Sincere question

butbutbuttwhat · 2017-08-20T19:19:47+00:00

In a subreddit that talks about quitting drugs, naturally the subject of conversation is often going to at least partially revolve around "drugs".

0x123d · 2017-08-20T19:33:08+00:00

Congratulations, you're the 123484615148947964136th person to ask this

Silver-Noxx · 2017-08-20T19:37:17+00:00

Lots and lots of new guys discovering and becoming MGTOW. We have like a couple thousand a month or more I think? That's a lot of people. And they all have stories, real stories of why they are here and the horrible events they have gone through (or humorous) with women. They want to share and need to share. It's like that first day of AA and standing up and telling your story. Plus they stay in the anger phase of for a while as hey digest and understand all their past history with how women have acted or treated them and others.

Some it can be fascinating and funny once you figure women out and their true nature. You start seeing it all around you like the veil was lifted and the clouds parted. You want to share it. It keeps us all on the right path too, constant reminders. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it and all. Keeps our resolve up.

Sometimes it goes a bit to far though and can be toned down a bit. But it's also a place to release that built up tension and people need to get it out of their system. For decades you could never say a single negative word about women any place without being attacked. Now finally men can share their horrible experiences with women and we can all learn and teach each other with decades of knowledge.

Plus keep in mind, we all still have to interact and deal with women on daily basis. Some are also their Moms and sisters, step Moms, daughters, bosses, work partners etc. You can't escape them. And some guys still use women for sex and that is all. So women and how they behave is going to be talked about.

relevantretriever · 2017-08-20T19:22:15+00:00

I'm sure you really did your homework if you missed this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/5vo6si/to_those_who_say_i_came_here_to_see_exciting/

JayJayEcks · 2017-08-20T19:27:13+00:00

Please tell me, you are not this dense.

Men cannot escape the influence of women anywhere on this planet.

It is fact that women are the majority of the population.

Governments cater to women.

Blue-Pilled men, white knights, simps, pickup artists, thirsty incels and other manginas are ready to do battle and kill YOU for even pointing out the truth, making her face facts ultimately making a woman angry, so they can set up for the possibility of getting sex.

Women groups are always asking for more and more from taxes to power to rights to privileges.

Matriarchy is the definer of law in this current time.

Men catch more time for crime than women.

Men, routinely, lose a piece of their penis under the age of consent, male genital mutilation aka circumcision.

Women get carve outs legally as well as prosecutors and judges rarely ever throw the book at the ladies while men get beaten over the head with it for the exact same crime.

Men can be charged with crimes just for a woman having regret, years after the fact or be on the hook for child support, even when the kid is not biologically yours or if you didn't even sleep with her.

Marriage is the ultimate lose-lose business contract for every man.

Head on over to r/MensRights check my findings.

jkarovskaya · 2017-08-20T19:42:31+00:00

People aren't born knowing about Redpill and MGTOW. Men are at all stages of discovery, current relationship status!

Some are married, some single, some divorced, wide range of ages and experience here on this sub.

Relating RELEVANT EXPERIENCES AND EXAMPLES from real life is instructive, and helps everyone learn, respond, criticize, disagree, comment, or offer solutions.

That's part of the reason so many have threads on women, and what happened, or what is still happening.

Here's one of the most egregious examples of EXACTLY WHY Men are withdrawing from dating, relationships, and above all marriage.

Read this article, and just think about what the State of Texas is doing, and the fact that marriage is LITERALLY CHAINING THIS GUY to a situation that is a completely travesty of injustice.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/23/man-ordered-to-pay-65k-in-child-support-for-kid-who-isnt-his/

This is NOT AN ISOLATED, nor is it made up, and it's not The Onion.

THE GUY HAD A DNA test to prove he's not the father, and the court is still trying to force him to pay

CadeyrnDragheim · 2017-08-20T19:56:29+00:00

Simple. If women were actually good, truthful, logical and moral and not vapid branching thots, would there even be a reason for mgtow? If you could have what you wanted from a woman, to reproduce and spread your genes and she would never cheat and always nice and supportive, why would anyone NOT want that? You'd have the peace of mgtow with having a nice family too.

