Transgenders

Ricky584 · 2019-10-15T20:23:36+00:00

I look at it as a form of mental illness.

Marque01 · 2019-10-15T20:36:54+00:00

You have to be 18-21 to drink. 18 to vote or join the military. 16 to drive but you can cut your dick off at 7.

Ya. I'm going with mental illness too

Diogeneplz1 · 2019-10-15T20:30:30+00:00

I think it's a mental illness. Transgenderism would never exist in a healthy society or if you raised somebody in isolation. They'd never think that there body was wrong. It's a body dysmorphic disorder similar to anorexia. Anorexia only exists within unhealthy cultures.

battyryder · 2019-10-15T20:35:11+00:00

I'm going to go with 'mental illness'.

Demonic_humor · 2019-10-15T20:35:43+00:00

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seenoevil-taway · 2019-10-15T20:38:39+00:00

I wish I didn’t have to care because I don’t. However, if you just ignore it, they will keep pushing their agenda, like feminist did, pushing our boundaries. Dont ask me to refer to them by new pronouns or change anything I’m doing now. I will treat them with respect, and won’t discriminate.

I don’t agree with them transitioning of children and I do think it is just a mental and hormonal problem.

As far as treatment, I would just say, follow what we learn from the science, educate them early and allow them to make their own decisions. There is not much you can do with psychological issues.

rmullen1282 · 2019-10-15T21:44:27+00:00

Mental illness. It's like telling someone with scizophrenia the voices in their head are real.

Jaegendar · 2019-10-15T20:41:25+00:00

Noone speaks for Mgtow. Because its simply men doing what is best for them.

My personal opinion on trannys is that they came to be because of people wanting to feel accepted in a way.

You have a guy that is bombarded with ideas that “men are evil”, he gets convinced of this nonsense and then sees women getting all the preferencial “goddess” treatment. Its logical in a way that he wants to stop being a man and “transition” into something else.

On the reverse, women get bombarded with the idea of the patriarchy and men having all the power, if they are susceptible enough and there is enough people around her telling her that she can become a man if she wants, then she will go for that. However because all the patriarchy idea is bullshit and “transitioned” women to men end up looking as very ugly men , they end up wanting to go back. Check out the statistics of women that want to detransition, its a staggering amount.

TLDR. Trannies are simply susceptible people that bought the bullshit of feminists and lefty crazies.

[deleted] · 2019-10-15T20:37:37+00:00

mental illness, dont care. I think its very unfortunate for some of them. Ive had to deal with alot at my job, they are fucking nuts

DangZagnut · 2019-10-15T20:49:43+00:00

None of my business what peoples psycho-sexuality is.

A woman that transitions into a man is, interestingly to me, more experiencing a much different world than they envisioned.

FtMs have reported horror stories of being ignored, feeling invalid, social outcast, etc., and not the same way MtF do.

MtF have a hard time being passable as most don't start very early in life at a point where HRT could make a difference, and for good reasons, because pre-puberty you can't really make an informed decision. Unfortunately, post puberty is when you can, but at that point testosterone has ravaged the ability to truly look "feminine". Too much boy juice makes them look, well, like boys.

Whereas FtMs can do it at an older age without a problem, the older the better. They grow a beard, and just, generally, look like a shorter, weaker bearded man.

So they pass more. They pass more because they are invisible in society because no one cares about men or checks them out. Your eyes wander right over a dude as a dude, and women see men like that as literally invisible. Whatever they thought they would get, socially, out of being a man, is rarely there. They see the realities of being a short guy, an invisible guy, and an irrelevant guy in society. Most FtM aren't 6'2" and ripped. They look like that kid in high school that had a hard time going the "pussy tickler" mustache.

No one gives a shit about the 5'4" guy unless they're very rich and famous, and when you see the 5'4" sporting a beard, you know he's just compensating. God help "him" if he is into chicks, because chicks aren't into him. He'll never be able to even really penetrate a girl unless she's on board for a FtM, so they better hope that relationship sticks, or they'll be very alone, and mostly ignored by both men, women, have a difficult time making friends, or even just going to the store or having any form of respect. And women don't want a FtM because they're into money. And a FtM rarely supplies that or has any idea how expensive relationships are when you're a man.

It is incredible how different women see the world through a man's eyes when, again, they're just short and a little young looking.

On repeated occasions (I can think of four different articles) there have been FtM that have completely freaked out over the new reality. Even a woman who didn't even transition, but just presented as a man as an experiment went into therapy afterwards from the experience.

Women simply can't handle the horrors of being an "average" man, which goes to show just how incredibly privileged they are in society. Multiple reports from women being men shows the horror show, and these are people that have absolutely every pressure from the trans community, the feminist community, the SJW community, etc. to not say a fucking negative thing about transitioning or all that. They get no love from those groups, and quickly realize their own people turn on them if they dare speak out about reality.

