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[–]UglyPrince2000 38 points39 points40 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Yes please! Getting tired of all the women bashing, we see and hear the same bullshit, post after post, same bullshit just wraped in a different package. I get the venting part but it's the same people posting and posting, I'm like dude you still mad, you're not done venting yet?
[–]sandal_on0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
That is worst idea ever I heard on this sub. Seriously, I see what you are trying there.
You want to tone-police and ban any user who woman-bash because you are still female-pro as before (which shows by your text) and justify this anti woman-bashing by creating a new sub and make this just another ridiculous pro-woman sub which does not allow men to then even say bad about women "becuse there is already a sub for that dude enjoy your ban...".
[–]RatsSewer7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Let's complain about women more to show then how over them we are!
[–]sandal_on2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW is ignoring (excluding mutual benefit). Ignoring when society/women say “man up” or shaming men, or trying to persuade them to slave for the women/society. Ignoring is the opposite of caring. Therefor a MGTOW that cares (to prove a point, pleasing, and such) is not ignoring and thus is not purely MGTOW because caring about society and women is anti-MGTOW. Society and women is always anti-MGTOW because they want men to care and obey them to as much possible, where MGTOW is the opposite where men chooses purely for himself. MGTOW and society/women are the opposites, the middle ground is then a compromised way but not owned purely because it compromised and MGTOW is not compromised.
Caring also gives power to whom the care is to. Ignoring is withdrawing that power.
To prove point? For whom? For women/society? Then you are not ignoring them and the evidence is that your affected by them to the great extent that you care to prove a point by wanting an create a rule that is against the core of MGTOW. Doing that will cause men to DIE because there is no place left for them to vent and be themselves without fear.
MGTOW is ignoring. And trying to prove a point is the opposite of that.
[–]burtcoins0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
agree with you, they are trying to divert.
[–]sandal_on-4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
No one is forcing you to read women bashing, it seems rather that you dislike men bashing women and want to tone-police which is against MGTOW.
[–]UglyPrince2000 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's the same people posting though! They have been here for 1-3 years, maybe even when this sub was founded and they're still posting angry posts. I got over it in about a couple months, most post don't even offer any substance at all, and again this is coming from people that have been here awhile.
[–]Teflon08191 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you really expect the men who are dissatisfied by how problematic society has allowed female nature to become to just get over their dissatisfaction after a period of venting, despite the problem continuing to worsen?
There aren't many places out there where men can vent about all of the destructive shit women are allowed to get away with at men's expense. If you don't like it, or find it repetitive, I recommend you check out one of the other 1,065,447 subreddits.
[–]sandal_on-2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, whatever their intent is, what they do is basically washing the sub from any pro-woman atmosphere and keep the sub's purpose clean by hate or woman-bashing.
[–]RatsSewer3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why are you policing him then?
[–]sandal_on1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What do you mean? The idea is dangerous to MGTOW, and will lead to tone-policing similiar to other subs when it comes to women. That is against MGTOW itself.
[–]RatsSewer2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How is it dangerous? It's better to have men bitching in every thread?
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[–]gradchad 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We shall make it fly.
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[–]Ludovico10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tally up the threads that center on women vs not though. More of our front page is about women than not.
[–]gradchad 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I understand. But from the looks of it, it seems that we often focus on being more anti-them, than pro-us. Hence, the call for /r/GentlemenOnly.
[–]NotExactlyChad10 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is true. It gets annoying and attracts a lot of dumbasses
[–]UglyPrince2000 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Hardly any good posts on finance, philosophy, medicine etc. I find better more helpful posts on the red pill that don't revolve around angry posts against women, I need more than that, I need substance.
When a good post that doesn't revolve around women does get posted, no one comments on it or add their opinions, not even a couple of likes. It just gets ignored, but a post about how some guy turned down an abusive ex girlfriend is posted it gets 100 upvotes and comments out the ass, pathetic!
[–]gradchad 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, like they all want to roll around, wallow in the mud with all that misery.
What's that quote again?
Misery loves company.
[–]RatsSewer2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How is that different from the crazy ex gf that has pictures of her and her ex everywhere saying she is over him, showings their friends pictures of her ex saying how "over" him she is and never shutting up about it?
[–]RatsSewer3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But here in /r/mtgow it is always anger and bitterness.
