I'm intrigued

jkarovskaya · 2017-07-23T16:37:58+00:00

We MGTOW are a very diverse group in age, background, vocation, wealth, and history with women.

You'll find some here who are just about in the RedPill camp completely, some in Monk mode, some are just angry as hell, and a whole lot of variants, and some that don't fit any category.

What nearly all of us have in common is that we are going our own way, meaning we just don't have time, interest, energy, or see any value in dating/LTR/, and especially marriage.

The 2nd and 3rd wave feminists have contributed to MGTOW because of false rape accusations, entitlement, and advocating the supremacy of women.

If you spend enough time reading here , and at the subreddit /r/MRA, you'll find hundreds of men that were badly burned, lost their life savings, can't see their children, and even stories of suicide

In many cultures, courts favor women, and women (in the USA for example) initiate divorce most of the time.

USA divorce proceedings are often incredibly unfair to men, up to and including forcing men to pay for KIDS THAT DNA HAS PROVEN ARE NOT THEIRS! And no, I am not making that up, read the story

http://abc7.com/news/court-man-who-isnt-father-of-child-still-owes-payments/2238479

Alocaco · 2017-07-23T17:08:42+00:00

Nice intro, but skipping to the questions:

I was wondering if you have a open mind to dating again?

Nope, and here's why. It is my humble opinion that the only purpose for dating is to find that one 'special person' to commit to in a relationship that will eventually result in marriage.

I mean sure, a person can date someone forever, and never marry, but what is the result? Sharing a home? Splitting resources and responsibilities, how is a long term relationship in that scenario any different than a childless marriage?

It is also my humble opinion that two people should only get married if they plan on raising children.

Note: I said raising children, not having children. Two people who want to raise children, but can't biologically have children, can easily adopt, I have no problem with that.

There is no benefit, at all, to get married if there are no children in the equation. New research finds that a lot of old myths about the health benefits of marriage are just that: myths. Single people are more prone to having more disposable income, and more singles means more homes being built (since more people live in their own caves) helping the overall economy. Add to that vehicle sales, electronics, food... Everything. Consumption goes up, sales increase, the economy improves. Historical evidence of this is a simple as looking at the increase of GDP as marriage is on the decline, even though wages have been stagnant, or even declining, for several years.

Single-dom is healthier, smarter, and makes the most economic sense, both personally, and socially.

What happens if you meet a female that you are really impressed with?

I have. My best friend of over 40 years is female. There is no desire from either one of us to go beyond that. She is aware of my feelings on relationships, and that the rewards are not worth the risks. She also agrees with that.

Men and women can leave whenever they want, and they tend to do just that. Current divorce rates prove this statement to be true.

If you really want to know what did the most damage to marriage, just look at the explosion of divorce rates since California passed the countries first 'no-fault' divorce laws. Once accountability was removed from ending a marriage, the institution was permanently damaged beyond repair.

Fun fact: the governor that signed the no-fault divorce law: Ronald Reagan. The patron saint of everything wholesome, traditional, and conservative.

Are you truly happy or do you at times feel the urge to have someone to share your life with?

Why do you feel these things are mutually exclusive?

I share my life with my friends, my family, my co-workers, and I'm single.

Please don't get mad I'm genuinely interested in knowing plus I have a son and hope he never gets hurt as I've read some on here have....thanks for reading this

No anger from me at all. Glad you stopped by.

801735 · 2017-07-23T16:31:11+00:00

Oh, hi.

Ok, I'll bite.

I was wondering if you have a open mind to dating again?

Sure. But it does not happen.

What happens if you meet a female that you are really impressed with?

Nothing happens.

Are you truly happy or do you at times feel the urge to have someone to share your life with?

No urges. The loner, the better. Less distractions.

Please don't get mad

I promise.

I have a son and hope he never gets hurt as I've read some on here have

Ok.

PabloEscoba · 2017-07-23T19:04:59+00:00

This is a male space. I do not care if u are intrigued or not.

Incapaisa · 2017-07-23T18:08:22+00:00

Let's look at your first marriage. 2 kids and it just don't work? Yet the next man you meet you marry in 3 weeks? Can you explain what didn't work? And why not try for the kids.

