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Agree. Thats what I try to spend the day focusing on. There is the 'promote positive role models' pillar that falls under that at least.
/r/MensRights20/11/20 01:08 AM
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we could tweet storm our achievements together.
/r/MGTOW219/11/20 10:19 PM
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how about just you? I did? I donated to several charities and made a docu series for it... are you upset that i responded to you now, that is somehow the same thing as all these people complaining instead of being active? like I'm literally being active in the post by spreading my doc. you seem messed up.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 10:06 PM
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im not pretending that men need to be the ONLY ones to ever do anything, jus that people here should do something instead of whining about inaction. I can't imagine why you would try to take things so literally when you know that isn't what people mean. Care to explain how I can "work on it" Literally look at what people do for any other day of celebration, raising awareness etc. you could organize a charity, you could help an existing charity, you could print posters, you could print shirts, yo…
/r/MensRights19/11/20 09:41 PM
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im not saying men had no hand in it, but women had to work to just get equal rights, let alone womens month, and if you want that you can work at it.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 09:29 PM
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Did I say most men? No. Do women organize 3.5 billion of them for a flash mob each year? No. Is that how they got a stupid google doodle? No. If men wanted to do something they could. Whether it's a million, a thousand, a hundred a dozen, or just you
/r/MensRights19/11/20 08:51 PM
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its always convenient that you want others to do the work but need to sort your own shit out first so can't contribute.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 06:38 PM
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If you want good things to happen for mens day, you gotta do it yourself, thats what women did for womens day. You can't just keep complaining that people don't do cool stuff for a holiday you don't do anything on yourself. For Mens Day This year, I put together a docu series going into the lives of 3 men: a toy designer, a musician, and a man with autism. It is not perfect, but I hope everyone enjoys it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK58chX3NG4&list=PLBFmrYbV1JrUVP_CeIB7EsAXRXuzs6zf2
/r/MensRights19/11/20 06:25 PM
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If you want good things to happen for mens day, you gotta do it yourself, thats what women did for womens day. You can't just keep complaining that people don't do cool stuff for a holiday you don't do anything on yourself. For Mens Day This year, I put together a docu series going into the lives of 3 men: a toy designer, a musician, and a man with autism. It is not perfect, but I hope everyone enjoys it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK58chX3NG4&list=PLBFmrYbV1JrUVP_CeIB7EsAXRXuzs6zf2
/r/MensRights19/11/20 06:25 PM
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Most depressed men and boys around the world will not actively seek out help. That is irrelevant to whether or not the people here can do something about mens day unless you want to insist they are all depressed. I really doubt a google doodle will make men think someone cares and then change the suicide rate. At some point refusing a simple request becomes willful and malicious. and how many years in a row do men complain about something without actually doing anything about the day. Mens day i…
/r/MensRights19/11/20 04:34 PM
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you must be a very slow reader to not be able to get that in 15 minutes, like holy fuck dude. What did I say about hur durring me with exceptions?
/r/MensRights19/11/20 05:57 AM
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it does very little to prove your point.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 05:51 AM
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its not but okay. Don't 'hurr durr' me with some exceptions.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 05:28 AM
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we have different points of view so that means you don't have sex. Do you honestly believe this or are you aware how stupid you sound when you do it?
/r/MensRights19/11/20 05:09 AM
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Wanting something just because someone else has it is very feminist. Lets just focus on doing our own thing for mens day instead of complaining about how no one does anything for mens day.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 04:40 AM
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>genuine friendships between sexes that was your first mistake.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 02:40 AM
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I think it would be easier for them to be together than to live in such isolation this late in life. Maybe im wrong, you do know them better than me, but if you wanted to put them in a place where they'd get in less trouble, a country town with a roommate is the best option. It gives them an excuse to stay in and drink.
/r/MGTOW219/11/20 02:28 AM
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This is rough man, cuz people who make trouble are going to do it anywhere. The cities have a lot of problems but you see quite a lot of people losing their lives to drugs out in the country because they don't feel there is 'as much to do', and someone like your brother sounds like he'd go nuts in isolation. Frankly I think having him move in with your other brother is the bets idea, as it cements some sort of social interaction and they can find fun things to do together. If you need to save mo…
/r/MGTOW219/11/20 01:56 AM
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Who says he didn’t? he did. if he had it would have shown up in the search. We also went on to talk about how you can't expect things without doing it yourself first, and he took the criticism very warmly and realized that there was more he could do and is pretty determined to have at it. I'd recommend reading that thread.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 01:52 AM
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that isn't an appropriate rebuttal, but its been almost an hour and no one else has responded to your post so maybe you should stop acting like an ass and take some constructive criticism.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 12:44 AM
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No I haven't. that was literally all you did until you edited your post but okay.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 12:43 AM
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it seems like you went in a lot of different directions and were not really sure what you are trying to get at here. You might want to read it over a few times and think of what you really mean to say, because a lot of this just seems extra. If your intent was your title, then you only need that last paragraph. you don't need anything about percentages of the population.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 12:10 AM
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but you're not advocating for that in tweets. if you want to do a tweet storm about those subjects, great, but until now all you've sad is to tweet about mens day just to get at feminists.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 12:02 AM
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>I don't see the issue with saying that Other then mens day not being about that, but okay. Why not uplift men instead of trying to fight with feminists?
/r/MensRights18/11/20 11:27 PM
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you need something to say in order for there to be a conversation. If you just want us to talk about how men are as important as women, this is not only going to fail but its going to look really bad.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 11:19 PM
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I'd love to set something up like that here in LA once covid settles down.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 10:50 PM
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that sounds awesome, both constructive and fun.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 10:12 PM
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Nothing matters until you do something about it. It's not like all the other holidays manifested out of nowhere and were universally recognized upon conception. I'm sure someone like you can't understand anything beyond what the masses are telling you is important or worthwhile, but I am no sheep, and what I created for mens day is frankly awesome.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 10:05 PM
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So I have zero sympathy for murdering wives and a LOT of sympathy for men's causes. so yes really.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 09:50 PM
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yeah, its a little late this year anyways, so don't beat yourself up if you can't pull anything together in the next 24 hours, but you have a whole year to plan for next time so I urge you to do something. it doesn't even have to be extreme or in person, but there are a lot of little things you can do beyond just sharing something on social media. That's called arm chair activism. For me, I started working on my mens day project back in August, though with covid there were still so many restrict…
/r/MensRights18/11/20 09:46 PM
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and if a man was unable to divorce his woman, unable to escape her, and he poisoned her, id be chill with that too. Same goes for a woman.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 09:42 PM
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a bit tangential and unrelated really.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 09:41 PM
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And therein lies the problem. You are acting like the world doesn't care, but you don't care enough to even know what they could do to prove they care if they did. Literally look to what happens on womens day if you consider that to be a success and replicate that. Beyond that, you could organize a local event to raise awareness / money for a charity, you can organize a marathon, a walkathon, a challenge like the 'ice bucket' challenge, you could make videos, you could bulk order 50 shirts and h…
/r/MensRights18/11/20 09:23 PM
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feels like he can't escape Not 'feels' that he can't, can't. And that doesn't mean exhausting all other options like going out and living on the streets, but yes, if a man was unable to escape an abusive woman and was unable to fight back, yes, he would be justified. Why do people on this board think they are proving a point by saying 'BUT WHAT IF THE GENDERS WERE REVERSED?' It's a really retarded approach to this. It happens like twice a day and my answer is always the same.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 09:20 PM
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There is only so much I can do You're doing extremely little. Making posts about it doesn't give any reason for anyone else to invest in the day themselves. What do you really want someone else to do here? like if they all just shared mens day memes would you be happy? what would that accomplish? There is only so much one man can do, but you're not meeting that at all, you're just not wanting to put in effort to actually do anything of value and then writing it off as the best you can do. You ca…
/r/MensRights18/11/20 09:07 PM
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It was a lot of fun. The key inspiration for me is that I just really love when people are passionate about something, i can listen to them talk about it all day, but with covid i dont get to meet many people and I work from home, so putting the project together helped me meet a lot of really cool dudes that just have amazing stories to tell. I wish I could have done more segments, I had others lined up but time just didn't work out with some of them.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 09:05 PM
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A website known for its heavy female user base and left leaning sensibilities doesn't have posts about a holiday 99% of people don't know about created by right leaning males? OPPRESSION If you want to change it just make your own damn men's day post. actually do something for men's day. don't just bitch about men's day. Do you actually do anything for womens day? If not, why should you expect anyone else to do something for mens day? just do it yourself man.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 09:00 PM
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even without them 'possibly killing you' if there is no way out then you do what you gotta do. It is not your job to be a victim. It is not your job to get molested and abused just because it would be 'wrong' to kill the person who has already decided that you are their property to do what they want with.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 08:57 PM
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it is 100% absolutely okay to murder someone under the right circumstances. It is not your job to be abused or molested by someone else when there is no avenue of escape. It is certainly not wholesome, that doesn't mean it's not respectable. There are literally laws that protect people who had to murder someone else because there was extenuating circumstances. My older brother threatened to attack me once. I had a gun with me. if he had tried, i would have shot him dead. No remorse. It is not yo…
/r/MensRights18/11/20 08:56 PM
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Last year for mens day i wanted it to be more of a celebration, so i got a pass to a private magicians club in the city and got all the guys together, leaving the ladies at home. With covid, that wasn't as much of an option unfortunately, so i opted a few months back to start working on a docu series just showcasing a few men and their lives / talents. Covid was still a big set back so i only got to make 3 segments about 3 men, but they're coming out alright. its my first time so theres some err…
/r/MensRights18/11/20 07:43 PM
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i think people would feel a lot better about life with shorter work days. removing work entirely is ultimately going to kill a society, but reducing it is nice. People often don't even spend just 8 hours a day at work, plus there is the time traveling, plus there is the time getting ready and winding down, its not surprising that people are out of shape and only have enough time to make an easy dinner and then relax before bed. I lived like that for a few weeks, hated it. Really enjoyed a job i …
/r/MGTOW218/11/20 12:40 AM
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You do it because you want to look a certain way that suits you more. I literally said that in my post. You're also very wrong about the whole cardio and weight lifting somehow being the same thing. im not really sure what ot do with you at tha tpoint, its just wrong. If appealing to others is immoral then all of us are immoral. It's not immoral. I'm not saying its immoral, and there i think lies the issue with this conversation, it seems like you're not actually reading what is said. then you t…
/r/MensRights17/11/20 06:56 PM
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and yet mostly disagreements in the comments. Comments tend to be posted by people who actually read the whole post, upvotes tend to be given by people who scroll by, see the title, maybe the first few sentences, and have a knee jerk reaction.
/r/MensRights17/11/20 05:35 PM
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As a teenager I dated a very frequently because I moved around so much. I wasn't popular at most schools until my senior year by any means, but being new and thrown into an entirely new school usually means some girl is going to find you attractive and not know your embarrassing stories from childhood like she does with all the local boys she'd known all her life. When i was that age i loved the idea of romance and getting married, but about 3 months into each relationship id find myself feeling…
/r/MGTOW217/11/20 05:20 PM
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So I don't know how most of us are treated, but you do. Yes. As evidenced by more people pointing out your lunacy than agreeing with you.
/r/MensRights17/11/20 05:15 PM
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I didn't say you COULDN'T be fit for yourself, just that the idea that you should ONLY do it for yourself is BS, and that people who are claiming they are only doing it for themselves from a moral point are lying to themselves. You can choose to get healthy for yourself, but being 'fit' in an attractive sense is not the same as being healthy, being 'fit' in the attractive sense means working on show muscles, prioritizing your muscle building over cardio. You do it to look good, its completely no…
/r/MensRights17/11/20 04:50 PM
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hes not though. not sure what OPs parents were smoking, but most of us aren't being told this, even subtly. There has been a growing number of people acting this way in recent years, but to say thats what we've been told since kids, when its just your experience, is simply not the norm.
/r/MensRights17/11/20 04:45 PM
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I'm MGTOW myself, so you're preaching to the choir. IS that really true of texas? I'll have to check that out.
/r/MensRights17/11/20 07:51 AM
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You should try to be healthy but only for yourself This is BS. you also contradict yourself with it in the second half so i don't need to explain why its BS. There is literally nothing wrong with changing yourself to appeal to others, people pretending that they are only doing things for themselves as a moral point are just lying to themselves.
/r/MensRights17/11/20 07:50 AM
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Glad someone gets it. Just because these crazies are on the rise doesn't mean they're the norm though. There are still plenty of people who are dating and marrying in their league, not holding out hope that some perfect bodied person will come along and decide to marry / date them.
/r/MensRights17/11/20 07:17 AM
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its maddening. Somehow he is a 'pariah' when literally all men are being treated the same way?
/r/MensRights17/11/20 04:08 AM
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sounds like you had weird parents man. Normal parents dont blame boys for why you can't have sleepovers / have separate bathrooms, though that isn't even the legal reason separate bathrooms were made. When it comes to shelters the issue isn't that some men do bad things, its that an astonishingly large number of women who go to places like this just end up getting assaulted in some way. If overcrowding is an issue you can push for more, you can even push for mens only shelters if you want, but w…
/r/MensRights17/11/20 04:07 AM
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stops blushing over this cute soft guy I am trying to give signals that I like him Notice you said 'soft' and not 'fat' or 'obese'. Regardless, it ignores it my point that fat people can still date, that its not a matter of 'be 6'4" and fit or you will never have a relationship'. You're not salivating over a fat guy, you are interested in a relationship with someone whose attractive is close to your own. To act like you're the norm and not just acting like a brainwashed idiot is simply amazing. …
/r/MensRights17/11/20 01:02 AM
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We don't get to see the before and after messages so for all anyone knows she coulda been responding to someone who got shot down for being short. That wouldn't make it not toxic. Toxicity is not an intent, and that seems to be the big thing you're missing here. I'm not denying that she wants to make ugly men feel better about themselves, but telling someone they are handsome in their own way when they're not doesn't actually help them. The best case scenario is they ignore it, anything beyond t…
/r/MensRights16/11/20 10:27 PM
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If you know for a fact that this is patronising and not a legit sentiment then you're a really good mind reader. You don't have to read minds to know something is patronizing, most people are patronizing without intending to be. By definition, it just means you are thinking yourself as helpful when you're just being condescending. I didn't realise people in here are quite so allergic to someone possibly just being nice. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Just because someone thinks …
/r/MensRights16/11/20 10:16 PM
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I'm 5'6" and had terrible acne that only accutane could stop. Being told 'its okay' doesn't actually change anyones perception about whether or not I am attractive. Just because something is uncontrollable or outside of your control does not mean it isn't ugly. Attractiveness is very often entirely out of our control. Beauty can be enhanced, but if you're born without any of it its not like you can do something to change your face. That doesn't suddenly make you 'beautiful in your own way'. Bein…
/r/MensRights16/11/20 10:11 PM
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heroin makes addicts feel better too anon. Feeling good reading someone patronizing you does not make it good.
/r/MensRights16/11/20 10:06 PM
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i just hate the bullshit like in the OP that tries to reduce mens rights to acting like feminism. Especially when it comes to the stupid parts like body positivity that even half of the feminists dont take seriously.
/r/MensRights16/11/20 09:54 PM
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The female body positivity movement hasn't done anything positive for them. The ones who know better are still going to be upset about the way they look and the ones who are dumb enough to fall for it just end up psychologically damaged because they can't understand why the world doesn't see them as the 10/10 gorgeous person they have convinced themselves they are. Mostly because body positivity as expressed in the tweet DOESN'T change your perspective about other people, only yourself. You don'…
/r/MensRights16/11/20 08:29 PM
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honestly it isn't even a good sentiment. The female body positivity movement hasn't done anything positive for them. The ones who know better are still going to be upset about the way they look and the ones who are dumb enough to fall for it just end up psychologically damaged because they can't understand why the world doesn't see them as the 10/10 gorgeous person they have convinced themselves they are. Mostly because body positivity as expressed in the tweet DOESN'T change your perspective ab…
/r/MensRights16/11/20 08:27 PM
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I'm black. This isn't 'white mens rights', heck the ones actually producing content in this community tend to be brothers. Congratulations on enjoying your genital mutilation. Maybe grab the scalpel again and cut off the other inch they left behind.
/r/MensRights15/11/20 09:03 PM
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you're on the wrong board. What about, you know, ending genital mutilation? fixing the child custody issues men face? Lets not forget unjust alimony... and that is just the legal issues we face, doesn't even get into social issues. Enjoy having tampons up your butt though? seems weird that you brought that up.
/r/MensRights15/11/20 07:51 PM
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idk, we mostly just shitpost here.
/r/MensRights15/11/20 05:20 PM
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My mother would have my brothers and I dress up in her dresses when we were really little, I'm pretty grateful my dad put a stop to it before anything weird happened. I don't think my mother meant anything weird by it, but she is definitely the kind of person who would have gone balls to the walls over trans ideology if it had crossed her path
/r/MensRights15/11/20 05:01 AM
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circle back to my first comment.
/r/MensRights03/11/20 07:16 AM
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But there are points.
/r/MensRights03/11/20 05:29 AM
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nah man, one month of nofap isn't going to give you cancer. if you're that worried, prostate massage can do it. If men want to do nofap to test their limits and see what they are capable of and see what it makes them and how their life is different without it, awesome. trying to act like its a bad thing is weird.
/r/MensRights03/11/20 03:33 AM
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Bojack is a mixed bag with its liberalism. It is very strong when it talks about philosophy, and it is somewhat strong when it uses its characters to have a conversation about the current state of our society. When they do the latter, some characters will say over the top feminist stuff, but it isn't necessarily meant to be the 'answer', but rather part of them showing all aspects and opinions on an issue. On a few hyper liberal issues they really go balls deep on it though and make it clear the…
/r/MensRights27/10/20 04:52 PM
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that doesn't really give her a biological advantage in a fight, does it? That just means she is more likely to be in a lower weight category or be accepted into a lower weight category. That isn't the same as 'advantage'. The whole point of the weight classes is that you don't have a natural advantage over the other person. Men tend to have more of their weight in muscle than women, so isn't that the real biological advantage? In the video she talks about how she got completely decimated by the …
/r/MensRights26/10/20 08:11 PM
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No, as long as its about mens rights. I'm gay. but that doesn't mean i should post about gay rights here. That is what gay rights boards are for. Trying to change what I say to make yourself feel self righteous is pretty dumb.
/r/MensRights25/10/20 09:15 PM
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They probably would. But unless the men want to do it themselves, they couldn't exactly do much about it. As far as I am aware FGM is a literal systemic issue, much like male circumcision here in the west. To act like men are not involved at all and women are just sitting around cutting each others clits off of their own accord is pretty preposterous. Not really. the young men of the group being genocided are the first to die. So tracking those statistics would be good for spotting genocides. Th…
/r/MensRights18/10/20 10:45 PM
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The men approve of it. But the women are still ultimately the ones that do it. is this really the case? If the women just said 'no', the men would have no problem with that? One being legal and the other not being legal is irrelevant. It is extremely relevant. Something is either societal or personal. Men attacking men for being men is pretty dumb. You would think that. But as far as I know, no one is actually keeping track of such statistics. Because its a pretty dumb idea.
/r/MensRights18/10/20 09:56 PM
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is it? are the men not involved in this at all? Do they not perpetuate this custom? Is it not a cultural norm? I mean the same thing is with the circumcision of the US, men do it to us too, but its different when you have something being legal versus random assholes attacking another man for being a man, which isn't a thing. You seemed to have missed my point, men are attacked by other men, what man goes around attacking someone else for being a man? it would be a statistical fraction of a fract…
/r/MensRights18/10/20 08:58 PM
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I mean, who would be doing it? yeah once in a while a gaggle of teenage girls decides to punch down at an autistic boy, but if men are being assaulted randomly, which it would have to be for just being men, it tends to be by other men. have you ever heard of a girl going out and assaulting a stranger? I mean slapping a stranger, but even if that is legally assault and should be charged, are we really comparing that to the sheer power a 5'6" 140 pound dude already has over a woman twice his size?…
/r/MensRights17/10/20 07:21 PM
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that answer aside, is it possible that this San francisco based sex shop just caters to the gays predominantly?
/r/MensRights12/10/20 10:14 PM
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not all men, just all men until there is a 1:1 ratio in gender. still stupid as all hell, but she isn't suggesting that men become a lesser sex.
/r/MensRights11/10/20 01:38 AM
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As a general rule if you can post here without regularly going out of your way to say that you are trans, or gay, or anything else, then you belong here. Belonging to a board or a rights movement is really just about whether or not you are contributing and helping. If, for some reason, you find yourself just talking about gay rights or trans rights and insisting its a men's rights issue because 'you're a man therefore its men's rights' then you don't really belong here. Belonging has nothing to …
/r/MensRights10/10/20 11:00 PM
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Homosexual rights are not men's rights, the same way that black rights are not men's rights. just because there is overlap in these identifiers does not mean one groups issue is now the other groups issue. It doesn't mean that you have to avoid helping other groups, but it also doesn't mean you need to blindly follow other groups too. The question is whether or not the issue effects men, if so then its a men issue. But if it only effects gay men then no, its a gay issue (or majority gay men). We…
/r/MensRights10/10/20 10:57 PM
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Being purposely absurd doesnt make you sound more valid it just makes you sound more absurd. You can't walk and chew gum at the same time if you're just going to trip over your own shoes, and that's what this does, it makes the entire world look at Men's rights and laugh about how absurd they are. By all means, go where your skirt, you literally have the right to wear a skirt. I just also literally have the right to no you're being ridiculous and advancing a pointless cause that does nothing to …
/r/MensRights06/10/20 05:13 PM
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women wearing mens attire doesn't change any of my points. Honestly, men are being made into slaves by their ex-wives and their government, forced to pay for kids that aren't theirs, forcing to pay for kids that they never get to see, and having their genitals mutilated at birth, but somehow 'wearing skirts' has become such a hot topic in this community and it drives me insane. No school or business should have to accept men cross dressing. Different cultural norms for the genders is not sexism,…
/r/MensRights06/10/20 09:37 AM
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You pay for the justice system but that doesn't mean you get to swear in court. You pay for schools, but that doesn't mean they have to let you dress any way you want.
/r/MensRights06/10/20 03:49 AM
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Just don't fight it. Thats rapist talk. It's the "because you are a man" that does it. That still isn't men's rights. I mean first off, you have the right to wear whatever you want. That doesn't mean that someone has to hire you, or keep you employed, or let you into their school, whether public or private. This isn't men's right, its men erasure.
/r/MensRights06/10/20 02:55 AM
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> Some men don't care what kind of man a woman wants. Some men want to be able to put on a skirt. That's fine, but that doesn't mean the whole world has to change to accommodate it. That isn't a matter of 'empathy', it's just a guy who wants to wear a skirt for christs sake. if I hire someone do I have to keep them employed if they show up in a skirt every day? How is a school with actual uniforms any different? Empathy isn't for teenagers who aren't trans but like the idea of wearing a skirt. T…
/r/MensRights06/10/20 12:02 AM
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This is not men's rights really. It is okay that men and women have different types of clothes that are considered socially acceptable. Men's rights does not mean removing men's culture, it does not mean removing any distinctions between men and women, whether cultural or biological.
/r/MensRights05/10/20 10:05 PM
1

