This sub makes some valid points and has an admirable self-improvement/independence philosophy, but the tendency towards unconditionally generalizing all women is unwholesome and ruins it all.

bookworm669 · 2017-12-13T16:54:37+00:00

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DocHolliday226 · 2017-12-13T16:48:33+00:00

AWALT. If there is one universal truth in the universe it's AWALT. Or at the very least EWALT (enough women are like that)

ZebChristov · 2017-12-13T17:00:53+00:00

Men who do bad things get punished.

Women who do bad things are coddled, praised, protected.

That is fundamentally unjust.

It doesn't matter if all women are like that or not because as long as the laws and social structures allow women to get away with doing bad things, there will be enough bad women who will take advantage.

So yes, all women are like that, until proven otherwise; so far, too few exception in my experience.

SmilingTroublemaker7 · 2017-12-13T16:58:12+00:00

This sub is about men with testicles big enough to say "fuck it, I'm doing the heck I want with my life", nothing else... We don't teach anyone here about hating woman's, but you see most of these fine gentleman's here, where pushed by woman to this way of thinking. There is no tendency here... only victims, or friends of victims, man who don't want to be victims, and most importantly, man's going their own way.

exit-stage-right2 · 2017-12-13T17:02:07+00:00

Bro, it's M&Ms. if you have a bowl of 100 M&Ms and 75 of those are deadly poison, are you going to start munching on them. Or maybe just throw them out and get something else for a snack.

Furthermore, you have to see the rule of Law and the power given to women. What powers are given to men to keep the playing field leveled? I guess you like the idea of a woman having the ability to completely destroy you for no decent reason. I will not risk my accumulated wealth, completely based on a female's loyalty.

silive · 2017-12-13T17:14:46+00:00

Briffault's law of biology which governs the female behavior and from which NO WOMAN is an exception (aka AWALT) combined with the geocentric society (i.e. biased laws and Family "courts" openly serving the females), make ALL women unsuitable partners and with no exceptions. You can bitch all you want about "men can be bad to, you know?" but it changes absolutely nothing (lookup "strawman"). Case closed & sorry for offending your sensibilities (not really).

UglyPrince2000 · 2017-12-13T16:42:55+00:00

NAH, fuck you!

Marque01 · 2017-12-13T16:45:00+00:00

Can you give us an example of a NAWALT? Like, one with an actual link to an article, not just 'well I know a woman and she's not like that'?

lostapwbm · 2017-12-13T17:09:04+00:00

A lot of you are the male equivalents of the feminists you resent.

Interesting. And if feminists are the exemplars of 'equality' and 'rights' and wisdom they claim to be, what is wrong with emulating their tactics? If feminists are wrong in their tactics or their goals, then shouldn't your criticism be aimed at feminists who are engaging in bad tactics and/or are pursuing bad goals who have far more political and social power than MGTOW?

Your statement only serves the purpose you seem to want it to (shame men into not criticizing women) if I accept the implication that I must adhere to a different or stricter standard of conduct than the person I oppose.

I do not accept the implication.

If generalizations of men are good for women, then generalizations of women must be good for men. After all, are we not EQUAL?

There are perfectly decent human beings that happen to possess the female form out there.

Maybe.

Perrero · 2017-12-13T16:49:06+00:00

Don't take the generalizations too literally. There are good women of course, but unless you can read minds you won't be able to tell who is genuine and who is a chameleon, so it's better to ignore all of them.

And about us being like the feminists, I rather you go and tell the feminists that they are like MGTOWs and see how that goes. Why is it always the onus on men to do better than their counterparts and the same standard is not applied to women?

2017-12-13T17:06:32+00:00

I dont like to generalize too, but if im seeing very bad behavior even from one,and its saying how much they are capable. like husband did everything that woman doesnt want to do, work his ass off, clean the house, give her respect, and she left him for another man without no reason at all.

i dont mean like 1 in 10000 that can be serial killer or something like,much more.

the ethics level of woman is so low, and i heard many stories of man are lefted broken and deeply depressed, even in religious people, its just make me conclude: dont waste time of try to understand or risk it if this woman is unicorn, cos the chance of her going rouge and losing everything is very high, and for what for marriage ? most older saying its bs

rtmlex · 2017-12-13T17:14:25+00:00

Sol_Install · 2017-12-13T17:38:19+00:00

You're wrong. There is not a lack of empathy. I have never seen a post on here showing complete indifference to women who have been seriously beaten, raped, injured, etc. Nor is there this growing mentality of women being evil. If a woman gets hit by a car, I'd wager most guys on here would show some degree of concern. I doubt they'll touch her because of the fear of having their lives destroyed.

