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[–]airmaildolphin271 points272 points273 points 6 years ago (78 children) | Copy Link
It always bothered me that the second thing someone asks you in our society after, "what's your name" is "what do you do (for a living)?" For me, my job doesn't define who I am. If anything, it's just a means to an end.
[–]ganjabat21183 points184 points185 points 6 years ago (47 children) | Copy Link
It's a status shit test. Based on what your job is they can measure up your worth based on the profession. Alot easier than asking how much money do you make?
[–]gerbil_jammer79 points80 points81 points 6 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link
When you need to make a rapid judgement on someone it is a helpful question.
If you’re 30 and working at Walmart with no prospects of self improvement it’s telling.
[–]HiredNote86 points87 points88 points 6 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, but everyone's definition of "self-improvement" is different. One passion I have is traveling around Alaska and northern Canada. I love the wilderness, the scenery, the wide open spaces, and the feeling that time is moving at my own pace. I'd choose to live in a shack up there over a mansion in Miami any day of the week.
But guess what? The Joe and Jane Somebodies can't understand why I can't be like them. Why can't I give up on the things I'm passionate about to get work decades at an emasculating, soul-crushing job for the boring house in the boring suburbs? According to them, there's something wrong with me and that's no way to live life. Don't I care about a wife, a family, a retirement fund, and having grandkids? Who is gonna take care of me in my old age?
To the average Joe, anyone who gives up on their passion for a boring job and family in the suburbs is doing it right, even if he is miserable. If you've decided to follow your passion and give up on that, you're in need of a psychiatrist. Some of these people are clearly not genuinely happy. They hardly smile, they have low brows, a tired way of talking, hunched shoulders, and money problems are in their thoughts constantly. Plus, they have a ton of regrets that they haven't been able to get over. Yet, they pat themselves on being responsible adults in a system that treats them like cogs. Since I don't have the same regrets and money problems, they resent me. Some of whom even said right out they resent me because my prospects for getting more out of life is better than their prospects. They are really pissed to know I can just get up and move on to a better life easier than they can.
I've met guys who are mainly interested in playing guitar, video games, smoking pot, and have no prospects for doing anything more than odd jobs. Since that's their passion and they are not doing anything to harm others, why knock them down for it? Will getting a regular 9-5 automatically make them happier or better people?
[–]Hey_Paul_Aaaaaaahh28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for this comment.
There's a lot in between being "super-CEO-celebrity-superstar-philanthropist" and a welfare sponge.
Most people just want something they can stand doing for a while so they can do what they love on their spare time.
[–]HiredNote36 points37 points38 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
One of the reasons why I went MGTOW is because I hate the dismal boredom of modern living. Modern life says, "Finish college, get a job, get married, have kids, get a house in the suburbs, and that's all you need." Wow. Give up on passions to be another gray mass like everyone else.
I gave up on trying to justify my existence to the sheep a long time ago. They can think whatever they wanna think. One thing I know: they are far less happier with their lives than I am with mine. They think people should be like them. But they aren't happy with their lives. You can't say, "Be more like me" and not be happy with your life. Why should someone imitate the life of someone who isn't happy?
Last fall, I was in Alaska, and I slept in my car for several days, and it was the best sleep I'd had all year. Prior to that, I'd been working regular jobs and was having terrible sleep. This is despite the fact that I had a comfortable bed and all the comforts of modern living. But when I woke up in my car, washed myself at the local gym, and looked at myself in the mirror, I felt refreshed in ways the wife, kids, 9-5 could never give me. I later went back down to visit my brother. My brother is a successful businessman with his own company. But the stress of pleasing his wife and raising 3 kids is taking it's toll on him. He is truly a different guy (for the worse) compared to what he was 20 years ago. That's when I knew I'd made the right decision and had zero envy or desire for the regular life.
[–]wolfoftheworld6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Good for you, man! It takes a lot of guts to live an unconventional life and having to deal with the bullshit everyone gives you in the process.
