Will the MGTOW movement eventually cause a change in society?

androenergy · 2017-04-29T12:08:00+00:00

When I went my own way, I stopped having time to consider these types of questions

Charles_Offdensen · 2017-04-29T12:47:23+00:00

Mr_RobotDick · 2017-04-29T13:29:13+00:00

MGTOW the philosophy won't change the gynocentrism but there could eventually be a bachelor tax.

BTW it's not a movement.

scouse_till_idie · 2017-04-29T14:33:33+00:00

no, waaaaaayyy too many betas and TRP chumps out there, MGTOW will always be elite

Demonikhan · 2017-04-29T14:40:39+00:00

it is not a movement. its a lifestyle.

ETKDoom · 2017-04-29T15:48:50+00:00

Nothing is going to happen except in your own life. Be happy with your freedom and don't care about making changes to society.

dannygojo · 2017-04-29T16:03:34+00:00

No, because the top elite decide when society gets to change.

Music, movies, books, internet, social media, news is their way of implanting seeds about how you're supposed to think.

Society made very little change unless it connects with the agenda of those in secrecy.

MGTOW is not profitable so it will never become mainstream.

Neoshining · 2017-04-29T13:35:33+00:00

Loyalty is a survival mechanism for women, they use it accordingly.

TheRealMouseRat · 2017-04-29T15:19:16+00:00

I think muslims will take over the western world and then things will change back.

EthicalScoundrel · 2017-04-29T15:53:21+00:00

It's not a movement. Movement = groupthink. I think most of us are here because we came to the conclusion that marriage in the 21st century is a raw deal, and we came to that conclusion independently.

Will MGTOW change the world? No. But the same factors and trends caused us to leave the plantation are at play and growing everyday (false rape accusations, divorce courts favoring women every damn time, women women everywhere but not a lady to be found, etc). And when men look around and do a simple cost/benefit analysis, they too will drop out. There's no movement; just reasoning minds independently coming to the same conclusion.

Ananda_Arahant · 2017-04-29T16:42:41+00:00

I agree with all the commenters who say we should just go our own way, and not care what happens to society or when.

However, the MGTOW phenomenon is growing quickly enough to have a very visible effect on society within the next decade. So let's see where that might lead.

This forum tripled in size this year. Other forums like this, and channels on YouTube, are already exceeding 100,000 subscribers.

MGTOW is tripling every few months. But, if you assume that it triples only every year, then, within four years, there will be about 10 million self-declared MGTOW. And countless millions undeclared, who may not have heard the word MGTOW.

Given that consumption is driven almost entirely by nagging women, the sheer number of MGTOW will have a catastrophic effect on the economy.

I'd expect the economy to steadily deteriorate over the next several years, as MGTOW grows. Then, once MGTOW hits a critical mass, there will be a rapid crisis. I don't know the specifics of that, of course.

My hope is that the end of marriage and "relationships" will lead to a fair competition between the male and female "species." You see, women are as different from men as men are from chimps. Genetically, men are about 1.5% apart from chimps and women.

Men have evolved compassion, honor, emotional and physical toughness, logic, creativity, boldness, and foresight. Women have not evolved any of these, though they can simulate some of them.

Women, in essence, are a lower form of hominid, like Neanderthals. We men need to leave them behind, and go forward as the real humans. If we do so, one day, we will be indistinguishable from the gods themselves.

Mywayonlyway · 2017-04-29T18:43:40+00:00

Of course it will. Why is everyone on here so defeatist? Things have gotten so bad that we are on the brink of a revolution. Society is already crumbling because men are starting to focus on themselves. Things are already becoming better for men and will only continue to improve as more and more men find self-respect and stop giving a fuck.

Sir_Shitlord_focker · 2017-04-29T21:57:39+00:00

I think it already has, I've never married, had no kids. I build my business on my own and keep to myself, occasionally I drink beer with my buddies but I don't go clubbing anymore.

I cook well now, learned it for myself, I also learn all I can about many different topics (coding, woodworking, blacksmithing).

When I die there will be nothing left of me, and I'm glad for it since I don't want to raise children in this society. My ancestors kept our line going from the beginning of life until now. I chose to end it. It's a major change in society. I can't imagine how different my life would be without the modern day feminism and the MGTOW movement I've joined in reaction to it.

christianlazard · 2017-04-29T14:01:56+00:00

It already is changing society – on an atomistic/individual level.

coqui25 · 2017-04-29T19:20:11+00:00

I saw on my twitter account an article saying millenials don't want marriage or kids. Just $ and jobs.

So who knows. Time will show.

boringcarpets · 2017-04-29T17:29:52+00:00

Totally irrelevant. Not a movement. Tradcons can get fucked.

justareflektorr · 2017-04-29T14:18:45+00:00

Women use the ugly guys for resources, if some through the magic of the internet find out that they are simply getting used by their so and that women dont love them, might increase the happiness of many, many well-off nerds and the-likes.

JFK7878 · 2017-04-29T16:42:41+00:00

No. Men will be replaced by immigration from africa, robots and AI. You cant bargain if you have no leverage.

Talkytalktalk · 2017-04-29T17:42:16+00:00

KingCanuck5 · 2017-04-29T18:30:09+00:00

If the numbers sway and we become a majority, or at least a sizeable bloc, probably. As much as many here would prefer to stay apolitical I don't blame them, but come on.

the numbers will do the talking.

What is more amazing is we don't recruit. We let them come to us.

Wraith29 · 2017-04-29T19:25:45+00:00

in society? no. on an individual level, sure

OldRoad · 2017-04-30T00:08:15+00:00

Even if they created incentives for women to be more open-minded with respect to guys that they would be willing to date, and even if there were more incentives to stay married, we would still all know that that's the only reason that they would be back to us. Would you want to be married to someone that you think doesn't really want to be married to you?

Theoretically, the only thing that I can imagine would have any chance to address the issue would be medical treatments to make all guys more attractive to women. Surgery/medicine to make us all tall with great physiques, and also facial surgery. Basically, every guy would become as much of a "Chad" as possible.

ocean_nerd · 2017-04-29T14:17:37+00:00

I think these 'changes' have been the norm for hundreds/thousands of years... What exactly are you hoping for?

Banincoming · 2017-04-29T19:56:43+00:00

Chad, Jerome, and immigrants will be there to pick up the slack on the babymaking front. As for paying child support and taxes...

Zombocom1911 · 2017-04-29T21:47:29+00:00

not in my lifetime.

scarymovie2 · 2017-04-30T00:58:36+00:00

Teabag_Tim · 2017-04-30T02:15:13+00:00

Honestly....who really cares? I sure don't.

I'm not interested in LTRs or any romantic ties. Many here share that sentiment.

byers18901 · 2017-04-30T12:53:01+00:00

It'd be nice if it did change. But as evidenced by the comments it seems like the vast majority of us are just saying "Fuck this I'm out". Which is their right.

But me personally I would like to see a change in society. However achieving said change will be incredibly difficult especially considering maybe 1/20 of us wants a change. Even fewer being willing to work toward that change.

guitararvin · 2017-04-30T01:40:39+00:00

Ironically, what we need is more nagging women.

Title	Will the MGTOW movement eventually cause a change in society?
Author	Introvertedmgtow
Upvotes	28
Comments	43
Date	April 29, 2017 12:06 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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