I'm not discounting the statistic. Pedophiles should be held accountable for pedophiles actions. But the other 97% of men should not. Its literally not even an argument. 1 in 35 is less than 3% of men. So what? I'm sure its true. Doesnt make men as a whole responsible or somehow tainted by them.
/r/MensRights05/10/20 03:00 PM
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We don't need to any more than black men with crime statistics. If youre not a pedophile youre not a pedophile. Acting like 34 other people are accountable for the pedophilia is pretty stupid and theyd sure hate it if we turned that around with the pedophilia rate among homosexuals.
/r/MensRights05/10/20 01:20 AM
3

Jesus Christ life is becoming nightmarish. Time to start Mantarctica
/r/MGTOW202/10/20 01:30 AM
2

God bless this woman. I think one thing to highlight her point should just be 'Yes, all men are happy in their marriages until the divorce comes and suddenly they lose the rights to their money, their property, and their children, but are still responsible. Just being responsible for a woman who does nothing for you and refuses to let you see your children is not going to make you a man.
/r/MGTOW201/10/20 05:02 PM
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Pretty maddening. Men are always wrong ,women are always right, and its a mans job to do whatever to make a woman happy, but he is morally wrong for going out and chasing his own happiness. Whats real sad is everyone is basically upset that there was a 'fluke', that it turned out he could conceive.
/r/MensRights27/09/20 11:21 PM
1

you have to have supervision to talk to your adult son? is he not a legal adult? how can they enforce this? what the fuck
/r/MensRights26/09/20 07:00 PM
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Whether or not women are favored. The question is whether or not men have rights that women don't.
/r/MensRights21/09/20 04:41 AM
1

Not even religious conservatism, it is a myth that pro-life is a religious standpoint. If you can acknowledge that the thing growing in you is alive and its own person, which we all know it is, then you can't just kill it. Otherwise you end up with the bill in new york where you can still kill the baby after its out of the womb. Real human consciousness often doesn't begin until after 6 months of being outside the womb. Regardless of if you think it is open for debate or not, women still have th…
/r/MensRights21/09/20 04:38 AM
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that isn't really here nor there.
/r/MensRights21/09/20 04:25 AM
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do you know of any rights that men have that women don't? Even a look at more feminist websites have given up on talking about 'women's rights' and instead focus on social issues or perceived inequality in the economy. None of this comes down to rights. Men meanwhile don't have the right to bodily autonomy, they can still be forced to pay for kids that aren't theirs, we can't actually get access to many of our rights without first registering in the draft, and even in things that are technically…
/r/MensRights21/09/20 03:42 AM
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The OA, The Dark Crystal, The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina (As evil often, but even the villains are strong, in addition to the good men, who end up saving the day when sabrina can't) supergirl, even the recent feminist version of the terminator had its men being strong, the hunger games (peta was weak, but gale was not, it was a concept of class). And thats just stuff from the last few years and off the top of my head. I'm totally aware that many feminist films show men acting stupid and weak…
/r/MensRights20/09/20 11:35 PM
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Something is eithwr worth its investment or not. Whether or not they dominate comea down to money and this is an experimental era. I'm not saying that this doesnt happen, I clearly said it does, but go look at the vast majority of movies and its strong men. Keep in mind that feminist story also is not the same as a story that makes men look weak.
/r/MensRights20/09/20 04:47 PM
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Are you sure? I've seen some movies and TV shows do this sure, but they are usually oriented towards women, which is... fine? thats just female movies for females for the most part. You mention star wars but even that has strong male characters both good and bad, and the other big franchises out there like fast and furious, marvel, DC, strong men all around. I mean if you type in 'big movies 2019', none of them that I have seen or know quite a bit about seem to have that problem either. Let the …
/r/MensRights20/09/20 04:01 AM
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Fuck that was a rough one to read. How did we get to this point?
/r/MensRights18/09/20 12:10 AM
2

Its actually pro sharia law / immigration for girls.
/r/MensRights17/09/20 05:21 PM
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I would love to see something like that here in Los Angeles. Meetup was popular here for a while, but it really fizzled out, and unfortunately a lot of it was domination from older men, at least in the groups i experienced. Heck, even board games nights I would go to would have men 50+ with me being the only person in their 20s. I think most young men just don't think going to a group would help with making friends, perhaps those facing isolation are too nervous to try it anyways, and when they …
/r/MensRights17/09/20 02:40 AM
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And how would you know, were you there? I don't need to be at walmart to know that two women aren't causing a clothing shortage, thats just basic math dude. Why would my writing about my experience bother you so much? Because you are a joke, and make the movement look like a joke by extension. You not wanting men to talk about their experiences is THE problem men face. Yes, you're right, the problem that men face is just me, right here, right now, pointing out how insufferable you in particular …
/r/MensRights16/09/20 04:44 PM
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moobs are disgusting.
/r/MensRights16/09/20 04:41 PM
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> to buy men's clothes so less clothes for us oh my fucking god, what is wrong with this board this week, there is not some shortage of mens clothes because a few girls went and tried on the pants, grow the fuck up dude.
/r/MensRights16/09/20 06:01 AM
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Glad someone here is sane.
/r/MensRights16/09/20 05:53 AM
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No, this is a path for centralisation of control of the DV industry. You're being hyperbolic, but you're treating it like its literal. No, she isn't trying to control the DV industry, nor is the male founded white ribbon campaign. It isn't an 'industry' for christs sake. "Raising awareness" is a euphemism for spreading my own opinions around. Sure, if you want to call it that, but there are good opinions and bad opinions, and you're pretending their bad opinions cuz you're just anti woman at thi…
/r/MensRights16/09/20 02:07 AM
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I think her real motive is to pose as someone "work(ing) to battle the problem of domestic violence" while actually doing nothing to help. On the contrary, she is literally encouraging organizations to seek accreditation. She isn't just saying 'hey stahp beating womenz' she is highlighting a path for how places can make it happen, with an organization that was founded by men as a peer mentor group. this does literally nothing to stop men (or women for that matter) from creating an organization t…
/r/MensRights16/09/20 01:33 AM
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is she denying it? I went to re-read it again to be sure, but it doesn't seem to deny it at all, or in any way negatively impact the service availability for men. Her focus is helping women. My advice, which I gave to everyone so far, is if it really is an issue then you should do what she is doing, not whining about what she is doing. Homeless shelters for homos doesn't negatively impact homeless shelters for men, i dont see why this is any different.
/r/MensRights16/09/20 01:24 AM
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Stop making excuses for discrimination I'm not. by all means, spend your days complaining about how women are trying to solve their problems instead of trying to solve mens problems.
/r/MensRights16/09/20 12:22 AM
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Domestic violence can never be solved if people are going to ignore the female perpetrators sure, but her goal is to just help women who are being abused, and her organization does that. It would be much more productive to do what she is doing instead of bitching and moaning about it, cuz no matter how much you do that you know it won't change.
/r/MensRights15/09/20 11:56 PM
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A lot of issues that affect men predominantly also affect women. We get mad that we don't talk about how high the male suicide rate is, even though there is a lot of talk about how high the suicide rate is in general. But here we can see that a woman is trying to help other women facing a particular issue and you're upset that it doesn't include men. And what about the homelessness with gay you? Are they not allowed to have their own things and homelessness exists for everyone? If this issue is …
/r/MensRights15/09/20 10:56 PM
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I do do the things I want, i still get insulted. I'm glad that wasn't your experience, but I get treated like I'm being gaudy instead of just wearing a shirt with a peculiar stripe on it.
/r/MensRights15/09/20 10:50 PM
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you kind of contradict yourself a bit when you say "But I don't think men are half as mean to each other as you think they are..." and then "OH and I LOVE painting my nails. I particularly like to see how people react to my zero fucks." so clearly you know that going outside of the norm provokes other men. I can only speak for what I've seen adn what I've experienced, but that has been that even gay men have tried to put me down just for wearing a nice shirt to a bar.
/r/MensRights15/09/20 10:28 PM
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I totally believe we should have a place to rant and rave about our issues and what 'the other side' is doing, but the bitching and moaning has become so bad that so many people are just being retarded male feminists. Someone was upset today that its okay for baby cherub male fountain statues to be peeing but its weird to see a woman statue peeing. Like that is somehow oppressive. Meanwhile the feminists would argue the inverse, that its the females oppressed because their bodily functions are s…
/r/MensRights15/09/20 10:17 PM
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congratulations, you're disgusting.
/r/MensRights15/09/20 10:15 PM
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First and foremost, there are a lot of clothes that are 'female' but that men can wear without being called a cross dresser or be told they are cross dressing, they are just wearing a 'woman's shirt'. Cross dressing is when you don't just put on something for a woman but you go out of your way to wear exclusively women's clothes in a particular outfit, and generally do other things to yourself like makeup or a wig. the intent is to look like a woman in all aspects, not to just walk around in a c…
/r/MensRights15/09/20 10:12 PM
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a whole lot of this. Womens clothes, even at plus sizes, are literally designed to fit a womans body. It is literally cross dressing. YES, clothes can be gender based, i mean what the hell are you supposed to do with all that extra room where the boobs go?
/r/MensRights15/09/20 09:58 PM
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of course, you're chopping off part of your genitallia, specifically part of it that feels pleasure, it isn't just a wrap around the head, it has nerve endings in it that effects your sexual pleasure. Beyond that, it also makes your penis head dry out, which you may think is normal but its not, look at any uncut dude and you'll see it is soft and moist, cuz its a gland. It is suppose to be sensitive. Take any part of your vagina for instance that is moist. Now imagine if at a young age that just…
/r/MensRights15/09/20 09:14 PM
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yes, I am saying that male circumcision (or really, any circumcision) and alimony are bad. My point is that there are some things that are sexist issues, and somethings that are just sex based differences.
/r/MensRights15/09/20 08:32 PM
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Jesus dude, get ahold of yourself. She didn't say only women get sexually harassed or attacked, but lets not deny that it is way more common for women to be bothered by men, it is men's job (both biologically and culturally) to pursue women. Regardless, even if it was perfectly 50/50, what she says doesn't indicate otherwise. She is a woman. She is the target of male sexual attention, both good and bad. So what would she do without men? Enjoy certain things where she wouldn't have to worry about…
/r/MensRights15/09/20 07:45 PM
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Honestly, I kind of agree with the artist, but I'm not sure why. Perhaps it is cultural, were raised seeing the boy statues so that's okay, but if I hadn't been raised seeing those I would think it was weird or gross too. It may also just be because men peeing outside is somewhat 'normalized', particularly little boys. While I am sure that this plays into culture and vice versa, i remember running around outside and if I needed to take a leak, I just would, as would my friends, but you never saw…
/r/MensRights15/09/20 07:25 PM
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This isn't really an option. Even people who hide their wealth to avoid alimony do end up paying alimony, just not as much, you can't really make it so convoluted that the judge wont just side with the woman at some point
/r/MensRights15/09/20 07:33 AM
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god that makes sickening sense.
/r/MGTOW215/09/20 07:26 AM
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I think you guys go too far in the anti-woman direction here. This isn't claiming it was the norm, it calls her wonder woman not 'the average woman'. The inspiration isn't an idea that women were all doing this but that men hid the truth and are oppressing them, the truth is just that women can do great and wonderful things, or even just things that they aren't known for doing as much as men are. This isn't about the norm, this is about potential. This isn't women are so badass' in the sense tha…
/r/MensRights15/09/20 06:12 AM
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You have not yet explained how it's blatantly wrong to say that gay men suffering the most is in some way due to misandry. Religion. I'm not playing this game, were not going to be male feminists, and were not going to debate amongst ourselves about it. You can either acknowledge the history of religion in relation to homosexuality, or you can insist that men are just universally oppressed from day 1 like feminists do. your call.
/r/MensRights15/09/20 03:40 AM
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its not a false stereotype. yes you can have masculine gays, but they did studies on this, they come up as, and identify as, more feminine than straight men altogether. It's not misandry or misogyny, homophobia is rooted in a lot of various issues, but the most influential one is just religion. I'm not saying gender doesn't play a role because we know that gay men are generally treated worse than lesbians, but to try and reduce everything to misogyny and misandry is not just blatantly wrong, but…
/r/MensRights14/09/20 10:14 PM
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its barely even getting feminist support, with most of the twitter mob being reallyfucking against it. I watched the film to see what the fuss was, and it could have done a few things better, but it was a really cool look at a culture clash.
/r/MensRights14/09/20 04:15 AM
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wasnt this guy banned from this board already?
/r/MensRights14/09/20 03:45 AM
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yeah, I saw that one. It is fucking insane and some people are acting like its no big deal because 'well he had proposed several times and was paying for everything anyways', like what the actual fuck is he fighting against if not for 10 years of forced slavery just because you dated a woman and then broke up? The man had proposed, but they could not agree on a marriage contract, btu they are acting like that makes them married even though IT IS LITERALLY THE REASON THEY DIDN'T GET MARRIED. Appa…
/r/MGTOW213/09/20 08:42 PM
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legally, you can seemingly face the same challenges men do in regards to women, but the question is whether or not you really fear those issues or if you are more interested in MGTOW as it feels like a way to further validate your journey into trying to become a man. Lots of people here aren't 'ideal' MGTOWs. There are gay people who hang out here, even though the issues that make men go MGTOW do not affect gay people. There are also a lot of straight incels who come here that are using it as a …
/r/MGTOW213/09/20 08:08 PM
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jesus, that is some cringe man.
/r/MGTOW213/09/20 07:48 PM
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My brother was what my parents called 'a bully', but to such an extreme that it really was abusive, and it just felt like there was no escaping it. I was only a year younger, but I was very literally half his size, I was extremely short and skinny. When I was 50 pounds he was well past 100. He was allowed to break my things and hurt me, but if I tried to talk to my parents I was a tattle tale and told 'that's just what big brothers do'. If I fought back my parents would then decide that we don't…
/r/MGTOW213/09/20 07:26 PM
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I refuse to use it. When you sit down and break down exact definitions you can say 'yes, toxic masculinity exists', but feminists (and really people) never use it at that definition and always use it as a broad excuse to blame men for everything and erase any woman's fault in it, and they will never use the same for toxic femininity.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 05:57 PM
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A lot. I finished my first novel and released it as a seven part creepy pasta series, and today I am releasing my first animated video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxUDT7iWvpg
/r/MGTOW213/09/20 04:29 PM
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You're doing as much as you feel you can without hurting your relationship with him. That isn't a bad place to be, even if it doesn't lead anywhere good.
/r/MensRights10/09/20 05:36 AM
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divorce is relatively new. It existed before, but it was considered a special ocassion sort of thing and people didn't separate the way they do today and not nearly at the same rates. Whether it was better or worse depends on the time and place, there were places where men came out on top, but arguably it was in eras where alimony actually made sense. This is actually why courts favor women now, because 'back in the day' women did not have the means to take care of themselves and would only leav…
/r/MensRights06/09/20 05:59 PM
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And heads up, this is coming from a guy who is writing stories with literally zero female characters and with 100% male staff, you know you have a problem when the guy writing a man-only story (both on screen and behind the scenes) is telling you that you fucked up.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 05:31 PM
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havent seen it and dont plan to. I stopped watching netflix after they cancelled the OA unless it is something i have to watch for work.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 05:24 PM
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still wouldn't call it 'forced' or 'unnecessary' for a female lead / role though, you should do some serious self examination dude.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 05:17 PM
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That doesn't sound forced. Maybe over the top feminist, but not forced. Netflix does have a problem with over the top feminism though, the whole industry does. That new terminator movie was hilarious with that.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 05:00 PM
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I think you're looking at the metaphor backwards. They're trying to compare men / the patriarchy to satanism. They're not actually blaming Satanism for anything they're using it as a way to insult men and the society we built claiming its evil.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 03:47 AM
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You don't need a reason to have a female lead, there is no such thing as 'forcing' a female lead, jesus christ dude. Don't get me wrong, I roll my eyes at shitty 'feminist' heroes like the new Sabrina the teenage witch, but I adore classic buffy. Neither are forced, one is just stupidly feminst with the other being proactively feminist.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 02:24 AM
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Not when so much of behavior is defined by being that group. If I said i hate skaters or anime fans this wouldnt be an issue, but not liking the general cukture and behavior of women is not okay just because youve been brainwashed to believe that either theyre no different than men, oe you're just not allowed to hate something.
/r/MensRights04/09/20 11:32 PM
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Hating someone doesn't mean they are bad people. You can hate good people. we live in this time where everyones expected to pretend that they love all people just because there is an understanding that even in a group that you are not comfortable with there may be good people you enjoy in there. and a lot of people here are just saying they dont hate women because of fear of being talked down to or insulted. That doesn't mean everyone here is lying, just that a lot of people really do just hate …
/r/MensRights04/09/20 11:00 PM
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check my history, I'm clearly not.
/r/MensRights04/09/20 10:52 PM
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its okay to hate women. It doesn't mean you think they are lesser, it doesn't mean you think they should have fewer rights, it doesn't mean you want them removed from society, it doesn't even mean you'd vote against their interests, some people just hate women.
/r/MensRights04/09/20 06:57 PM
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where my fellow woman haters at?
/r/MensRights04/09/20 06:55 PM
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No, unless you plan on cutting your dick off or making out with dudes, claiming bisexual is the only option.
/r/MensRights04/09/20 06:37 AM
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i dont really care for karma.
/r/MensRights04/09/20 04:12 AM
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im being sarcastic more than anything.
/r/MensRights04/09/20 02:38 AM
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So every guy can just claim to be bisexual and go outside?
/r/MensRights03/09/20 11:45 PM
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I mean you have to look at context as well. They are cartoon characters, and I really doubt any commentary, subconscious or not, was really put into these characters. Goofy, as a name, tells you everything you need to know about the character. Mickey, meanwhile, was just as 'goofy' in his early appearances as well, and really in most of his appearances: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxf-UHuGobI i mean our introduction to the character is him tripping down the stairs and then slipping on a bar …
/r/MensRights02/09/20 06:30 PM
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you don't, just keep it a private part of your life, in a few weeks she'll know you are still into mens rights but she'll get over it becuase nothing has actually changed. She'll still argue if you bring it up of course, but just don't bring it up, she's your mom.
/r/MensRights02/09/20 02:36 AM
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lmao, based sexist Disney.
/r/MensRights01/09/20 11:16 PM
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I may be thinking of one particular canon over the other, but wasn't part of the reason that he wanted to be able to provide for them better?
/r/MensRights01/09/20 10:54 PM
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Disney is filled with a lot of good men with odd family dynamics. I mean Donald was taking care of his triplet nephews for instance.
/r/MensRights01/09/20 06:01 PM
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I think one thing you have to ask is why you are proud of your gender. An issue men have, I think, is that when we think of the successes of men we tend to think of them as the successes of society, and since we are the most active agents in a society broken down to just two types of people (women and men) we don't really think of other mens accomplishments as our own unless they're so big that it just becomes a societal thing, especially in this day and age where we operate under the assumption…
/r/MensRights01/09/20 06:00 PM
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its a shame, but i mean you can't really expect cultural ideas of what men need to be and women need to be to switch so dramatically. It is considered good when a girl is childish or 'cute', so women with autism tend to be treated nicely. Men are supposed to be mature, serious, and in control, so men with autism are often treated poorly, at best they're treated as someone to keep at arms length. Workplace wise I think we can change things, and among men I think we are starting to treat each othe…
/r/MensRights01/09/20 04:38 AM
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Well, thats why OP made s thread about it.
/r/MensRights31/08/20 01:12 AM
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Its not a joke. Not A social contract, THE social contract. Literally, our culturally accepted idea of what is socially okay or not.
/r/MensRights30/08/20 05:23 PM
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The social contract says women are not inherently offended by being called cute.
/r/MensRights30/08/20 08:42 AM
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This board has a 'diverse' set of men, there seems to be a really large faction that are red and a smaller but still large faction that is blue. Sometimes it's a bunch of guys thinking that women need to be more like men, and other times its men thinking we need to be more like women.
/r/MensRights30/08/20 03:10 AM
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I think the best case scenario is that if you do find a guy 'cute' (barring being a homo of course) it is going to feel more insulting than complimentative. Men think of 'cute' as something smaller than them, something fragile, something childish and oftentimes something 'stupid' to some degree (like a kid or a pet). I've been in contexts where I've referred to men as cute, but its generally pretty backhanded (even if part of friendly banter).
/r/MensRights30/08/20 01:42 AM
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> It baffles me how people in general,not just some people on this sub,will try to claim that every behavioral difference between the sexes is caused by social conditioning. And worse, that something needs to be done about it. There are things we can improve in regards to male dynamics for sure, but it is okay for men and women to have different 'cultures' from each other, we don't need to act the same, dress the same, or be treated the same. And why is it that when it comes to this sort of thin…
/r/MensRights30/08/20 01:41 AM
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I think every man should try a 30 day challenge just for the fun and to see joe far you go its more fun to do it with friends (no homo) so you can vent thosr frustrations. As for actual results it varies. An alcoholic who quits alcohol will find his oife greatly improved. A normal guy will have the same life but without beer.
/r/MGTOW201/08/20 09:39 PM
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Thank god
/r/MensRights01/08/20 12:49 AM
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Doing projects or hobbies helps. I make movies for fun so I tend to meet actors by casting them and befriending those I hit it off with. When I wasn't doing That i did board game nights and anime meet ups. I find I make better friends with people I worked on projects for.
/r/MGTOW201/08/20 12:43 AM
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Hahaha hahaha. Ive never been called that.
/r/MGTOW231/07/20 03:54 PM
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You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
/r/MensRights31/07/20 03:53 PM
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Thats safe. Ill still be saying bros before hos though.
/r/MensRights31/07/20 07:29 AM
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in everyone elses defense, 'fries before guys' doesn't reduce guys to anything other than, well, guys. "Hos" on the other hand reduces women to prostitutes. I'm not saying we shouldn't be saying it either, they've made male equivalents like fuc bois, and such, but comparing a joke about wanting fries instead of a boyfriend to men swearing loyalty to each other over women as a whole, who they refer to as hookers, is kind of silly. And again, that doesn't mean we shouldn't say 'bros before hos' or…
/r/MensRights31/07/20 03:54 AM
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some people shouldn't drink, some people shouldn't smoke, some shouldn't eat junk food, etc. etc. were all on our own paths with our particular vices that drag us down. Me personally I work well with a fleshlight. I enjoy it off and on, but dont need to use it everytime or even most times, its more of a special treat for me. Even masturbation its self, I can go weeks without doing it like I am now (the desire just never arises when visiting family, even if its a month long trip). But nofap exist…
/r/MensRights31/07/20 03:46 AM
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Of course, but u dont think amyone is passionate or reslly excited about those things, I even nention in my first post "other than bars or clubbing" or something to that effect. I know nothing about dinosaurs but meeting someone who cant shut up about them was a highlight of my day.
/r/MGTOW230/07/20 08:17 PM
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everyone's different, but it sounds like it would lead to shallow relationships if you can't at least appreciate that other people appreciate other things. Being a woman who says men shouldn't post pictures of their fish because theory aren't going to be aroused with it is the height of ego. I'm passionate about passion I guess, so much so that I'm putting together a docu series where guys can juts talk about subjects that get them excited.
/r/MGTOW230/07/20 05:31 PM
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You're going to have to backup your "caveman instincts" theory as it relates to women and their supposed gender wide mocking of fleshlights with some peer reviewed documents. I really don't have to, if you're not that smart then you can go do the research, but its pretty common knowledge that were driven by instincts that are leftover from our time as 'cavemen' and a large part of that for women is securing a sexual partner solely for herself so that he has no one else to protect but her and her…
/r/MensRights30/07/20 05:29 PM
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I love that shit, especially if a guy hits back and the girl cries like 'BUT I DIDN'T HIT YOU THAT HARD!!1!'. It is amazing that someone will commit a literal crime and then think that they deserve to set the standard, that you're only allowed to 'break the rules' to the same level they did when they know damn well they shouldn't have done it at all. Saw this happen on a bus once where a 6th grade girl hit a 5th grade girl, so her 6th grade brother gave her a smack and said 'dont hit my sister'.…
/r/MensRights30/07/20 05:19 PM
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give us examples? I love this sort of analysis.
/r/MGTOW230/07/20 05:16 PM
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While I appreciate the humor, I really don't like the idea that guys aren't allowed to just be proud of themselves and something they did. If you don't like it specifically, if it's not a turn on to you, that is fine, but why can't guys just put up something that they love and enjoyed and found impressive and you can either appreciate that they appreciate it or move along? For me, I tend to get excited about things that people are excited about, nothing makes me happier than seeing someone get r…
/r/MGTOW230/07/20 05:15 PM
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It is definitely a mixed bag. Men don't really see it as a self respect issue for themselves, we want to be seen as sexual. Women do too on some level, you don't put on make up, heels, bras, etc. just for yourself. I'm not saying you can't look good for yourself of course, but its a reciprocal relationship. That doesn't mean they want to be catcalled of course though, the intent on both sides would be to attract someone of high value. Also, the idea sexualization for men is different for women, …
/r/MensRights30/07/20 05:12 PM
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I think you should free yourself from this leverage without resorting to low vibration pron To me its like booze or junk food. I'm not going to become a health nut, I'm not going to be sober, watching porn hasn't stopped me from filming a movie or writing a novel, so whats the problem with enjoying myself? Everything is bad for you.
/r/MensRights30/07/20 04:46 PM
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Kinda depends what you mean about catcalling. A lot of people think of it as just guys yelling compliments, but what some people think of it is the actual sexualized remarks like 'show us your tits' and 'nice ass' and such. Not that a man would mind being told 'nice ass', but its a mixed bag. In some cases I do wonder if its okay to just have a double standard. Men, as a rule, seem to enjoy this kind of attention. Women, as a rule, do not. Would it be the end of the world for it to be okay for a…
/r/MensRights30/07/20 04:43 PM
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the problem is a lot of men want to turn this into male feminism, but its just not wrong to sexualize people. We shouldn't be fighting for the rock to cover up his body, we just should pay no mind to women bitching about females being sexualized.
/r/MensRights30/07/20 04:15 PM
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Because the ultimate goal of feminism is to control men, whether they realize it or not. They really want us under their thumb. Anytime you have a good argument on something they're doing they turn it into 'GOOD LUCK GETTING LAID WITH THAT ATTITUDE'. So clearly they don't want social equality, what they want is power. They take what they can legally and then basically insist that you won't have sex if you don't give in on other ideas, hoping (or even believing) that other women will hold you to …
/r/MensRights30/07/20 04:12 PM
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How is it not similar to saying 'all lives matter'? It's simply not a slogan. We don't go around saying 'MENS RIGHTS!' and instead have a lengthy list of issues, both legal and cultural, that we want to see addressed. In regards to it being a distraction for bigger issues, feminism is also a 'distraction' from bigger issues. Is the number of females talking in a movie really more important than homelessness, starvation, general poverty, the number of kids who are illiterate, the fact that we get…
/r/MensRights30/07/20 04:05 PM
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Hypocrisy is definitely an issue, its hard to address it I think especially with only titles when Sharing a link or image on Reddit. I just don't want us to become the thing we hate, and a lot of posts kn this board are just mirroring feminism like being upset about jokes and the faux-body-positivity and such.
/r/MensRights30/07/20 06:57 AM
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This ones funny at least
/r/MensRights29/07/20 10:23 PM
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Not necessarily ? Yes necessarily. People who have sex aren't claiming to be incels. You concieved and misunderstood it Nope, the fact that your follow ups were in line with my assumption shows your real intentions. No shit sherlock And yet you act retarded, eh?
/r/MensRights29/07/20 06:01 PM
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The /s seemed to be about whether or not I should keep working out. says every incel ever So does every person who isn't an incel. Are you just stupid? you're also just wrong, I never said is about just attracting women. And yet you treated it like it was. Playing dumb doesn't make you sound smart.
/r/MensRights29/07/20 05:48 PM
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I'm not an incel. You're also just wrong, fitness means more than just attracting women.
/r/MensRights29/07/20 05:17 PM
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Frankly, I dont. Iused to hang out with a lot of women just because geek girls were easy social circles to break I to (militart kid, 5 high schools) but the minute I startes playing rugby my senior year I realized id been living my childhood all wrong. The closest I have to female friends are female co-workers. While there can be issues, just like with any dynamic, I have yet to be put in a position that is intolerable.
/r/MGTOW229/07/20 03:35 PM
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This is garbage. Were not women, we dont need to be treated like 4 year olds who are unable to even acknowledge that parts of our bodies might be ugly. All thia does is make me crinfe and want to step up my work out.
/r/MensRights29/07/20 03:24 PM
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MGTOW is less about the nature of women and more about how that nature is exacerbated by our curre t culture and legal system. As such, a lot of women of the previous generations aren't spoiled the way our younger generations have been. Some are and there are issues, but just like many MGTOW still have female friends, they can also have female family and just make sure that they don't fall into any negative patterns with them
/r/MGTOW229/07/20 03:19 PM
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Thank you. I'm glad you took it understandingly.
/r/MensRights26/07/20 09:20 PM
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I don't mean this as an insult, but that is very shallow perspective on it, hopefully I can sway your opinions on it. Story telling, even 'realistic fiction' is not meant to be interpreted very literally. Take the film 'the outsiders', for instance. While it can be extra relatable to men who grew up in gang territories, its not about being in a gang. The theme of the movie is 'nothing gold can stay', the idea that you are golden as a child and growing up and becoming a part of the darker world m…
/r/MensRights26/07/20 07:59 PM
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There is a lot of nitpicking here and a lot of users are just poating stupid feminist stuff. There are actual goals of the movement though. Wed like an end to male circumcision. Wed like an end to alimony or at least have it made more reasonable, women aren't helpless anymore they dont need a man supporting them their whole lives. Equal custody rights only exist in some states and even in those states the overwhelming majority of the time it favors women. Socially it wouls be great if people as …
/r/MensRights26/07/20 04:31 PM
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Like mens rights issues that we discuss here? No. But shows that focus more on male journeys? Nowhere boys fornthe younger crowd. Supernatural for the slightly older crowd. Breaking bad for the adult crowd. Sopranos for the old man crowd.
/r/MensRights26/07/20 04:22 PM
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No, definutely not. In the last few years hes decided to give up to some degree but until then it was something he wanted but failed at getting. Weve had many conversations about it.
/r/MGTOW225/07/20 04:47 PM
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About 27 or so. He was shredded, handsome, tall enough, but never dated or banged. Home school isnhia excuse but his other friends from a circle of homeschooled kids all do well tnough
/r/MGTOW225/07/20 04:10 AM
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Asking the question was a contradiction, she knew good and well what she was doing, and she knew it was hypocritical, she knew why he was asking and the issues with her answer.
/r/MensRights23/07/20 04:10 PM
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this is not surprising. I had a friend who worked for a hardcore feminist lesbian whose key rants were about women needing more opportunities, better jobs, bigger promotions, etc. but my friend realized that she hired 99% men, and at some point had stopped hiring women altogether. He asked her why and she said that men just do what they're told. Women do what they're told for two weeks but after that everything becomes a bit of a negotiation, they turn the tables so that the boss has to feel gra…
/r/MensRights23/07/20 06:59 AM
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Right... again, I was talking about ADOPTION agencies when it comes to the gender issue.
/r/MGTOW223/07/20 06:24 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean by this.
/r/MGTOW223/07/20 06:20 AM
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That's what I've heard too, but I've heard it for pretty much my entire life, and more recently heard that its just one of those old things that used to be true but isn't quite anymore. According to adoption.org the current legal standing (as of the 1960s actually) is that its perfectly legal in all 50 states. In other threads people cited sources showing that the issue with single men adopting tends to come from the adoption agencies themselves and the rules they choose to have. Because there h…
/r/MGTOW223/07/20 06:11 AM
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I don't understand how that relates. What I said is that as far as adoption goes the men can't generally adopt a girl, not that they can't choose to have a girl through surrogacy.
/r/MGTOW223/07/20 06:03 AM
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yes and no. the red pill is of course a reference to the matrix, wherein if you take the red pill it makes you realize 'the truth', you wake up from all the lies you've been programmed to believe. It became popular using this for certain 'truths' that most people don't believe in an age where everyone has been told that life is simplistic with everyone being the same without any negative aspects if you just work at 'being good'. A lot of these ideas were outside of politics but because it is red…
/r/MGTOW223/07/20 05:58 AM
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Do what you gotta. If you can, try adoption instead. They say it's impossible for single men to do it, but from what I understand the rule is just not adopting girls. Whatever the current state is its definitely changing and were even seeing stories on the news about single men adopting. There was a particularly heartfelt one about a guy who had given up on it but his latest foster kid just immediately started calling him dad and they managed to get the adoption through. Private adoption has no …
/r/MGTOW223/07/20 05:51 AM
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It’s obvious that YOU are assigning good as the value to weird as that is the implication with basic being bad Considering that I'm an artist and not a conspiracy theorist, no, I didn't. One's just basic because everyone wants to be an artist and the other is weird because, well, conspiracy theories are weird. Play stupid games... I'm sure you'd act like an absolute retard no matter what I said, the game is irrelevant. That's the last I'll indulge this conversation.
/r/MGTOW223/07/20 12:48 AM
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this is such a stupid pospt dude. First off, plenty of men here do spend their money, they just don't want to have less money to spend by having a GF take it from them or worse, an ex wife. Giving money to your ex wife wont make you happy, if it feels so great to make someone else happy then it can be women turn to start paying for dates and paying alimony. Second, are you not saving money for retirement? for emergencies? For big expenditures? My 20k in the bank isn't just a number, its 10 acres…
/r/MGTOW222/07/20 10:53 PM
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yeah, its based on the girls who claim fart rape and other such nonsense unfortunately.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 10:40 PM
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This is fake dude, it is a woman reciting excerpts from a satirical website similar to 'the onion'.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 09:16 PM
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I agree with MGTOWolf. Not saying it can be easy and that there aren't certain barriers to openness you might not get from a woman, but that's how genders balance out. As a rule its way easier to confide in a man than in a woman. I am in awe of a lot of the secrets other men have shared with me.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 09:10 PM
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If you mean its not a perfect example of what you're claiming (that memes prove that people think of male depression as a joke) and you can't find a good example than that kind of proves you're wrong, doesn't it? I'm not saying people take men's mental health seriously, but this idea that memes prove it and laugh at it is a bit weird if you can't find a good example, just men crying about a particular thing as opposed to depression.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 07:46 PM
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They say it takes about two months and a little bit of 'force' to get yourself there, making a plan to fuck your girlfriend generally gets you in the mood once you're manually aroused. You generally don't have a girl who is just DTF, right? You have to seduce her and turn her on first, and then you go for it. Now you gotta do that for yourself. It's probably not just masturbation but also getting older and familiarity with your GF. though mabe libido issues, twice a week seems rather small for a…
/r/MGTOW222/07/20 07:45 PM
1