Welcome to the show, newly minted, evil white male.

But it still came out even with those pressures.

For MtF, they just get looked at as a freak if they're not passable (and few are unless they transitioned very young) but men already know they're treated like a freak, so women treating them weird, nothing new, guys treating them weird, well, they probably are used to that as well due to their past.

So they have my sympathies. I cannot say I fully understand it, but maybe I just deal with the "horrors" of being a male I guess. The grass isn't always greener.

Internally, maybe they feel better being whatever gender they think makes them happy, but they're going to experience not a whole lot of life, because not a whole lot of people look at it as more than just someone with a mental disorder and access to a pharmacist. How you feel inside about being a tranny is a lot based on the outside world treating you that way, but that just won't happen. TMen will realize its a shit show, and twomen will realize no one really wants a manly woman except as a fetish object.

Social life is hard enough for most people, even if you're good at it. It's tiring the best of days for many, and having that thrown on top probably doesn't make it any more pleasant. It's not surprising the suicide rate is so high.

proactive-defense · 2019-10-15T20:58:11+00:00

I think sex is biological, and their nebulous gender, well, I don’t really care. There’s men and women, and then delusional people. But I think people have a right to be as deluded as they’d like - doesn’t change the facts.

Maximum_Afternoon · 2019-10-15T22:19:33+00:00

Adults can do whatever weird shit they want, but kids will be spared a lifetime of increased chances for depression and suicide and pain if they are told "No. You are a boy." or "No. You are a girl."

terminator612 · 2019-10-15T20:39:31+00:00

It's a mental illness and there's storys of ppl who got the "sex change" and regretted it

Miggymoggy · 2019-10-15T22:44:01+00:00

I used to have an "live and let live" attitude towards those people as it is their choice but not anymore because they now go into schools to tell young boys (like at the ages of 5) that they might actually be a girl and push this agenda on to boys, which it is totally unacceptable to brainwash innocent boys.

Transgenders are really fucked up people and I absolutely side with the muslims on their stance regarding transgenders especially over here (England) as the school system is pushing LGBT lessons on to children as young as 5.

novhaku · 2019-10-16T00:00:39+00:00

I see them however they want if they're not assholes. I include anyone trying to force other people into any kind of "progressivist" BS that goes further than "respecting people" into this bunch. If they are and ride on the SJW train EXPECTING everyone to do whatever they want, then whatever, I don't give a fuck about your prefered pronoun and whatever. Someone that deserves respect deserves respect no matter their life choices, and when it comes to the other ones, I have no reason to care about their wishes. Just don't force crap on others because of your "feels".

Of course thanks to SJW and our ridiculous society and its "victimization-that-becomes-privilege" aspect, most of them ARE assholes because when they're given the possibility to be entitled they can't help but to take it. But the rare times when some of them aren't, I'm fine with them either way, it doesn't cost me anything and IDGAF about it negatively. I don't really give a fuck about people's gender anyway and will treat male assholes and female assholes equally anyway, aside from taking it as a warning when it comes to women because of how society works nowadays.

Now if we're talking about POLITICS (anti-androgens before puberty or whatnot) the subject is a lot more complicated. But I'm mainly talking about people here.

ro_gtow · 2019-10-15T20:30:45+00:00

My view is that they should be given hormones.

But hold up, not what you are thinking.

If a guy wants to become a girl, there is something going wrong in his body.

Instead of destroying what is left by nuking his endocrine system with estrogen, we should optimize his hormones to fit the male physiology. More testosterone instead of less. By getting his body more manly, the mind will follow.

Pyro111921 · 2019-10-15T20:52:18+00:00

I view it as a mental illness, same as being gay is. but as long as they're benign and are a productive member of society themsleves I don't care. Ironically the LGBT community has done more good for men than MRA's ever have (though as a complete byproduct and/or accident). The bad thing is they're pushing their mental illness onto extremely impressionable children and toddlers. This will fuck their minds up since they don't even know what 2+2 is half the time, so how the hell are they going to understand something as complicated as neurology and biology?

[deleted] · 2019-10-15T21:07:57+00:00

It's pandering to mental illness and it's dangerous, particularly to young people who seem to get given hormone blockers before they are old enough to understand the consequences or legally give consent.

I don't dislike transgender people - I feel genuinely sorry for them and wish them the best.

Iqbal40862715 · 2019-10-15T21:22:49+00:00

I see trans women as mentally ill homo dudes

I’m not even judging them or acting like they are inferior to me

It just grates on me this PC SJW horse manure if you say this is weird/don’t accept this/even have questions you are a hateful trans bigot.

Chop it off first then I will call you a woman.