Now let's look at your first husband. After the divorce can he just find another woman and get married again? Financially I guess after child support and alimony his priority is survival Can you first husband be happy with his life knowing another man raised his children. How often did he see his kids? How often was he involved in their lives.

See we are mgtow due to the dangers of becoming your first husband. Family courts heavily biased towards woman thus the risk of starting a family are too high and many just don't want to play this rigged game.

Look it's nice things worked out for you in the end since you replaced your first husband but your post shows how disposable and replaceable we are.....hence mgtow

phreshstart · 2017-07-23T16:47:07+00:00

I was wondering if you have a open mind to dating again? What happens if you meet a female that you are really impressed with?

I'm in monk mode, I think that's self explanatory enough. I am happy in my solitude and I'm not willing to spend more time and money on another ungrateful life sucking thing.

We are not all the same, there are no rules for MGTOW. But we generally all agree that marriage is very bad for men.

nigelh · 2017-07-23T21:35:35+00:00

Please. We hope you're really happy.
Just understand that we are happy too.
You probably don't want to try hang gliding and I don't want to try relationships.
Let's just leave it at that.

Incapaisa · 2017-07-24T09:08:42+00:00

Thanks for replying. Sounds like a bad apple and as common woman even knowing "bad boy" still go ahead and make a bad choice of having kids with them. It really perplex my mind. Him being behind on child support shows he suffered thus I imagine handicapping his future relationships

But trust me some men are really good men and start families, get married yet thanks to no fault divorce woman file 70-80% thus making men a wage slave after child support, alimony and losing half of their assets. And most of these women cite just being "unhappy". Of course most have a back up or replacement man. It goes to show how replaceable and disposable men really are.

Now your 2nd husband as good as a man he may be still had to make sacrifices. I mean he comes in and right out of the gate he has to raise 2 other kids. Many men don't want that obligation but luckily your man did take that task.

1st husband with limited visitation has to see another man raise his kids while his check is garnished thus hurting his finances for 18+ years. Some dads get visitation on the weekend or even just twice a month. So imagine how difficult his life is and his relationship with his children.

2nd husband has to accept and raise 2 other children which is a noble thing and a huge sacrifice. Sounds like it worked out for you but many times step kids disrespect the new man with the line " you are not my daddy" and often are challenged with disciplinary challenges. Since god forbid they scream or hit those angel kids.

So when you are "intrigued" about mgtow look no further at the prospect of being husband number 1 or 2. Both challenging prospects.

When dating/marriage and relationships become a rigged game where woman hold all the cards and power many just stop playing the game and choose to walk away.

Happy things worked out for you on your end and thanks for sharing your story.

ur2clos2me · 2017-07-23T16:28:21+00:00

Also want to add my ex paid child support and my husband has never been obligated to pay or raise my first two, I never pushed anything, they got a lot of good qualities from there step dad, he has guided them their whole lives pretty much.

ur2clos2me · 2017-07-23T17:05:50+00:00

Sure you say that now. But what happens when say he gets hurt on the job and you have to take care of him? Or he gets overweight and not as attractive. Or for some reason even if it's in your head you feel spited, then you try to destroy him. You think he's wonderful now but it's when you don't think he's wonderful for whatever reason when the big problem begins. Things like this is when a woman's true nature comes out. When they won't act honorably, when they will get greedy, vengeful, throw away the man as fast as they can with no remorse. You say you haven't been manipulative but I guarantee you have been, it just came naturally for you and you didn't notice it, it may be more subtle but you probably didn't realize it and your man just didn't call you on it or make a big deal about it.

It's not that we feel all women are the Devil. But they will all act the same within their nature. There are varying degrees on that scale and things come out more or less depending on where they are in the relationship or how they feel about their guy. Right now you see your guy as the "chad". It's how you treat him when you don't see him in that light anymore. Also who makes more money in your relationship (be honest)? I'm betting he does. So already he's losing. Who gets the house designed the way they want it? I'm betting it's you. Who is emotionally supporting who more? When he sits there and has long conversations he probably doesn't even want to have but does it because it makes you happy. I'm betting he supports you more than you realize. You may not even realize how much he's sacrificing and giving up. I mean he's raising your two kids from the first marriage for gods sake. You are already way ahead and he's been a tool to you at the very least for that reason alone. He probably makes it easy for you in ways you don't even know. In your mind you probably see things as 50/50 but in reality it's more like 70/30 or worse. If he suddenly decided he wanted things to be 50/50 I'm betting you'd notice real fast, and freak out and would totally change how you view him. And then let's see how long you respect him and what your true nature is and your true motivation is. You are benefiting greatly from him right now. That's the problem we have, you are getting much more from him than he is getting from you. And we've seen it enough. We don't want to do that anymore. And god forbid if things went bad. And yes they can go bad very very fast. We've been through the very bad. We see how women can and do change on a dime and become as if pure evil. And the courts support that and screw the guy over every time. So it's not even worth the chance at all. It's just the sad reality. And we see and know that reality.