this is more like a status update than a discussion.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 07:42 PM
1

To date, the town has only had 1 Covid death, with only like 5 hospitalizations and a couple dozen tested positive cases that went home just fine. My grandmother started sewing medical masks for hospitals and senior center homes but after a few drop offs she was asked to stop because they're overstocked so now has been just handing them out for free. People wear masks when out shopping and such but the virus just isn't a big deal there, at least for now. There's no hospital overload, there's no …
/r/MensRights22/07/20 07:15 PM
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Do you watch porn / masturbate? I'm not a 'do nofap' kind of guy, but for people in relationships over indulging in porn or masturbation can really kill your desire to pursue women, even your own girlfriend.
/r/MGTOW222/07/20 06:45 PM
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You gotta draw the line somewhere. Me personally I'm probably not going to stop swearing for a partner, but if I did I'm certainly not going to stop saying female. At some point the other person has to just accept that this is a normal word that normal people say. It's not like teasing, or a fat person hating being called fat, or what have you.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 06:36 PM
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and thats totally cool, he doesn't see using the word 'female' as a big deal, but that doens't make him a hypocrite. Like you may not think wearing shoes in to the house is a big deal, but in japan its very rude, slurping is a compliment in some places and rude in others. You can choose to keep swearing, you can choose to have a conversation with your partner where you say 'I personally dont think its a big deal and while I respect that you dont like it I don't think that I should change the way…
/r/MensRights22/07/20 06:19 PM
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In the other thread, we discussed that there are tons and tons of memes and reaction images of people crying, with more than a few of them being women. Women tend to use reaction images of women crying and men tend to use reaction images of men crying, because its a proxy for themselves. One of the most famous classic memes is just a Japanese girl crying and it says [cries in Japanese]. This isn't a sexist issue. Also, crying over a particular thing is not depression, it's a sad moment. Do we re…
/r/MensRights22/07/20 05:49 PM
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Extreme phone typos. Fixed. In my post i described boys as more likely to have 'weird' hobbies like conspiracy theories. Then you, for some reason I cannot fathom, acted like I called girls bad for preferring the arts. I didn't. I specifically said boys are more likely to have WEIRD hobbies, and you just decided to be a twat and essentially reverse what I said.
/r/MGTOW222/07/20 05:43 PM
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Its not a double standard though, I did read the original post and they're two different things. Swears are just that, swears, a whole series of words grouped under one word to indicate their controversy. Like if this was a racial slur versus the word female you wouldn't say they're the same, right? Something culturally understood to be offensive or bad is not the same as someone in a niche facet of feminism taking issue with the word female.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 04:23 PM
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I'm thinking of talking to her about it during his baseball game, with the intention being that he could be signed up for the big brother program. In notnsure she'll do it and I dont blame her the thing is the town they live in is kind of the most sketchy town ive ever seen. I think the big brother program is great but god damn anyone in that town who joins would just feel like a pedo, a drug dealer trying to find younger networks to sell through, or someome just being forced to for community se…
/r/MensRights22/07/20 04:18 PM
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And real food is much healthier than junk food. These things really go without saying but the goal of mens rights isn't to destroy anything unhealthy. If you're worried about your 11 year old watching hardcore abuse porn then keep an eye on what theyre doing, have porn blockers, or hell just dont let them have unrestricted access to the internet. Its really not that hard, my nephews confided that he cant get his hands on anything just cuz his mother set uo his phone to only include text and GPS …
/r/MensRights22/07/20 04:12 PM
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I didn't say not to call a bigot a bigot, hes also not enabling her nor did I suggest he should. Again, you're not actually listening or trying to understand, why go so far out of your way to purposely misunderstand someone? People in the thread can clearly see thats not what I said. I'm just going to block you at this point, you're clearly here to just make an ass of yourself.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 04:07 PM
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Its weird how I described boys as having weird hobbies but you decided that weird = good therefore girls = bad, even though that isn't anywhere near what my post discussed. EDIT: Extreme phone typos.
/r/MGTOW222/07/20 04:03 PM
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Woman* We cant risk you offending yourself. Honestly though its such a weird issue, i legit only hear about ut from obscure corners of feminism so I dont imagine this is something even a healthy portion of women know about. Thats how most SJW nonsense starts though, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 03:57 AM
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Dealing with a singular woman, who is gonna be set in her ways let's be real, is not a problem that I think should be dealt with. Its about as worthwhile as trying to convince your grandfather to stop hating Japanese people. If youre gonna vilify people in the same rights movement as you by grossly misinterpreting what they say you might as well just go feminist. It accomplishes the same thing.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 03:55 AM
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>for different genders, including men As opposed to other surveys with different genders but exclude men? Though in 2020 this is actually a thing that I wouldn't be surprised to see.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 01:32 AM
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You can't and there really is no need to. there are bigger things we can concern ourselves with than whether or not your sister goes out of her way to hire males so she isn't discriminating against them as babysitters.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 01:31 AM
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This is such a bizarre issue. When did females start getting upset over being called females? What are we supposed to do now when we're referring to females and not 'women', which according to feminist doctrine now includes men who dress as women? It's not even that there's 'no winning', there is just no conversation. Is this seriously an issue for females in 2020?
/r/MensRights22/07/20 01:30 AM
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It's terrifying. My aunt made a joke about her daughter pepper spraying me if I ever became 'the touchy-feely uncle'. It was funny and speaks well to our darker humor, but it's scary to think that there's some sort of accusation in there.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 07:36 PM
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I mean there are tons of memes and reaction images and gifs of celebrities crying via reality tv, interviews, behind the scenes, etc. particularly the Kardashians. You can say that's okay cuz their Kardashians putting on a show, but i dont think the fact that it became a meme is really a gendered issue. I think the fact that people are trying to justify his wives behavior is a gendered issue.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 04:20 PM
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Yet another thing thats unrelated. You're not worried about issues you're just playing teams. If a person has a concern bringing up an entirely unrelated issue is just rrying to play a game of who has it worse
/r/MensRights21/07/20 02:59 PM
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I dont know, these things always feel so insincere he sounds like hes talking about a kindergartener who doesn't want to practice coloring inside the lines. These things always just feel more like its about latying yourself on the back than actually explaining your thoughts on parenting. Maybe its just presentation that sort of faux smile always unnerves me.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 02:21 PM
2

My bad. There's been so many artickes about shes gay Hitler I just assumed it was just rehashing that.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 02:04 PM
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They're really not. If youre giving your kids unending access to porn thats on you. I don't think we should be changing things made for adults to cater to and teach children. That isnt how business works, and the idea of making porn child friendly is just retarded.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 12:11 PM
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One doesn't really invalidate he other, they're separate issues entirely and bringing one up in response to the other doesn't make any real sense. That being said, I'm not sure what her point is here. Is she saying porn needs to change so that 11 year olds can watch it?
/r/MensRights21/07/20 11:52 AM
1

Trust your gut then. No reason for me to tell you anything, seems like you got a good handle on this.
/r/MGTOW221/07/20 11:35 AM
1

Why would he make up a dude that looks just like himself?
/r/MGTOW221/07/20 11:25 AM
1

Thats what a lot of it boils down to. In the west women have the actual rights they wanted for the most part and its now become more about social and cultural issues. Abortion is the only real legal issue they fight off and on even in pro choice states theres generally a push to move thebdate closer and closer to the day of birth. After that its representation, quotas, and the perceived wage gap that's been debunked.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 10:52 AM
3

Just nature. Men benefit from being active agents, from creating, building, discovering. The more they do the better the life they can make to attract a female and make life better. What does a woman need to do to make life better? Please a male. He hunts, he builds. A large part of this probably also comes down to womens primary role in tribes being child rearing. Men need to go hunt, can't bring a little baby along for that. For picking fruit though? Yeah thats fine. And what else do.you do wh…
/r/MGTOW221/07/20 10:49 AM
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I really hate these sorts of talks, like a shows a show and what you make of it, and we know that the psychology of fame fucking destroys the human brain. That doesnt make it "good" when someone like her acts like a bitch but its impossibke not to crack, its impossible to see yourself objectively when you have people validating you despite doing bad. Hardly a womans thing men in the industry are known for being hecking crazy. I have to be on camera for work a lot and ive had legit meltdowns over…
/r/MensRights21/07/20 10:43 AM
5

I have, they're more rare than men for sure, but they most definitely exist. The only reason i have a job is because my boss is obsessed with cartoons to the point where she needed to make a YouTube channel to talk about internal workings of lore in various shows. It got big, she decided to hire more hosts to help while shes in college, and that's how I got my job. My female friends in high school were pretty passionate about their interests and hobbies. Painter girl still paints to this day, wr…
/r/MGTOW221/07/20 10:37 AM
1

Lel
/r/MensRights21/07/20 09:42 AM
2

Most of us dont like feminism, but we are for equal rights. Feminists say the same thing about mens rights generally. The problem is that people have different ideas of what equal means when two groups have distinctly different wants and needs. Men and women are of course different on a biological level, so what is equal? Is equal the exact same rules despite one gender pulling more weight (for instance women carrying a child for 9 months, does fact chamfe anything)? Does one group need "special…
/r/MensRights21/07/20 09:18 AM
2

Honestly though maybe its just cuz I'm in an artbfocused city but dint most men who want to stay home actually do stuff? Like I work a lot less sincr covid but in response I finished writing a god damn novel. Most guys I know who get more than a weekend off end up fishing or camping or doing some big project. Men never "wanted" to work, they wanted to do what they love. Work can be tied into that but for a lot of men I think they'd enjoy life more living off the land. I domt think gender roles h…
/r/MensRights21/07/20 07:54 AM
1

I just tend to play things off as fun. I remember making friends with a disabled (half deaf) gay guy with two dads while working on a film project together. I was open about my more right wing opinions and he disagreed but anytime he made a point I just dropped my information but i did it in a way that was almost sarcastic. We still butt heads, but doing it sarcastically gave the impression that its okay to think differently, like its no different than arguing about whether or not your sports te…
/r/MensRights21/07/20 05:34 AM
1

i mean he says he saw her holding hands with another guy? he either saw it and didn't tell you, which is sketch, or he saw it after you told him which is just a bit weird cuz shes her own person after she broke up with you
/r/MGTOW221/07/20 05:29 AM
1

Hard to say anon, my gut is saying that he isn't doing anything unseemly, though i am unclear if he told you about the cheating first or if you found out, told him, then he let you know that he knew about it. that's pretty fucking sketch to me if that is what happened.
/r/MGTOW221/07/20 05:24 AM
4

this is an actually good rant.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 04:37 AM
2

depends what you're into. I visit a small town in Oregon each year. It's hill folk, its got major issues, but as far as just buying a plot of land its great, and there's a nice river you can go fishing and and swimming in, a skate park if you're adventurous, just general nature and woods and hunting.
/r/MGTOW221/07/20 03:08 AM
1

confusing, sure, but he isn't asking for help on understanding, but how to win, he isn't trying to break it down himself, he is just asking for someone else to prove it right.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 01:53 AM
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I got mad once and pissed on a seat for about a week until a friend had to call me out on it. girls just don't know left from right.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 01:40 AM
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yeah, I've heard that as well, they tend to let a little loose when they stand up afterwards. mens issue (at least in my experience) isn't aim, its not even the drip from the shake off, its just sometimes it comes out sideways and you don't have a chance to course correct.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 01:09 AM
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Keep in mind that its only for offices. Don't argue slippery slope on this one, its a matter of women not wanting to dance around a man's puddle before using the rest room herself. its both reasonable and really dumb.
/r/MensRights20/07/20 11:41 PM
0

if you can't debunk something yourself you should question why you think it doesn't exist, and then search for the answers. Asking someone else to simply validate what you want to be true shows that its more about 'sides' and wanting something to be right than to actually want the truth of the situation. Its particularly concerning when you hear those points and don't have your own rebuttal for them.
/r/MensRights20/07/20 08:47 PM
1

that doesn't contradict what I said, I sincerely wish you luck with that approach regardless.
/r/MGTOW220/07/20 08:45 PM
1