[–]HiredNote17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thank you. My advice is to detach yourself from people who have become a drain on your life. I love my family. But they are a drag to be around. So I cut them off from getting to deep into my personal life as well as spending a lot of time physically in other parts of the world away from them. Even being two hours away from them can be a relief. I've tried to have an adult conversation with them but they just won't get it. They keep coming back to the emotional arguments like "If you don't get married, who is gonna take care of you in your old age?". I bring up a logical argument saying, "There's a 50% chance my marriage will end in divorce and I won't have anyone to take care of me in my old age anyway. What about that?" No reasonable response to that.
I've finally come to the conclusion that I love them but they are they biggest hindrance to a happy life. They don't care if I live a happy life. They'd rather have me blindly follow the herd even if it means unhappiness. So I have to be the bad guy in their eyes in order to find personal satisfaction.
Like you said, it takes a lot of guts to do this because it's so hard push the bullshit away. However, when I'm out there in that northern wilderness, I can exhale and say, "It's worth it."
[–]wolfoftheworld9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love that enthusiasm! I wish you much success wherever your road takes you.
[–]Dragofireheart0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
See I'm the opposite, I'd hate that and I like the modern comforts, lol
But the "modern" life isn't for everyone and not everyone should do it. Some people NEED that freedom to be where ever they want.
[–]Oohhthehumanity7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Thank you....it is nuggets like this that keep me from checking out this sub from time to time. I don´t care for all the downtalking on women that have seem to become the core of content on this sub. Most women are just slaves to their programming. My observation is that there is mostly no malice in what they do they just do what their biology tells them to do and society encourages them and when they fuck up society steps in helps them or lets them get away with it. However that still makes them a liability and not an asset as we were always taught to believe.
Like you I have said a clear "no" to family life and all that comes with it. People around me have a hard time understanding that. Sure I did the "get a good education and get a good job"-scenario but the endless task of going from deadline to deadline pursuing the next step in your career to me simply is not worth it.
[–]HiredNote11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Agreed on the first paragraph. I'm thinking of making more inspirational posts away from talking about women all the time. That'll improve the sub for the better.
Definitely understand you in the second paragraph. When I did the 9-5 all the time, I had insomnia, drank myself to sleep, poor health/dieting, and I constantly thought, "When I finished school, I had a whole list of things I genuinely wanted to do with my life. I've been out of school for years and I haven't done 10% of the things I wanted to do. Most of these things I can still do. What's holding me back aside from my own indecisiveness?"
You're right, man, that deadline to deadline 9-5 existence is not worth it. But it's not just that. It's also that somebody else orients your life. You take a vacation when the boss says so and for how long he says so. Show up when he says so and leave when he says so. Eat when he says so and for how long. Dress the way he says. And have to live close to where he tells you to work. And do this for years, decades.
That is just not for me. There are so many interesting things to do with my time: hiking, mountain climbing, boating, fishing, cycling, racing, flying, swimming, sports, etc. Why does most of my year have to be spent sitting at a desk to make someone else rich while I get scraps for compensation?
[–]0signal02 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, you write beautifully. I'm sitting here having a cup of coffee while I read your posts. Hopefully you'll be posting more stuff about uour lifestyle in the near future.
[–]gerbil_jammer2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Not saying it’s an end all be all, but it’s very telling for a quick assessment.
[–]HiredNote14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Meh. I've met many people who have regular 9-5s and nothing else going for them. And I mean nothing. No friends, social life, hobbies, interests, anything outside their job. Some of these people run their own business. These are the people who wanna work long after retirement age. Cuz they know they've got nothing going for themselves outside of work. These are also the people who retire, find themselves useless, but then work at a job they don't care for or need the money, and they say, "I need this job because I got nothing better to do." That's why you got so many retirees working at dead end customer service jobs even though they don't need the money. Same with the old folks who wanna increase the retirement age to 70.