What is prevalent is AWALT. Meaning that women will act in their own best interests above all else and even to the determent of men, children, and other women. AWALT does not mean all women are evil. A woman who pretends to love a man and chameleon shifts to match him is an AWALT. If your mother didn't tell you anything about females thus leaving you fully vulnerable, that's AWALT. Women who lie about rape and thus discredit actual rape victims? AWALT. If you're being told to sacrifice more, being blamed for everything, work harder to please a female? AWALT. If you're expected to fend for yourself, yet step in to help a female that wouldn't help you? AWALT.

If she blames you the for failure of your relationship or her cheating while you know you were good to her? AWALT. If she loses her shit about either you wanting a pre nup or not caring for marriage? AWALT. Fucks higher ranked men for benefits? AWALT. Fucks her teachers to pass a class? AWALT. If you tell a woman the truth, it hurts her feelings and she gets too emotional? AWALT. If you lie to a fat woman and tell her she looks great in order to spare her feelings? AWALT. Body positivity? HAES? It's lying to women's faces to make them feel good about themselves so their feelings don't get hurt. AWALT.

At best, the man is ignored completely, at worse his life is ruined/he kills himself. You can point out men being corrupt, starting wars, using male lives as an expendable resource, etc. But remember, men have no issues calling out the evils of men. Do that to women and there will always be a backlash. Men are punished harshly for their wrongdoings yet women are not. Many women in fact support this double standard. AWALT.

MarketGiraffe · 2017-12-13T17:46:30+00:00

i was like that before, but I grew out of it. The hatred flows through from time to time but nowadays i've mellowed out and have just been focusing on fitness, money, and improving my self esteem.

tiredofshit · 2017-12-13T17:47:10+00:00

Claims to be a bookworm and doesn't even read the fucking rules before posting. You're violating 6,7 and 8 just off the top of my head. Actually just about all of them.

-Asceticmonk- · 2017-12-13T18:36:49+00:00

this is a woman. she doesn't belong here.

davebrain · 2017-12-13T17:48:14+00:00

There are no decent females except those above 65 because they don't learn empathy for males until they see their sons going MGTOW and pester them to get married and get told how the world actually works over and over and finally see it for themselves in their old age. All other females are self absorbed cunts who don't care that they are destroying society and whose one and only hobby is dismissing and making fun of males. So go fuck yourself lady.

KeyHoleJesus · 2017-12-13T17:07:49+00:00

Seems there are two kinds of MGTOW. The AWALT and NAWALT camps. There are so many factors that push women to be like that, its unrealistic to think someone wouldn't be effected by the world we live in. Maybe its more a matter of degrees, but regardless, the argument I see often from AWALTers is even if you find a unicorn today, she wont stay that way forever.

aanarchist · 2017-12-13T17:09:38+00:00

I happen to know one of those women but she found her husband at 19. I'm actually good friends with the guy. Rare exceptions to not exempt the rule my friend.

ThrowawayGhostGuy1 · 2017-12-13T19:03:41+00:00

Women cluster around the median. It’s more accurate generalizing women than men.

rovad_ · 2017-12-13T16:48:21+00:00

Absolutely. Its only the unaware dudes that actively hate women. The rational ones understand that their sexual strategy is simply rooted in their nature, much like a cows nature is to moo. Once you realize this, that anger is foolish and unproductive. These misogunist views are really just coming from the guys coping with being unattractive or being divorce raped. For all the peace that some of these guys claim to have, they sure dont show it in their views on women.

Title	This sub makes some valid points and has an admirable self-improvement/independence philosophy, but the tendency towards unconditionally generalizing all women is unwholesome and ruins it all.
Author	bookworm669
Upvotes	0
Comments	42
Date	December 13, 2017 4:39 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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