Not if the evidence looks manufactured, then it just makes you look like you committed a crime and are trying to cover it up. Courts are essentially courts of opinion what with the jury. If you want to be the guy to test this theory, by all means, go for it, but I'm not going to recommend someone do this when its so clearly going to be misread as creepy.
/r/MGTOW220/07/20 08:12 PM
1

Now I am a bit confused here, when she said she annualized the date is she saying that she took part time pay and converted it to what it would be if it was full time pay? In which case you would essentially get the same result as just comparing pay by the hour, right? That being said, it doesn't cover the fact that part time pay is going to be lower in general than full time and salary pay, obviously the job is less important or less committal if it can be done in less time.
/r/MensRights20/07/20 05:55 PM
1

Oh god I remember this. Didn't she at some point try to say that the hours don't matter because girls might work harder in a shorter amount of time than guys who stay late?
/r/MensRights20/07/20 05:43 PM
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Depends on who you ask and which platform you subscribe to. To many feminists, special treatment is required to be equal in the 'grand scheme'.
/r/MensRights20/07/20 05:39 PM
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like I said, I'm sure the comments are something else, but to call the post disgusting is a bit much. its pretty funny. Frankly its funnier if shes serious.
/r/MensRights20/07/20 07:33 AM
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I don't know man, this ones pretty funny, I feel like I've seen men make the same jokes about women, or at least similar ones. I'm sure the comments are something else though.
/r/MensRights20/07/20 06:52 AM
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Yeah, it's amazing how much women let stuff clutter, other men too sometimes though its not nearly as bad. Some people have so much stuff they literally don't have a place for it all, I can't imagine needing something so little that you don't want it at your home but wanting it so much you'd keep it in storage. Frankly, I'm still surprised at the stuff I will try to hold on to for a few months at a time, but I like to go through the apartment and get rid of stuff once in a while so it doesn't bu…
/r/MGTOW220/07/20 06:04 AM
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Also, this reminds me of a funny story. I have friend who worked at an ice cream store, one of those high-end ones. It was owned by a woman but every single employee there was male. The owner was a hardcore lesbian feminist who never stopped ranting about how women need equal opportunity and quotas and such. When my friend asked her why she never hired any women she admitted that women were great employees for two weeks but by that point they had reversed the relationship, making the employer fe…
/r/MensRights20/07/20 05:56 AM
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It is a mixed bag. I imagine most people like to hire within their gender, but I also know that the first round for hiring is generally done by HR (if not the entire process) which is generally women. Women also tend to not go for men dominated fields based on college degree distribution, so even if women are claiming to be applying for those same jobs as much as men that doesn't mean women are as qualified. The difference in degrees chosen by men and women is astounding and a real eye-opener. I…
/r/MensRights20/07/20 05:54 AM
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I think the problem most people have is that they do what they want most of the time but it sets up a pattern that can make them feel overwhelmed for the rest of the time. Someone may love to socialize so they do, but they end up making more plans than they can handle and it tends to be stressful. Loners tend to do the same, we enjoy our alone time but then all it takes is a few cancellations or someone moving and suddenly you're not just alone, you're lonely. I definitely love my breathing room…
/r/MGTOW220/07/20 05:46 AM
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thats a bit different, i mean if you have a set 'work time' and sometimes there is a loll in it then just putting in an episode of a sitcom or jerking off is no big deal, the issue is if you aren't using your non-work time wisely.
/r/MGTOW220/07/20 01:57 AM
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Yeah, thats a fun thing that happens when you quit a big time waster. A lot of people just aren't sure how to fill it. A lot of the 'self help' says 'stop watching porn / tv / anything of that sort' to get your life together but if you don't have something in particular you want to do then you have nothing to do. what would you like to do though, hobby wise? Write a book? Make a movie? Draw a comic? Skateboard?
/r/MGTOW219/07/20 09:54 PM
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there is this weird sense of entitlement women have that is just getting out of control. They can recognize their hypocrisy of how its okay for an attractive man to do something, but an actual crime for an ugly man, but they don't care. They believe that they not only deserve attractive men, but that they exclusively deserve them and that anyone who doesn't help build that narrative needs to be punished.
/r/MensRights19/07/20 07:50 PM
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This has been a commonly known truth for quite some time unfortunately. IT wouldn't be so bad if they didn't use words like 'harassment', like it goes without saying that people enjoy attractive attention and are uncomfortable when someone they don't like does it, but to call it harassment keeps people wrapping it up with legal issues.
/r/MensRights19/07/20 07:33 PM
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were nudists.
/r/MGTOW219/07/20 06:17 PM
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couldn't disagree with you more! on what in particular?
/r/MGTOW219/07/20 06:17 PM
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I've considered this, but I'm a horny boy and this would more or less leave me at the mercy of women to get off that way. I did nofap November last year and made it 28 days, but it consumed me, I spent all my time trying to get laid or writing in bed trying to contain my own horniness. Porn has never held me back productively, I make my money with work that is entirely self-motivated, producing videos for youtube, in my spare time I do creative projects, I just finished my first novel for instan…
/r/MGTOW219/07/20 06:12 PM
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This. The only thing on that list I'm not doing is living alone, I sublet my spare room so I only pay like 500 a month for my apartment in Hollywood, plus the roommates great, known him for years, understands my no clothes policy, doesn't challenge me on decor and such, etc.
/r/MGTOW219/07/20 06:05 PM
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no girl would want that. It would be an absolute mood killer first, and second it would be creepy as hell. On top of that they could get it thrown out in court and its just going to make you look more guilty >oh em gee, this creepy guy raped me but he made me sign this contract, I didn't want to but he said if I don't he was going to snap my neck Imagine going to court and saying 'I didn't rape her, see, she signed a paper', do you think people are going to not find that extremely suspicious? Ev…
/r/MGTOW219/07/20 06:00 PM
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Hard to say. Most men won't admit it, I hear them talk about how they can be great friends with women and it's just like with the boys yadda yadda yadda, but there is one thing I Say that always seems to resonate with them. With women, the best I can ever hope for is that I can say exactly what I would say to a man, but on a 20-second delay because I have to calculate if I'm going to offend her first. As soon as I say that most men just nod, they get it. The point is that even if you get along w…
/r/MGTOW219/07/20 06:36 AM
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killed to death: The Andrew Freund Story
/r/MensRights19/07/20 05:29 AM
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Not talking with a lisp.
/r/MGTOW218/07/20 05:02 AM
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A lot of this. Also, I feel like when it comes to naked babies we've seen females too, it's just less 'in your face' because it's literally not jutting out like male genitalia.
/r/MensRights18/07/20 02:48 AM
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This guy is pretty on it. Before now being married was kind of like having a sibling. When you're growing up with siblings you can say you 'hate' them, but that doesn't stop you from having fun with them. When you're stuck together you're stuck together and you rationalize them as part of your life, happy or unhappy. I think a large part of why marriages stopped working is that we let people enjoy single life. Just having the option of divorce certainly made it more likely for people to take it …
/r/MGTOW218/07/20 01:06 AM
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morally its kind of up to you, but if you think a business should be able to serve men even if its a gender neutral service then the same right should be given to women. You either think its okay to have places for one gender or not, there's no real answer on that morally. me I think its great, I wish we had more of them.
/r/MensRights17/07/20 04:41 AM
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legally sure, maybe, but on the moral level its nothing to be upset over, plenty of places that service men. Its a shame you can have women only spaces but men's spaces get taken down and attacked, but i think the point is to make it okay for men's spaces, not to take away women spaces.
/r/MensRights17/07/20 04:24 AM
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There isn't much else to say. If you guys want to be run by feminists to stop them from accusing you, by all means, bow down to the breasts, pretend boys don't like boobs, ignorance is bliss. Your comment didn't give much room because it was just innately wrong for reasons I've explained three times over. last ill say on that.
/r/MensRights16/07/20 07:38 PM
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but no one is going to find it funny if you're going to joke about young girls liking dick. and thats fine. This is were the whole "teach boys not to rape" is coming from It's really not. this is why girls aren't held accountable for their sexual misconduct. It especially is not.
/r/MensRights16/07/20 05:44 PM
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They're fucking clowns. I finally got banned from it yesterday and called a child rapist by the mods.
/r/MensRights16/07/20 05:43 PM
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Its not an ugly truth, boys like boobs.
/r/MensRights16/07/20 04:27 AM
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and that is an issue. But trying to avoid the issue by pretending a truth doesn't exist, much less in humor, is not the way to go.
/r/MensRights16/07/20 03:55 AM
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Feminists won't admit some of the rather unsavory things teenage girls might enjoy so why do we have to admit to this. because if you're afraid to talk about the truth because feminists than they already own you. If you're concerned about strangers on the internet making jokes about boys liking boobs, you lost, thats it, game over.
/r/MensRights16/07/20 03:27 AM
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The issue here is that it leaves the doors wide open for feminists to turn this joke into a reason to hate men and to believe that men are wired to be evil. Feminists already will take anything and twist it to make men seem evil. If your response is to give into them, to act like boys liking boobs is somehow an inappropriate joke, then you've already lost.
/r/MensRights16/07/20 02:54 AM
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I'll probably get a lot of shit for this, but I don't see the harm with this joke. Men's rights doesn't mean pretending that men are the same as women. That isn't me saying that women should go around flashing men, much less little boys, but to say that this joke about how boys would like seeing boobs is somehow offensive is just silly to me. Crucify me.
/r/MensRights16/07/20 01:50 AM
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Sorry to hear it took so long but I'm glad it happened before you turned 18 and you can still have a few good years in your fathers house. Sucks that it takes so long for something so simple to happen.
/r/MensRights15/07/20 09:10 PM
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It is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights15/07/20 09:06 PM
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Pro male collective is weird. A guy asked for a good idea for a male symbol for a flag that isn't just the male gender symbol (mars) and he got banned for saying he didn't want an image of two men holding hands cuz it seemed gay and wanted something that more emphasized masculinity and strength. The mod that banned him is an open furry (like his name has a flair saying so afterwards) and then when I asked how it was 'homophobic' he went on a rant that was just ridiculous: >He comes off here as s…
/r/MensRights15/07/20 08:59 PM
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Yeah that was rough. I would see him around for ab it after that but he got a bit worse and worse each time. Last time I saw him he was covered in all sorts of dirt and missing teeth. Been about two years since the last time we crossed paths. Always wished there was more I could do to help that guy, he was just so nice. The only time he ever asked for anything more from me was when he wanted to take it to the other homeless people in his little tribe.
/r/MGTOW215/07/20 12:35 AM
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Its something I'd love to see helped in my area. I just don't want to volunteer to be a cog in a machine that just helps homeless people subsist. I have a friend who works in a soup kitchen which is great but i want to see the homelessness get addressed. I don't mind doing some lowly position i just want it to be in a way that fixes the problem not just prolongs it. one thing to keep in mind that while there are not men's only homeless shelters female only ones exist because many homeless women …
/r/MGTOW214/07/20 11:55 PM
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I am so tired of this shit, it goes without saying that men are just physically stronger than women, I cannot understand the dissonance these people have where they need separate sports leagues and different standards for entry yet are somehow supposed to be taken seriously as an equal in physical prowess. How is this even a topic of conversation?
/r/MensRights14/07/20 08:07 PM
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Interesting. this is just one example but one day I got a promotion and to celebrate i decided I was going to take a homeless guy I donate to a lot and just take him to mc donalds and get him what's ver he wanted. I listened to his life story and he had the same thing, he got divorced, couldn't afford alimony, and his ex wife and her mother just kept coming at him for more and more until he just couldn't make it work anymore. There was this sad moment where he was looking up at the toys that mc …
/r/MGTOW214/07/20 07:46 PM
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I never understood this fear of 'dying alone'. Like what does it actually mean? On the more literal side its the idea that you just won't happen to be single when you die. Do you really think it changes that much? What would it honestly make you feel? I mean if you're happy with life you won't really 'die happy', because you don't want to leave a good life behind, and if you're miserable it doesn't matter if you're single or not. The truth is that there is no 'right' way to die. You can spend yo…
/r/MGTOW214/07/20 07:18 AM
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You can fuck off with the attitude, I talked to the kid about consent, but whether or not it is sexual assault outside of retarded court systems is another conversation entirely. So you are saying that the boy getting a lap dance IS sexual assault because he did not consent to it beofrehand.
/r/MensRights14/07/20 01:38 AM
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when you're responsible for society as a whole just existing there is no real reason to celebrate. Days / months are for people who don't have particularly anything to be proud of so really need to magnify it. You celebrate your successful society by living successfully in it.
/r/MensRights14/07/20 12:46 AM
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After months of quarantine I went up north and my nephews are really into skate boarding so I got really into that for the weekend before spraining my arm. I plan to go back up and do fishing this time.
/r/MGTOW214/07/20 12:45 AM
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Mhm. And you feed into them by insisting that its the way it should be, by saying that a boy getting a lap dance from a girl he likes is sexually assaulted. That encourages this path were going down.
/r/MensRights14/07/20 12:43 AM
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So if a guy thinks a girl likes him he can safely rub her genitals? That is literally how dance clubs function. The problem here is you are trying to make it out like some guy can pretend that he thinks the girl who never shows interest likes him so he can go straight to grabbing her by the pussy. We had plenty of decades where people were able to use non-verbal consent just fine, most people still do frankly, feeding into this idea that you need to explicitly say something before someone else c…
/r/MensRights14/07/20 12:36 AM
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I'm not contesting whether or not its the law, and morally im not contesting that its wrong while someone is asleep, but I think two people being flirty, romantic, and sexual, don't need verbal consent. the law disagrees, most feminists disagree, and even some MRAs disagree, I just can't call a girl I like rubbing my genitals 'sexual assault'.
/r/MensRights14/07/20 12:18 AM
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I don't think it should be considered sexual assault for two people who are showing obvious signs of interest in each other to continue showing obvious signs of interest in each other without first explicitly stating 'I HEREBY GIVE YOUR PERMISSION TO TOUCH MY GENITALIA IN THE FOLLOWING WAYS...'
/r/MensRights13/07/20 11:58 PM
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I really hope you're being sarcastic.
/r/MensRights13/07/20 11:48 PM
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thats one version but as you mentioned people are just more sympathetic to women. An autistic girl is someone to be pitied, an autistic boy is someone to be avoided.
/r/MensRights13/07/20 06:45 PM
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autistic girls are often treated better than autistic boys, so I guess thats still a gender treatment difference even if its rooted in having autism.
/r/MensRights13/07/20 06:27 PM
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while people may not 'know' you are autistic they can be reacting to you 'acting' autistic.
/r/MensRights13/07/20 06:17 PM
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'conditioning' is very real. I remember back in high school there were a lot of guys who were clearly gay that eventually came to terms with it, but one bump they almost always seemed to hit is that they can't let go of the fantasy of getting married, having a nice house, coming home to your wife, and kids. Eventually, they got over it and came out of the closet, but it was a bumpy road, so the idea of straight men letting go of that is even more difficult. For most MGTOW (the ones that didn't c…
/r/MGTOW213/07/20 05:50 PM
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MGTOW isn't really about brotherhood. We are a network of men, but brotherhood implies a sort of closeness or allegiance and that isn't what you will find here. Support, help, resources, a place to vent, but it's far from brotherhood. Some people like to pretend it is and go over the top with 'my brother' or 'my fellow kings' and such, but 'brotherhood' requires some level of closeness. This isn't a criticism of MGTOW, it's just the facts. Were more just a safe space for men united under a parti…
/r/MGTOW213/07/20 05:43 PM
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Jordan Peterson has amended his view of MGTOW when he did some research. He is not wrong, but there is a difference between making a choice not to marry and being unable to marry. Keep in mind most people go through life intending to marry so if they haven't married at some point then yeah they are failed in life and are often miserable lonely messes. If you are choosing not to marry, particularly if you're a MGTOW, you are often doing so with the intent of pursuing something else in the hunt fo…
/r/MGTOW213/07/20 05:36 PM
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A little concern is good, but ultimately you can't let it ruin your life. Whether or not a woman attempts to ruin you won't really matter if you dated or kept to yourself unfortunately, if a girl decides to claim you raped her, she will do it. Try to live your life as authentically as possible just cover your asses in the most basic ways possible. When I was a teen my parents wouldn't allow me to hang out with women alone. They weren't afraid of me getting laid, they just didn't a woman accusing…
/r/MensRights13/07/20 05:31 PM
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Thanks for the insight. We have had several transmen write articles on the issue and they seem to be in line with what you said, though often experience more extreme issues as a man. Some have even transitioned back to women because they cannot handle being treated as a man (though I am sure other issues with dysphoria may have factored in as well). One thing you may want to consider if you want to elaborate more and repost is detail how many people knew you were trans, or whether or not you wer…
/r/MensRights13/07/20 05:20 PM
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Yeah, it's just one of the many words people have taken and exaggerated its uses for to make themselves feel more important with what is happening to them. It started with people exaggerating mental illnesses for mostly comic effect "I can't stand this, I have OCD" or "I can't focus I have ADD" and then slowly transitioned to every single person saying they are 'depressed' when they just mean "I have no real hobbies so am sad when I'm not hanging out with friends lately". Throw in feminism and t…
/r/MensRights13/07/20 05:11 PM
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it doesn't sound like it, and it's not just because you liked her but when two people like each other they flirt and they push the envelope. I don't know the context of what happened there, only you two do, but it sounds like you liked her, you guys had some sort of rapport, and she was trying to escalate it. Harassment is when you make it clear that you are not interested and someone does something or when someone has zero reasons to think you are interested but does something, generally repeat…
/r/MensRights13/07/20 05:06 PM
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I was inclined to agree with you at first because it's largely about leaving behind women to me, but the way you describe it makes it sound like gay men could be MGTOW more than straight men. If it is as you say, regaining your masculinity, then can't gay men need it? Can't they feel both internal and external pressure to act like a feminine queer and realize that they need to regain their masculinity and cut women out of their life?
/r/MGTOW213/07/20 04:46 PM
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Mostly here to echo this sentiment. Growing up I moved around a lot which made it hard to make friends but pretty easy to date. Despite the stereotype that the 'new guy' is somehow lame, girls, in particular, would take an interest just because i was someone new to project feelings onto, as opposed to all these guys they'd known since they were kids. I went to 5 high schools, usually started dating within a month after getting there and as ar result, most of my 'friends' were just the friends of…
/r/MGTOW213/07/20 04:43 PM
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This. Its the same reason I hate patriarchy, no matter how 'nicely' you choose to define it, its just being used against you for reasons that don't apply to the ''''real''''' definition. Where to draw the line on expectations of men is also difficult. A lot of posts I see here are that men should be treated like women and I just don't agree, and a lot of the claims of what men are expected to do that feminist try to use to say 'SEE? TOXIC MASCULINITY!!1!' just don't seem very accurate. I believe…
/r/MensRights12/07/20 11:29 PM
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The thing here is that if they truly do pass in every sense, their not being 'clocked' then they aren't facing trans issues right? they're just facing men's issues, so its kind of a circular question. Mens rights supports men's issues. Like if you support gay rights then even if a straight guy gets beat up for being perceived as gay, its still a gay rights issue even if he turns out to be straight. Whether or not someone supports the idea of transgenderism is a bit beside the point. If they supp…
/r/MensRights12/07/20 07:17 PM
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this is kind of a flawed question. I can have an issue, and be a man, but that does not make it a men's rights issue. Likewise, a transman may have an issue related to being trans but it has nothing to do with being a man (whether they are granted the rights and privileges to men or not). One of the key issues men face is circumcision. I don't think a man should be circumcised just cuz he's gay or trans, so whether or not they are gay or trans is irrelevant. Another issue is alimony, and while i…
/r/MensRights12/07/20 07:12 PM
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with sources. You may now ask 'where do I find those sources', and its basically just a matter of google, yahoo, bing, any search engine you can. Whats important is also explaining why that misconception exists and the logic as to why its not a 'real' wage gap. The myth of the wage gap exists because it takes the entire earnings men and pits it against the entire earnings of women. Men are more likely to have high profile jobs that make more, women do not. This isn't because women are being adva…
/r/MensRights12/07/20 07:01 PM
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Not just getting laid, but dating, and not being called homosexual slurs.
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:58 PM
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historically, and now, people have always expected less of women and even if they do what men do its considered understandable that they would be stressed and would need to be comforted, so there just really isn't a ladies version of 'man up'. The closest they have is 'stop being a cry baby' or 'stop being whiny'.
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:57 PM
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I don't know what to say man, I lived all over the country and outside of it, had success everywhere I go, sometimes you have to adjust ab it to a culture but thats fun if you embrace it.
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:53 PM
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i find that offline height isn't nearly an issue, particularly since so many women are so short. Don't get me wrong like legit short guys have issues but at 5'6" its not been the end of the world, I can still get laid, sometimes with girls taller than myself even.
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:49 PM
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yeah i dont know any woman who get with you with that kind of beard man, you said yourself its patchy but thats beyond patchy its just illshapen. why did you keep it?
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:47 PM
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You don't look effeminate either, though that beard makes you look pretty gross. I can't really say why other people make fun of you or if it isn't motivoated more by behavior or the kind of people you attempt to associate with. I look like this and dont get shit: https://imgur.com/jY890bZ Not saying someone hasn't devolved into calling me a faggot during an argument, but I'm clearly more baby faced than you, I'm shorter, I'm not as fit, etc. if I had to guess I'm higher pitched in voice than yo…
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:43 PM
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ut. I agree that Men’s Rights doesn’t cancel out anyone else’s rights, and arguing so would only go against what the movement stands for. That wasn't what I was saying at all. I'm just saying that talking about whether or not 'mens rights' as a whole is valid and expecting a source to back it up is pretty shallow thinking. You may think gay rights as a whole aren't important anymore, but a source can show you particular issues that the community faces that still need attention. Same goes for men…
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:40 PM
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not sure what to tell you man, you claim to be effeminate but also claim not to have any effeminate qualities.
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:30 PM
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yeah, moreso via apps and such cuz im not a go to the bar other than on special occasions guy, im actually seeing less attention as I get older though because I am not really leaning into any particular idea of success cuz i prefer working on stupid projects in my spare time.
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:23 PM
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Mens Rights is not really some singular idea, it is a series of different issues that happen to relate to men but often not to each other. You can't really argue that 'mens rights' are any more valid than 'trans rights' with a single source. A single source can only tell you if a particular issue is an issue. We can link you to statistics on circumcision but that doesn't help if your debate was about alimony. And if you weren't talking about either of those and just saying 'MENS RIGHTS ARE IMPOR…
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:18 PM
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Relationships with women have always been, and will always be, about trying to seem perfect to them, and being just the right amount of flawed is part of that. Women DO want men to open up. They just want it to be a guy who is extremely muscular and handsome, they want it to be about a deep issue like their father disappearing when they were a kid, but not as deep as being molested, and they want it to be a secret that they haven't opened up to others about, and when they say it's okay to cry wh…
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:15 PM
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I don't know what to tell you man, I'm 5'6", 130, baby faced as fuck (I'm accused of being a teen some days, 22 on a good a day) I don't even know how to play football, and am not even built the way you say are. Girls definitely prefer taller guys as I Get older and more masculine guys too, but is it possible you're just going to hyper-stacies? One problem I notice a lot is guys buy into the 'girls like personality' bs and think that they can score really hot girls. I'm not saying you need to da…
/r/MensRights12/07/20 06:11 PM
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These things are entirely unrelated man, bisexual women are a turn on for men, effeminate men (whether straight or not) are not. Masculinity and femininity aren't on the same spectrum, you can actually be extremely feminine but also extremely masculine at the same time. Men who exemplify both, or at least a good balance of the two, are often praised. A man who writes poetry isn't mocked unless he also talks with a lisp. Even a full on gay man isn't criticized if he is worked out and still played…
/r/MensRights12/07/20 05:58 PM
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I was being facetious to highlight the differences between being annoying and being abusive. You didn't react to the pain with violence though, did you? Either way, you have to remember that people like to be 'playful'. It doesn't end when you grow up you want to cause just a tiny bit of pain with the intent of fun to get a rise out of your partner, this is pretty common in relationships and when it isn't present they do other things like personally try to annoy the other person to get a rise ou…
/r/MGTOW209/07/20 05:24 PM
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idk man, i pinch my nephews and neices all the time just cuz they're cute. I haven't left any bruises as far as I've seen, but its actually in our DNA to pinch and squeeze things that are cute (though, evolutionarily it was meant to either scare the cute thing or kill it so that we wouldn't be distracted by it for too long). This doesn't sound like abuse it just sounds like a thing she did that you didn't like but didn't care enough to have a very serious conversation about. Amber burnt Jonny De…
/r/MGTOW209/07/20 05:13 PM
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Tyler Durden is proven to be wrong by the end of the film, you should never watch a movie and think that any single line given is what the writer believes, the only writers who do that are just, well, masturbating. The point of that line is that Tyler Durden himself is brad fucking Pitt, a beautiful man with a ripped body, but claims that improving yourself in that way is 'masturbation'. He is the narrator's fantasy, someone who both rejects the mainstream ideas of masculine beauty but 'just so …
/r/MGTOW209/07/20 05:03 PM
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Can't say for sure, I imagine gay men's standards and straight men's standards are different, I can't also speak to the quality of the people of either gender you talk to on these apps, all I can say is that women are naturally programmed to aim higher. To settle for a man is to get pregnant and left behind without a protector, and pre-civilization that was a death sentence for you and the baby. Men on the other hand are programmed to stick their prick in whatever is willing so they can ensure t…
/r/MGTOW208/07/20 03:48 AM
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Except for giant octopus*.
/r/MGTOW202/07/20 06:32 PM
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why did toni collete do this?
/r/MensRights02/07/20 04:01 PM
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Just be glad you didn't get married to her, that would be a nightmare. Yeah I'm not even sure if its 'these days', something tells me women were always crazy.
/r/MGTOW202/07/20 04:10 AM
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Welcome to the brotherhood. the best thing you can do now is just save all of your texts so when she does try to ruin your life you have proof. If she says 'im going to ruin your life' try to play it smug. be like 'lol, how would you even do that?' and then when she says something like 'I'll claim you raped me', boom, you won. For me, that was the key reason to go my own way. I have issues with gynocentrism and all of that but more than anything women are just exhausting. I don't feel exhausted …
/r/MGTOW202/07/20 03:53 AM
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Hard to say. No matter what answers we give you could just spend the next ten years losing money and losing time. Trying to start a new family with another woman though is not wise, she will just do the same.
/r/MensRights01/07/20 11:41 PM
1

