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[–]fermentation-is-cool173 points174 points175 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I liked the new joker. Great acting from Joaquin.
[–]mkov8890 points91 points92 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Are you sure? He's a white male protagonist! Therefor his acting is awful! The media said so you know it's right!
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[–]lebogglez50 points51 points52 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They had to get a white male. Others aren't allowed to whiteface.
[–]fermentation-is-cool15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let’s be more positive. This place doesn’t have to be a gaggle of bitterness all of the time lol
[–]sassystuxnet[S] 56 points57 points58 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
He deserves an Oscar for his performance. Mind blowing.
[–]KaitouNala22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You and i both know wokeywood won't be willing to give him one if only for him being white.
But also have you seen the RT critics score? I mean we all know "critics" at this point are a joke but still, decent gauge for how the rest of hollyweird is at least publicly spoken (and probably worse in private)
[–]Tyler7892281 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
wokeywood
LOL
I will use that in the future. Thanks.
[–]KaitouNala3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like to parody SJW's and hollywood.
Other terms i use hollywierd, SJWierdos, Socialist Judgemental Weaklings.
[–]TripzeroPandD4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He gave one of the All - Time performances
[–]PabloAsscrowbar113 points114 points115 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Blue pill vs red pill
Blue pillers will think the joker is evil toxic masculinity
Red pillers know that the joker was created from the unfairness of society
There is a reason why Batman doesn't kill the Joker outright, cause even he knows the Joker exposes the underlying dark side of society
[–]Boines52 points53 points54 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Batman doesnt kill period for the most part... The joker isnt anything special there. Batman doesnt want to stoop to the moral level of the villains he stops.
[–]RosemanButcher1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, that was the only part. There's a reason why dc animations are far better than live action films. They understood the character. These Hollywood people just look up few popular comics and mix it all together.
Even in one episode(Epilogue), Amanda Waller confesses he's on the side of life and respects him for that. For those who don't know, she's one of the baddies.
And in one animation movie, he shortens his bat-ears just because some kid(he saves from fire) is terrified of the mask. Later he says to Supes "I'm in this to scare criminals, not people".
[–]Darth_Hamburger17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
There are also those of us who find people who obsess over the joker character as being very cringe. Red-pilled people who genuinely believe that the Joker has insightful (not I’m 14 and this is deep) social commentary are just as bad as the people who think that this movie is “dangerous”.
[–]Tittypookaka4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm perplexed as to why this was even posted un this sub.
[–]jhooperp4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Calm down it’s a movie and that’s what we’re supposed to do with good movies is analyze them.
Also look at film history: the truly great movie villains always had the “right” idea about society or life they just reacted to it in the wrong way. The hero doesn’t really question society and what is really wrong, he/she just protects and serves the law unless it’s needed for them to break some laws in order to serve the “good”. Whereas the villains either are the typical evil person who is selfish or the great villain who has had enough of unfairness or wrong and takes matters into own hands to right that wrong.
Also the hero in one movie would be the villain in another depending on which way the film decides to focus the story on. There isn’t any “real” villains in life (there’s exceptions to this of course but overall) and there isn’t any “good” hero’s either. It’s all in between.
Say bank robbers: they can be a villain especially if they kill someone during the robbery. Then take that very villain and frame the movie around them. Maybe that villain only robs banks owned by the person who took their parents land away threw illegal ways that they covered up and during the robbery when they had to shoot someone they didn’t have a choice as that person had a gun and it was them or they.
See my point?
[–]blvck_jvpitr52 points53 points54 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Joaquin Phoenix: The perfect representation of Joker before he became the Joker.
Heath Ledger: The perfect representation of Joker, as the Joker.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
That wasn't Heath that was demonic posession.
Most dont realize but MANY of Heath ledgers film choices, particularly the "odd" ones, were in pursuit of esoteric knowledge. He was a brilliant and talented actor, but his "joker" was so epic for a reason, we all witnessed full on demonic possesion on a theatre screen. Upon hearing if his death, Jack Nicholson, who played the joker in the burton batman said "well, I warned him" which in any context is a very odd response to learning of a fellow colleagues death. But jack knows, and jack knows we dont. The word drama comes from the greek "dromenon" which translates to "the thing done" and was used to describe rituals. thee original "actors" would don masks to make themselves look more like the demons they were summoning and the best actors were the ones who could be most fully possessed.
Most dont realize but MANY of Heath ledgers film choices, particularly the "odd" ones, were in pursuit of esoteric knowledge. He was a brilliant and talented actor, but his "joker" was so epic for a reason, we all witnessed full on demonic possesion on a theatre screen. Upon hearing if his death, Jack Nicholson, who played the joker in the burton batman said "well, I warned him" which in any context is a very odd response to learning of a fellow colleagues death. But jack knows, and jack knows we dont.
The word drama comes from the greek "dromenon" which translates to "the thing done" and was used to describe rituals. thee original "actors" would don masks to make themselves look more like the demons they were summoning and the best actors were the ones who could be most fully possessed.
Keanu Reeves also mentions it
I attempt to connect with my muse and go on demon rides. It's hard to act in the morning; the muses are not awake.
I attempt to connect with my muse and go on demon rides.
It's hard to act in the morning; the muses are not awake.
muse1 /mjuːz/ Learn to pronounce noun noun: Muse; plural noun: Muses; noun: muse; plural noun: muses
1. (in Greek and Roman mythology) each of nine goddesses, the daughters of Zeus and Mnemosyne, who preside over the arts and sciences. h Similar: inspiration creative influence stimulus stimulation afflatus 2. a person or personified force who is the source of inspiration for a creative artist. "Yeats' muse, Maud Gonne"
[–]MattFoley793 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the most fucked up thing I've read on this sub. Not saying you're wrong though.