If a girl was interested in me right now? I'd be very cautious. But I don't throw money at them, shower them with attention, or try to look amazing and be fake like people do to please a woman. When I'd expect her to give as much as she takes it would never go anywhere because I can assure you she'd have none of that if she's not coming out ahead. It's always a losing game and the man will always lose more, I'm tired of losing more, losing my time, my energy, being forced to change, being manipulated, giving up who I am. We don't want it anymore. For men it's like running a 100 miles, in the blazing sun, pulling a huge giant cart of burden for a small cup of water. For us we don't want it anymore, it's not worth what we get back, it's not worth the price we pay.

ur2clos2me · 2017-07-23T17:34:24+00:00

You are also right about it not being 50/50 but you are wrong about him being a tool for raising my first two. He has there love and respect.They look up to him and they are lucky to have him enrich their lives.

Slaide · 2017-07-23T17:57:55+00:00

For every "incredible" "love" story like yours, there are 10 disaster stories of men being taken to the cleaners and too many of them ending their lives because the system is biased towards YOU women.

With all due respect, a $20k+ skydiving activity with a parachute that has a 10% of opening does not sound interesting.

Also, spare us the "ZOMG, WHO HURT YOU GUYS?!" part. We don't want your false empathy, and it's impressively idiotic to assume that most of us are MGTOW due to terrible, personal experiences. Many of us are just not stupid.

cashmoney_x · 2017-07-23T19:14:52+00:00

Here's the real shit- This "he is amazing in most ways and I couldn't imagine life without him" in reality does not mean what you/non mgtow people think it does. You express it like it's some romantic thing when in reality it's about him providing resources, security and comfort.

nemosolder · 2017-07-23T19:52:11+00:00

thanks for posting but i'm afraid it will fall on deaf ears around here. we are not really a group in the sense that anyone pays dues or that sort of thing.i for one got out of a bad marriage with my life.(never marry crazy) so i dated for a while and found to never date crazy. the women have set their standards so high that the ancient practice of "one man and one public wife" is not in the cards any more.so we went our own way

Chill-BL · 2017-07-23T21:17:30+00:00

I was wondering if you have a open mind to dating again?

Lets call it "dating". It's a concept, something we have named when a man and woman interacts with the idea of pursuit. The general idea is: "are you willing to deal with woman on an everyday basis". For me yeah sure, but only in my own way. This does not mean she has to adapt to me. She is in her own right to do what she wants. But hanging around me, means you are on my ship and I set the sails. Don't like where it's going get off, but don't complain, take my fish, decorate my boat with useless garbage. I know this is very egoistical. This is why I think I know I'm better of MGTOW. dealing only with the situations I want to deal with, and not some vague chase. In which "yes, maybe and no" can mean the same fucking thing.

apathworthwandering · 2017-07-24T05:27:48+00:00

What happened to the first husband? Probably child support and limited visitation.

Awalt

KingFuJulien · 2017-07-23T17:10:55+00:00

I was wondering if you have a open mind to dating again? => Online-Dating doesn't offer what I'm looking for, other kind of dating bores me, so I'm not interested.

What happens if you meet a female that you are really impressed with? => She gets observed and checked, that's it. No girl (irl) managed to impress me as much as my favorite car did. That's sad if you face it but on the other hand I'm happy, because I know what a girl should do, so I can call her a right one.

Are you truly happy or do you at times feel the urge to have someone to share your life with? => I'm happy and I prefer being alone.

Title	I'm intrigued
Author	ur2clos2me
Upvotes	1
Comments	31
Date	July 23, 2017 4:21 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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