We are not a house of cards, both communities stand find on their own two feet as each are geared towards (or at least allow) different types of conversation. were not like MRA where they have specific goals to achieve that requires unity, were just a couple of boys going their own ways, and its okay for them go their own ways in different directions from each other.
/r/MGTOW201/07/20 11:29 PM
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that is a nightmare. Imagine being put on trial for rape and you can't even come out of the closet cuz the judge already made up her mind.
/r/MensRights01/07/20 07:05 AM
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You can see that moment where hes a bit pissed off too.
/r/MensRights01/07/20 03:49 AM
1

Women use their gay friends like little emotional support dogs. Kind of my point. I think if a gay man is closer with female friends than male then he might not get that much out of this sort of community, self-improvement stuff aside. Plenty of straight men here have female friends too of course, but the majority seem to be distancing themselves from women outside of the necessary, and if a gay guy is doing that with women as well, not feeding into that annoying dynamic and not trying to just e…
/r/MGTOW201/07/20 03:21 AM
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Judges don't decide if you're guilty, juries do. A certain amount of evidence is generally needed to go to trial but that is going to change from state to state and even county to county.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 11:19 PM
1

Three was a post the other day that was pinned just about LGBT support for pride month. Oddly enough a gay guy put up a fuss about it and a lot of people chimed in and told him he was wrong, some even insulting him for it. He got a lot of upvotes though, at least some of his comments. The official stance is 'yes' for this board. As for the community as a whole, it depends. I think most people here believe in 'equality' but that has a different definition to everyone. Certain issues affect only c…
/r/MensRights30/06/20 11:01 PM
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You're right, this has absolutely zero reason to be discussed here, so why is it? I know a mod approved it, but why are you asking here specifically? I don't even understand the mod logic cuz you won't really get a different answer politically correct or not. Sounds like you're asexual and biromantic leaning towards men or something idk, it really doesn't matter.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 10:54 PM
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jesus christ that is terrifying. makes no sense either, it's not like an abuser couldn't just abuse the child in between these things.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 10:50 PM
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A lot of terms like 'feminist' have taken on new meaning. A lot of people considered themselves feminist ten years ago because they believed the movement to be the most basic of definitions: that men and women deserve equal treatment. As the movement became popularized a lot more of their agenda became common-knowledge and new more toxic ideas began to spring up within it. As a general rule if someone says they hate feminist they mean the women who are hell bent on things like equal outcome, end…
/r/MensRights30/06/20 09:53 PM
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I know there is some contention on whether or not a gay man can be MGTOW. For me personally, I think if you're choosing a single life it is at least somewhat relevant to a community like here even if it doesn't fit the mold perfectly. I think if you take major issue with the men's rights issues surrounding MGTOW (divorce rape) then even better. For me personally, a lot of the benefit of MGTOW is that even on a platonic level women can be very 'entitled' these days so the idea of not being manipu…
/r/MGTOW230/06/20 08:39 PM
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In america I think the most wide spread issue we face is circumcision, but i think the most difficult thing we face is divorce, alimony, and custody stuff. False accusations are still rare in relation to population size we just see a lot of them on the news these days but boy howdy is it on the rise.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 08:21 AM
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For those who don't know this guy is the writer of the original men in black film.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 09:12 PM
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its understandable to feel frustrated but at the end of the day its just marketing, and you really aren't the primary targets. Even if you do away with the stereotype that women are the ones doing most of the caregiving for infants wtihin a relationship, single motherhood is wayyyyy higher than single father hood. I don't blame companies for appealing to mothers over fathers, its not a dig at men. Likewise I don't blame movies for (until the last few years) catering primarily to men, because the…
/r/MensRights29/06/20 08:47 PM
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You've only been there since March? Did she wait only 5 minutes before jumping off the deep end? god damn. They say never move in with friends but not moving in with a woman should be a no brainer. Me personally I'd stick it out just because I hate to lose. You have the video footage, go to your landlord, go to the fucking police, see what you can do man. just hire the worst lawyer in town, one who charges so fucking little its sad, she wont know how cheap he is, she won't want to hire her own s…
/r/MensRights29/06/20 05:49 PM
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if im not mistaken recording something illegally would make it inadmissible in court. Could be wrong on that.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 07:11 AM
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seems you feel comfortable answering your own question.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:46 AM
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There is just no reasonable recourse. Like honestly, what girl wants to sign that sort of doc or give video consent? And I can't blame them, being asked to do that would feel like more of a red flag in the moment and would be a bit of a turn off over all. Life isn't that much different than 5 years ago. More chance of getting fucked over but you kinda have to keep living your life as best as you can and keep on keeping on. The only real change you can make is not deleting any old text or email b…
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:29 AM
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Nope, and it wouldn't matter because if the girl changes her mind afterwards she can just claim she was pressured or forced. You can record a girl on video saying 'yes i consent to sex' then afterwards she can say 'i told him to stop half way through and he just kept going'. one girl consented to sex, then he stuck it in her in the showed again using only physical cues, no verbal consent, and he still got charged. you can have her sign a form and she can say she was forced to sign it. And this i…
/r/MensRights29/06/20 06:03 AM
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The thing is that this only really applies to a 'typical' case. When a girl comes in and says shes been raped most people jump to her defense, but when you wait 20 years and then claim that something happened when you were younger but can't get any details right and then other people come in and are proven to just be trying to sabotage famous men who upset them but didn't rape them, you're gonna be a lot safer believing that the man was just inappropriate at worst.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 03:48 AM
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dude no
/r/MGTOW229/06/20 02:41 AM
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I personally like having a roommate, particularly in times like this. it really depends on who you're living with though. Being able to save some money is always great, but you gotta get along. I'm lucky I've had the same roommate for several years now and we get along pretty well. Were not beyond annoying each other but the closest we've had to an argument was whether or not we should pet sit for a week.
/r/MGTOW229/06/20 01:12 AM
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Nope, i have no sympathy for someone who has sex then claims it was assault because they were 'pressured'. Conversation is literally pressure, you aren't suddenly a slave because someone convinced you to do them a favor, so why is sex suddenly assault when they convinced you to do it? Unless two people are in mutual agreement on everything than anytime someone changes their position they were 'pressured' in some way. Mens rights doesn't mean treating men like children, it means treating women li…
/r/MensRights28/06/20 10:12 PM
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Nope. She pressured you into having sex, not forced. Everyone has the choice to just walk away. You are not somehow inferior to her, she does not have authority over you, you let the pressure get to you. I've had plenty of sex I regret and felt pressured to do but that doesn't make it rape or 'assault'. Its manipulative and gross but its not like the other person always knows where the line is either, I've managed to turn a no into a yes and it wasn't out of malice or ill intent.
/r/MensRights28/06/20 07:58 PM
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Whats amazing is that they want a role model too. Its the reason the 'big brother' program exists, because there are amazing results when even a 'bad kid' is just given the chance to hang out with a role model.
/r/MensRights28/06/20 07:56 PM
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To clarify, this is a speedrun for cancer charity, and she wanted to share why being there was important. This seems much more like a case of female autism than female entitlement.
/r/MGTOW228/06/20 07:53 PM
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Not a lot of options for biological. If you can get a girl to give birth in California it has a 50% custody law that is very helpful to fathers. One guy i know ended up getting 100% custody because the mother tried to take her out of state. Adoption is the better option, right now the laws vary from place to place but as you get older they will get better. Most places have at least a rule that you can't adopt a daughter which is fine by me I'd rather have a son anyways. You can also gay marry wh…
/r/MGTOW228/06/20 06:26 PM
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I'm not very wealth driven so I don't really have anything to inherit. if I died now I would like my roommate to take enough to help him find a new place since he's not on my lease, and getting a new apartment out here can be a bitch. I suppose I'd like anything left over to go to my nephew.
/r/MGTOW228/06/20 06:09 PM
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whats it about / why?
/r/MensRights28/06/20 05:04 AM
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except for all the studies that show women try it more. They are not counting one girl saying they are suicidal three times just because there were three attempts.
/r/MensRights28/06/20 02:36 AM
1

what did?
/r/MensRights28/06/20 01:04 AM
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doubtful, even men like to play the 'im so depressed i wanna kill myself card' these days, I just think women are a lot more likely to insist they were suicidal in even just a survey.
/r/MensRights28/06/20 12:34 AM
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Men use more lethal force. Women have something like 3x higher attempted suicide rate they just don't do the job very well. However, if I am not mistaken that is just 'reported'. It's really easy for a girl to think about suicide one night then claim that she had tried to kill herself by taking too many pills without any intervention necessary needed to stop her, no documentation from authorities etc. I don't really believe anyone who says they tried to commit suicide unless they actually got st…
/r/MensRights28/06/20 12:21 AM
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That is a bit insincere considering that the suicide 'attempt' rate is higher for women than men.
/r/MensRights28/06/20 12:19 AM
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they already got people there. Antartica is rich and resources, plus we can have a cool place while the rest of the world is dying from overheat.
/r/MensRights27/06/20 09:20 PM
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its a shame, men just don't realize how starved they are for male bonding. It is not our nature to live only with family, and especially not to interact only with family. In a tribal system the families are all close and the men spend a large part of their time together hunting. This idea that men are all about independence and solely into leadership of their own family is a really weird modern myth. Even time spent with your family is supposed to be time spent with your fellow hunters eating wh…
/r/MensRights27/06/20 08:26 PM
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God I hate this. There just isn't any winning anymore. I understand fake woke dudes are an issue, but you can't be woke without getting that accusation lobbed at you for not being a slave to women these days. They say the patriarchy is bad for men too cuz it doesn't let them be emotional but OHP YOU'RE TOO EMOTIONAL NOW IF YOU'RE A SENSITIVE BOY. What a vile timeline we've ended up in. Lets just speed up global warming so we can colonize antarctic and leave women behind. Mantartica.
/r/MensRights27/06/20 08:18 PM
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I think when you reach that point you either just avoid hanging with them as friends cuz it doesn't end well or you're in such a position that you can have their insults bounce off of you and it keeps going if they so choose, but thats kind of the issue here.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 08:14 PM
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I get it. People just want to live the lifestyle that comes from them. This is a bit of a niche one so maybe he should be a little more open to listening but were at a point where actors think they can only ever have sex with women who make more money than them otherwise its abusive and toxic and manipulative.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 07:27 PM
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I'm not aware of making any conscious attempt to appear fake around women. Maybe you are naturally 'unproblematic' but even back in highschool I had to start changing the way I talk around women. My rugby coach could come up to me and say 'you look like shit', and it would be fine. But if I ask a girl politely if shes feeling okay because she looks under the weather she'll lose her shit cuz she thought she looked pretty that day.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 07:03 PM
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You really didn't. When you are younger, women just seem more interesting so you can listen to them talk about pretty much anything. When you get older you realize that they aren't much different than men, and there's only a few men you can get into the nit and grit of real conversation with because its about how you actually relate.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 06:36 PM
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Maybe I am biased but I think there comes a point where men get so frustrated with how women react to their natural behavior that they just can't do anything but act fake around women anymore. It starts young with rejections for being 'weird' or 'gross' or what have you and as we get older we allow less and less of our true selves to show around women, even women we are platonic with, because they do such over the top judgement to anything they disapprove of. I imagine being married to one for t…
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 06:25 PM
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funny first few paragraphs, but not going to read the full rant fuck that.
/r/MensRights27/06/20 06:22 PM
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There are people on boards like this one that insist we can't have any contact with women at all because a woman can make a rape charge, and its true. Look at how many men this week have been accused of misconduct by women they simply invited to a party or dated for YEARS and had one bad sexual experience with because she got high first. the point is that any woman can turn around and claim rape for any reason, women are accusing their own fathers of rape. Telling someone to give up a fun lifest…
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 06:20 PM
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is it possible to reject both? One encompasses the other. MGTOW is not about the rejection of gender roles though. do you mean women wouldn't give you a chance. Well if you're poor, you're not good looking, and you have no real benefits, why would she? at most you may be good looking so she'll give you a chance but once she sees that you have no job or direction shes going to leave you.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 04:23 AM
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You didn't mention sentiment at all. Frankly, its not even understandable.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 02:08 AM
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For me I just never enjoyed romance that much. its fun for the first few months but by the end of the third month I find myself feeling sad and suffocated and I don't know why. a lot of my highschool romance ended with me just saying i needed a break 3 months in for reasons I didn't understand. Since then I've transitioned into hook ups or flings where its understood that its not really going anywhere.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 01:20 AM
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Good looking, wealthy men get all the good looking, wealthy(or not) women, and that is unfair How is this unfair? It's not, you yourself call it 'matching' but what is unfair about matching? Its unfortunate, its sad, but that doesn't make it unfair that good looking guys get good looking girls. Thats like saying its unfair that athletic guys make the cut for the sports team, or only people with acting skills can get to be in movies. It's not unfair, its just not everyone getting the exact same o…
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 01:18 AM
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That is a bit dramatic. Ads are generally targeted at people who are already the biggest buyers. The goal isn't to convert the market but rather to expand it. I'm all for mens rights but we really shouldn't try to mirror feminism, we shouldn't let our selves become concerned and offended about every little thing that happens as if we can't be held accountable for our own actions.
/r/MensRights26/06/20 11:12 PM
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Even if you remove the laws that treat you as married if you cohabitate you are still just opening yourself up to being used and abused. Here is the thing, you can go in insisting you want to be equal, but then you pick up something or there's a debate about another thing and the next thing you know you're doing more for her than she is for you. When it comes time to decorate your home you end up with a man cave if you're lucky and the rest is the 'mutually agreed upon space you decorated togeth…
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 08:30 PM
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I have been forced to appease women. Acting like a man is part of it too. I'll keep looking into this sub and the other one. How so? I am asking more out of curiosity than anything else. Ok I'm not embracing manhood but rejecting gynocentrism sounds like what I'm after. It really sounds like what you're looking for ins't ot reject gynocentricism but rather to reject gender roles. I'm not saying that as a good or bad thing, its just its own thing separate from MGTOW. But what about love? What abo…
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 08:17 PM
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ehhh. Words are a tricky thing. A lot of people considered themselves feminist until a few years ago, because to most people the only exposure they had to 'feminism' was someone insisting that women and men are equal. these people grew up not even aware that women might not be treated as equals so it seemed like an easy label to adopt. Then feminism hit the mainstream news with their ludicrous demands and it became something else. But, so has every label, there are men who make the mens right la…
/r/MensRights26/06/20 08:06 PM
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Its weird that this is considered some new revelation, but up until the last 20 years or so this was considered a valid form of love, it was considered fine for a woman to marry in her interests and considered reasonably that she'd develop feelings based on how the man treats her. There is a reason we talk about 'winning' a woman or 'earning' her affections. Honestly its not even bad per se, but I think the internet + feminism has ruined what beauty that sort of dynamic can have. Perhaps giving …
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 07:26 PM
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hard to say. I think a lot of people who are active in mens rights dont consider gay men as a whole to be an ally because most gay men subscribe to the liberal ideas of feminism which are actively hurting men, with many gay men believing straight men to be the oppressor. That doens't mean gay MRAs don't exist but the majority of gay men are goign to be like the majority of the world: they're going to think of MRAs as a joke or simply not understand the issues they face, especially since a LOT of…
/r/MensRights26/06/20 07:15 PM
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I just can't imagine that people exist who are offended by the fact that someone has a legitimate alibi like actual camera footage placing them at a different restaurant.
/r/MensRights26/06/20 07:11 PM
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Nope, the point of going our own way is that we don't fulfill that role. What I'm saying is that men and women have biological differences in their nature, and a large part of MGTOW is built around how women's biological drives are being catered to in society in a way that messes with men. Women are designed to aim high, and then when they either see no more benefit from you or the feelings fade, they want to move on, subjecting men to divorce, alimony, and loss of custody of their children. Som…
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 07:10 PM
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EVURY BODY BUTIFUL
/r/MensRights26/06/20 06:16 PM
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The pronoun issue is maddening to me. It's an example of how the left wants you to change your behavior on EVERYTHING. Pronouns are a useful tool for how you see the world. 'he' and 'she' implies what someone looks like when discussing them to someone else. Saying 'that Frlerpson over there, well fhlee thinks that we should talk to the manager about-' absolutely nonsensical. What is the point of a pronoun if it can't be used to accurately describe you? and its not being used TO you so why should…
/r/MensRights26/06/20 05:55 PM
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I think a lot of men who are incels come to MGTOW in order to give themselves the illusion of choice. I think if you've been an incel for enough time and then decide 'fuck it, i give up on women', you aren't suddenly voluntarily celibate. You just gave up. That is still involuntary as no one is willing to sleep with you. Someone who can get laid, not necesarilly with ease but frankly at least a few times a year, and then decides to quit for reasons unrelated to how difficult it is to get laid is…
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 05:41 PM
1

I think at the end of the day thinking of yourself as a 'man' is rather important to feel a part of MGTOW. It isn't in the title arbitrarily to be some boys club, but its distinction from women comes from the fact that as a man you face certain issues. A lot of the issues with gynocentric society or laws comes from a belief that men and women are fundamentally different, and someone who considers themselves 'non-binary' is generally a part of a movement that believes that those gender difference…
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 05:35 PM
2

I'm not trying to cause an issue and I'm sorry if I accidentally did here. I don't think you did, its a general guideline for how to tell if you belong in a community or should post or not. I don't think asking a question that is tangential to the topic counts, particularly as a first post. If all of your posts become about this sort of thing then again, probably not. A. Born a man B. I don't like the pressure or obligation to marry, serve, impregnate, or work for women. If being non binary serv…
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 05:21 PM
5

thats some weird projection you got going on there.
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 07:21 AM
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I have a lot less 'junk' then most people, but I can't really say I am minimalist. My apartment is simple enough that its easy to clean, but its very well decorated. I always wanted a home that just felt like 'me' so I spent quite a few years picking out the right furniture and buying art and commissioning new pieces and such. A few years ago I got it to where I'd like it. I'm still making more changes as I go, the place is evolving, but it feels like a reflection of me. I could never go minimal…
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 06:25 AM
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If a transman considered himself MGTOW I'd still buy it even if he transitioned as an adult.
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 06:20 AM
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As a general rule if you can go to a community and interact with people there without causing some sort of a fuss then there is no issue. But sometimes what happens is you get a transman who joins the mens right board and then complains that no one is talking about trans issues, because they're a trans man and trans mens issues are somehow relevant to real men. For me, I just question why a 'non binary' person would be interested in the movement. I think a lot of people who are gay, or trans, or…
/r/MGTOW226/06/20 06:19 AM
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Ehhh. I mean anything can be an ex anything, but I think for someone to be a true feminist and then turn away from it is only doing so for one of two reasons. The first is that they truly see the errors of their ways, but i really doubt that this exists outside of extremely high profile cases of essentially famous or well known people who see the actual effects of their actions. The more likely option is that feminism stopped benefiting a woman so she trued to turn it around. I trust her about a…
/r/MGTOW225/06/20 06:02 PM
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To me a MGTOW who cohabitates and marries is not much different than a girl who claims to be bisexual but only sleeps with / dates men. They can post on any board they want and say whatever they want, but I'm not going to take them particularly seriously. If you want to seek independence while in a committed relationship then feel free to go on that journey, but calling it MGTOW just seems like you want to adopt a label that 'feels cool', and thats the sort irony here is that its not good or bad…
/r/MGTOW225/06/20 09:35 AM
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I honestly feel very little desire to be around women when its not for sex. Platonic friendship has always been important to me though, perhaps because i moved a lot growing up and it was really easy to date when you're the new guy but hard to build deeper friendships.
/r/MGTOW225/06/20 06:58 AM
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The idea of MGTOW is to not let a woman drain you of your resources, particularly through cohabitation and marriage where you can ultimately be screwed over in a gynocentric court. Beyond that each MGTOW figures out their own stuff. Some go the bro route and just avoid women altogether. Some have females have friends, others will still date women as long as they don't cohabitate and marry, and some just avoid people altogether and dont even try for male friends let alone female ones. The only re…
/r/MGTOW222/06/20 06:28 PM
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Frankly I don't quite believe that men 'love' in the same way that anyone thinks they do either. Romantic love is mostly hormonal, its seeing someone, feeling something and then getting together with the hopes that it will give you meaning. It's the inverse of your other relationships like friendship where it starts out as essentially nothing and its not until you look back at all the meaningful things you've done that you realize that you love the person. With romance, whether male or female, i…
/r/MGTOW222/06/20 05:16 AM
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A lot of these things were always a part of their nature but they were less intense than they are now. A woman needed a man who could care for her, so you have to test a man to see if hes capable. Men had their own sorts of tests for women as well. What changed was the internet becoming mainstream. Women don't need to impress one of the four suitable men in town, they can swipe through an entire city and get on Tindr in a week and see men they never met before. Women already had quite a bit of a…
/r/MGTOW218/06/20 01:09 AM
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I think capitalism is the best system we got but it can certainly take dark turns, particularly in this age where everything is so internationally connected. Capitalism used to be how cultures were built, it was about trying to provide something that the people around you wanted and it created unique styles to each city, town, or region. A lot of people think of America as having no culture, even people outside of America, but that is only because the capitalism here has started moving around th…
/r/MGTOW213/06/20 05:48 PM
1

haha well that is a relief to hear. He was on vacation in my city and we hit it off so I offered for him to stay at my place. I figured he'd sleep on the couch and he just said 'your bed is very comfortable, I will accept'.
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 09:52 PM
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Just going with what I read in the comments. I hear Europe has fewer issues with male nudity and intimacy in general, but the people in the thread talked more about their experiences as germans or with germans specifically. Me personally I've only met one native born german in my life but he had zero issues with closeness or nudity, I warned him I was changing once so he would at least back away if not leave the room but he stood like 2 feet away from me the entire time, was kinda weird.
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 07:37 PM
1

