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[–]NoobGamerArena42 points43 points44 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And then file a lawsuit against the good guy for not being an asshole and abusing you. And he gets 10 years in prison for not talking to you because you asked him not to talk to you.
[–]pchswolverines7-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What charge is that? I’m just curious
[–]Ffdfggfgdrfwfzdf28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
More like: He is an asshole... Probably he doesn't have to be nice... Probably he is more valuable since he can have the luxury to be an asshole... Asshole means he is tough, a strong man...
🤰 😢😭 Oh shit he left me... Like any asshole would... 🤔 Better find a beta cuck to raise the children of the asshole...
[–]Hiromant12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Asshole also always includes good looks. Lookism is the real black pill.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thing is most of the "nice" guys I know are just pretending so they can get into the girls pants..Most are not genuine nice..They're just beta hypocrites that will still throw you under the bus for a whiff of pussy. So fuck most of those "nice" guys (only nice with women btw)
[–]nana31og2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely true, many times I have been met with some serious cock blocking efforts for women I wasn’t even after. They’re your “bro” until you get more female attention then it’s game on
[–]TheUltimateThug6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And she still got her shit pounded by the asshole.
[–]SirSips6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
The issue with nice guys is that they hard to discern between real and fake kindness. Assholes on the other hand already display their worst qualities makeing the seem real without any hidden bullshit.
Same applies in my work environment, I hate working with nice guys. The use kindness as leverage to help them, its extremely annoying. Working with a dickhead you at least know he'll get his job done on his own.
[–]GemStarCN2111 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Sorry but I don't believe none of it.
It's just the modern day culture twisting the narrative to suit it own agenda of demonizing men.
There was never anything wrong with "nice guys", it's just another tool of exclusion by women to justify them going after the top 20%.
And I hate to see a group like mgtow falling/taking part in the tactic.
So where were these so called duplicitous nice guys back in the day? There weren't any, because being nice was something normal, and you were rewarded with the same in kind.
The demonizing of the term "nice" just goes to show just how corrupted our modern society has become.
[–]MgtowAutumn1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Why do so many people on this forum act like history was some Golden Age we’ve fallen from? This kind of rambling bullshit is what makes MGTOW look like incels and conspiracy theorists.
How could you say there were no duplicitous nice guys back in the day? When and where was being “nice” ever valued over being rich, powerful, ambitious, intelligent, cunning? You assert this as an obvious fact based on...what? You think history was all the happy nuclear family with kind and wise rulers until feminism swooped in and destroyed our perfect utopia? I’m not smoking anything as strong as you are dude
[–]PassingByWageTroll1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Being polite and respectful was a self-sustaining value.
Because you can not be an asshole for too long if there is no police around.
[–]Sir_manalot0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice guys were far more common back in the 60s and it is why the economy boomed so much.
Back then, it was called being a gentlemen.
Ofc, it wasn't a golden age and tons of faults. And women still didn't like them, but who really cares what women want?
[–]Sir_manalot10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Bullshit.
Tons of men fake being assholes because that is the kind of man society wants men to be (actions, not words). Just look at PUA, it is about atleast faking you are a dark triad to please women.
And nobody really fakes kindness anymore as you do not get anything for it. So there is zero reason to fake it.
Women are just pushing the narrative of fake kindness to excuse there poor mating choices. If real good men existed, then that means they are picking bad men over good men. So good men are fake and the real assholes. While thug Chad is the true nice guy (until the relationship is over ofc).
Another way women do this is by only considering people who are absolutely kind as good (aka her personal slave). Expecting a man to be kind no matter how he is treated. Ex: She rejects a good man rudely and he responds accordingly.
Also, what is wrong with people "faking" kindness? Is being polite and respectful wrong? Because that is what "fake" kindness is. Better then them being total dicks to you.
It is like being angry at rich people for donating millions of dollars to virtue signal. Would you rather them not give anything to the poor?