America is a nation of workaholics. Most people here have nothing going for them outside their job. That's why so many Americans judge people based on a quick assessment based on their job. Because they themselves live in a world where having a regular job makes up for shortcomings in their personal or social lives. The same people who have judged me based on my job always had nothing going for them in their personal and social lives. Nothing. If they were to be out of work, they'd have nothing to do with themselves.
[–]gerbil_jammer2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I find exactly the opposite. Successful people tend to have more hobbies, do more things, and have more long lasting and meaningful relationships.
Not saying you have to be in the 99th percent of income earners but generally people who strives to be successful tend to be more interesting and have more interest.
[–]HiredNote5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Because I have found that to be the exact opposite. Both regarding people I know and regarding people I've read.
But the core of your argument is, "asking a person about there job is the best way to make a quick assessment of them and judge them worthwhile." And the questions I have is, "Why do you need to judge people based on their jobs? What are you trying to get from that? Are you trying to help them or judge them?"
[–]gerbil_jammer-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Trying to help yourself. You can tell a lot about someone by what they do. If they’re a mechanic they probably learn visually. May have common interest in cars or racing. An engineer? Probably a structured thinker. May share interest in a project your working on. Most people spend like 30-40% of their lives at work, it certainly affects who we are.
It affects who I’m going to invite where, helps network, starts conversation. Even if your in school you can just say “I do this now, trying to get experience for xyz”
The only people who ever seem to have a problem with the question are people I am more then happy to avoid.
[–]HiredNote4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Isn't this exactly what the two guys were saying, airmaildophin said, "It always bothered me that the second thing someone asks you in our society after, "what's your name" is "what do you do (for a living)?" For me, my job doesn't define who I am. If anything, it's just a means to an end."
Then ganjabat21 replied, "It's a status shit test. Based on what your job is they can measure up your worth based on the profession. Alot easier than asking how much money do you make?"
That's what the whole discussion arose from. By asking that question, you're not asking that question to benefit the person, you're asking that question how to financially benefit off them for yourself. You have stated you do it to help yourself and see about starting financial networks.
But by asking that question you're neither doing it for the benefit of the person you're asking, nor because you care/interested in them as individuals. You need to know their finances before you can associate with them and how you can benefit thru that. That is the issue in the discussion.
[–]Natsume243 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My observances about you are that you are very Type A, and while I respect and admire your view of life and think more people should have aspects of it, I wholeheartedly feel you'd be a little too go getter for my tastes.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Found the #iamaveryimportantperson
[–]NietzscheExplosion2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just tell gerbil-jammer you work at walmart so he can fuck off.
[–]Tex_Willer_441 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I work in a restaurant kitchen. Must make me the least interesting person in the world. Such boring feats as cycling across Europe, writing a book, winning an eco campaign by becoming an expert in a natural history field, being an acknowledged local expert in genealogy, contributing on radio, etc etc. If you ask me, the boring person is he who judges worth solely by social status. We are striving in our lives to distance ourselves from society's expectations and value assessments
[–]gerbil_jammer0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not at all.
Working on it, but not there yet.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I get what you mean. Haven't made it up there yet but the Yukon, NWT or Alaska are pretty much look like paradise - northern Scandinavia (i have been there) pretty much is too. I'm very fond of the south west of England - in particular Cornwall. Honestly if i had a roof over my head i think i would live in any of these places, work a dead end job and enjoy a simple life. I sort of work in a shitty dead end job now but it suits me for hours and travelling. I like working nights away from the world with chilled out people who don't care. Plenty of time to read my books and learn and work on projects in my free time, often times on nights i listen to podcasts and audiobooks when not working. At weekends i often bring my side projects into the workshop if there is nothing much on. Money could be worse in what i do. By most metrics i am kind of a looser but the high powered corporate life with success and all the sharks, back stabbing, drama and stress never appealed to me.
[–]ganjabat2151 points52 points53 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Agreed but could go both ways. I tell people I work a part time low status job but in reality I can afford do that because all my money is in investments and property so I dont need to slave 40h a week. Keeps the wrong ones from staying for the wrong reasons when you show people your cards
[–]gerbil_jammer14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If your invested heavily you don’t work a low wage job. Your job is managing your investments.