[–]Tibbal11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Seriously look forwards to this. I know its not popular opinion but womem are people who just like men have variance in behaviour and beliefs.
There really isnt much point in stereotyping half of the human population, even if most seem to line up.
I could really dig some posotivity rn.
[–]fleshnbones 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Lol here we go with the "we need to stop women bashing" shit, yeah let's just completely not talk about women so men won't know how to protect themselves. Of course under all of that there will be some bashing.
Who cares? I don't understand people that want to censor this sub because some of us "bash women too much" the fuck?
Yeah let's just have an entire sub dedicated to men stroking their own ego, because fuck educating men and young men about women right?
[–]gradchad 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I say, we continue "women-bashing" on this sub, but dedicate a sub for discussions that don't include anything-female-related.
[–]Ludovico5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It might be harder work but it might be better to fix this sub. I for one am going to try and create some better content and get us out of this victim role
[–]gradchad 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We need more people like you.
[–]tribalbandit 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
gasp...someone taking some responsibility and being the change they seek. Kudos to you.
[–]midshitmandirtydan 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why not both? I see value in both subs being apart of this community
[–]huckleberryferry0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is the wisest response to the post and all the comments in its thread; I've been reading through for this.
[–]midshitmandirtydan 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm glad you feel the same. Some guys get too focused on being angry, when sometimes all they need is to step back, you know?
[–]Cunt_Robber2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
To go trp to learn about female nature. This sub teaches NOTHING about women except promoting stereotypes and the "worst-case" scenarios and inviting more negativity. TRP actually addresses why female behavior is the way it is, and how a man can do to change it in his favor. I think that's way more valuable than just bashing women. It's like DARE: they tell you drugs are bad mkay? Instead of teaching you about how to do them safely and what to watch out for (because inevitably, most people are going to TRY a couple drugs at least once).
[–]tribalbandit 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sounds like TRP is right up your alley then. Surprised you have been slumming here.
[–]Cunt_Robber5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I believe in both ideologies. I go my own way, and that way sometimes includes chasing and screwing women. This sub sometimes has quality posts, sometimes not. I've learned to filter what I engage in and what I scroll past pretty well. Cheers
[–]Ludovico0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hyperbole strawman bullshit. Are you my exwife?
Its not about never ever talking about women. But for some of us its too much. Just now on the front page of mgtow i counted 16 threads that center on women compared to 9 that didnt. How the fuck is that men going there own way?
[–]RatsSewer0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh yeah without this sub men were never able to protect themselves before.
[–]Ludovico9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree with your sentiment. Its not like we shouldnt EVER talk about women but there is a lot of bitching and moaning and lamenting 'oh poor us' bullshit.
Marcus aurelius is in the side bar, do you think he bitched and moaned or did her learn how to accept bullshit and transcend it? His teacher seneca didnt lament things he couldnt control, he overcame them with shear power of will and wisdom. Did Siddhartha claim victim status and whine about how the world was unfair? Fuck no! They powered through that shit and they became the masters of their own lives by refusing to be victims.
I get it. I am in the middle of a messy divorce and i get angry too, but buck the fuck up here fellas! I didnt come here for a fucking wingefest and self pity party i came here to talk about being strong, getting stronger and carving my own brilliant path out of what life has to offer.
Yes man! Good luck to you.
[–]Cunt_Robber9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Ive said this in the past. Getting tired of woman-bashing and women dominating the subject of mgtow posts
[–]gradchad 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Ok /u/Cunt_Robber, see you at /r/GentlemenOnly.
[–]Cunt_Robber3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Is this a new sub that was created or an existing sub?
Well, I was looking for something that didn't exist, so I created it.
[–]Cunt_Robber1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sweet. Great job on taking the initiative. Will subscribe
[–]gradchad 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't just subscribe, post about your progress and interests too. See you soon.
[–]Cunt_Robber0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Theyre the same as everybody else's... Fuck bitches get money
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[–]Ludovico1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree. Lets just work harder to make mgtow better
Exactly.
[–]StorkSlayer1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. If anything, I'd rather seem tags (flair?) for posts on what topic they pertain to, and allow users to filter out posts about women.
[–]bonusfruit2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
That's already a sub. I think it's r/mgtowbwbaw
[–]ijpqenbfp 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Catchy name.