Yeah, it would be better if they did it selflessly instead, but you are not entitled to people being what you want them to be.
[–]TheLastMgtow2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
100%. I would also add. The more good looking and the higher status you have, the more you can afford to be nice. If you are low status, and not good looking, and on top of that you are nice, people and especially women will step all over you.
[–]Sir_manalot0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That is because the other "traits" he has counteract his good/real man traits.
It is like how men put up with a crazy bitchy women because she is hot. The difference is that gentlemen traits are positive and lead to happiness.
The worst part is how far people will go to make nice men look bad to justify women's mating choices. We overexagerate bad trait that he has, give him less power and even make shit up about him to justify trashing him.
Ex: If a nice guy plays video games, he is childish. If a criminal plays video games, he is cool. If a nice guy has a tramatic background, he is messed up. If a criminal has a tramatic background, he needs help.
Once you understand this, society makes alot more sense.
[–]TheLastMgtow1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. well Fuck this clown society, makes no sense at all. Too many nice men. All men need to go mgtow or at least stop being nice.
[–]SirSips0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I can only state my opinion from personal experience so it doesn't carry much weight in a debate.
A person that only does good in expectations of recognition and reward is not motivated by sincere kindness. It's a selfish outlook and alot of people don't realize that if you truely want to be a good man you shouldn't care about the outcome.
As for fake assholes just seems stupid and shows acting that way means that you lack a personality of your own.
[–]Sir_manalot2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Aka be a sucker. Things are not as black and white as you believe them to be. The outcome of things always matters.
If a person helps a man for he thinks he has potential, that isn't selfish. He is just being smart with his time.
To be clear, even men like Jesus (idealized version of good) are not kind all the time.
[–]SirSips2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
After reading your comments carefully I have to agree with you. This gets even more complex if you bring in consideration of different morals. Imagine giving a pork sandwich to a hungry Muslim, good intentions bad results. Just a silly example of why to consider outcome.
[–]PassingByWageTroll0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is called mutual benefit. Scratch my back and I scratch yours.
[–]Disposable__Male0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The most respectful thing a man can do is to assert his opinion to the fullest extent while acknowledging differing viewpoints. (ie respectfully disagree, the time for talk is now, say your piece)
That absolutely should not include tolerance for misbehavior while maintaining a servile disposition. We should try to hold frame whenever possible, but there's a difference between "yes, and" and "yes, dear."
[–]MGTOWmadness4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you think other guys are "assholes" and you are a "nice guy" you are still embracing the victim mentality.
Get rid of that and move on.
[–]Regevent252 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In my story, I was the nice guy they got married to a latina. She then tried to turn me into a machismo. It didn't work and so she left me for a coworker, an illegal immigrant who was sleeping around with her other married coworkers.
They immediately got married upon our divorce. I wonder how well that's going to work out for her.
[–]MgtowAutumn2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t particularly see the problem with women not liking “nice guys” who they don’t otherwise find attractive. I don’t want to fuck nice, obese chicks either.
I’d like to say the preaching is annoying too but I’ve definitely dated a bunch of crazy chicks and preached how all women are crazy. Personally I can’t criticize this aspect of them too much but obviously it is stupid behavior. I eventually learned my lesson and went my own way.
[–]Throwthe88271 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The quote forgot “get pregnant”.
[–]cursed_deity0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
but if they succeed suddenly its ''you're not the man i fell in love with anymore''
[–]olsing0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
This picture is so wrong on so many levels.
We may say women date "assholes", but "nice guys" are almost always manipulative, lying and soaring bitches. How do I know? I was "nice guy" most of my life.
[–]41ph40 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
same here. Nice guys are only that way as a manipulation strategy. Once we have been taken advantage of, we change our strategy to being indifferent than being nice.
[–]olsing0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Can you explain what you mean we change our strategy? I was nice guy most of my life, then found MGtow and now I feel indifferent towards most of things.