I’m not talking about men or women. I’m talking in general. Someone who doesn’t have to foresight to attempt to improve themselves will probably be a drain on you.
[–]ptfsaurusrex17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Perhaps he just wants to work a part-time, low responsibility, albeit low-paying job just to stay busy. Perhaps he doesn't need the money anymore (i.e. it's just "fuck you" money at this point). A lot of FIRE'd individuals volunteer or downsize work even if they don't have to. He could also be using it as a cover so he doesn't signal to others that he's fully/semi-retired at a relatively younger age.
[–]gerbil_jammer-3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’m going to bet most people who FIRE don’t get asked what they do for a living. Status is evident.
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[+]gerbil_jammer-9 points-8 points-7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m on a boat with a doctor who’s a partner in an er group right now....
[–]ganjabat213 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not low wage. Low status. Less corporate bullshit and responsibility, more time for personal wealth bulding and endeavours. And you can leave at the drop of a dime without hesitation.
But yeah people who don't help themselves and leech off others are pretty easy to spot and yeah that's a red flag.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The people I know in my life who are making good money and not ripping people off in the process are few and far between. If someone is working at Walmart and that's the best they can do that's the best they can do and I'm more likely to respect them than the financial investors and lawyers I know who are complete degenerates, albeit highly paid complete shit stains. See also: pretty much anyone who works for the state/government/military/leo. Fucking parasites.
If someone asks me "so....what do you do?" most cases is just a way to reduce me to my GDP. It doesn't indicate if I'm honorable, trustworthy, principled, or hard working.
It's a pissing contest I can choose not to get into.
[–]HiredNote1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wish I could upvote this 1 million times.
[–]xxquickscopegodxx-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or they're just curious. If I'm going to talk to a fellow human I'm going to ask them what they do, it's how you learn about one another
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Short sighted though. Guy that works at my local gun shop makes 15 bucks an hour, dresses normally, regular car, but hes also an internationally known knife maker who's knives bring thousands of dollars each. He just really likes guns and shooting. You would never know hes a small m millionaire.
[–]gerbil_jammer-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok.
The guys job is a master knife maker.
[–]Natsume243 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
One thing you have to understand is that when you wanna date, you're essentially putting up an investment on both sides. Women give up their bodies, men their resources. It just stands that men potentially lose more out of the exchange.
If you view women, every single one of them, as a prostitute with various prices, then you can properly gauge how much time and effort you wanna put in them.
For me, in wanted to do it out of a sense of both camaraderie and mutual support. I wanted to feel desired and special. Those feelings dont come for free, which is why I've decided not to get married.
The ROI for all the time and effort put into most females goes out the window whenever someone better comes along.
So I may have a few female friends, but as for love, you gotta constantly rent it.
Keep that in mind. If you work minimum wage at 30(like I do at 28) that's your bag. I personally won't shame you, but understand that if you are looking for a woman to keep around, you're out of luck.
I still take good care of myself(helps by being a minimalist) and on occasion I just get an escort.
The only thing a person's job tells them about themselves is exactly how much they can be exploited. Period.
I'd be more worried but I am done with dating. And honestly, my life has been a lot less stressful since then.
I have more disposable income than some.people with kids making 20 an hour.
Dont let loneliness make you stupid.
I have plans for my life, but as won't be ashamed of what I gotta do to get there.
Work is work, regardless of what you do.
[–]gerbil_jammer-5 points-4 points-3 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
$20 an hour is poor people.
In America kids are cheap enough and there is enough class mobility they shouldn’t really bother your bottom line. It’s more of a time restraint.
Working for minimum wage is selling your soul by the hour for a shit quality of life.
[–]Natsume240 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Do you say the same of people who work minimum wage jobs while trying to put themselves thru school?
[–]gerbil_jammer-3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Everyone’s gotta start somewhere, truth be told by the time you’re 23 you should have something going for you as far as wealth acquisition.
