Why do MGTOW

TimeSlaved · 2016-08-03T22:54:31+00:00

a) MGTOW saved me from the fallacies and lies that we are fed from the media and traditional family values that do not apply anymore. Granted, the reason why the media pushes it is because the economy benefits from it.
b) They either call me names, question my point of existence, laugh, or very rarely, compliment me on my independence. It must be noted though...I have never told anyone directly that I follow the MGTOW lifestyle choice and associated repercussions. I'm not sure if others share my views, but I only discuss MGTOW with guys that I know share the same views or those at their lowest point in their dating life and ready to give up on everything. If I do tell others about it, it's still only to guys but on anonymous mediums.
c) Dad adores me for it because he occasionally regrets marriage (backstory: he's been emasculated and is extremely dependent on my mom, and typical alcoholism because of expectations of others vs. disappointment). Mom is slowly accepting that she won't have grand kids from me, but she acknowledges the truths I state and sees them in her own life. Sisters are still in the dating system, although the oldest has given up due to her low SMV (struggles with weight issues). Middle one is married to a guy with a solid career in the future, and she's a high aimer that loves earning $$$. No real nagging anymore since I've expressed my loss of interest in dating.
d) Benefits: freedom, savings, mental peace of mind, do whatever the fuck you want to do, gain true happiness by tying it to your OWN goals that don't require others, friendships improved since you become more honest and don't waste time. Drawbacks: MGTOW came to me after a period of depression, and the state of society is a bitter pill to follow that your body and mind will do everything to resist following it, loss of friends because they can't handle your views.
e) As much as I try to quit fapping, the one thing I'm struggling with is controlling my hormones (sad state of human nature is that we are slaves to it regardless of what we do). However, when the need kicks in, porn is done in 15-30 minutes whereas to get sex from a woman is expensive ("You gotta dine me before we fuck" or some other excuse to validate them having sex with you), time consuming (dates, hangouts, togetherness), and about 99% pointless (from all of your dating/girlfriends, you expect to settle with one of them? The odds aren't with you).

TL;DR = MGTOW is love. MGTOW is life. MGTOW is freedom from the fucked up systems that exist to align all of the sheeple, thus furthering the intentions and goals of the filthy rich in the process.

JStheHammer · 2016-08-03T22:22:45+00:00

Mgtow saved my life.

nickynad · 2016-08-03T23:58:05+00:00

I would definitely recommend aiming for the elimination or reduction of masturbation, but some others in this forum disagree. I come from a mostly spiritual perspective, in that the energy and matter that would create life is extremely valuable and in my opinion can be channeled into more worthwhile endeavors (artistic exploration/contemplation, self-training/expansion...). The time and energy lost is not worth it. Experiment with it yourself and see what gives you the best results for what you hope to achieve. After a certain amount of sexual release, I think it's easy to be comfortable in realizing that there will not be anything new or valuable it can offer you.

A user "oldredder", I believe, told me that he had sex 3 times a day for a time without any energy loss. He also told me that not releasing would give him inescapable erections that would make him pass out. I find both of these a little hard to believe, but I guess some guys are particularly virile, haha... I'm kind of a tiny guy myself, so maybe I've never had to deal with extreme levels of testosterone or whatever... Cheers ! :)

Sn0man79 · 2016-08-04T00:49:28+00:00

These sound like essay questions from a freshman college kid.

Don't come here looking for answers as to "why" you should go your own way. Do it or don't - its not for us to convince you. It's a personal decision. If you want to learn about mgtow and red pill that's what the sidebar is for.

My-Name-Is-No-One · 2016-08-03T22:41:31+00:00

I'd be so bold to say that for most men, MGTOW is merely the best 'solution' to a multi-layered, and unsolveable problem. It isnt so much a choice, as it is the ONLY choice once a man wakes the fuck up.

That being said, you're asking a lot of basic questions here. I'd say check out Barbarossa and starusk's early work, as that is basically what culminated into the modern incarnation of MGTOW. If it resonates, and you in turn see and underatand it and in turn, you internalize it, then you are probably ready to go your own way. On a related note, concerning yourself with what family, women, and others think of MGTOW isn't 'going your own way.' If anything, best to shut up about it, unless you want to be castigated as a witch and burned at the stake.

Knxguymgy · 2016-08-03T23:07:28+00:00

Should women quit fapping? On cam no less

throwspuaexception · 2016-08-03T23:46:57+00:00

That it's okay to not require companionship. I just never really actively pursued dating in general, I didn't feel it was a priority. While all my friends were out at the bar trying desperately to get drunk and have ONS, I was busy improving myself. It was like my high, to get myself better.
Women don't care. Women don't know I'm an MGTOW. I tell them if they want to know.
Parents don't know yet...
Benefits include all the free time in the fucking world to improve yourself and to experience the world. I don't need someone to tell me to give up my hobbies in order to spend more time with them.
I can't really answer this question: Sex drive is quite low and I fap out of boredom which does not occur alot.

Five_Decades · 2016-08-04T02:18:52+00:00

The modern mating climate and legal climate has become very hostile to men to the point where the benefits generally do not outweigh the costs and risks. The market is full of low quality women with gigantic egos and dump trucks full of demands, and the legal system is there to take half your stuff if you can't keep them happy (you can't).
They honestly don't care. Women only desire a small minority of elite men, maybe 5-20%. If those men go MGTOW, women care. For the other 80-95% of us men, they really couldn't care one way or another. You do get shaming tactics if you aren't elite SMV though. 'oh, you went MGTOW because nobody finds you attractive', things like that.
I think they've accepted it. I don't want a wife and kids.
Benefits - more disposable income. More free time. Control over your life. Not being nagged or treated rudely. More privacy. Your energies and money are devoted to improving your own life, not other people's.

4a. Drawbacks - Some marriages and LTRs actually are happy. They are the minority, but they exist. You miss out on that. Kids of your own are nice, but I have nieces and nephews to fulfill my paternal urges. Also the MGTOW movement is full of men in the anger phase, so you have to deal with a lot of hatred, bitterness, nice guy syndrome, misogyny, proto-fascist politics, hyperbolic anarchic fantasies about society collapsing, etc.

Hell no. I think the no fap movement is something red pillers do because it makes them obsess over getting laid in real life more. I want to reduce my sex drive as much as possible. MGTOWers generally have more of a buddhist mindset, in the sense that being enslaved to your base urges is something to be overcome.

oldredder · 2016-08-04T08:51:40+00:00

You do what you want.

For me it's given me all the money & freedom I ever had. Seeing others doing the other thing I've seen divorce and poverty induced by wife / girlfriend / government.

I don't have to argue with family: going my own way means they don't get to choose or advise.

victor_knight · 2016-08-04T08:59:57+00:00

Just wait until you're in your 30s, then people (including family) will stop giving a fuck whether you get married or not. You'll just be one of those guys who "missed the boat". On the other hand, if you want children, consider other options.

Title	Why do MGTOW
Author	ssofmind
Upvotes	5
Comments	16
Date	August 3, 2016 10:18 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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