I'm like so your husband left you? I really don't care, you should know what you marry. Or maybe your dog died? Sure poor dog, but shit happens and because this dog was old what exactly was you expecting? Or maybe you lost investment money? Investing is risk so it's pretty common. Or maybe you had car accident and lost leg? Well driving a car is risky too, so feel lucky you are alive.
So yes I guess I changed my strategy to beeing indifferent and thats why your words seems so interesting to me.
[–]41ph41 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Basically, we sever our perception of others feelings. We dont need that anymore because, well, we just stopped playing the game. Why would you care about a game you stopped playing? life sucks and, quite frankly, I dont care about anyone else anymore. I tried playing by the rules as I saw them. It didnt work. So the only way to not lose is to not play. There is no winning, there is only riding a decent streak til you lose.
So I became indifferent, and couldn't care less what happens to this world. I see it like george Carlin. When you're born, you are given tickets to the freak show. If it's in the US, then it's a front row seat. So I watch the freaks doing freak things, and I find it entertaining. When they struggle, I see the root cause and can see they did it to themselves. I dont feel a need to help, or to even try to give them solice. I just watch them struggle, and feel entertained. I am not rooting for or against. I just like that they do such stupid things, and then whine that life sucks. It's very funny.
[–]olsing0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for explaining. I can definitely relate.
[–]PassingByWageTroll0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
manipulative
For fuck sake. If you do somthing good. For someone. He or she fukken owes you. It is not manipulative. It is literally normal interaction. You are not a slave.
[–]olsing0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
And that's exactly "nice guy" mindset. That's exactly the worst face of "nice guys".
Doing good with honesty doesn't mean beeing slave. If you don't want help others simply say no, or if you want something in return just say what you want in return and if this person agrees help him. That's literally normal interaction.
Helping others and waiting for them to give you something in return, without calling it, is sick interaction.
For example when I was nice guy and simp I helped many girls over and over again and I was expecting from them to be my girlfriend. I'm pretty sure they knew it, but if I would be honest from start and I would say what I'm expecting I'm pretty sure most of them wouldn't want my help.
[–]PassingByWageTroll0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ah. Now I get it. You right. You shouldnt do something for strangers if they did not ask for your help. Most of the time its really irritating. And even if they ask for help you should think twice. Modern society shifting to a primitive group really fast.
Well the non primitive option is to do good and expect nothing. That's pure good. But that's exactly what "nice guys" don't do. Normal person will do not give a shit if you need help most of times, but from time to time normal person will do pure good for nothing in return.
So we have nice guys that always look for profit and not nice guys who sometimes help without wanting anything. Who is more moral?
[–]Apples4lyfe20 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're doing the exact same thing with women
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The unfortunate truth is that the asshole has a natural quality that a woman can’t teach the nice guy.
[–]anduxo0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are missing the continuation of this:
Preach 'all guys are the same'... Then just settle for someone I don't love who can provide me the things I am entitled too.
[–]Iappreci8thegr8r8m80 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What in the world does this have to do with MGTOW?
... and become a single mother.
[–]Benifenn0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're getting to the very schematics of the female mind with this meme
[–]Drello160 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She won’t like you just because you’re nice. It’s because there’s something about you that she does not want to date. Just because you’re nice doesn’t mean you’re entitled to get the girl. Get a hair cut, maybe lose weight. Change your wardrobes, social skills. It’s not their fault they don’t like you
[–]ka0t1k0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At least she won't be bored when she's living in poverty with her poor life choices and begging society for socialism to make everyone else pay for her constant poor life choices
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[–]Crusty_Dick0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They always say nice guys finish last. But at the end of the day, they are the last one women come running too after being treated like shit by the bad guy.
[–]Wizard19960 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hmmm... A lot of guys make this mistake too. They date girls for pussy and throw away all ambition and self respect they ever had, even if they are dealing with a shit personality. Doesn't matter if they're Alpha or Beta. They r simp. Just set your standerd and respect yourself. Than other people can respect you too or they will have to leave.
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