I think furthering your education goes a long way for personal development but isn’t necessary for some people.
[–]Natsume242 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I get your point.
You are advocating for people to never stay stagnant in their lives....to always seek the better deal. This makes sense because nothing worthwhile just falls into your lap.
But I never shame anyone, regardless of how old they may be, if they decide they want to take steps to better their own lives. I've no clue how they grew up or what they went through.
A person's life trajectory can be affected by both personal decisions and outside influence.
The trick is, no matter how you start, to remember to put in the work for yourself.
That's what I'm doing.
[–]gerbil_jammer-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If work for yourself pays minimum wage at 28 it’s time to work for someone else.
I know that’s brutal but it is what it is. I don’t think your paycheck determines your worth, but it certainly determines your quality of life. You don’t need to be in the 99th percentile, but you need to make enough to be able to experience life and grow, minimum wage won’t do that.
The earlier you can peak your income and make it work for you the higher quality of life you will have.
Women can hurt you, but financial ignorance is a bigger problem then them in this country.
[–]iforgiveyouall1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate that judgemental attitude, it’s based on status and prestige rather than anything worthwhile. Who’s to say the 30 yr old s”at Walmart isn’t happier than the 30 yr old married with two kids executive is?
[–]TigPlaze1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, it's code for "how much money do you make?" I give a wise-ass answer. I say, "I'm a crack dealer" or "I'm an international drug smuggler."
[+]SnarfleBob-7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How useless do you have to be to view a conversation starter as a shit test
[–]milordi11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
It's something that you do for 40 hours every week, of course it's important part of your life.
[–]Mysterion32015 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
A job isn't a personality trait. it's your hobbies or things that you "like" to do that define you.
[–]milordi-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So you can't like your job?
[–]serial_underachiever2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can butta statistically you don't
[–]voncloft221 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No just a means to an end. My hobbies are free work I better damn well get paid.
[–]Chad_Thundacock12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I agree with this, fuck working a 9 - 5 making other people rich. Find your passion and work on that, you may not make money at first and you may have to work another job while becoming more proficient & skilled at your craft, but soon you'll make some money then later the amount of money will grow as your skill and portfolio grows.
Writing for example, you may be an average writer at first, but after a few short stories you publish your first novel on amazon and start seeing a return on the hundreds (or thousands) of unpaid hours preceding that accomplishment. That analogy is applicable to a lot of areas in life, like a trade, investing, programming. etc.
Point is, you should work so you can be proud to introduce yourself and what you do "My name is Chad and I'm a software developer, I created X, Y, and Z, and started doing it 5 years ago and was fortunate enough to develop my passion into a skill that now generates 6 figures a year" Don't let anyone dissuade you, perseverance is the measure of a man.
[–]voncloft229 points10 points11 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
My passion is sitting on the couch, unfortunately it's not a job, and if it was it wouldn't pay enough. The idea of find your passion, or a job you like is bullshit.
A job is just a means to an end nothing more, do you think I really care about the customer? No I do "x" I get money.
At the end of the day I am not thinking "boy I sure do hope I helped that person and hope he has a fulfilling life because of me"... No its "thank fuck today is payday, now I can pay rent, and tomorrow is the weekend, I'm doing my passion of doing jack shit!! Just 8 more hours to go until I can clock the fuck out of fucking work"
Yes I am a selfish asshole who only cares about himself and I'm okay with it. My life is me me me, the rest of humanity can fuck off.
[–]JamieHynemanAMA2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can’t seem to find a passion or a 9-5 though, maybe I’m too young
[–]Pat_o_cake5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is what time is for, trying different things. Failure in one area isn't bad it just means you can cross it off a list and try something else or come back to it later in life. I read somewhere the average bloke has 3 careers in his life.
[–]ptfsaurusrex3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, but I still wouldn't make it define who I am; it's simply a means to paying bills and putting food on the table. Some people place too much personal pride into their jobs and then get emotionally devastated when they get laid off or fired (or if their business goes under if self-employed).
