The future.

nice_and_friendly · 2016-04-13T05:18:29+00:00

its not going to change.. it is the way things should be. men struggling and perpetually competing is part of the natural balance. the bigger issue with feminism is women trying to reap all of the benefits of those struggles without actually taking any of the risks. yes its bad right now. but its really just a massive scale shit test. how we all choose to respond to it puts a beacon on the losers. just refuse to participate in all that. instead of trying to change it, embrace your struggle instead. the capacity to do that and thrive on it is what makes you a man and seperates you from the women and the losers.

Greetings1 · 2016-04-13T11:47:11+00:00

There will be no change. Look at the bright side of feminism. It has freed you from traditional male responsibility for women's actions.

648262 · 2016-04-13T08:11:16+00:00

I doubt it. In these subs we frequent we tend to overestimate the negative effects of a feminist society.

victor_knight · 2016-04-13T09:45:38+00:00

At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I suspect that society is the way it is because the powers that be got scared to death about "overpopulation" and realized that the "empowerment" of women (i.e. feminism) was one way to solve this problem. The irony is, they didn't realize it would create the "necessity" of introducing the "migrant problem" to deal with declining birthrates.

mrp_1844 · 2016-04-13T14:24:54+00:00

It is changing. Search Youtube for "MGTOW" . I am shocked how many different videos there are. I am also amazed when I hear redpill terms in mainstream media. Alpha, Beta, and more.

There is a global awaking.

It just takes time.

thrownaway_MGTOW · 2016-04-13T18:28:05+00:00

Do you guys ever think society will look back at this time period and think, as an example, "Those were the feminist years, son. You are so lucky that you weren't around when this was going on strong."

No... it's going to be a "mixed bag" in terms of the "...that you weren't around when..."

Because the end result of the current "path" western societies are on... is collapse. As in "Fall of Rome" transforming the once great and high advanced nations into the equivalent of third world shitholes.

And the "you weren't around when" will most often focus on the things that we currently enjoy, but which are very fragile, and which will almost certainly be lost; so "you weren't around when":

"...when all we had to do to have light was flip a switch on the wall.. there was basically unlimited electric power available to everyone and it was so ridiculously cheap and pervasive that everyone just took it for granted."

or

"...when people didn't have to pump & haul water by hand, they had it piped right into their houses; even had 'hot' water on tap, just turn a knob..."

Or again

"...when almost nobody walked, just about everyone had their own 'machine' to transport them... that's why all those roads are, or were, built so wide, it wasn't so people could walk side-by-side, it was because they needed room for vehicles, there were so many vehicles that they they would be going both ways almost all the time, and so needed to make the roads twice as wide as the vehicle."

Or things like:

"..when... well, you know how your little brother died after he got that cut & infection and the fever that followed? Well they used to have these pills -- tiny little things called 'antibiologics' (or something like that) -- and just taking a couple of those for a few days would have cured & saved him."*

Not to mention:

"...when there was this magical 'net-working' thing called the 'innertubes' that somehow connected-everything with tube-wirey things and they could pass information back and forth over it, even books and mobile pictures -- some people say they could even send the stuff through the air, though I don't reckon how that could be, I mean can you imagine a whole 'net' of tubes in the air?"

The point being that the present level of technology and affluence that allows widespread and wide-ranging travel and access to an insane amount of information "at your fingertips" is very likely NOT going to continue -- and the people who grow up in that future are NOT going to know all of the details of everything that went on now -- in fact the vast majority of what we know will almost certainly end up being lost; and probably within a matter of a few generations*

If you don't comprehend how that could happen, how easily it could happen -- then I'd move that you comprehend far less of ACTUAL history than you think; and indeed you comprehend far less of our CURRENT world than you believe either. (Cf Detroit, Jo'burg, etc).

Because the collapse of "advanced" societies & civilizations is the norm -- the "rule" is you will -- and usually they are destroyed from within, they are generally NOT conquered, rather they implode & collapse.

People talk about nature & the "natural environment" as something that is "fragile" -- but actually nature is very robust, it can survive and adapt to virtually anything (from volcanoes to massive comet impacts) -- it is human civilization and technology that is actually "fragile" and "ephemeral"; nature has no problem "reclaiming" it (and doesn't give a shit whether the lines are straight or not; moreover it can reclaim just about anything & everything in fairly short order, and our "modern" world is really no different -- we delude ourselves if we think otherwise.

* We very quickly are losing access to info even from just a few decades back; virtually everything "digital" from the present era will in the very near future likely become inaccessible -- what after all would YOU do to access some 1970's era 8" floppy disk that someone handed you today? If your iPhone stops working, could you fix it? How and with what? Likewise, if your DVD reader/player quit working and you couldn't simply go buy a new one, how would you access any of the info on the DVD disks?

