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[–]XbabyjeezusX123 points124 points125 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You forgot one... In jail/prison.
[–]markus_brutus68 points69 points70 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
With a drug problem.
[–]QuantumTheories_4240 points41 points42 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And is married already.
[–]ButteredPastry23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
problem
You misspelled business
[–]LiveTheTruth321-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And lots of tattoos
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[–]tornadoboy3320 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think this disparity of women only fucking total degens and top level men have to do with the implications of the AF/BB relationship. When you’re an unstable loser, a drug addict, etc. you’re not a risk of committing to them, you’re forever in the ‘just for fun’ category. When you’re at the top, you’re someone they look to lock down for resources. But when you’re towards the middle, you have to overcome the perception of Beta from the start, and even then you’re in the category of people they look to lock into the BB role.
LMK any thoughts
[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No problem! She will fix him, broken guys, bad boys, and criminals make them very wet. 💦
[–]Captain-Kill-A-Hoe29 points30 points31 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
*smacks lips* MOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[–]AllieImSorry23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can fix him though
[–]Red_Pill_Philosopher19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Women only want the high value guys for resources. She really wants the low value guys (aka bad boys) for sexual reasons and to take credit for the low value guy's accomplishments to feed her ego and to get attention from others.
The average guy doesn't stand a chance.
Average Guy: You aren't super rich to feed her materialistic lifestyle (high value) but you aren't fucked up enough where she can take credit for everything that you do (low value).
Everything revolves around attention and boosting her ego to impress her friends.
That's it.
[–]menonhisway 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hello sir.
I did not understand fully.
You mean she takes credit for the low value guys actions, in the way that she fixed him to take certain actions to improve his situation?
[–]Red_Pill_Philosopher1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes. You get it.
[–]menonhisway 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok thx
[–]TheUltimateThug15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wHo hUrT yOu?
[–]AKidWhoLikesFishing7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wait I know that guy, he’s me
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[–]amasiphoto 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😂
[–]stent003 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
is she preparing herself for chad?? washing her p***y
[–]PowaPunx1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She's soaking wet.
[–]CHENGhis-khan0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Butterfly valves leak when you blow out the boot.
[–]sergantfloop0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
puts on rain coat
I’m in the splash zoneee!
[–]LPerry962 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Tyrone is such a sweetie! Those two felony charges were just misunderstandings.”
[–]MGTOW_Veteran1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FACT!!!!!
[–]blind_sypher991 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because all of that other shit means RESPONSIBILITY, and we cant have that, can we?
[–]ExtremeChad1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
U guys do realize women like that are actually just women with daddy issues/don't really know how to pick men that well right?
[–]Sir_manalot6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You do realize that women whom blame daddy are just trying to avoid responsibility right?
It always has to be a man's fault.
[–]ExtremeChad-3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's generally psychological, girls who are attracted by the archetype shown in the picture. Their dad ran out on them, they were exposed to a bad crowd at school, and they just morphed into what u think of today. Many girls aren't like that however, and it is uncommon.
[–]Sir_manalot5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And how do you think that happened in the first place?
Because her mother was also attracted to a bad boy/deadbeat/criminal/etc that ended u treating the daughter like shit.
The thing with daddy issues and shit is that they are not the root cause. Women are just naturally attracted to dark triad men (there are legit studies on this if you are interested).
To he clear, when fathers had the final say in who there daughter ended up with, we didn't have daddy issues.
It was only after we let women be the sole pickers of who they mate with that single motherhood, deadbeat dads and such became an issue.
Because it doesn't matter how many men try to be good men if a large number of women (it is large) keep exclusively chasing trash.
It is also why good men are disappearing. As why would men try to be good when women ultimately treat good men like shit (they do and I am not talking about nice guys)? Aka if you cannot beat them, join them in practice.
Note: This doesn't excuse dark triad men nor am I deflecting responsibility here. I am just pointing out the root cause here and that it is a problem with personal responsibility we have (it just impacts women more because of men trying to buy sex by removing responsibility/agency from women's lives).
People just want to blame everything on a scapegoat to avoid taking responsibility because taking responsibility is hard (young white men are the current target).
But no matter how much we try to deflect responsibility, the consequences remain the same. And in the end, nothing is both easy and satisfying.
If we keep trying to remove responsibility from women whom make poor choices, they will end up more and more miserable (see the paradox of female happiness to see what I mean).