Plus I think we are doing a disservice to them by saying a man with a beard and a dick is a woman was always a woman etc etc

Anagna · 2019-10-16T00:05:11+00:00

Depends on the circumstances with me, but it’s a mental illness either way.

If you just throw on a dress and put on makeup, I’m not going to acknowledge your pronouns because that’s called cross dressing . I’ll just lump you into the “they” category so I don’t feed your ego, and cop backlash of not being progressive.

If you actually have the guts to go through with the gruelling medical procedures, I’ll acknowledge your transition, you earned it.

Dmapguy · 2019-10-16T02:35:45+00:00

Indifferent. Unless the group is trying to "transition" prepubescent kids which they are so...

thekidsnotmine · 2019-10-16T04:03:55+00:00

I will take dont care for 300 alex

AeternusDoleo · 2019-10-16T10:10:45+00:00

Personally, as long as they aren't obnoxious about it I don't give a damn. People do all kinds of crazy things to themselves. The equivalent of adult dressup doesn't really rank highly on the crazy-o-meter.

HOWEVER, when people get all uppity about pronouns and whatnot I am just disgusted and turn my back on the whole deal. Those people aren't transgender, they are transadult - IE they have regressed to the mental capacity of a child. Be what you want, but don't force it down the gullet of the rest of us, or you're going to find out that tolerance, AND LACK THEREOF, is a two way street.

transcis · 2019-10-16T14:17:56+00:00

A wise person once wrote on the similar subject thus:

I can hardly blame flies for fucking. But when they do it on my head, it is annoying.

Cestus_Saphrax · 2019-10-16T15:46:54+00:00

Basically i don't care, but i love how they influence woman sports (those tears !)

Banned_For_Opinion · 2019-10-16T18:43:49+00:00

If you're 18 you can do whatever the fuck you want with your body. Just stop pandering to them all the time and telling me to call them beautiful.

[deleted] · 2019-10-15T21:37:40+00:00

Was sitting beside a transgender at an open mic last Monday. It was awkward asf and I just chilled and didn't say anything. Transgenders make some of the same IOIs as women to men they fancy. So I thought the best move was for me to lay back and chill as I've had a gay man say I was attractive. Just lay back and chill if they like you.

I just think there is something wrong with them

Nathaniel66 · 2019-10-16T08:34:35+00:00

Mental illness. I don't really care, but if a trans woman still looks like a man (i mean body shape, jaw line and so on), i'll treat him like a man.

SpaceCowboyBop · 2019-10-16T09:20:56+00:00

I'm all for live and let live. It's their lives and their choices. Unfortunately, I am told I MUST care and support them, they're such a tiny percent of the world's population and my products are covered in rainbows to support them. I don't give a fuck, but really I do think SJW companies use them to look woke and get social brownie points. Personally, I think it's a mental health issue and should be seriously studied, at the very least if they go through a screening process and still want to transition, do it, but pay for it all yourself and if it goes wrong shut the fuck up about it.

The ones who have known from day one and have transitioned and are happier that way, more power to them. I think it is wrong to attempt to shame people into dating trans people though, you cannot force someone to date one by shaming them. Personally I'd never date one, mainly due to the red flag of them having mental health issues and because despite what everyone insists, I don't see them as a real, biological woman who can have kids. That being said, I'm not a massive fan of biological women and they way they go on these days.

Pettyofficervolcott · 2019-10-16T09:24:01+00:00

Telling a boy that he can be a girl if he cuts off his cock-n-balls is EVIL.

It's a lie that tries to cripple a confused male by luring him with "the grass is greener on the other side" plus "you can be whatever you want to be" bullshit.

Can't speak for females, but similarly, it seems like a bad idea to cut off your tits or mangle your genitals. Not to mention sterilization from injecting abnormal hormones.

A child who doesn't even understand the ups and downs of male/female sexual relations are being chemically sterilized by enabling parents! If you got plans to cut off your own junk, go for it! But teaching kids that they're hateful if they don't accept this absurdity is fucking wrong.

The Darwin Award is quickly becoming a participation trophy. honk honk

RedCBR900 · 2019-10-16T12:10:44+00:00

my only problem is a woman thinking she's a man and as worthy as a man.But usually these persons have a clear feel that they aren't real men.

[deleted] · 2019-10-16T13:09:08+00:00

Women who couldn't live up to beauty standards, and men who couldn't live up to success standards, trying to have another go at life as the opposite sex, without having researched what it actually takes to make it as the opposite sex. Add to that a tea spoon of sexual orientation shame, and 3 gallons of Munchausen by proxy by your typical "progressive" parent, and voila: Transgenderism galore!

Title	Transgenders
Author	Demonic_humor
Upvotes	13
Comments	52
Date	October 15, 2019 8:21 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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