2QuietDude · 2017-08-20T20:14:10+00:00

This is a sub to vent and rip the gyno blinders off. Out in the real world I just focus on hobbies. No dating, wifing, simping.

mrk68 · 2017-08-20T19:30:34+00:00

There is more than one path to take with MGTOW. Some men continue limited relations with women, while others will go completely off-grid. The more knowledge a man has about what women are capable of, the better a man can decide which path is best for himself personally. The key is to have the knowledge to help make this critical life decision.

DangZagnut · 2017-08-20T19:38:24+00:00

A lot of TRP examples are out there. And a lot of new people come in all the time. So examples are posted of the reality of women, not the BP fantasy of women.

You see women being shallow, women living in fantasy land, women murdering their children.

Just telling someone about RP reality is more helpfully demonstrated through examples in reality so people lose the rose colored glasses that makes them think women are Disney princesses.

Xlasingx · 2017-08-20T19:55:23+00:00

your thoughts reasonable..

..though you need to understand where you are..

/u/relevantretriever has is right..

/r/MGTOW is this,

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/5vo6si/to_those_who_say_i_came_here_to_see_exciting/

you may be looking for this MGTOW direction,

https://www.reddit.com/r/GentlemenOnly/

some need time to red pill rage, before moving on..

some of us stay to help in this transition..

..as many desperately need the support, as i once did..

gods_bones · 2017-08-20T20:59:01+00:00

We talk about women as a way to hold a mirror up to society and show them that all this crap about female empowerment and how women are victims is a load of crap. Men are slave class, women are princess class. and finally the slaves are waking up to the lied of Fraudminism.

XxRandomguyxX · 2017-08-20T22:40:20+00:00

Because women are the reason we are MGTOW??

bhaga · 2017-08-20T20:03:27+00:00

Women are insanely deceptive and manipulative. The post published just before yours is about a man almost relapsing. Women are truly this manipulative that even a man well aware of their nature can get entrapped. It is therefore imperative that reminders of who the women truly are are in front of our eye non stop.

modabu · 2017-08-21T18:17:03+00:00

Fair questions. Let me take a shot at giving you an answer that I think many, if not most, of the guys here would agree with.

Q. ". . . why all the women threads? Why aren't you posting about your self-defined goals and stuff?"

A. Deceptive and duplicitous female nature is a major impediment to men achieving or even defining their goals. For men who have overcome the impediment and can now define their goals, sharing their stories and observations here is not only cathartic for them, it is instructional and beneficial for men who knew something was wrong, but have not yet overcome the impediment or defined their goals. Their search likely brought them here. Posting self-defined goals is fine. But discovering and defining those goals in impossible until the man gets past his confusion and depression over female nature. So, the woman threads are of enormous value in several respects.

Q. "Do women actively try to hinder you guys on your path to glory?"

A. Absolutely. And it is so much second nature to them that they can't help it; many of them aren't even aware of it. A woman's primary goal is to get a man to replace his hopes, dreams, and goals with her. It's about control. If a woman cannot control a man financially or socially, she will invariably go out of her way to disrupt him emotionally and psychologically by lying, crying, shit tests, mind games, gas lighting, and anything else that she knows his affection for her will make him vulnerable to.

Q. "Why even pay attention to today's so called feminism (or women in general)? Is it that powerful that it cant be ignored?"

A. "Yes, it is that powerful. And the fact that you are so unaware of it that you asked these questions illustrates how powerful. 24/7, movies, advertisements, magazines, television shows, and everything else that men have been exposed in the past 25 years present women in an unrealistic light, be it their intellectual power, physical ability, emotional depth, psychological resilience, etc. Objectively speaking, women are not, never have been, and never will be equal to men in any respect. That's just a natural fact. Feminist refuse to graciously accept that fact. Rather than create or accomplish something for themselves that they can enjoy and take pride in together, they would rather destroy what men have created. Why? If I can use an analogy, a psychotic second rate artist who had delusions of grandeur would rather throw acid on the Mona Lisa than spend the time and energy it would take him to become another Leonardo da Vinci.

Cheers to you.

nigelh · 2017-08-20T20:02:25+00:00

I don't know but it's getting worse.
I am finding my MGTOW life is expanding into all sorts of interesting and fun areas and yet here all we're getting is posts that are basically anti-woman jokes and most of them aren't very funny.
We all know AWALT. Show me you're new motorbike.

Title	Sincere question
Author	Drobniac
Upvotes	9
Comments	24
Date	August 20, 2017 7:12 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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