Just look at the spiking single motherhood rates and the mass mental disorders that women have these days. Despite women having more power then ever before, they are more miserable then any other group of women.
And we, as a society, are punishing and holding trashy men responsibile for there poor choices CES already (prison, child support, shame, etc). Yet the problem keeps getting worse even though we keep doubling down.
Responsibility is important. And until we hold women responsible and accountable for what they do, things will get worse (especially for them).
TLDR: my body, my choice, my responsibility.
[–]EfficientBadger0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's the rub people say they want freedom but very few understand the implications of what that means. Women wanted to be free they got it and now their miserable because they have to make decisions for themselves. Women enjoy living life on auto pilot with all the decisions made for them. It's like that quote from the godfather "women and children can be reckless but men cannot." because at the end of the day men will be blamed for everything.
[–]Ralphie733 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
AWALT
[–]tosin_da_glitch0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do you upvote twice?
[+]DetectiveBeluga-24 points-23 points-22 points 7 years ago (46 children) | Copy Link
Lol you guys are wacko. No shit some girls will go for that. Most girls do want someone intelligent who will treat them well. But they also want someone not a narcissistic pessimistic asshole with no social skills. Hmm, maybe the problem is you? 🤔
[–]ramfex2117 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
There’s a big difference between what girls say they want and what they actually pursue.
[+]DetectiveBeluga-12 points-11 points-10 points 7 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
I know this. The majority of women prefer what I said, if they're over the age of 18. You guys just want the 10/10 attractive women who are retarded because they get by on their looks. Those women only want the attractive, overly masculine, retarded men as well.
[–]glad2besad12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You guys just want the 10/10 attractive women
You just made this up to rationalize what you already believe.
[+]DetectiveBeluga-12 points-11 points-10 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Nah not really. I know plenty people like you. You don't take care of yourselves and you lack social skills, and you wonder why women don't want you. If you just fix your attitude and basic hygiene, you will be fine. Not everyone can have the movie star girls, so stop chasing them. They're not even close to worth it.
[–]glad2besad13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Okay smart ass let’s break this down.
People like you aren’t interested in having a real conversation or argument, do not care about the truth, and have nothing valuable say. You just post in subreddits you know nothing about with a smug little face thinking “I’m gonna get these bitter little incel women haters hehehe”. I welcome anyone who wants to debate using reasonable arguments and facts.
[–]Deal_Real9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
. You don't take care of yourselves and you lack social skills, and you wonder why women don't want you. If you just fix your attitude and basic hygiene, you will be fine.
Wow, apparently this dude thinks he knows all of the 108k people on the subreddit? Fuck off with your shitty assumptions, most people here have social skills enough to get a gf or a wife, but cant find a suitable match because there are only a few, majority of them are thots imma be honest.
Not everyone can have the movie star girls, so stop chasing them.
Thats fine, but most just want a normal girl, also how do you know what we want and dont want? I havent ever met you, neither 108k people probably have. Its even funnier, because we got 3s and 4s chasing 10/10 males but not the other way around, I wonder which gender lacks self-awareness? Majority of the men are having to deal with entitled wahmen who are atleast 1 or 2 below their grade, and most of them are thots, so I legit have no interest in this shitty market.
[–]Sir_manalot8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
We do not want any women, including a 10/10 one or whatever. A large percentage of us have even been divorced atleast once.
You can make shit up about us to try to avoid the truth of what we say, but you only do that because you cannot prove us wrong.
[–]DetectiveBeluga-5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to remain single. But when it comes from misogynistic places like shown in this post, you do want women (did), but you've convinced yourselves that you'll never be able to have one so you have given up and accepted your fate.
It's fine to be single forever, really it is. But it's not okay to hate women because you can't get any to like you.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
It’s easy to ‘have’ a woman (it’s interesting that you use the possessive whilst claiming to not be a sexist...). I’ve previously BEEN, SHARED with women. Is that what you mean, or are you simply a sexist?
[–]DetectiveBeluga-3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You can have a girlfriend, you can have a man. It's not sexist, quit yo shit.
[–]Martie998 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
DetectiveBeluga in a nutshell: WhO hUrT yUuu!?!?
[–]DetectiveBeluga-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So you are allowed to level baseless accusations on the internet, but when others do they need to ‘quit yo shit’ (what a childish manner of expression you have).
I think if you want to virtue-signal your right-on woke piety you need to think about the language you use. I’m not the one pretending to be something I’m not.
