WWAWALT?

Uranus_Opposition · 2019-07-20T10:51:22+00:00

Read Shakespeare or Thomas Middleton. Nothing has changed. Their work has different characterizations of women and men. The 50s was just as messed up but people handled it differently.

martynhare · 2019-07-20T12:00:54+00:00

Yes, WWALT (Women Were Always Like That) but natural circumstances and a subset of laws helped to keep things under control.

Historically (in the 1700s-1800s), the difference was they had to keep it secret because in many countries adultery was a criminal offence, punishable by a prison sentence of anywhere from 1 to 5 years. Some societies would even punish the person they cheated with too, even if (s)he is not married or otherwise unable to freely mingle with others. Additionally, many countries had laws that allowed for an annulment where the adulterer would lose all his/her property rights. This meant that the system had deterrents in place that were more effective than most prison sentences. If you were a woman who chose to be unfaithful, you'd likely lose your only means of income (your breadwinning husband) in the process. The result was a life of unsafe prostitution, or if you were particularly good looking, a life of what is essentially indentured servitude to a richer man who'd allow you to live with him (give you a bed to sleep on and food for doing chores but no pay... and the expectation of sex).

Even in countries without such laws, there were also natural systems in place due to historical circumstance. Women having children out of wedlock would not get a penny, nor would the child as they'd be considered a bastard (legally speaking). Wives caught cheating would effectively forfeit parental access if their husband chose to leave them, as they couldn't afford to look after the children thereafter. It was common for men to maintain friendships and bonds with other families so that their children could be raised in a stable household, either in exchange for payment from the father, or more commonly to employ the child when he reaches a working age, to make money for his new guardians. Likewise, if men conducted themselves in an awful, anti-social, degenerate manner, they'd lose their pick of the best available young women. This is because social conventions of the time pretty much required fathers between households to approve a marriage. Men who were not appropriate would not be allowed near an upstanding man's daughter. This helped prevent male degeneracy and reduced the chances of marital problems in the future through making sure that only "decent men" or those who could keep up the appearance of decency, could marry.

People can feasibly live independently these days and modern society tries to fix all problems in an idealistic manner. The end result is that bad people can do bad things and good people are encouraged to make bad decisions to the benefit of everyone except the decision maker. This makes the AWALT problem look like a modern phenomenon.

Many of our more modern issues actually started as early as World War 1, when women were notably allowed to shame men into enlisting in the army. Once that genie came out the bottle, it wasn't going back in, women realised they could use shaming language to get their way and haven't stopped ever since. It's only a matter of time before true equality sets things straight.

WeNeverWent2theMoon · 2019-07-20T11:08:40+00:00

Patriarchy was never a real thing. There has always been a very small group of elites (mostly Jewish) who are at the top of the pyramid (illuminati) they are the ruling class. and the rest of us were and always have been just peasants. The ruling class, to maintain power just toy with the rest of us in various divide and conquer schemes. They get better and better at it as time goes on, and we seem to be getting dumber and dumber, but we live longer.

There was a time when men had more authority and religion was stronger and there was slut shaming. Those days were probably better fir everyone. It wasn't patriarchy though. Women have never been oppressed.

TylerDurden002 · 2019-07-20T11:04:45+00:00

Women were promiscuous before as well just covertly.

wutc · 2019-07-20T12:41:53+00:00

Female nature has always been vile: formerly it was kept in check.

Societies rot when they cease to be mindful of just how bad females are --- this is what has happened to our own sick society.

MGTOWrath · 2019-07-20T11:19:08+00:00

since the Eve's apple?

The apple had nothing to do with it. Eve was born a bitch, Eve died as a bitch.

Iqbal40862715 · 2019-07-20T13:14:46+00:00

Yes - I used to think it was strictly a law and culture thing. Its not

The only difference is people didnt worship women and saw them for what they really are

They kept the worse impulses of human nature in check.

Now its a free for all

Title	WWAWALT?
Author	sem1Colon
Upvotes	10
Comments	12
Date	July 20, 2019 10:21 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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