[–]hollybegin3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'll gladly switch between the twos...I'm sure tired sometimes about the wymynz "bashing" but it helps keeping me on my toes...
[–]gradchad 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
/r/GentlemenOnly is more of a supplement or a branch to MGTOW and TRP.
[–]hollybegin4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good enough for me.
[–]throwawaylifespan4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This. Anti- is ok for a while then one kinda has to get off one's ass and do shit.
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[–]HeWhoSlewGoliath2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hi,
I already opened a topic at this (new) subreddit. Hopefully it will not become infested.
Cheers & thanks to the creator/moderator.
[–]gradchad 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey, thanks to YOU for contributing. And we need mods, CSS-proficient redditors.
[–]Trek133 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This forum is not really "MGTOW". More like "wanna-be MGTOW". It's sort of an AA for men trying to beat their pain and addiction to women so naturally women and all the associated butthurt dominate the forum. Maybe this forum is only one of the early steps in the "12 step program".
As for other interests and the goals of MGTOW and leading a full and rewarding life, well, that covers a VERY wide area of subjects and there are thousands of specialized and dedicated websites and forums for that.
[–]RatsSewer1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Funny you should mention that. I said that men here are obsessed with women and he compared it to AA.
[–]hardtostarboard20162 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
by bashing women we are still building our lives around women.
Haha, yes. That was put rather succinctly.
I agree. My past post was about how this sub seems butthurt:
How is that different from the crazy ex gf that has pictures of her and her ex everywhere saying she is over him, showings their friends pictures of her ex saying how over him she is and never shutting up about it? I can get behind the movement for sure but honestly it's a bunch of whiny pussies. Where are the real men who do cool stuff and not care about women instead of the fake MGTOW who only complain about women?
How is that different from the crazy ex gf that has pictures of her and her ex everywhere saying she is over him, showings their friends pictures of her ex saying how over him she is and never shutting up about it?
I can get behind the movement for sure but honestly it's a bunch of whiny pussies. Where are the real men who do cool stuff and not care about women instead of the fake MGTOW who only complain about women?
[–]OptimusFried 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Subbed.
[–]tribalbandit 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
There already exists such a mgtow forum. It is called mgtowbwbaw. No one posts there surprisingly as often as I see these threads posted. I guess you guys want it, just not enough to spend any time there posting.
[–]Diam35 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good idea.
[–]MotorcycleLover8001 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
here is a good place to start. They got it all covered. Don't really see a point in a small community here when there is a huge successful community there. They even took steps to prevent female users, won't see that on reddit.
[–]gradchad 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes, but we need a place on Reddit to reach out to more men.
[–]MotorcycleLover8004 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Here, and propose to mods to add the mgtow site to the sidebar (instead of that ugly one at the bottom).
That way the attention comes here, let the ragers stay here and people who wanna monk mode or get into more hobbies and activities and go there.
my 2 cents
Hey I added it on /r/GentlemenOnly's sidebar.
[–]fleshnbones -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I need to go back there, non of this "too much woman bashing" censoring horse shit like this sub is becoming..
[–]Appleseed123331 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How about flairs that highlight non-women posts therefore making it easy to see to the whole 25k sub base.
Well, what made you volunteer for celibacy?
[–]MagicVinegar 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What you have to realize as MGTOW grows is there are going to be a lot of red pill rage as people discover their whole lives were a sham. I got over my RPR a long long time ago but it is still ok to read or not how shitty female nature can be. Women are the reason we are all here so not talking about them and their behavior seems fucking dumb if you ask me. If want to read constructive posts then make them instead of complaining that other MGTOW are not fitting into your idea of what it should be.
[–]the_unseen_one0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Be the change you want to see. Don't fracture an already weak cooperative effort among men because it's not exactly what you want.
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[–]the_unseen_one1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hmm, I didn't think of it like that. I guess I agree with the sentiment then, even though I find it unnecessary. I have seen a lot of great intellectual and practical discussions for men that don't involve women on here.
[–]ursus_thibetanus-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's literally r/MGTOWBWBAW
[–]geocitiesuser-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ahhh yes, the monthly cycle. Back to "We talk about women too much". Next week we'll be back to hating incels or something.
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