[–]DetectiveBeluga-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No, you are just projecting your sexism. "Having" a girlfriend is not sexist. It's used both ways, it's just a term. Good try though.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You haven't answered any of my other points. Quite telling. You should really go and learn a bit about 'projection', because it seems to be an oft cited psychological term, but generally the people who use it simply saw someone else say it on Reddit. Similar to how Dunning-Kruger wasn't mentioned a year ago and now everyone cites it constantly. Group-think.
Do you think over 100,000 people are the same? Do you think that everyone, in a group of 100,000 people, will feel and think the same way?
You are your fellow political travellers really do believe in group-think don't you :p. I guess it's easier than engaging with the realities of the pathetic clown-world you have created.
[–]DetectiveBeluga1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yikes. Yes, 100,000 people can have the same viewpoint. Never said you're the same person, but you can all think the same way about one particular thing, yes. Duh. Groupthink is literally what you guys are doing to yourselves here in your sub. You really just like to describe yourself huh. Yeah, I can't even go through all the rest of the ridiculousness you just spat at me. You just need to try to quit blaming the world for doing you dirty rather than thinking "Hmm, if more than half the population are the antagonists of my life here, maybe I'm the problem."
I already know I'm not going to convince you, not a chance. But hopefully some people reading this will recognize the flaws in mgtow. Who knows.
[–][deleted]1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You haven’t spent long enough in the sub then. All manner of open discussions and viewpoints here.
I’m not a perfect partner. No one is. But you have deployed yet another thoughtless cliche in the ‘maybe you are the problem’ line. I will happily accept 50% of the blame for the failure of my previous relationships. I never said otherwise.
No you will not convince me. If others are so convinced that is of course up to them.
[–]tchower1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ve fucked 10’s and 7’s and they’re not much different. It’s just the 10’s tend to have a lot more men simping out of their minds over them and they always would show me the texts they sent and make fun of them. When I went to visit my brother in prison I i couldn’t believe all the hot girls in that place. My brother’s obviously a chad but he also doesn’t give a shit about being metoo’d either, but I gotta get damn good at martial arts and MMA if I’m gonna take a group of white knights in prison if I ever get a false metoo accusation.
[–]DT17268 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Most girls do want someone intelligent who will treat them well.
No, as their hypergamous nature dictates. They will want the best man they can possibly get. This also mean if an asshole goes and treats them like shit, they will think that asshole is above them and will do their best to get him.
Intelligent and treat them well. Yeah sure, he's intelligent enough to know how to treat them right.
https://i.redd.it/2ci850jos81y.jpg
[–]DetectiveBeluga0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Sure, if they're in high school lol. It's okay, once you grow up you might meet some women that appreciate a non-emotionally abusive relationship, so long as you change your poor mindset at least a little bit.
A lot of women do in fact want a "dominant" man who they can follow and let make decisions. This is not the same as treating them like shit.
[–]DT17267 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
https://i.imgur.com/lOu3Vhj.jpg
That doesn't seem so high school to me.
Sure, if they're in high school lol. It's okay
Women aren't men remember that, their best fertile years range from 20~30. After that only the wall waiting for them and they'd be desperate for a nice beta husband. Not because they've matured enough, because they can't handle being alone.
You think them riding the cock carousel is fine? Sure, go give it a try https://www.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/6px01x/why_does_a_high_female_ncount_damage_pair_bonding/
[–]DetectiveBeluga-4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Ugh, it's hard trying to help delusional people.
They aren't men. Which means they look for different things in their partners than men do. But they're not any more biologically programmed to be polyamorous than men are. Are you really trying to argue that women have a harder time being with only one person than men do? Or am I misunderstanding your comment.
You are incorrect. You're looking at random anecdotes like the Call Me Maybe guy. Studies have shown that the least attractive women on dating services get the same amount of attention as the most attractive men.
[–]DT17267 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
There are really thirsty simps out there.
Either way, that's all I can say to you. It's best that you go and experience yourself, good luck.
[–]DetectiveBeluga-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I'm good, I have a life partner already, but thanks.
Inb4 she will cheat on you and ride the "dick carousel." Lol.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Lots of divorced men, and indeed, divorced women, thought they had a ‘life partner’.
I hope it works out for you but from the sounds of it you take it for granted. Which doesn’t bode well for the longevity of this lifetime partnership.
[–]DetectiveBeluga-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I take it for granted? Not even close. She's the best thing to ever happen to me and I feel very lucky. What part of my comments give you that impression?