Just going with what I read in the comments. I hear Europe has fewer issues with male nudity and intimacy in general, but the people in the thread talked more about their experiences as germans or with germans specifically. Me personally I've only met one native born german in my life but he had zero issues with closeness or nudity, I warned him I was changing once so he would at least back away if not leave the room but he stood like 2 feet away from me the entire time, was kinda weird.
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 07:37 PM
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I'm just glad you're staying positive about it mean, life can be so tough and its a shame that when a global pandemic causes such horrifying life changes that your own mother will treat you that way.
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 03:28 PM
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Yes, but the inverse of you. What you describe more is being 'red pilled' naturally as opposed to MGTOW. As a younger man I did my fair share of dating but I always found myself becoming depressed by the third month in and would inevitably break up with the girl. After highschool I realized that I just didn't enjoy dating and opted to 'take time off' for a while. That little break just kept on going and going and I haven't been in a relationship since. It just eels nicer not to be.
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 06:07 AM
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Thats not why i hate women tho
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 05:02 AM
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Some of the comments in the linked threads seem to indicate that there is, or at least that Europe has a stronger focus on friendship than in the west.
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 04:35 AM
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The thing is that there is never going to be some all-encompassing sense of happiness and contentment that lasts forever. People who are single often crave a relationship, people in relationships tend to crave freedom. When it comes to MGTOW men aren't single because they enjoy isolation. They might also happen to enjoy isolation, but that isn't the reason you become MGTOW, you do so to protect yourself from the possibility of being used. you decide what level of comfort you're willing to have, …
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 10:51 PM
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Yup. If it's not about worshipping women then, boom, you're gay now.
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 06:00 PM
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That was pretty wholesome, I wish the video had English subtitles. Would be cool to see a fun highlight reel of the shenanigans without it being cut away to gay jokes ever 30 seconds.
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 05:50 PM
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based.
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 08:45 PM
1

sounds like a place where you can go, post a nuanced problem, and get a dozen responses that just insist its never safe to really do anything with women.
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 07:54 PM
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I don't know anywhere in any official MGTOW documentation that claims that men and women can't be in a happy relationship, let alone that its the reason we go our own way. If relationships were inherently unhappy from the beginning to the end then no one would bother with them. The crux of MGTOW is essentially the issues of divorce/alimony/child custody, with another strong point just being the rule that the man has to provide and give his resources to the woman who is no longer expected to prov…
/r/MGTOW206/06/20 09:51 PM
3

I don't follow any artists in particular, never been that kind of person. If a song is good its good and I don't really care who sang it. My favorite kind of music tends to be mellow acoustic stuff and I think deep male voices suit that better, but if you looked through all the music I have downloaded you'd probably find a lot of female written and performed songs. I don't like romantic music but even if I listened to a romantic or sexual song I can't imagine being so retarded that it 'incites' …
/r/MGTOW206/06/20 09:43 PM
2

Use site blocker extensions. If that doesn't help than the problem really is you, there is nothing you can do but assume responsibility for your actions.
/r/MGTOW206/06/20 09:30 PM
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Thats just a really drawn out way of saying that women are the gatekeepers of sex.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 09:58 PM
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ALSO, no need to apologize, you came here and politely asked for more information. Its a hard habit to get out of when you're deep in it, but you're not a burden just for existing and asking questions. If someone isn't interested in talking to you then its up to them to just not respond, its not up to you to preemptively apologize for existing.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 09:36 PM
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Mostly waht Silver said, but some people don't remove women 'as much as possible' so much as they remove them as much is comfortable. For guys like me that means no dating, no cohabitation, and not trying to pursue friendships with women. For others that just means no cohabitation and marriage. For others it means no contact with women outside of the necessary. It's about trying to figure out what level of interaction is unhealthy for you and your goals in life. As a general rule no cohabitation…
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 09:35 PM
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some looter. He said he was going to break into the shop next door but it had a sign up saying it was owned by a single mom so he went to mine instead.
/r/MensRights05/06/20 09:07 PM
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There really are none. Grooming tips are specific to what look you're trying to achieve. We can tell you to brush your teeth, have a nice hair cut, and trim your facial and body hair in a way that suits you, but thats all just another way of saying 'try to look nice'. We'd need to see you or know more.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 07:21 PM
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Rude as fuck dude. It can be fucking amazing, doesn't mean I need to try and get it published.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 07:16 PM
1

I read each chapter out loud which helps me also recognize when something just isn't flowing right, repetitive words, etc. but im not perfect with comma usage and thats not something the audio helps me with unfortunately.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 05:32 AM
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No. I had some people have REALLY strong reactions to some of the shorts I posted on the various subreddits so I am reaching out to them today with the hopes that one liked it enough to want to read the whole 11 chapters this weekend with the intent of helping with last minute refinings.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 03:49 AM
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i dont have it linked anywhere yet, will probably release it in 11 parts across the horror fiction subreddits once I do a refining draft. I am having a REALLY hard time with that aspect because I am dyslexic and am not the strongest with proper comma usage. I still manage to revise but no matter what I do it doesn't seem to reach the point where its 'official'.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 02:48 AM
1

anyone here really bored and really like reading and good with punctuation want to help me revise an entire small novel?
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 02:37 AM
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im not even submitting it for that.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 02:35 AM
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writing it was really easy, though I have a lot of experience with just smaller and simpler things as well as screenplays. For me the hard part was just maintaining the pace and tone across the story. I actually did it to prove a point to a friend how easy it would be as he spent years talking about how hard it is to be a writer and never wrote more than a page at a time. I sat down once a week for 12 weeks and just put out a chapter. Revising was the hard part though.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 12:06 AM
1

You need to put more focus on friends and relationships for them to be sustainable. False. You can spend every waking second with them and then see them walk away the minute they grow tired of the dynamic. You are wrong on the other accounts to you don't need a 'safety net' of friends and family to not be needy wtih family, the actual pyramid of relationships is the opposite of what you suggest, saying that you need your family as the safety net to pursue friends. You can ignore me if you want, …
/r/MGTOW204/06/20 07:50 PM
1

A lot of people do nofap, and a week later act surprised that they weren't magically transported to a club full of girls that are horny for them. Men are not meant to hold their seed in indefinitely. Unlike a LOT of animal species we are meant to breed all year, but women are not designed to get pregnant every single time they have sex, with there being fewer days than not in the month where its considered likely or even possible. Thus, men are meant to get that release pretty often, its the rea…
/r/MGTOW204/06/20 06:11 PM
4

if your store has stuff that people want then there isn't much need to advertise. Without knowing what you are talking about on your site or selling in your store we can't really give you tips on advertising either, there isn't some secret method to advertise any and all possible businesses that just happened to escape your search so far. The best you can do is advertise your site where relevant, but there isn't going to be very many options regardless if you're unable or unwilling to pay. 1200 …
/r/MGTOW204/06/20 06:45 AM
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Honestly, you don't. How many things are you putting up a day to drive traffic? BAck in the mid 2000s when the internet was bloated you could make good money running your own website but that just isn't the case anymore. People have to write like 5 to 10 articles a day just to keep themselves afloat on most sites, and its hard to convince people that you're a better source than the source that gave them your website to begin with. How often do you really visit a dedicated site anymore? We've plu…
/r/MGTOW204/06/20 02:55 AM
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I feel ya. We can't avoid them forever. I had a similar experience when I did nofap back in november. I ended up at a girls house who wanted to fuck but it was pretty gross. I'll DM you the story, I don't want it posted so publicly lmao.
/r/MGTOW203/06/20 10:43 PM
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haha, gross. Do nothing? There is no way to disinfect the mind really, you did something driven by physical instinct and now you regret it and hopefully you know better than to do it again. People need to stop trying to avoid feeling what they feel, you feel it for a reason.
/r/MGTOW203/06/20 10:35 PM
2

Don't try to self assign an IQ, don't even try to gauge your IQ as low or high without getting a formal test. If you want one just to see where you stand that is fine but like with a self diagnosis for a mental disorder it only hurts you in the long run. It convinces yourself that you have limitations that you probably don't and excuses your actions because you just say 'its not my fault, I just have a low IQ' wherever you can make it relevant to yourself. It's the same as men saying they have '…
/r/MGTOW203/06/20 09:30 PM
1

You are treating your relationships like math, like 'investments' in future emotions, it is a worthless concept. You've likely heard the saying 'the grass is always greener on the other side', it is a platitude but it is perhaps the most relevant thing anyone can say here. You're having trouble choosing because you already see your issue, that no matter what you choose there will be some regret over it when your parents die. Because of that you need to stop living in the future, and you need to …
/r/MGTOW203/06/20 05:13 PM
2

People who need answers will ask questions. They don't insist everyone ask them questions over their sexuality.
/r/MGTOW202/06/20 09:32 PM
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If you need answers you ask questions, not ask everyone else to ask you questions. We've had plenty of gay users on this board, some cool, some using it as a chance to try and convince straight men they should sleep with other men. It's pretty dumb. As a general rule if no one asks and its not relevant, there is no need to say it. It's not relevant because despite your 'indecisiveness' you're not asking any questions. You've turned this into an attention whoring thread.
/r/MGTOW202/06/20 08:00 PM
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Most people who claim they would never cheat have never been propositioned, let alone by a superior woman to the one they had. You're not really wrong, its the same thing we saw with divorce. It wasn't that people changed and want divorce now more than in the early 1900s, it just wasn't an option back then. If they legalized it they would use it. so far as this statistic goes, men already do cheat more than women in America: https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating…
/r/MGTOW201/06/20 10:29 PM
3

define loyal. Most people are loyal for a reason, its not blind or unconditional, why would you swear loyalty to someone for no reason? You wouldn't swear loyalty to a woman for some reason, you are loyal to a girl essentially because you think she is the best for you. With men we tend to max out, we get the hottest girl we can and then it becomes about emotional connection. With women they get the guy who makes them feel the nicest but often they could get a more attractive guy, and they could …
/r/MGTOW201/06/20 02:21 AM
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Don't sweat it? I'm all for learning how to have fun on your own, but leaning into a lifestyle you hate for the rest of your life is a silly outlook, particularly if you just say 'don't sweat it' if you never happen to make friends again. Yes sweat it. If you want human connection than you should build it, not avoid it because your last friend was a smoker.
/r/MGTOW231/05/20 11:47 PM
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Try to make friends. It's hard but it is far from impossible. It is certainly hard to make lasting connections but if you're feeling too lonely to do these things then temporary company is better than no company
/r/MGTOW231/05/20 11:46 PM
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People who turn MGTOW because of heartbreak tend to not really be MGTOW. They're doing it as a reaction to feeling sad, a way to protect themselves from break ups, but it's not for that. It's for men who want to define themselves outside of service to women. Most of us still date and get laid even, so it's not about avoiding feelings. It sounds like you were never at peace with yourself but rather that you were looking for ways to not have to confront your issues and now that you have some again…
/r/MGTOW231/05/20 11:44 PM
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you are not mature enough and haven’t thought this way though if asking question like this This. you are asking for a number to be given to you and as soon as you get that number and even make that money you could blow through the whole thing in 3 years and not know where you went wrong. I can survive off of like 1300 a month. But that means i can literally never go out, never buy new clothes, never spend a little extra by going somewhere more than the allotted number of times by bus. What do yo…
/r/MGTOW231/05/20 10:07 PM
2

Japan can be the same way too unfortunately, but bokksu tends to focus on smaller local and classic brands. There was another japanese snack box I checked out that was pretty much no different than american snacks, big name brand type candies that featured promotional tie ins to things like hello kitty, pokemon, and even american franchises like toy story. Booksu has cool things like 'here is a freeze dried strawberry injected with white chocolate' or 'hand spun sakura / sake candies' and the li…
/r/MGTOW231/05/20 06:06 PM
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yeah its okay, i still just prefer vanilla ice cream though. you would love this service it sounds like, id try the first month if i were you as it has a very diverse snack set in it. I skip every other month so far because they like to do heavily themed months and i dont want to spend 40 bucks on assorted citrus based snacks, I like variety.
/r/MGTOW231/05/20 07:43 AM
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Oh god right now i really enjoy making fried steak. I use a special seasoning, GOYA Adobo, and it just gives the breading this amazing flavor. I make some mashed potatoes with it, a little sweet corn and its heaven. For dessert I enjoy japanese snacks. ordered about 200 bucks worth of em from bokksu this month. Matcha tea cakes or sake succulents.
/r/MGTOW231/05/20 07:00 AM
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What is wrong with you? Pedophiles have nothing to do with this, don't try to make men who want to be fathers equated to pedophiles, wrong board for that. It's not abuse to raise a child as a single parent, whether your spouse died or you just went it single.
/r/MGTOW230/05/20 07:09 PM
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Oh grow up, it is it suddenly 'abusive' if your mother or father dies? Should kids be taken away from their parent if their spouse dies? Life is tough but all the shit everyone considers 'abusive' these days was just called normal childhood shit twenty years ago. Wanting to bring a child into the world out of love and finding a way to do it when you don't even have a partner is a kind of love most kids will never know. The sheer amount of money you have to throw into the situation to make it hap…
/r/MGTOW230/05/20 05:50 PM
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Nah man I am exactly the same but i dont expect it to end in a few years. Don't get me wrong I still get laid here and there but I don't make any plans with women unless that is clearly on the agenda. My only interactions with females tend to be out of necessity like work. I am just enjoying my time with my boys going on adventures and having fun.
/r/MGTOW230/05/20 12:45 AM
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She's lost 2 jobs in the past two years, and everything is everyone else's fault. This but 4 jobs. Every time there was some bitch at work who 'had it out for her' despite all the great work she was doing. I couldn't rationalize why it was happening. The first two times I accepted but by the fourth I was like 'something isn't right here...' Then one day I got the call that my mom had checked into rehab, she was a huge alcoholic and drinking at work.
/r/MGTOW228/05/20 04:24 AM
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My family was pretty toxic but when it came to my father and brother it was just blatant and on the surface. My dad yelled and had issues with his self worth and anger so he kept yelling. My brother was just a bully so he would bully me. My mother was just sneaky as fuck, faked having a stalker for a year when my dad left us. Took me a lot longer to realize she was the worst of it all.
/r/MGTOW228/05/20 04:14 AM
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8 days ago Idk man you seem busy.
/r/MGTOW228/05/20 12:03 AM
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to go out on dates with women and they don't even have to have sex? WOW YOU SURE SHOWED THEM.
/r/MGTOW227/05/20 08:42 PM
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You aren't going your own way, you're going in the way of women and dedicating your lives to them. The only difference this time is that you don't get laid and you think that makes you powerful.
/r/MGTOW227/05/20 05:38 PM
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I really only agree with the latter half of 3 myself. I don't really have romantic fantasies. I would stop worrying about finding people 'like you'. You just described millions of people. finding people who match you point for point, let alone a group, doesn't really make sense. Finding your tribe is more about finding people who accept and support you as opposed to act like you.
/r/MGTOW227/05/20 05:36 PM
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I'm scared of this. I used to have such an active sex life but as I get older I am struggling. What is sad is that I actually look a lot better in most ways.
/r/MGTOW226/05/20 07:52 PM
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Yeah some women just legitimately don't like children or the idea of raising them. Oftentimes this can be considered the result of other negative things, like a woman being too childish, the kind of girl who got fat and just likes watching TV all day and doesn't see much of a life for herself, or one who sees too much of a life for herself wanting to party around and go on vacations and such her entire life. I try not to look at people that way but one way I do look at people is as temporary. Al…
/r/MGTOW226/05/20 05:07 PM
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funny thing about the 10% men thing, I saw something similar in a scifi anime series known as 'geneshaft' mae back in the late 90s. The funny thing about it was that it was believed to be the perfect ratio but all of the mens till held all of the power in the society, with women all being the grunt workers. what a weird show.
/r/MGTOW226/05/20 05:14 AM
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I feel ya. My hobbies are generally creative projects but as you get older you have to take them more seriously, make them more refined, there has to be some end goal for them. Because of that there is just a cut off point where you don't have the energy to work on them at a certain point in the day. I've left TV and video games behind so when I get tired I am not sure what to really do with myself. All I really know is how to work. I had a bad period where my personal projects I just didn't hav…
/r/MGTOW226/05/20 02:54 AM
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Nah man, were next level. We hate women so much we don't want to spend all day thinking about them. We just want to exist in a space where its just us men. you guys over there need to catch up, you're letting them rule your every thought.
/r/MGTOW225/05/20 11:41 PM
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Many MGTOW men have 'flings', some date around and some have long term relationships. The only real 'rules' are not to cohabitate and not to marry. The problem is that most women are upset by that, and the older you get the harder it becomes to maintain a relationship with a woman as very few of them are looking for someone to date for the rest of their lives but never actually get closer to. They want to move in, they want to marry. They can say they aren't looking for anything serious at that …
/r/MGTOW225/05/20 11:24 PM
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I'm glad you're open minded like that. I'm generally the first to go into threads complaining that they're about women. I wish we had a 'no girls allowed' board where even just talking about them isn't allowed, a nice reprieve considering how every day we get relationship threads lately. Certainly not what I hoped for when I first started coming here. As far as threads about women go though, this can have some real and interesting discussion.
/r/MGTOW225/05/20 10:17 PM
1

The ride never ends.
/r/MGTOW225/05/20 10:04 PM
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For the obvious reasons? back to MGTOW 1 with you.
/r/MGTOW225/05/20 09:52 PM
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This is ab it tangential, but one thing I noticed is that the need for media to appeal to EVERYONE has kind of ruined gender representation on both sides. All we really get to see is how people relate to each other in a blob of diversity so you never really get to see their purest self. Any attempt to do so like a man saying something a bit too 'manly' is met with a woman rolling her eyes, slapping his shoulder, attacking him. We get realistic examples of how people act when they are surrounded …
/r/MGTOW225/05/20 08:32 PM
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I'd think this is one of the few discussions that actually are relevant to this board while including women, I'd argue that it's way more relevant than all the relationship advice threads we get.
/r/MGTOW225/05/20 08:27 PM
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A philosophy that sees burning bridges as a positive thing can take you to some lonely places. Using a motto that encourages you to work today instead of putting it off just means getting more done.
/r/MGTOW225/05/20 12:35 AM
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It is cheesy but I always enjoyed 'may the bridges I burn light the way'. Might be time to practice your motto more than that one though.
/r/MGTOW224/05/20 02:09 AM
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As a general rule if you have to ask the answer should just be no. You have an issue before anything has started. That being said if you work through that issue then my general rule is go along with something until its no longer fun. I can trust myself to call bullshit when I see it and don't end up over extending myself. I know a lot of guys aren't the same, it starts entirely in their favor and then the girl asks for one thing, and then she guilt trips you and then each day she asks for a litt…
/r/MGTOW224/05/20 01:45 AM
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using each other. It was never /not/ about that.
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 07:43 PM
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I don't. As soon as I turned 18 I jumped ship and swam to shore.
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 05:43 PM
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I did the opposite of the basic entry level rules of MGTOW and it somehow didn't work out, what should I do MGTOW? Follow the basic entry level rules of MGTOW. Don't marry women. Do not cohabitate with women. Do not give more of yourself to women than they give to you. Do not give them your energy and stop trying to give them ours.
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 04:18 PM
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Marriage was never not about using each other.
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 03:39 PM
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I find that trying to talk about your feelings as a rule just makes people put on a superficial act about how its important to talk about your feelings before handing out some platitudes and making you feel worse for not just being able to 'get over it'. Even after my friend died all everyone could say was 'he wouldn't want you to be sad', as if its a choice. Most people are able to talk to their close friends about it though, its not new either if you look at any older story you have men confid…
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 09:18 AM
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You're asking too broad a question, and life is too broad. If you don't know what you want to do then your only mission should be to explore and enjoy the world around you. That can be literal, traveling and seeing what life is like everywhere, or more inward by trying things you like. Do you like exercise? Start exercising. Do you like music? learn an instrument. Do you know what kind of job you want? Work towards it. As you work at things that YOU like you will start to see how much they matte…
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 01:11 AM
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What's funny is that a lot of men who kill themselves are the ones who do have mental health resources and a group of people surrounding them chanting about how all their problems are valid and should be taken seriously. I'm not saying all or even a majority, just a lot. Sometimes I wonder if you can really help these young men. It feels like we have been robbed of something that might take a generation to get back.
/r/MGTOW222/05/20 09:13 PM
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You don't see the irony there?
/r/MGTOW222/05/20 06:10 PM
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Haven't heard leglet. I like the term 'manlet' and jokes about 'manlet pits' and such. I am 5'6" but didn't really start seeing different treatment for my height until i was in my 20s. Most women are still my height or shorter so I don't see the big deal, but I understand why men who are like 5'2" and shorter are struggling.
/r/MGTOW222/05/20 06:10 PM
1

I worked for him for 5 years and turned his business around. I got paid for it but he wasn't going to charge someone he works that closely with.
/r/MGTOW222/05/20 05:19 AM
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I dont trust therapists and psychologists and the like. If money is involved then I have no reason to trust their advice. I only ever saw a psychic because he would see me for free.
/r/MGTOW222/05/20 01:35 AM
1

okay
/r/MGTOW221/05/20 09:05 PM
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Feels manipulative to me. Religion and our culture from before kept men and women together and made healthy families but it did little to inspire real happiness or even fulfillment. People are diverse and they have different wants and needs. To be free means to let a lot of crazy shit happen. In my opinion were still in an experimental phase. We are just now dealing with liberation of this sort in the last 50 years or so and as time goes on we are going to figure out a new balance or die trying.…
/r/MGTOW221/05/20 06:32 PM
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Sure, but when you have an entire culture of people who don't care if you sleep around and do the cock carousel then how is your religion going to affect you outside of your family? Most people move out as an adult anyways, this isn't the 1800s
/r/MGTOW220/05/20 11:41 PM
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I don't see that listed as a requirement.
/r/MGTOW220/05/20 06:13 PM
1