[–]kubicas2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Demon possessions are bullshit. I'm Luciferian and Satanist. I live through symbol of the Lightbearer. Calling demons upon myself just opened my subconscious parts that I tried to hide from and suffered because of it. Check origins of word demon. Abrahamic religions are oppressing cults of death.
[–]Hang10Dude0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dumb.
[–]Ragingbovine70 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Drama does not have etmylogy meaning.
[–]savourtheflavor42 points43 points44 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The eat the rich theme in the current version dovetails into the Ledger Joker and makes the “its not about the money” scene more perfect 10 years later. Can’t wait to see Batman in this version of the story.
[–]DonnyTeflon15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t think we’ll get Batman in this story. Maybe a flash of a cape at the end of a third one...my hope is they turn Joker 2 into Godfather, I want to see him rise to be the criminal mastermind
[–]Mikeytikey1235 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not about the money. It's about -inhales salivally through mouth- sending a message.
[–]TheMnassri23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I hope more movies that show men's issues in a more bold way get made. Once companies find it's a profitable thing, it will spread.
[–]no_gal_friend5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
so. if movies that shows men's issues are very profitable and the movies that shows wymyn's issues are money-losers. So do you think HollyWood will get the clue?
[–]OnyxKnight123621 points22 points23 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I knew one day a man would say “I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE”
[–]Sumfuc9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
FALLING DOWN
[–]WaitingToBeTriggered0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
7734
[–]realChebz17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like new Joker over Heath Ledger one.
[–]You_reALittleBitch13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tbf it was sort of the same with Ledger's version, I think people just see it more clearly now
[–]redshieldheroz10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You should take the Carl Jung personality archetype test.
I took the test. And my dominant archetype is The Jester. Secondary archetype is The Wise Old Man.
Being the Jester. You see the comedy and joke of the world. The humor you see in the world play. The last thing you would do is to laugh at your life. If it becomes miserable. Your the jester, you know the comedy.
[–]sassystuxnet[S] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Will do
[–]U-949 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
1989: The Joker is a pimp gangster, banging his boss' girlfriend. Gets set up. Comes back. Kills boss. Dances to Prince.
Jack is the best.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hate how much Jack is overlooked now. He's tied with ledger for me as best ever. Phoenix joker a close 2nd. I mean. He's amazing. https://youtu.be/1oi_3qy1si4
[–]deathtocontrollers7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Most people don't understand that men have dreams, feelings, needs and desires etc... They aren't just stoic automatons who can just put up with shit all their lives because society says men should be that way... And men who see themselves like this and try to live this way, sooner or later, learn the hard way that they aren't just a machine, immune to everything... They eventually, reach a breaking point and commit suicide or turn into someone like The Joker. So if you make the environment, inhospitable for human beings when it comes to men... Then naturally, men are going to cease being human beings if they don't want to die. The only reason, most men aren't turning into super villains is because they are either deluded with blue pills or have no self esteem or they are sex addicts or became MGTOWs before they turned into someone like The Joker or moved to a part of the world, more hospitable before they turned into someone like The Joker and not all of their hobbies have been destroyed yet... But in many parts of the world, people demand the environment for men to not only remain as basic training for super villains but to force more effective training. That's just insane.
[–]no_gal_friend4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
so.. what happened between then and now?
[–]quietday3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I remember 2008 Joker burning a hangar full of money, which I interpreted as a critique of our psychopathic financial system.
[–]BryanSammis1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What goes around comes around🤔
[–]Remainselusive1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Guess which one the "critics" hate?
[–]cowboyfromhell3240 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haven't seen this, does he just get crapped on a bunch and snap?
[–]NavHf930 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
correct me if i am wrong , i do not think his a sociopath.. sociopaths are actually very friendly and sociable on the outside..
[–]BrokenBarbell2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Actually he is the very definition of a sociopath. Sociopaths become the way of experience, whereas psychopaths tend to develop their apathy at a young age.
[–]FridgeCape0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Saw it last night, absolutely amazing. I love the idea of society creating the joker, it takes the villain out of him and gives him some relatable humanity. I’d imagine if they do continue on (which I’m 100% sure they will), then Batman will be seen as the unfavourable character, which I think is amazing because he technically still will be the “hero”.
[–]psycrabbit0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm so unsure about this film people either love or hate it. You guys think it's worth seeing?
[–]sassystuxnet[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely. You won't regret watching it, one way or the other.
[–]RedpilledAesthetics-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The new movie ALONE is good. However, it’s not a joker movie, only a drama movie that sucks if you review it as a joker movie.
Society did not creat the newest joker. He’s just a guy with serious psychological problems that make him do stupid things. Too much hype on this movie
[–]faliure06-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We live in society
[–]jackstorm79-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Havent seen the newest joker so cant comment on him but the only joker I like is cesar romero's joker.
[–]NeverlandSpearo-3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Comic books, graphic novel, the movies developed from them and the characters contained therein are for weaklings and simps who need that alternate reality as an escape from their mundane, subservient lifestyles. Read and learn from history and non-fiction books, not this garbage. This is solely for the purpose of entertainment.
[–]csch650 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't agree. I read history/non-fiction and graphic novels, as well as many other genres. Escapism, in moderation, is no vice. Entertainment for entertainment's sake, in moderation, is no vice. Learning for learnings sake is to be lauded.
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