I'd like to understand something.

peguy2000 · 2019-07-30T08:15:24+00:00

They think they got a unicorn and we just got unlucky, so our opinion doesnt count and we just didnt meet the right person yet

Glenn_Vatista · 2019-07-30T08:12:23+00:00

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Itsbbbitch · 2019-07-30T08:32:38+00:00

Because we have been taught that men are stupid and women are wise when the actual reality is the total opposite. That's the whole reason why women have spent 100+ years mindlessly parroting "Women are always right even when we're wrong."

Glenn_Vatista · 2019-07-30T08:13:45+00:00

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StormOfHoney · 2019-07-30T10:23:16+00:00

Because "lol that wouldn't happen to me" mentality.

A few years back, a mate of mine got caught up in a ling distance online relationship. It was suspicious as fuck to me from the get go.

I tried talking to him. He wouldn't listen. I gave him some articles abouy catfishing I'd found and forced him to read them in front of me. He smugly handed them back to me.

$5000 later and not even meeting this girl once... he finally conceded he got played and never speaks of it again.

Guys are stupid when it comes to women. Only MGTOWs are smart and strong enough to think rationally.

iseehot · 2019-07-30T12:51:47+00:00

They think the suffering has a point.

ZlayerXZ · 2019-07-30T08:16:03+00:00

It’s called emotional thinking, their white knighting ego doesn’t let them acknowledge women flaws, because in their mind they assume that they will be shame and aren’t going to get laid never again, because of it. Of course this isn’t true, women love to fuck rebellious men, but they have to keep faces for their social game, this is the bases for the matriarchy that they are hardwired to enforced through social shaming and holding sex as a hanging fruit (while getting their sexual needs met by an small group of guys). We (men) are basically hardwired to be idiots when it’s about women, luckily we can overcome it.

C1iCKkK · 2019-07-30T08:17:34+00:00

It’s like gambling You know people have lost heaps, yet you still play

Glenn_Vatista · 2019-07-30T08:40:40+00:00

Humankind is inherently optimistic because it benefits genetic survival of those who are optimistic.

Same applies here. If all people not only swallowed the red pill but also never naiivly chased unicorns, NAWALTs, the "right guy" and a textbook family life and did not try to hope away the risks and consequences of intercourse and relationships, then humankind would literally go extinct within one or two generations.

RedPilledFanatic · 2019-07-30T11:38:18+00:00

tl:dr IMO by the feminist indoctrination it's hard for men to wake up

My best guess is the Feminist infection has been rooted so deeply in our societies it's hard to open your eyes. I mean from every means possible you get indoctrinated that women are the center of this universe. Through education, uprising, media and books. In the media you'll see men being pictured as dumb ass baffoons who will get their @sses kicked by women, women will fall immediately in love with gentle acting men and are the saviours of the day.

While in reality it's totally the opposite. I had a hard time swallowing the RP as well. I actually laughed and discarded this MGTOW thing as total BS. But I kept taking them and I vividly remember that "wait a minute....." thought. Actually my denial phase took the most time. Rage was over quickly and mainly based on the fact in retrospect I became Red aware 20 years ago. My father, great man RIP, was a blue pilled Chad. As a young men I asked him these questions: "do women like to be treated as garbage instead of being nice? What do I actually need them for? How ugly are they without make-up?" Sigh, I'd wish I could take back that "dad to son wisdom conversation" that those things aren't the case and I was wrong. Put me into blue coma for another 20 years. I was ffing asking the right questions! But it was over within 2 days. After all: I made the choice not to pursue Red anymore.

Now I feel completely free, realizing I don't need women for anything (I vehemently don't want to procreate).

well-i · 2019-07-30T12:02:47+00:00

I don't believe I have the answer, however my brother is like this still believes he can find his 'one'.

I did make a post about him thinking Inhad him on board with redpill mgtow philosophy but he thinks that I want him to be miserable like me? Lol even though I told him this is the happiest, most relaxed I've ever been since my marriage ended

I think the saying goes "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"

Phantom_Spark · 2019-07-30T12:35:02+00:00

Very few men look at their life rationally and attempt to make good decisions that they can live with.

As much as we like to think we are logical... the truth is that many men are also slaves to their emotion and lizard brain.

How many men out no effort into gaining an education, skill, or trade in their youth? How many have sex freely with women without protection thinking nothing will happen? How many think being macho and gaining approval from their male friends will make them more desirable to females? How many have a strong aversion to any implication that they might be gay to the extreme where people use terms like “pause” and “no homo”.

I could keep going, but you get the point. You won’t easily find a man that you can have a rational discussion with who doesn’t indulge in such foolishness. And I’m not saying men should be perfect either. But when men behave in ways that imply that those behaviors are good, how much can you honestly expect from them?

Learn this point well. You can never teach someone, but they can learn. You can give other men the knowledge but they must have the desire to hear your words. Otherwise you’re wasting your time. Many men require enough pain to be broken by a situation and to be given an alternative before they consider walking away.

In regards to relationships.... sex bots and AI will pose the greatest threat to women in human history. It doesn’t even need to be perfect either. If that machine can handle some basic tasks, feels soft and feminine and perhaps can hold some basic conversation... women will have lost completely.

Absent an alternative, men will continue to kill themselves. It’s a rare man who without an alternative will walk away from women believing that it’s. It worth it.

NotherThrowaway284 · 2019-07-30T16:17:31+00:00

"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”

bamabeatsny · 2019-07-30T20:13:20+00:00

Most people who ask for advice, are not seeking it (really), or are not going to take it. UNLESS, said advice meets with the decision they've already made, or are leaning toward.

They're looking for validation.

LOIKDU · 2019-07-31T01:49:25+00:00

From my point of view, it's confidence and optimism from their part.

I mean we live in a culture where the "positive" media, tell you to be "self-confident" (which spells for crazy if you ask me)

And thus the unwillingness to learn from the failure of others.

Title	I'd like to understand something.
Author	Glenn_Vatista
Upvotes	22
Comments	32
Date	July 30, 2019 8:08 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/cjonk1/id_like_to_understand_something/
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