This isn't an incel board this is a MGTOW board. That doesn't mean Incels aren't allowed either, but yes a lot of men (not just you, there are plenty of others here) hide behind the MGTOW label because it gives them a sense of control. Someone can't make fun of you for never having sex if you turn it to a choice. That isn't to say that you shouldn't be here, but you should be seriously working on yourself in other ways instead of just using this as a place to talk about women. I can easily set y…
/r/MGTOW220/05/20 05:24 PM
2

Being a christian part of the world, Christians are here but it is not a christian part of the world. There used to be a time where most everyone was at church on sundays, now very few people show up to church on sundays compared to 100 years ago. Right now religions that are being strict about who they let in are seeing a dramatic decrease in people showing up, because the culture is stronger than the religion. More than anything it is an unintended consequence of telling people not to get marr…
/r/MGTOW220/05/20 05:20 PM
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Why wouldn't they be? Religious men are capable of cheating and murder and anything else that any other man is capable of.
/r/MGTOW220/05/20 02:05 AM
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The board is pretty clear that this is about talking about improving your life through mgtow, not ranting about women.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 09:47 PM
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What? That was just a scary short story I wrote. You don't need to take me seriously, just take the rules seriously.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 09:47 PM
1

Just read the rules instead of asking the mods to clean up after you.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 09:43 PM
1

Seems like a waste of time, you already ""know"" you disagree with me.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 09:37 PM
2

I like it but I also cringe at it a lot. I think it is a fun thing to say privately with friends, or as a compliment to someone who has shown themselves to be a cut above the rest in his particular way, but not so much as a general term.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 09:16 PM
1

And if I defined force or assault you would ask me to define the words I used to define that now wouldn't you.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 09:04 PM
1

I am already fully aware of that and didn't need to be told that. You weren't doing it to juxtapose you were doing it to make a point about something I had said, a very rude point at that.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 09:02 PM
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I clearly said in this thread that its still misconduct. I didn't say it was good or that people should do it or get away with it. Something can still be wrong or illegal without it being assault. As for double standard I'm aware of it my opinion is just that it shouldnt be assault when a man does it either, something I clearly said in my first post. Read to understand, not to argue.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 07:28 PM
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I believe with consistency on a legal level, that was sort of my point, i just may also disagree with the legal definitions of these things and telling me to go grope a 19 year old at work does nothing for or against my points.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 04:58 PM
2

Why would I do that? That wouldn't even prove anything I pretty clearly stated several times that it is still something worthy of legal trouble. I didn't say it was innocent and fine and everyone should do it, just that its sexual misconduct as opposed to sexual assault.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 04:27 PM
4

Poor guys get married and have kids too, often times to women of equal attractiveness, they just also happen to be in the same class as them financially. The man is still expected to be the breadwinner within that class though.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 05:28 AM
5

A lot of people struggle with dating then decide that they won't date in order to feel a sense of control over the situation, they turn it in to a choice not to date after many failures so they don't feel like they are going to keep being rejected. That way if anyone asks they can say 'i choose not to date', and it feels better than saying 'no girl has ever returned my feelings'. Some people are a bit in the middle, and you have to do some internal reflection to figure out which one it really is…
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 05:24 AM
1

Kind of my point. Not that 'the judge' would call it sexual assault.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 03:40 AM
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I've been here for quite some time, and if you look at my post history most of it is meaningful conversation. It's not trolling to not include butt squeezing as sexual misconduct instead of sexual assault.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 03:40 AM
2

You too.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 03:30 AM
1

Why would I need to? Everyone has varying opinions on the issue, he is not the king of morality on the subject so even if I did convince him it wouldn't prove anything. Go convince my Stephen King on your opinion about diversity. wouldn't prove anything.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 03:27 AM
1

America.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 03:15 AM
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If he feels assaulted that’s all that matters Not remotely, if a girl feels like she was raped or assaulted or what have you I would say the same thing, that isn't all that matters. Thats all that matters to her, but you should still reason with someone who feels this way. If you did something like that or anyone of us, we’d be fired on the spot. We can’t hold ourselves to any other level other than equal. I am not claiming you shouldn't be fired or that we shouldn't all be held to the same stan…
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 03:12 AM
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It doesn't matter what you see it as Sure it does. I would be lucky to just lose my job Not saying that is or isn't the case or that it shouldn't happen, just that using the word assault for a butt squeeze, inappropriate or not, should not be called assault.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 02:44 AM
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I said 'hot take' not 'hard facts'. I'm not here arguing what the laws may or may not be locally or otherwise, I am just giving my opinion. I can say I have been sexually assaulted because I have, but I wouldn't say that I've been raped. Sexual assault, molestation, rape, they all have different definitions to me, and a squeeze of the ass is just not sexual assault. Sexual misconduct for sure but to live in a world that villainizes a but squeeze to an extreme degree, likening it to sexual assaul…
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 01:46 AM
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Something with a bit more assault involved. Force and such.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 01:41 AM
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Like I said, hot take, I just don't see it as assault. I wouldn't even see grabbing my balls as assault, the same way I wouldn't see grabbing my shoulder as assault. There is certainly misconduct and it shouldn't be done and what not, but calling it assault when its an ass squeeze seems like a bit much.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 01:14 AM
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Hot take, that isn't sexual assault. And no it wouldn't be sexual assault if it had been a man doing it to a woman.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 12:56 AM
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what happened?
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 12:34 AM
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Cuz people always ask and then you make a list but when you hit them up they never actually read it so it becomes annoying to make a list and then track down accounts again. you want it so bad you follow.
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 12:13 AM
2

Let me know when you release your novel No!
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 12:06 AM
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I'm still working my at home job and doing a little extra work there to compensate for not having a day job. I also wrote a short scary story and revised my old short scary stories to post online. I've gotten my eating habits under control. It's crazy how much easier it is when you are home all day. I can't believe how much I used to eat before, now my diet is so simple and i'm actually craving healthier foods instead of junk. It is insane. I managed to get so caught up on my job from home that …
/r/MGTOW219/05/20 12:01 AM
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largely this. I miss interaction quite a bit but its nothing I couldn't get from friends outside of the sex.
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 08:55 PM
1

It's too late. You just hired me.
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 08:47 PM
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I'm not going to give you a job though. Yes you would, I'm extremely hirable.
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 08:34 PM
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do you ask bullshit questions though? Those 'where do you see yourself in five years' or 'why do you want this job' Like I can be specific, i want it because i need money or its the next step up from the money I'm already making. It's hard to answer that question without sounding vague cuz the people hiring want us to be hella motivated about filling baskets with over priced jam
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 08:10 PM
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I had a boss a few years ago that developed cancer. I helped him close down the whole business and spent 9 months taking care of him until the day he died. I have not been denied a job since then cuz I tell the story anytime they ask why I quit my last job and it makes them think that I'm a loyal employee. I usually quit within a month is the funny thing.
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 07:59 PM
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Depends on the woman and the situation? Those seem more important to the question than the gender. I don't care how sincere someone is if they're a stupid fuck up who keeps doing stupid shit. I imagine a woman would feel the same way.
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 06:47 PM
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dont worry about MGTOW ideas and philosophies. If a MGTOW philosophy doesn't match up with what you want then you shouldnt let go of what you want to pursue it. You can just say 'I'm MGTOW but i adopted'. America is kind of the same with adoption, the best I heard men can do is adopt a boy, as apparently they only worry about straight pedos and gay pedos. I'd rather have a son anyway so thats fine by me. But the laws will likely continue to change over the next ten years and while you may want t…
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 04:33 PM
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its a silly question. Nothing goes perfect, you are never in control, and no person is not vindictive unless they are completely broken. No matter what you think you know about a woman, and really a person, you only know what you know in that exact moment, that is it. Do you think men out there are marrying women in control of their relationships who are vindictive? Why would a guy put himself in a situation with a vindictive person where they can ruin his entire life? They don't. Men marry wome…
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 02:37 PM
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everyone is different. some men go monk mode, some men hit and quit, some casually date. The rules are really only that you dont cohabitate and marry. You draw up your own terms for how to live your life outside of that,
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 05:57 AM
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It's like asking the connection between gays and liberals. Many gays have reason to be liberal but its not one = the other. You can be liberal and not gay and gay and not liberal. When men have been rejected of what is deemed necessary for the survival of their bloodline then they are going to want to turn away from women as a whole and explore what it means to be living for ones self instead of chasing after women after their previous attempts proved futile. A lot of MGTOWs turn to this movemen…
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 02:08 AM
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also its pretty clear he loved boys and men, particularly boys.
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 12:20 AM
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I've only made it through the first three cantos.
/r/MGTOW217/05/20 11:28 PM
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haha it does and he does, but so do some MGTOWs actually. The author Lord Byron, was notorious for his hatred of marriage. When he finally got married he was more or less forced into it and their first night was known to be rather angry and disappointing. He loves women until it becomes about them / Marriage. He considered it to be the end of his real life.
/r/MGTOW217/05/20 10:49 PM
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don juan Don Juan was the original MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW217/05/20 10:40 PM
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The native Americans had spirit totems that were meant to guide people, with the bobcat meaning to teach those born under its guidance how to be alone without being lonely.
/r/MGTOW216/05/20 09:19 PM
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>not being naked AND turning on the AC fucking plebs
/r/MGTOW216/05/20 09:18 PM
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asking for advice on something this 'early' is just a sign that you shouldn't be dealing with it at all.
/r/MGTOW216/05/20 12:02 AM
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So I met a girl a couple weeks ago dropped. Honestly its not worth our time, let alone yours. If there is a problem with a woman its time to just move on, stop giving them your energy, stop trying to give them ours.
/r/MGTOW215/05/20 05:29 PM
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Mgtow poetry thread? MGTOW poetry thread. Then out spake brave Horatius, The Captain of the Gate: To every man upon this earth Death cometh soon or late. And how can man die better Than facing fearful odds, For the ashes of his fathers, And the temples of his gods Ignore the subsequent stanza though.
/r/MGTOW214/05/20 09:27 PM
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by that logic almost anything we do is a 'coping mechanism'. That doesn't erase the context of the word which is mostly used to say that you are not addressing issues that you can/should. Say it is, it just becomes a 'so what?' situation by your definition. Why even bring it up? Pretty much anything is a coping mechanism by that definition. The problems with OPs logic were highlighted beyond my disdain for that word.
/r/MGTOW214/05/20 09:05 PM
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its literally not, but even if it was being the basic requirements of relevant to a sub is not epic.
/r/MGTOW214/05/20 08:32 PM
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in what conceivable way, its just some guy parroting the same argument men have had since the 60s.
/r/MGTOW214/05/20 08:28 PM
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his is this epic?
/r/MGTOW214/05/20 08:18 PM
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I live in LA but won't be leaving anytime soon. I came here for the industry and as much as I hate some of the issues we have here or the fact that like 5 different gay people have assaulted me for wearing a hat, I do enjoy what this city has to offer.
/r/MGTOW214/05/20 04:43 PM
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Not remotely the same thing, and misses the point entirely, just like your first post.
/r/MGTOW213/05/20 11:55 PM
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Speak for yourself. I dated a lot in highschool, but after about 3 months in I started to feel really depressed and frustrated for no reason. When I graduated college I broke up with my gf and just thought 'i think i should try being actually single for awhile', and found that I enjoyed it. What started as 'awhile' became a plan for life. It wasn't until about a year ago that I found out about MGTOW, years after I started the single life. But sure, some people wanted the married life but aren't …
/r/MGTOW213/05/20 11:46 PM
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Yeah, it's called the bible.
/r/MGTOW213/05/20 06:38 PM
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don't shout down everyone who doesn't want that. Calling your claims overblown is not 'shouting down'. You're welcome to have your opinions but don't expect everyone else to play along. my dad wasn't 'right' and neither are you. One guy getting doxxed, even multiple guys being doxxed doesn't mean anyone who shows their face just doxxed themselves. Fuck I posted face photos with my work colleagues on the main MGTOW board and this one last year, high upvoted posts those days, nothing happened.
/r/MGTOW212/05/20 06:49 AM
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My father used to refuse to let us use myspace because there was a virus on myspace he said. There was a virus, once, then every time he heard about myspace he complained about it having a virus. thats like someone saying 'i HAD SEX WTIH A GIRL' and then saying 'WOW YOU BASICALLY JUST SET YOURSELF UP TO BE ACCUSED OF RAPE' I get told 'oh wow, you're gonna get doxxed and have your life ruined' like once a month.
/r/MGTOW212/05/20 06:26 AM
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This sort of thing is always so over blown.
/r/MGTOW212/05/20 06:14 AM
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Yes, and it absolutely should be. Stop going there and let them stop coming here.
/r/MGTOW212/05/20 03:23 AM
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If you can't argue your own point properly than why do you hold it to be true? Don't get me wrong there is a grey area for struggling to put known ideas into words but for the most part what you have is people holding a belief because it 'feels' right and then asking other people how to argue that point. That isn't education, that is self indoctrination, it is echo-chambering, there isn't even a hint of 'maybe I am wrong' in the sentiment. It is just 'how can i convince myself that i was right?'
/r/MGTOW211/05/20 08:07 AM
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Some people will insist you can't, others will ask that you first try dating because you need to experience the issues to understand the problem, others will have no concern. There'd even some gay MGTOWs here. Really labels are just labels, we can't stop you from calling yourself MGTOW and living the MGTOW lifestyle. What I personally don't like is when men become MGTOW for reactionary reasons, particularly that they never had a relationship and they are trying to feel in control of the situatio…
/r/MGTOW210/05/20 04:49 PM
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Because I'd probably catch covid while there and waste my time. I took some aleve, downed some pepto, and spent the day playing scary video games. I feel a lot better now, will likely be right back to work tomorrow.
/r/MGTOW210/05/20 03:25 AM
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Thanks for asking man. I feel pretty awful actually, huge headache, stomach pain, shivers, I think its something I ate.
/r/MGTOW209/05/20 07:24 PM
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Thats been the key issue. My roommate and I are great partners for this sort of thing but we aren't great company. Particularly I have anything relating to my friend who passed away last year. He just kinda shuts down and gives one word responses so its hard to even revel in the good moments like finding a video of him on YouTube I never knew existed or what have you. My one friend who I was feeling comfortable having over (like me he works from home) says he can't because his girlfriend wont le…
/r/MGTOW209/05/20 02:12 PM
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I have a roommate I get along iwth well, but we don't have too much in common. Once or twice a week we'll play a game or watch a movie together. I wish I had someone to do that with most every night, really.
/r/MGTOW208/05/20 09:52 PM
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Then you should post about it on boards that don't have rules against women hating.
/r/MGTOW208/05/20 06:38 AM
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It doesn't.
/r/MGTOW207/05/20 06:03 PM
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That has not been my experience here, even as far as broad strokes go.
/r/MGTOW207/05/20 05:37 AM
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Nah teen years suck. Your 20s are the best if you live them right. Life didn't really get good until I left my parents house. Sucks about the rest but all you can do is grin and bare it.
/r/MGTOW206/05/20 10:13 PM
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Fulfillment is a feeling. Everything is fulfilling until it's not. With that in mind it essentially becomes a case of what you dont know wont hurt you. For you, it depends, but i think most people would say they can find a relationship fulfilling without having to share all of their sexual history. As for the other person it depends what you guys consider important or not. A lot of people would feel betrayed not knowing something so deep into a relationship as at a certain point it feels like yo…
/r/MGTOW206/05/20 04:25 AM
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I'm not going to watch it, I come here to talk about MGTOW, not to see someone post daily videos about their thoughts on MGTOW because they are trying to build an audience but masquerading as it just being easier than typing, even though he is literally typing to have this conversation now.
/r/MGTOW206/05/20 01:24 AM
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So much of it is just addiction I think. If you take drugs away from someone who does drugs they often find themselves doing all sorts of things. Remove the internet for a few days, shut off the cable, the video games, anything thats designed to make you consume instead of produce, and you'll find yourself just doing nothing. After about 24 hours you get bored of nothing and start actually getting shit done. They do it to writers all the time.
/r/MGTOW206/05/20 01:23 AM
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Why post a video when you could just talk about the subject as it relates to MGTOW here?
/r/MGTOW206/05/20 12:47 AM
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The idea of motivation, particularly from books / self help materials, never sat right with me. I imagine you've tried it before right? and it seems to work at first, but then you return back to your less productive ways, and then you ask for new book suggestions because you felt like you were close to a breakthrough but something wasn't right. Generally when something isn't right it's you, and no amount of self help books will fix that if one self help book isn't going to do it alone. You are m…
/r/MGTOW205/05/20 11:21 PM
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Except for how its literally about how giving women rights leads to the downfall of society.
/r/MGTOW205/05/20 08:25 PM
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Except its literally just talking about how women having rights leads to the downfall of society. You can do as many mental gymnastics as you want but this is a board for talking about self improvement in the mgtow life style. I'm not even arguing that it is wrong, just that it clearly is against the rules here.
/r/MGTOW205/05/20 08:24 PM
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it's not just you can't rely on then but also it's the one sided law that women can divorce rape you . No one said it was, thats not the point of this board either. It's to talk about self improvement, not every which way you can find an issue with women.
/r/MGTOW205/05/20 06:47 PM
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Here he clearly states how increase in women's rights is deteremental to happiness of society and gives examples of spartans He clearly states his opinion. This is not the right board for this regardless.
/r/MGTOW205/05/20 06:27 PM
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hey man, shit happens, and I can't think of any excuse better than 'a global pandemic started killing unprecedented numbers of people forcing a horrifying combination of physical isolation and mental stress'. You've caught it and can start working again, but its okay if you don't jump right back, the worlds all sorts of fucked up and even if its just internal issues its still a lot of stress to carry.
/r/MGTOW205/05/20 04:40 PM
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hey i could use that too ill reach out. Pact* btw.
/r/MGTOW205/05/20 06:02 AM
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A little internet arguing is nice I think, but you have to be willing to cut it off at some point. Humans are designed to have conflict and society often makes it impossible or not wise to address the conflicts we face there, so arguing online is a great way to channel that energy. But it can be too much.
/r/MGTOW205/05/20 04:43 AM
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sounds like a comfy ass life. It is tempting.
/r/MGTOW204/05/20 08:28 PM
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It sounds like you weren't legitimately friends. That isn't to say you couldn't be friends, but we are too quick to label people as friends these days, different dynamics that are equally meaningful do exist. Yours was mostly geared towards romance, even if you had some shared interest it doesn't turn it to friendship.
/r/MGTOW204/05/20 08:27 PM
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count it as someone asking for advice. Not when its pity-party-tier. feel free to post some. I do, it doesn't change my concern.
/r/MGTOW203/05/20 09:07 PM
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Why has the board become a whiny place where nonMGTOW people come to complain about life and dating?
/r/MGTOW203/05/20 07:53 PM
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Being different from others shouldn't stop you from exploring what fulfills you, everyone is different in that regard so being the same as them won't exactly help. You try finding fulfillment by trying things that interest you and seeing how you do, no different than a normal person.
/r/MGTOW203/05/20 04:26 AM
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Or, we could follow the rules of this board and just focus on ourselves instead of on women. You know, like were going our own way or something.
/r/MGTOW202/05/20 02:45 AM
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increase their odds of a successful relationship I don't care if I increased the odds of successfully getting away with murder, I'm not going to do it because its not worth spending the rest of my life in jail. select a sensible and intelligent woman who is willing to work hard for a relationship. The thing is, guys aren't going around and choosing girls willy nilly then popping the question. Every guy who gets married has a friend reminding them of the issues with marriage and divorce. Sensible…
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 04:56 PM
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I think you worry about things too much. If you have no place to put it that feels particularly important to you then why does it matter if it goes to groups that help both red or blue pilled men? You're not going to find any place that is 'right' with that kind of logic, so why does it matter? Just pick something that feeds the homeless or helps the vet or castrates dogs and spend your life worrying about what you're doing before you die, not after.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 06:25 AM
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At the point of realizing it we were already two arguments into this and very insulting to each other. I'm no robot and don't imagine you would have done much differently that late in the game until you had a chance to sat down and back track. your entire thread with the stats makes literally zero sense though, do you not actually realize that? it wasn't a disagreement about what they infer, my initial point was that were already beyond were almost beyond what the death toll is supposed to be fo…
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 06:21 AM
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One thing I actually want to apologize for is being more antagonistic in my early responses. I did so under the assumption that you were the OP, and while your stats were just outright wrong and your points still don't make sense, going at you that way was definitely not how I would have if I didn't trick myself into thinking you were him before.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 06:10 AM
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You're not the only one allowed to make mistakes.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 06:06 AM
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It's not if I say so, you can legitimately see it and then you having to back track when you realized you got it wrong, then referencing another article that still doesn't back up anything. You can say 'if you say so' and call me 'buddy' all you want, but it doesn't erase your stupidity.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 06:06 AM
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You haven't gotten a single stat right, all I did was point that out. The only comment I made about the 3 million was that it was the higher estimate for if we didn't quarantine.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 05:48 AM
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It seems I did. That was definitely not intentional. The world can still definitely see that you are an idiot.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 05:48 AM
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Not sure how you could manage to interpret the CDC’s own data as comparable to their initial estimates of 3 million but hey go for it little dude. I didn't. You keep bringing up random things and acting like I said it, but I didn't. the cdc data you sent was all influenza, the 3 million is for covid, they're not even related.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 05:45 AM
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with actual gun fire, no, but they do take the time to post pictures of them using their guns as giant penises, as I already said. Comparing bullets flying to the day to day of a hospital (even in a pandemic) is pretty silly here, bullets flying would be in the emergency room if you want to stick to this parallel. I never said everything they do is awful You didn't have to. Acting like everything they do is awful says it for you.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 05:41 AM
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It is often hard to describe fun things because the only word we have to describe them are 'fun'. Why do we play wrestle? Because its fun. We don't get to do that as much as adults but the desire to do so doesn't go away, nature doesn't tell us to stop horsing around as adults let alone to stop fighting. Banter is a way to channel that energy, both for physical and verbal fights. Beyond that its hard to say. A lot of it is meant to be funny because of how 'aggressive' it is, the humor is that yo…
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 05:39 AM
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My apologies, I thought you were OP. You're not a douche, you're just terribly wrong about all the stats you posted. So that is something.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 05:36 AM
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The only edits I've made thus far other then immediate last minute sentences additions is just adding the word 'to' and such between two other words to highlight my point. you can use the other website to see the original post which still had the original point.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 05:35 AM
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While they make tiktoks and choreograph dances when hospitals are at “maximum capacity” Seems like a stupid point to make, every fucking military unit from the beginning of photographic history has a picture of some guys holding up some massive ass weapons and pretending that it's a humongous penis. Taking 30 seconds to twerk in a video doesn't suddenly mean that the people at these hospitals aren't dealing with a pandemic. I don't even like women, but you should try to not be that guy who insis…
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 04:53 AM
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That still doesn't make any sense. in the sources you site the death toll was 61 thousand total, which is a high year but thats still the total for the year, versus the 54 thousand that we've had just so far after two months of quarantining. It's less than ten thousand higher than we are just at this point, and without quarantining it would be far worse. So yes, you can call this a pandemic, and not a flu that people could have gone and gotten vaccinated for. but be an obfuscating douchebag this…
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 04:46 AM
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For me I only ever really felt that intense 'hormonal' reaction in relationships, that physical need that isn't quite lust that tells you you're suposed to be near this person. That hasn't really gone away, but I find i am able to better indulge it from a 'friends with benefits' place, where I can still do romantic things but im not obligated to do anything more than be myself.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 02:09 AM
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So the CDC is wrong? about what? IT doesn't contradict anything I said, the page you linked just now claims that the US death toll for flu for 2018-2019 was only 31 thousand people. Just under half of what the current US Covid death toll is.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 02:03 AM
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You're a special kind of stupid. the 3 million predicted death toll is for the US alone, 1% of our roughly 300 million population. More people did not die of the 2018/2019 seasonal flu, which kills less than 1 million people worldwide each year. the 3 million death toll is more than 3 times the size of the world wide population, and just in america alone.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 01:21 AM
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We have definitely not exceeded initial death toll estimates. Well first off, I never said we did. I said we were about to. Additionally, I said 'for the summer', which is not 3 million, that is the overall death toll. Google 'corona virus death toll US August' and you'll see 74 thousand, first post. So you definitely didn't. Your point is worthless.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 01:15 AM
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I feel that going your own way is actually the easy way out. Yes, not losing your kids and your wife and 50% of your financial assets is the easy way out. Can we not pretend that doing something dangerously stupid is somehow noble? Yeah were meant to be fathers and have families, but were not meant to do it anywhere near the way we are doing it today. Even without divorce and alimony and all that BS its still far, far removed from what we are 'supposed' to do naturally. We gave up on natural a l…
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 12:37 AM
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This is an incredibly interesting read so far, connects a lot of different I knew were somehow related before but wasn't quite sure how. Thus far its not women hating, it makes some jokes about ultra woke and ultra conservative, but its just to help paint the picture of the debate thus far before diving into the nit and grit.
/r/MGTOW230/04/20 08:15 PM
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Just enjoying life, really. I gave up on women around 2012 or 2013. I just got out of a relationship, the longest one I had ever been in, and I just felt so tired. I had lived a life of floating from one girl to the next and just thought for once I would make the actual effort to stay single for some time. I didn't even want to do that 'pseudo' date thing where do all the couple stuff but dont put a label on it. Suddenly the world seemed like a pretty great place. I was able to look back at my a…
/r/MGTOW230/04/20 07:19 PM
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You have definitely not taken the time to actually read what I said.
/r/MGTOW230/04/20 05:47 PM
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There hasn't been a food 'shortage' there has just been an excess of buying. The shops didn't come understocked, on the contrary farmers are destroying a lot of food that they would normally have sold to the restaurants.
/r/MGTOW230/04/20 05:11 PM
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Nope. It is really hard for me to take something as disastrous as a worldwide pandemic, one where were already about to exceed the estimated death toll for the summer before it's even begun, and feel smug just because some news channels aren't talking about how shitty white men are as a result.
/r/MGTOW230/04/20 05:10 PM
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"End of story" Not the end of story, you are no authority on the subject. That being said, you're also just missing the joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVcLIfSC4OE
/r/MGTOW230/04/20 04:42 AM
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Sorry, but I can't sell drugs to inner minors. It's an ethics thing.
/r/MGTOW230/04/20 02:46 AM
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I can't, I'm too busy selling drugs.
/r/MGTOW230/04/20 02:01 AM
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MGTOW is about loving yourself Is it though? That never really seemed like one of the key components, you can write off any thing as being about loving yourself with the same logic honestly. All that being said, being fat is not much different than taking in any other vice, we all have them. Even thin people can lead unhealthy lifestyles between exercise, or smoking, or drinking. I'm just not really into policing how 'everyone' should be on some same path. I'm by no means fat, but I follow self …
/r/MGTOW230/04/20 01:34 AM
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r/whoosh
/r/MGTOW229/04/20 11:04 PM
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I'm not sure I would agree on that being how we define what is valued in a man. Just off the top of my head I think its more about: -Swiftness, similar to that of what some might call a coursing river. -forceful, but in that philosophical way, such as the way a great typhoon is. -Strong, in a way that burns everything bad in your path, almost like a fire or something. -you want women to think of you like the dark side of the moon, something beautiful that they can recognize, but still cast in sh…
/r/MGTOW229/04/20 09:15 PM
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Think of it like your retardation. It is simply not a choice.
/r/MGTOW229/04/20 06:13 PM
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Because friendship isn't romance, nor is it sexual. This is something a lot of gay guys don't seem to comprehend despite how stupid the logic is.
/r/MGTOW229/04/20 05:02 PM
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In sorry you can't havr fulfilling interactiona with men without feeling gay, but for the rest of us its just called friendship.
/r/MGTOW229/04/20 04:31 PM
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I find friendships with women to be far less fulfilling on almost any level. The best I can hope for with a woman is to say the same things I would to a man but with a 10 second delay because I had to calculate how they would perceive it. Even if I can go in knowing that I am not simping with my intentions I cannot trust that they will see it that way as well. I'm not into the women hating we see on MGTOW1, it certainly isn't an us versus them situation in my mind, but it is about choosing who I…
/r/MGTOW229/04/20 05:07 AM
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Thats fucking sick man, I'm trying to get my weight under control before it becomes a serious problem here but I keep pushing it off day by day.
/r/MGTOW228/04/20 05:06 PM
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My life has just been me face planting into things I enjoy thankfully. I was really proud of the first web series I made, as I love storytelling and really wanted to have a complete story from beginning to end. a lot of people in the fandom were making similar web series at the time but I was the only one who ever actually finished. When I was a kid I really liked all things paranormal, psychics and UFOs and such. My first job as an adult was working for a psychic. For the first month I was his …
/r/MGTOW228/04/20 05:02 PM
3

