Fat acceptance and self love

DonMelbourne · 2020-04-29T03:40:15+00:00

For me, the issue with fat acceptance isn't the self-acceptance. Okay, if they're fat and they're okay with it, fair enough. (I think they are being foolishly unhealthy, but it is up to them.)

But it is their insistence that YOU approve it as well which is annoying. YOU have to want to date a fat person, YOU have to find them attractive. That's what's at the heart of modern 'fat acceptance' it seems. No thanks.

Impossible-asset · 2020-04-29T03:38:36+00:00

MGTOW is about walking away from women because the laws that you are subject to have a great number of liabilities for you, and very very few rewards.

Now, that said, staying healthy is a good idea. Physically, financially, mentally, and spiritually if that's your thing.

But... if you CHOOSE to go down a path of sitting around all day and eating garbage, drinking, smoking, and get to be 400 lbs, then that's your choice. It's probably a very bad one because I see lots of old drinkers, some old smokers, but I dont see too many 85 year old fat people, and I dont think I've ever seen an 85 year old fat drunk smoker.

The point is. You do what makes you happy. And its wise to live healthy, but if you want to blaze the same trail as john Candy and Chris Farley, that's up to you. As long as you go out like Lemmy did. Not blaming anyone or bit hing about how unfair things are, then go for it. (RIP the bass player)

CuriousIncel2 · 2020-04-29T06:30:52+00:00

The mistake we make is conflating self acceptance and self love with already being the best version of yourself. Most people think that you will change only if you're unhappy about where you are right now. But it's only after you accept that you're in a bad place and it's okay, that change can happen. That's the first rule in the AA program (correct me if I'm wrong).

Fat acceptance is about forcing others to not judge you, and even worse, avoiding the truth that being fat is unhealthy. Being fat doesn't make you less of a human being, but it doesn't mean that fat is good and you don't need to improve.

DevilComeKnockin · 2020-04-29T11:35:25+00:00

From my observations, the "fat acceptance" movement is almost exclusively female, to the point that I've only ever seen one meme claiming that "body positivity" is for males as well. And we've all seen examples of fat chicks demanding buff guys. Some even blatantly admitting that it's straight up hypocrisy, but "she deserves it."

Altogether, it's mostly slobs and wallcrawlers trying to shame Chad into choosing them over fit women. Deep down, that's still all they care about. See r/fatlogic for endless hamstering.

malmalx · 2020-04-30T00:50:04+00:00

We live in a society where something you can change(weight) is a touchy soft subject but something you cannot change(height) is attacked a good majority towards males.

LonelyBobcat · 2020-04-30T01:34:06+00:00

MGTOW is about loving yourself

Is it though? That never really seemed like one of the key components, you can write off any thing as being about loving yourself with the same logic honestly. All that being said, being fat is not much different than taking in any other vice, we all have them. Even thin people can lead unhealthy lifestyles between exercise, or smoking, or drinking. I'm just not really into policing how 'everyone' should be on some same path.

I'm by no means fat, but I follow self love ideas about taking care of you in terms of entertainment and dining. I'm known in my circles for my killer fried chicken recipe and fine dining (but still high calorie) habits. I had a friend who was more the opposite, self love in terms of taking care of health, with his diet consisting almost entirely of supplements and his free time spent on exercise. He es one of the most muscular men you will ever meet, but unlike most gym-bros who eat a lot of eggs and chicken and rice, he eats straight beef gelatin and such flavorless things.

We formed a fast friendship and took on different aspects of each others personalities as close friends often do. Suddenly I was gaining muscle and going to the gym every day, and he was blowing hundreds of dollars on gourmet burgers and mobster approved steaks. I don't think any of us loved ourselves less before than after or vice versa. We just simply expanded who we are while still maintaining that level of self love.

the point here is that a fat person can still self love in all sorts of ways and definitions other than this one issue, which is often not a matter of simple laziness but the fact that we are force fed addictive fake foods growing up and taught very little impulse control in that regard, and then have to face that addiction as part of our daily routine. A heroin dealer has a hard time kicking their habit, but they don't go to the store and see heroin everywhere. They aren't even required to inject themselves with SOMETHING every day to stay alive the way we need to eat SOMETHING everyday.

The problem with fat acceptance is that it really isn't about whether or not they really love themselves or not. Some do. Some don't. All of them have issues (like any person does). The real issue is that fat acceptance is about forcing others to 'love' you. I won't stop someone from smoking, doing drugs, being an alcoholic, or being lazy as hell, but I'm also not going to love someone for those things and will gladly spit in the face of anyone who claims that I have to or I'm being oppressive. Same logic should apply to fatties.

solaris32 · 2020-04-29T04:34:57+00:00

I find it weird to obsess over other people's quality of life.

I was overweight... 190lbs at 6 feet. I am now 165 lbs for last 2 years.

What others do with themselves is their problem.

imcleverartistname · 2020-04-29T13:14:22+00:00

Trying to hunt that my cousin's obesity is not good hasn't worked yet.

He's proud of his fat, like it makes him unique.

He also has a gf who was fat, then got half hee stomach cut out and is now thin and attractive again.

I await the end of that relationship.

0ggles · 2020-04-29T17:23:12+00:00

I want the men around me to be fat, healthy-looking men who sleep at night. That Cassius over there has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much. Men like him are dangerous.

- Ceasar

TigPlaze · 2020-04-30T16:20:21+00:00

Don't hate yourself for being fat. Just take action to improve your health and lose weight at the same time. Don't buy into any of the "healthy at any weight" bullshit.

XbabyjeezusX · 2020-04-30T21:42:56+00:00

Actually this whole fat acceptance thing has put a dent in my game. Once upon a time fat women were the easiest and best lays. They'd fuck your brains out and then fix you a sandwich. Not to mention they had the biggest tits. Since this shit they started thinking they were super models. Lol

pdiggs1500 · 2020-05-03T02:45:23+00:00

Loving yourself is one thing, which you must do before you can work on any self-improvement. Loving the fact that your fat is another. If you love yourself, you will know that being fat is not healthy, and you will work on making changes. If you don't know how or where to start, then your brothers here will help you out.

Title	Fat acceptance and self love
Author	CalmElk
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Comments	16
Date	April 29, 2020 3:22 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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