[–]wolfoftheworld9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It bothers me as well.
When I was in Greece in May, I was having lunch with this family from our tour group and right away that one of the father's first questions! I'm no doctor or scientist (he was a stem cell researcher or something) so I could tell right away he was unimpressed. It didn't phase me. My job earns me the money to travel and do what I want. I may not be making over 30,000 but that shouldn't matter to someone with moral integrity.
[–]HiredNote4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You have nothing to prove to nobody. You're not doing anything illegal nor morally harmful to anyone. So all you should do is focus on things you are passionate about.
[–]wolfoftheworld4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Thanks! I have to remind myself of this constantly.
[–]006rbc7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then comes the follow up question, "do you like it?", no I hate money and love going to work for fun.
[–]Richardhg8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's the Prostitute Ethic, which is very powerful in the US. When women ask, they are trying to establish at what existence level you'd be able to support them. If you are at a high enough level, out comes the pussy enticement, which will last until you sign that unbreakable vow, the marriage contract.
I know some men who tell me their wives are dynamite in bed and they're still getting lots of sex. That's often a cover for her fucking all kinds of other men as well.
[–]IThinkThisIsAUser6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lots of Asian women seem to ask where I work
[–]jrpark053 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dates with Asian women were like job interviews.
Yes! And the other "social screening" question would be "where do you live?"
[–]stevev9163 points4 points5 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Always answer this question with "shit sucker"
They laugh uncomfortably... You elaborate, "you know the trucks that suck shit out of porta-potties? That's me"
Then, lick the cheese off your fingers from the nachos at party.
If they are douchebags, they walk away.
If they are non-pretentious, they ask about it... Then you say joking, tell them ur real job.
[–]iluvfrostidflaks1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
my econ professor mentioned this exact same thing once in class. LOL. thats a conversation killer for me.
[–]thekingjelly131 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I gave up dating when I was building my career and just fucked as many chicks as possible. There is almost ZERO potential of finding someone when you're successful, unless you are looking on upper class / celebrity / high cost dating services. I hope you've found someone you're happy with ! Good luck
[–]NoThirst1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
...always question #1 or 2 on a first date. Sizing up your ability to provide resources.
[–]str8nnarrow1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love that question. And I phrase it that way intentionally. "What do you do?" Funny thing is, most people answer with their job title. Or respond something along the lines of "Like, for work?" Sure. Work is a thing you do. But I just gave you an unbounded option to tell me a bit about YOU. That's all you could come up with? How boring.
[–]sacandbaby1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And what if people ask what you do but you have enough money and don't have to work?
[–]julianleung0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They are measureing the resource extraction coefficient. SI Unit K
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I suppose it depends. I've always thought there are two kinds of people. Those who are career driven and those who just work. I have always worked. I've done a few different jobs and i will continue to do whatever makes me a living for the rest of my life. If i lost my job tomorrow? I'd probably go travelling for a few months rather than dive back in to find a new one. I value time off over money. I work only as hard as i need to. Most of my overtime is side work - because it pays cash or favours so no taxman.
If you're career driven, good for you. It's not something i've ever really aspired to or understood.
The corporate world seems like its own special hell and running your own business is hard work - i know. I've worked for small businesses. I prefer just working.
I know some of the really career driven guys it's just a means to an end to retire early. Honestly i have no confidence in the financial system or the coloured paper we call "money" so i'm planning to work until i die and take my retirement while i'm still relatively healthy in my 40's and 50's by doing some travelling and using more of my savings then and then going back to work when i'm older and less able to enjoy it all.
[–]mrjackydees-5 points-4 points-3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I always read this opinion on the internet and have never met anyone who was meeting a stranger and asked those two questions in succession. it's always "what is your name" then, when the conversation comes to where work is mentioned, then the person gets curious and asks "oh what is it that you do?".
I feel like people who claim that they always gets this "in society" just have some self-esteem issue about their job they need to work on.
[–]yummy-vodka5799206 points207 points208 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Best words to say to get rid of a crazy bitch. Because if you have a good job and wealth, she will not let go.
