Why the hate for Incels here?

novice_at_life · 2018-10-05T18:35:53+00:00

If a guy is still a virgin because he has high standards, he is not involuntarily celibate, he is voluntarily celibate, incels act like they are being denied something they should be entitled to, which is just a ludicrous notion.

ABrokenBeing · 2018-10-05T19:13:12+00:00

Incels are angry about no sex, when In reality sex ain’t worth nothin.

donallanod · 2018-10-05T19:13:20+00:00

I don't get why some people here are hating incels. Isn't that basically admitting that you need women's validation as a man to have worth?

This sounds a bit mixed up to me. Incels believe that you need a women's validation as a man to have worth, that's why they are angry, they still think they need women and it's some kind of achievement to get one.

MGTOW don't care if you are a virgin or not. Seeing people rage that they can't get women is the issue.

I think you have MGTOW and incel mixed up, or the wording isn't clear in your post.

NietzscheExplosion · 2018-10-05T19:34:18+00:00

Still worship pussy... they just hate their lot in life.. we like it.

Misinformed_Lobster · 2018-10-05T19:31:58+00:00

Incels are equivalent to the school shooter looking kid that you always say "hi" to out of fear whenever you walk past him in the hallway.

DanTheMGTOW · 2018-10-05T22:45:28+00:00

TLDR: Incels are hated on because they over-prioritize sex because of their inexperience.

I believe people are "hating" on incels because their ideology is to worship and fantasize about having sex but are unsuccessful. They also tend to believe they are entitled to certain things\privileges. That factor is how everyone puppets incels. There are guys who work out and make themselves attractive and get a lot of sex, which also prioritize obtaining sex (Chads, playboys, many different names for them). The point MGTOWs are hating on is the idea of being enslaved to pursuing sex, knowing that this will only bring in more trouble. Incels and Chads are thinking about the immediate pleasure of sex, not to consequences or the control they give up over their lives in pursuit of it. They lose themselves in the delusion that sex is the ultimate pleasure and highest attainable goal.

An incel would be willing to coax or trick a woman into having sex with him. That is a rape accusation waiting to happen. A MGTOW knows that the trouble is not worth getting into. Sexual desire is strong, and there are sexually active and married MGTOW, but knowing yourself and controlling yourself instead of pursuing sexual gratification is an honorable trait of MGTOWs which incels seem not to promote.

MGTOW is about Men Going Their Own Way. It's not a movement. The ideology has been around longer than the term MGTOW. When I found MGTOW, I agreed with the key foundation of being independent, having control over my own fate, building myself for myself, relying on my own skills, and breaking the cycle of neediness. I didn't know the terminology and that so many felt the same way as I did. I thought feminism would always overcast over MGTOW because it is portrayed in popular culture.

For me, MGTOW isn't about hating women, or hating incels. Yes, in the beginning I went through some red pill rage. I still do time to time. The core fundamentals of MGTOW that appeal to me relate to self improvement, self reliance, seeking the good things in life, not giving energy to destructive things, and to be a better person than I was before for myself and others that I chose to be around.

OP, I think you should get with some escorts and run out the conception of sex being the ultimate goal. Get it out of your system. The allure of the unknown is what is blurring you. Once you see past the facade, you see how women manipulate men for money, resources, and their confidence. It's for their benefit, not yours.

I was an incel in my younger years. I was very blue pilled. I got it out of my system, dated and had some breakups, ghosted 2 women.... I learned that it's not worth the hassle for me. Don't guess OP, get experience. It's in my hope that once your experience raises the deceptive fog of sex, you'll learn not to validate sex so much.

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Kogley · 2018-10-05T22:52:01+00:00

Well first of all, i think the vast majority here are MGTOW because they already have had a relationship with women including the sexual and casual way, something incels haven't experienced

jonathino001 · 2018-10-06T00:28:35+00:00

It's not so much hate for the literal definition of an incel (someone who wants to get laid, but cant) but rather hate for the bad name they give us MGTOW's. Women can't fucking stand the thought of a man who doesn't want to fuck them. It hurts their fragile ego's, So many of them choose to believe we are just incels covering up our inability to get laid by pretending we don't care.

We tend to think less of every other group because lets be honest, no-one thinks they are wrong. If I thought I was wrong at any time in my life, I would change my mind so as to not be wrong anymore. That's how it works. So naturally MGTOW's believe MGTOW is objectively the best choice. We think less of every other type of man, to some extent. Some we feel sorry for, others we don't. But incels we get particularly sensitive about because of the aforementioned bad name they give us. Their bullshit BECOMES our problem, because of the way women think we're the same thing.

nigelh · 2018-10-06T11:47:33+00:00

We are sorry for incels.
They define themselves by not being able to get something that we don't value.
What we don't want is them coming here and clogging r/MGTOW up with their incel griping that got their subrediit axed.

klim_milk · 2018-10-06T04:26:30+00:00

We don't hate incels, but their thirst for pussy is off-putting and some of their ideals are wrong (even though they're aware of it) and their self-loathing is just degenerate.

Title	Why the hate for Incels here?
Author	Aza383
Upvotes	9
Comments	24
Date	October 5, 2018 6:31 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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