FrostyGoingHisOwnWay · 2016-04-15T10:08:23+00:00

Hard to say for sure but I'm not very hopeful, do a lot of reading about human nature and biology, a lot of these issues stem from fundamental differences between men and women, women being hypergamous, having a natural in group preference for gender where as men have a natural out group preference.

Look to Japan if you want a good predictor of the future, they have a massive de-population issue because men are walking away from the traditional salaryman role, working soul crushing hours to bring home a wage which you hand to your wife for her to hand you back an allowance, modern Japanese men have just walked away from it all, they're called herbivore men (grass eaters). They have a tiny birth rate which is way below replacement rate, their population is set to drop by 1/3rd by 2060, it's not hyperbolic to say that unless they reverse that birth rate problem, the society will simply end.

If anything changes it will have to be generational changes so we're talking about something that'll never exist in our time which is why MGTOW is better solution for men than trying to advocate change for anything, things like the MRM is all nice and well, but I don't think it will benefit any of us so the question becomes, why bother? Trying to change things that take generations to change is only worth the effort if you care about the outcome and I'd argue that the only possible reason you'd care in principle, is if you intended to have children and you cared for the state of the world they grow into. But MGTOW aren't going to have children, so really that's a catch 22 situation.

I'd argue anyone selflessly fighting to be part of a larger solution long term with no benefit to themselves is wasting their time. This in my opinion is the essence of why we opt out rather than run to the MRM.

Morranaii · 2016-04-13T12:53:13+00:00

https://redmalehummingbird.wordpress.com/2016/01/07/puppet-masters/ nooope

oldredder · 2016-04-14T08:09:07+00:00

No. Society will burn, it will be a new dark ages and when a new civilization starts it will ask the same questions we ask of the dark ages in Europe. Many won't know what questions to ask and everyone alive now will have no idea what it was really like watching it all collapse.

User-31f64a4e · 2016-04-13T15:30:20+00:00

Feminism is gynocentrism made political by women voting, and gynocentrism is hard wired.

One the other hand, we were always gynocentric. Traditionalism was gynocentric, as the luminaries of youtube MGTOW (Stardusk, Barbarossaaa, TFM, Karen Straughn, etc.) have pointed out time and again. Still, as recently as the 70's, female nature was much better understood. Watch old black and white movies. Watch film noir - can you imagine the reaction if they tried to make one of those now! So back in the day female nature was understood. Everyone would have agreed with the saying that a women is 'the most responsible teenager in the house'. Society was always about the needs and protection of women and children, BUT, it didn't let them call the shots or block honest conversation. It also offered a much fairer deal for men; this used to be the basis of marriage, a balance between male and female reproductive strategies.

So imho the question isn't really "When will we get fairness or equality" because that will never happen. The question is "When can society give women and children extra priority without an overly heavy burden on men."

Not right, not fair, not just, not many many different concepts. But, in keeping with human instincts, which prioritize women.

I am afraid that's probably the best we will be able to do. I would of course prefer more, but I am realistic.

verynormalsimple · 2016-04-13T16:20:11+00:00

I've never been thrilled about the future, from where I stand things are going downhill and you don't see the end of it any soon.

Trump_is_my_Daddy · 2016-04-13T12:31:46+00:00

No.

Pussy > Dick and balls.

One way or another.

mutageno · 2016-04-13T23:10:11+00:00

It won't matter as much because there are bigger issues in the horizon:

No jobs (Humans need not apply)
Population pyramid inverting in most of the developed and half-developed world, too many people on pensions
Health costs skyrocketing due to obesity epidemic, worldwide
Idiocracy-styled backward-evolution, with a lot of crazy religion fueling it
Moral dilemmas like Western Europe is facing with predatory migrants
World polulation still growing because speed bumps were removed (mostly vaccinations) without matching planned parenthood (even SJW Guardian had to admit it)
Peak phosphorous
Fishing reserves running out worldwide
Youth unemployment growing worldwide (think Arab Spring, but worldwide)

Unless some technological miracle comes around to save us, we are heading to a Cyberpunk dystopia.

The canaries in the coal mine to watch out are:

Japan (SJW taxation and pensions + inverted social pyramid)
South Africa (open the floodgates without direction)
Israel (if even they fail to contain with their brutal regime, no matter if it's right or not, there is no hope against Islam)
Greece (youth unemployment + destroyed economy + inverted population)
Sweden (SJW and feminism out of control, opened floodgates)

aanarchist · 2016-04-16T04:38:24+00:00

i plan on traversing the capital wasteland and eventually run into willow.

The future.

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Title	The future.
Author	NukaColaCaps
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Date	April 13, 2016 5:12 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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