[–]NoCharism67 points68 points69 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
good idea
[–]Chickxxx39 points40 points41 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Genius-IQ
[–]Mr-Villain0us14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Outstanding move
[–]wilk240 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only stuff that matters
[–]rkelly1110 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Unless her hypergamous subroutines kick in and finds someone with a better job/ wealth than you. Or she reverse monkey branches and goes out with a dude poorer than you because he is taller or a thug/badboy. I have seen both of those happen kinda often.
[–]yummy-vodka57995 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then you have to go 7d chess move and do things that make women cringe. Take 2 weeks off, then get needy, move back to your mom’s house, say you got molested and cry for no reason, drink everyday, stop taking showers for a week, tell her to get a job...
[–]Wonderlen24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I remember by ex-girlfriend talking about a coworker's man (can't remember the relationship) losing his job because the place of employment ceased operations, and saying "If that ever happens to you..." than catching herself.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Im hoping that was the moment you meep meepd the fuck outta there...
[–]Wonderlen4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hung on for a while longer then dumped her.
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
😂😂#monkeybranch #hypergamy
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Betabuxx ran out of money. lmao
[–]jdcoop1712 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This happen to a friend of mine. He met this girl at his job moved in with her and her kids got a his own car everything was going great for like a year . He then lost his job and the next week she broke up with him and told him to move out and he became homeless living in his car
[–]plnobody10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So true
[–]Walespro10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well I was broke and almost hopeless once no chick gave me a chance I was in a really bad place. Managed to get a small gig and decided to try my hand in entrepreneurship after saved up some cash, then started noticing people paying attention to me specifically women. I decided there and then I will die single. If they can't be there when you are down what's their need when you have everything.
[–]Natsume246 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. When you notice people come to yo uh when you're doing great it makes you wary as hell.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Plot twist: She was never there all along. It was just his turn.
Briffault's Law illustrated
[–]SatoshiNokomata6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you tell a woman what you do or what you make, that factors into their decision whether to be with you or not. When you take that thing away by losing your job, they will disappear because they wanted a source of fake security. Better off claiming you work at a fast food restaurant or something like that to find the women who actually like you for you. Then you can bust out the money later and it will be a bonus...
[–]ProdigalPlaneswalker5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm remembering the part in Coming to America where the chick gets angry at the main dude for hiding his status as a prince and thinking how unrealistic that part of the story was.
He spent a good chunk of the movie working a low wage job at her father's fast food joint as a cover story too.
[–]DixieNourmos0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fax
[–]TonyMGTOW5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuckin whores will always leave you at ur lowest
[–]parentectomy3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha
[–]Rodion-Raskolnikov4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
An oldie but a goodie. This meme really hit me hard first time I saw it and stayed with me ever since. The second frame, man, I know just what that feels like.
[–]AntiAbleism2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Truth
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Had this happen 2x. Takes a few weeks, to 2 months at latest. Second time was my mgtow awakening. No thank you anymore. Non serviam.
[–]peguy20001 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also happend to me, ex got more and more distant and it eventually turned into full ghosting lol
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Been through this TWICE! :D :D :D
Bitches are so hypergamist, it's insane!
[–]migelall1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ahahaha, happened to one of my friends.
[–]ItPutsLotionOnItSkin1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Taking home 3K biweekly, happy marriage. Taking home 1K biweekly, divorced. My health and stress were not an issue as long as I made money.
[–]Kotaro-Atani0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OMG she just up and Ghosted on you... ;) LOL JK
[–]SuperMegaMarlins19900 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Muh based black ppl
She got those fading powers
[–]I-am-the-lul0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She may not leave you right away, but the countdown has already begun.
[–]GuyChamomille0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No doubt we can't count on women to lean on. It's against all our programming but truth has never been so easy to swallow. In the end, it will be for the better. Thanks God for seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. And thanks to you my fellow MGTOW brothers for being part of this the biggest middle finger against this clownish world.
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