[–]Martie993 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It will be absolutely hilarious when she divorce rapes you and you realize that you've been the delusional one all along
Yeah can't wait 👌
That's a real good mindset to have there bro
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You said ‘life partner’. Plenty of people, male and female, thought they had a partner for life. The divorce statistics don’t lie though.
Why are you here? Go outside, enjoy your life, be with this person who enriches your life so. Stop arguing with strangers on the internet. You are making a fool of yourself.
She's away for now, otherwise I would be. We spend almost all our time together. I'm trying to make you guys see the holes in your logic, and that you need to change your own attitudes rather than blame women. But you're right, it's probably useless. It just makes me sad because I was almost one of you. And the only thing preventing some of my close friends from going down this spiral is having us that keeps them sane. So I know it can work. But I probably came across too hostile for it to work for strangers this time, you're right, that's fair.
What 'attitudes'? I do not want a woman in my life. I'm not 'blaming' them for anything. I just see their true nature. I don't need you to be sad for me. I'm most likely a lot older than you. I don't want to make 'it' work. I've had plenty of experience with women. They're self-centred, disloyal, and utterly self-serving. Every time I have allowed one into my life, it has become appreciably worse. I imagine you will also blame this on me :p. Because everything in this society is blamed on men (whilst many work their balls off to hold it up on their shoulders).
You aren't saving anyone. I've saved myself. My life has been so much better since I removed women from it.
You are blaming women. You're telling me that 100,000 people on this subreddit are all vastly different creatures, but you're saying every single woman is scum by nature. That's pretty hypocritical, for one. You're no different from the women who say all men are cheating pigs because they picked the same type of 5 guys that will treat them like shit. You're generalizing because of your bad experience. You lack self awareness.
Yes I suppose that could be seen as hypocritical. However I never said all women are scum. You persistently put words in my mouth so you can argue with a phantom.
"They're self centered, unloyal, and utterly self serving."
I shortened that to just "scum."
I may use this in future :p.
Reminds me of the SCUM manifesto. 'The Society for Cutting Up Men'.
Feminism always shows its true colours.
[–]Sir_manalot4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You think 20-25 year old women are high school level?
You must really hate women.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Indeed they talk about ‘having’ a woman. They are a sexist at the very least.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
This is the issue with people like yourself. Rather than engaging with the issue all you want to do is call people names. And stereotype anyone who doesn’t conform to your agenda as ‘fat, smelly, anti-social’ etc.
I have lived with two women. I have had 7 girlfriends. I am slim and fit. I do not smoke, and take regular exercise. I have a fairly good career I enjoy which comes with financial stability. I have my own apartment and my own vehicle. I have an active social life and many hobbies.
I am not an outlier here at MGTOW. I am usual, normal.
But rather than engage with the issues raised, you simply name-call and abuse. It’s not intelligent nor is it respectable.
What you don’t seem to understand is this. We don’t want women any more. We are sick of them.
You clearly have no understanding of the issue nor do you want to have any understanding. You are simply here to abuse people that have not conformed to your world view.
Personally I am grateful for people like you. That subscription number keeps on going up, and it’s thanks to you 🙂. Thank you very much for your support and assistance in setting men free.
[–]DetectiveBeluga-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
"You are simply here to abuse people and name-call and insult"
Says the people posting misogynistic posts on the daily on this sub. Lol
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You are the one who talked about ‘having’ a woman. As in to own, possess.
Your language gives you away.
Keep calling people you disagree with names. We are winning 🙂.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes, it is. Stop saying 'projection'. It doesn't mean anything in this context. I know I am a sexist. I'm not hiding anything. I do not respect women. I do not value women. To project I would have to be hiding from this part of my nature. I am not.
I have plenty of self-awareness. I know exactly what I am. And I'm not ashamed. If you and yours want to convince people, you need to stop abusing them. You aren't going to bully anyone into anything.
All I've done is use typical Feminist rhetoric against you. They would accuse you of being a sexist for saying you 'have' a girlfriend. Do you see how easy it is to fall foul of this ideology? You think you are their ally, they would throw you under the bus in a heart-beat.
[–]Deal_Real2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But they also want someone not a narcissistic pessimistic asshole with no social skills. Hmm, maybe the problem is you? 🤔
Apparently 108k people are all narcissistic pessimistic assholes but the thots on social media who are legit giving their bodies away arent? Wake tf and look around you.
[–]DetectiveBeluga0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, both are. Those "thots" are not worth the chase either.
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