "yes man". Your upbringing must have been something like:

Never raise your voice against a woman I'M your mother therefore I'm always right Never hit a woman, always turn the other cheek It's your duty /responsibility to protect women

It's not always about women, they'll say "respect/obey/don't question the ________", and often this is coming from the education of a bad parent.

So the best thing you can do is ask yourself " What do I want?", instead of "What do I have to do for others?" and realize that in the end you have to be your own man and that you're only accountable for your doings and responsible for your actions. (Is this redundant?, it made so much sense in my head)

And you need to spend some time ALONE, If you have no idea how to be alone and you're anxious in those instances, it's necessary for you to find something that doesn't include other people, I don't know, find a DIY YouTube tutorial on carpentry or something, you need a hobby.

Also, if you are not married, why the hell are you in a dead end job?, you're only supporting yourself, so you are not that pressurized to make ends meet right?, stop dealing with "What ifs" and "I wish" mentality, that line of thinking will drive you on a tangent.

Ludakrit · 2018-07-15T08:02:44+00:00

Fuck Jordan Peterson's fucking book. MAKE YOUR BED AND PET CATS kekeke

here's the real shit. Get yourself on some Vitamin D, Magnesium, a Multi, walk an hour a day around your neighborhood. Do not THINK about anything, simply observe your surroundings and focus on the sensation of walking and breathing.

Congrats you are now doing walking meditation.

Time to be a big boy and fork out that cash for "The Mind Illuminated". It's got some pictures, but not many. There is a picture in there though that you should pay attention to. It's the one with the ox.

Your goal for the rest of your fucking life is to figure it out.

Got2B22 · 2018-07-15T04:30:32+00:00

you should be looking to improve your financial position, but there is plenty of things you can do in the mean time, especially if you have access to the internet

learn a new language, learn to play an instrument, learn a new skill, all of these cost very little money. I would recommend eventually getting into a hobby that has a bit of adrenalin mixed in, like getting a motorbike to ride around

IStillDoButUsedToToo · 2018-07-15T05:14:12+00:00

Hang around here and TRP for a few weeks. Read the comments.

You start to become aware that the things people talk about on here are actually going on in your real life, and you just didn't recognize it. Like when you hear something, but don't listen, because society programmed you that way. You start to realize society is not on your side. There are people out there waging a war against you, and you didn't even know you were at war. You start to realize it in everything - tv, interactions, family, relationships, movies, laws, etc.

Enjoy the awakening. The fact you are poking around means you are already half way there.

DiscombobulatedCake4 · 2018-07-15T05:59:41+00:00

Just don't bend over backwards for people

see_the · 2018-07-15T06:32:02+00:00

I second /u/MukkBarovian on the reading Jordan Peterson's book. He is a clinical psychologist who has helped hundreds of men just like you (I'm talking about peterson not MukkBarovian)

Poofysmoof · 2018-07-15T14:44:34+00:00

Great books to start with, “No more Mr nice guy,” “The Rationale Male,” “48 laws of power.” Great videos to start with, go through Spestnaz whole catalog of videos.

Repeat reading and listening until everything is cataloged in your brain. Then enjoy your life.

Title	Help me
Author	jayouth1991
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Date	July 15, 2018 3:37 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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