The problem with terms like Conservative is that they really only have one alternative, liberal, depending on who you ask. Sure you can say there are centrist to, but what does that mean other than having a nuanced view? You can look at something, acknowledge that it is broken, and not be conservative. A lot of MGTOWs, particularly here on MGTOW2, acknowledge that the divorce system is broken if it forces men to pay alimony the way it does, but that doesn't mean they believe divorce should be ou…
/r/MGTOW228/04/20 04:13 PM
1

I have been trimming my own hair when it gets long before the quarantine started. Different parts of your hair grow at different speeds and the way it falls makes it awkwardly shaped so doing a little trimming between cuts makes the shape look more natural and gives me more time before I need a real haircut, as I enjoy experiences different hairstyles cycles from short to long. I haven't had to do anything yet, its only been a month and my hair grows slow, but im at the point where I need to sta…
/r/MGTOW228/04/20 04:08 PM
1

He isn't triggered, nor did he 'put you down'. He opened with a sincere apology as he didn't want to ruffle any feathers but he still wanted to be able to voice his opinion. If you're going to say anyone who disagreed with you is 'triggered' you really shouldn't try having conversations with people. I could understand if he was aggressive, but he took a tactful approach where he frankly didn't need to. Your response is the equivalent of calling someone gay because they said they don't like gay p…
/r/MGTOW228/04/20 04:04 PM
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Didn't work for Oprah. Sometimes the best way to keep in business is to have a going out of business sell though.
/r/MGTOW227/04/20 06:37 AM
2

yes
/r/MGTOW227/04/20 05:46 AM
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I don't really see the issue, I mean most adoption isn't from some well meaning father who died, it's from a father who also ditched the woman but now the woman wants to ditch the kid as well. Taking care of someone elses kid is taking care of someone elses kid. I do see why its an issue in terms of you not getting the full parental authority though. An argument with the mother means suddenly all that investment in the kid, both time and money, flies out the window and you may never see them aga…
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 11:43 PM
1

No, people plan and work towards the future all the time. You can argue that is a choice they make perpetually in the moment but you might as well be saying nothing at that point because the original question still stands.
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 07:18 PM
1

DEEEP.
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 06:37 PM
1

you are not keeping this board 'safe' by posting about them posting about me commenting on someone here posting about them.
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 03:45 PM
1

This is so stupid. Obviously they think I'm a woman because i point out that they wont stop bitching about women. Can you please not perpetuate their nonsense by reposting it here? Don't give me shit about 'this place needs to be protected', you are not protecting this board by posting about them posting about me commenting on someone here posting about them.
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 03:45 PM
1

Still not the place for it.
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 12:56 AM
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Right, but if we just keep complaining about them were just becoming them. they hate women so decide to go MGTOW spend all their time talking about how much they hate women We hate MGTOW1 talking about how much they hate women so decide to make MGTOW 2 spend all our time talking about how much we hate that they hate women This isn't a board for hating on MGTOW1 any more than it is for hating on women.
/r/MGTOW225/04/20 09:41 PM
1

of course, do fun things, why didn't I think of that.
/r/MGTOW225/04/20 05:32 PM
1

Those aren't really key focuses, they're just vague ideas.
/r/MGTOW225/04/20 04:20 PM
2

I tried that, and it didn't quite pan out. I had filmed an entire feature and was editing and hitting so many walls that I thought doing a short film would be a nice little break to feel like I got something done. It never got finished either unfortuneately.
/r/MGTOW225/04/20 04:40 AM
3

Everyone makes everyone feel guilty for everything. Everyone thinks if the shirt fits them then it should fit everyone else and those who claim to be happy despite being different are in denial.
/r/MGTOW225/04/20 03:33 AM
3

I feel like I haven't felt pride as often as I used to, I really miss it. Occasionally it creeps back but its for old things. I'd like to finish something new.
/r/MGTOW225/04/20 03:32 AM
1

That makes sense. Are you any good with artistry in carpentry?
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 10:08 PM
1

is that really all that dangerous?
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 09:59 PM
1

What even is a joiner?
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 09:43 PM
3

there is something about it that gives you a sense of cohesion, not trying to detach and pretend that your body doesn't matter, working it to be on par with the rest of you.
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 09:41 PM
1

I can see why it is important to you though, that's quite an approach to life you have. What kind of work do you do now and what type of work do you hope to settle in later?
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 08:46 PM
2

I used to live that way as well so I know how great it can be. Life just becomes very comfy when you enjoy your work the right amount. I used to have a small office in the west side of the city that I just loved running. It was such a cozy time.
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 08:43 PM
4

've been working out consistently for over 40 years and I plan to continue for as long as I can. I like when people make physical pursuits an important aspect of their life. We live in a culture that likes to worship good physique but then claim physique doesn't matter at all and detach ourselves entirely from our bodies as being a part of ourselves, but our brain works in tandem with our bodies and exercise changes who you are internally so much.
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 08:42 PM
1

What drew you to this goal?
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 07:48 PM
1

how long have you been training for that? Is it your key goal in life? Do you not have goals beyond that or is your life more of a premise that you enjoy and smaller goals make up the bulk of your adventures?
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 07:25 PM
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I'm glad I pointed out how simplistic your point is, it showed that you are just as simplistic as a person. I can't imagine how far gone you have to be to think that anyone who disagrees with you has a 'miserable attitude'. I seem to be doing just fine in regards to communication with everyone else, the only common denominator here is you. Gonna just go ahead and block.
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 07:25 PM
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That does sound comfy. Even if you only hit half your goals, it is a nice life to live. I imagine having a degree would also make promotion to things like detective go faster and give you preference over others who are performing just as well but with less education as well.
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 07:21 PM
3

That isn't even true though. One person talked about wanting to be financially independent so he can retire early. Another mentions money, but for his passion: helping animals. Another talked about the boston marathon. The other had career aspirations, and that isn't wrong. You went from complaining about how people want money to now people talking about what their career goals are. And you calling out people the few people replying trying to help I literally only 'called out' you, but you aren'…
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 07:19 PM
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So far only one of them is about money, but it's a pretty detailed explanation of retirement and leisure and such, not just 'get rich for the sake of rich'. I appreciate the effort, but it's a little patronizing.
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 07:10 PM
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Find something in life you are passionate about. Don't take this the wrong way, but I was asking for other peoples stories for a reason. I understand you mean well but no one sees that and thinks 'of course, do something I'm passionate about, why didn't I think of that!?'
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 07:05 PM
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A lot of your ideas seem to conflict, aren't police trained via police academy as opposed to college? I don't imagine a detective will be somewhat rich, let alone enough to help abandoned animals outside of adopting some pets.
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 07:04 PM
0

You can't. Short of chemical castration you are asking how to undo biology and if that was an option you can achieve than humanity would have died out before it started. Commitment isn't something you do because its easy, it is something you do because it is worth it even if it is hard. Just do yourself a favor and hit on ugly chicks.
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 06:02 PM
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Weird, its framed as a question, but it's more of a lecture that assumes we didn't even do what the question assumes we did.
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 03:58 AM
1

okay then.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 10:00 PM
1

Largely unrelated, when you're applying for a position do you honestly think the guy sitting behind the desk goes with the online degree versus an actual university, let alone an ivy league one? Just because they also pull people from overseas doesn't mean the college situation is negated, don't be willfully ignorant. As for starting your own practice, don't act like the importance of a degree means you can't build yourself up, that isn't remotely what I said or implied, again you're just being …
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 09:59 PM
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The hostile people are just individuals in the state they're in at the moment of typing, MGTOW has nothing to do with that I never claimed the link was between the two. I'm just talking about the behavior of some people in the thread, not MGTOW. and all the rest is just up to the individual(s) "and they lived happily (or not) ever after" I still have no idea what you are trying to say here.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 09:45 PM
1

nobody cares where your degree came from the people who hire you sure do.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 09:44 PM
1

The rest is up to the individual && hapily_ever_after_default_movie_ending.jpg What are you trying to say here, it seems extremely unclear.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 09:33 PM
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Oh wow, thank you man, I made a thread asking for MGTOW suggestions a week ago but a lot of people were really hostile when I asked their reasoning on why the movies were MGTOW to them, as most people just listed a title and said nothing of it. The big issue was that I had wanted films that have a MGTOW vibe in the sense that they focus on a singular male or male dynamics / friendships, as opposed to it being some tragedy about a girl screwing him over or getting his life together because of som…
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 08:54 PM
1

It's weird.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 08:49 PM
1

Have brain Doubtful. Hopefully OP looks to you as evidence that he should go to a real fucking college.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 05:08 PM
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just scroll up and read it. Or don't bother, I'm not really invested in this conversation after that kind of bs.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 04:44 PM
1

Came here to say this. I understand some of your sentiments in regards to what this board is about: the betterment of self without the women, but there is no reason we can't have discussions about life and what to do with it and such. I get why complaining about women is a no go here, kind of the intention, but its hard for a lot of young men to figure out about their life or even MGTOW without having conversations with them about it. I do hope the mods do more to stop posts asking for dating ad…
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 04:35 PM
1

its an over examination of a replaceable verb that misses the point entirely.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 04:31 PM
1

no one has to say the word drift for it to become relevant.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 04:19 PM
1

I never claimed there aren't exceptions, but you're not going to be able to drift through life on those particular opportunities.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 06:55 AM
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I dont know if MGTOW1 can be blamed for this one, they're pretty anti-dating over three when they talk about women its just with aggression. I noticed this too though, today in particular had a lot of 'i need advice about dating' threads. Seems really weird regardless of the MGTOW board, I know a lot of MGTOWs still do something resembling dating but its not asking about how to put the proper restrictions in place they're just acting like we give regular dating advice.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 06:19 AM
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Wouldn't any resources about how to be happy while alone help? I don't imagine the answer is a single page that says 'date women'.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 05:05 AM
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i wouldn't say so. I'm right wing, trump voter, MAGA hat and all, but I prefer this one over the other. I don't particularly like women but thats why I like this place, because you can have a lot of conversation about stuff other than women. On the other board you really ONLY get to talk about women.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 04:39 AM
2

try not to spam the board with multiple videos in a day.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 03:52 AM
1

I read the book and saw the movie, read the OP, it is the exact opposite of what I described.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 03:28 AM
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whats with all the posts today talking about relationships with women?
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 01:15 AM
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I never understood this. Don't get me wrong I heard the whole 20/80 thing of men and women, but it can't be that horrendously bad, I see ugly men, fat men, poor men all dating and getting laid, it just tends to be with ugly, fat, and poor women. You only have to pay if you want someone who is insanely more attractive than you.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 12:02 AM
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Probably not. The truth is that no place is ever going to think of online classes as being worth as much as in person classes, even if you're given the same course material. It would do you better to work through your issues with classrooms, its just sitting in a room and listening to someone talk so if that is distressing you're going to find a lot of stress when you go to work.
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 11:39 PM
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this is the MGTOW board, some people date sure but its all done under the assumption of being temporary and not too committal.
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 09:48 PM
2

Thanks. I found the Five deadly venoms so I'll start there and see if I dig it. Thanks for the suggestions.
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 06:03 PM
2

even if it has a message you agree with it's always like 'so? Thanks for trying to brainwash me with my old ideas?' People like learning new view points in film, but propaganda of opinion isn't 'learning' its 'do this or you bad' or 'do this or, you stupid'. The height of storytelling has always been the examination of character through the lens of philosophy, not politics or "social-politics"
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 04:37 PM
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This actually soudns up my alley, I made a thread the other day looking for MGTOW films, specifically ones that focus on brotherhood and friendship as opposed to just being about a woman getting screwed over by women. Are there any that deal with more scifi or supernatural elements? I don't imagine these are popular things in Hong Kong the way they are in the west, particularly for classics, but I'm open to any suggestions about brotherhood oriented stories, particularly where the arcs hinge on …
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 04:34 PM
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Part of the point of MGTOW is to not make some broad general sweeping commitment to a woman that fucks up your own life. Making a broad general sweeping commitment against woman at the age of 16 is particularly troublesome. Generally if a 16 year old gets into MGTOW it is because they struggled with dating in highschool and are trying to take control of the issues by making it a choice. A lot of MGTOWs don't consider you a '''real''' MGTOW until you have had some serious dating experience. Other…
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 04:31 PM
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nope its been that way for as long as I've known it, I've been banned a dozen times for similar comments. My most recent ban was just explaining to someone that MGTOW2 was a better place to go for non-women discussion.
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 04:09 PM
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Thanks for the detailed response man. Saw a few arcs of one piece and never quite found it to by my thing, particularly when chopper came in. I remember loving it on its premiere but each episode having that interest halved after he came in
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 04:16 AM
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Just the normal amount
/r/MGTOW221/04/20 09:44 PM
2

You can invest in a story even if you wouldn't indulge in parts of it in your real life.
/r/MGTOW221/04/20 08:45 PM
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People who tend to search specifically for meaning end up doing things for the sake of meaning and end up finding very little of it. If you're nurturing your relationships with family just for the sake of meaning than it is going to be a hollow act, you can't really trick yourself into doing it correctly, it becomes about a goal. It's funny because those who seek meaning end up finding very little and those who don't worry about it and pursue their actual interests often drown in it. As for what…
/r/MGTOW221/04/20 05:49 PM
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I try to defend MGTOW1 but since it's quarantine it seems to have only become its bad qualities. Last week I posted the same thread on MGTOW1 and MGTOW2, a thread asking for MGTOW movie suggestions where the narrative doesn't reduce the man's arc to a woman, even if its learning about the 'nature of women', I just didn't want to see it. The MGTOW2 thread got well over 100 replies with a lot of discussion about different films and users MGTOW interpretations of them. There was some arguing sure, …
/r/MGTOW221/04/20 05:24 PM
1

This was quite the journey you took us on in just two paragraphs.
/r/MGTOW221/04/20 05:22 PM
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Similar dynamic with my roommate, particularly with corona. We basically decided were sticking with each other, if its time to leave the city we go together too. It's been weird having us cook since we can't get food out and about as much. I'm a bit salty tonight though because he is at a friends, haven't socialized with someone else in over a month now.
/r/MGTOW221/04/20 04:17 AM
2

Writing about philosophy is often an exercise for ourselves more than it is for others, so you have nothing to lose other than time. For those who wish to write its better to start young. Age gives you worldy experience but it doesn't give you experience in writing let alone actually exploring those philosophies you've learned from living. I do a lot of writing and when I was young it was generally bad, both because I knew little about writing and little about life, but if I had waited until now…
/r/MGTOW220/04/20 05:42 PM
2

And I find it, completely freeing. Sure, but all you did was describe what literally everyone else experiences as well: that only friends and family care about you.
/r/MGTOW219/04/20 04:37 PM
1

huck finn wasn't going to any particularly well to do school from what I recall.
/r/MGTOW219/04/20 04:35 PM
1

I'm curious as to why you are curious about why hs gay.
/r/MGTOW218/04/20 11:32 PM
4

What I noticed is men don't seem to hide their emotions they just don't embellish them with actions. Women cry because they can't control it but most men don't need to cry as often as women do.
/r/MGTOW218/04/20 11:08 PM
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I agree for the most part. I 'went my own way' before I even knew what MGTOW was mostly because I didn't enjoy the feminine spirit very much. There is a time and a place for it but its very particular for me and I just enjoy either being alone or in the company of other men for the most part. Right now we live in a time where that is blasphemy, it's wrong to actually like men more than women just on a social level, its sexist. Women take time and energy, the best I can ever hope for with a woman…
/r/MGTOW218/04/20 10:53 PM
2

I tend to use a schedule but i don't like to set hourly goals as they're too easy to fall behind on over simple things and I often feel like I don't have the time to immerse. Instead what I like to do is write a list in the exact order I plan to do things, and I include adequate breaks in there as well. Sometimes for instance I'll be writing and I'll write a LOT longer than I expected and don't get to do the rest, but i dont hold it against myself because productivitiy is productivity.
/r/MGTOW218/04/20 04:53 PM
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Most people fall for a good song because of the beat, lyrics are explored further later and can help deepen your relationship to the music though. Most love songs, at least the good ones, express a sentiment. They aren't just 'hey i met a girl, wow were in love, oh boy we live happily ever after'. Mr Brightside is specifically about finding your partner is cheating on you, "I'm not going to teach your boyfriend how to dance with you" is about a guy who is great at dancing, but not much else. He …
/r/MGTOW218/04/20 03:54 AM
3

For me I actually joined a business that was 30 years into its creation and turned it around when it was falling apart, so the owner made me a co owner which was nice. Unfortunately he was the product (I handled the business side) so when he died it just meant I had a lot of assets to sell, which helped take care of me during the grieving process at least. After that I was offered a job at another small business and am not quite at co-owner yet but were at the point where were splitting the prof…
/r/MGTOW17/04/20 07:13 PM
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It's a pretty bullshit slogan, I thought Disney was only doing it as a high school musical reference. The rich are not my enemy though, no more than anyone else really.
/r/MGTOW17/04/20 07:04 PM
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There aren't nearly as many doctors as there are nurses for a reason. Doctors are very managerial with nurses doing most of the work. For instance even in a high end hospital here in los angeles an entire floor will be managed by one doctor who just makes his rounds by going from room to room once a day looking at each patients chart, seeing how their condition has changed since the day before, and telling the nurses what the patient needs this day differently from the day before. Both do extrem…
/r/MGTOW17/04/20 06:13 PM
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IDK man, when I was in the army we'd do silly shit like this all the time, go on to YouTube and you'll see there are plenty of videos of soldiers doing goofy stuff inbetween the very real and hard work that we have to do, a day before and a day after someone dies. look at black and white photos from world war 1 or 2 and you'll still see men holding giant fucking weapons in front of them and pretending its their huge cock. Point is that people have always done goofy things even in times of crisis…
/r/MGTOW17/04/20 05:17 PM
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The way I see it, men were always the active agents in society where as women were the more passive maintainers of society. Society can't run with just 'two' roles, so while some may think being a man means X, Y or Z, the truth is that both roles have to have a lot of sub-roles branching off from them. The construction worker thinks he's a real man because he is the one who works with his muscles and body to build important things society needs. He laughs at the business man with his soft body w…
/r/MGTOW217/04/20 05:14 PM
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You deliberately lied because you knew I would point it out and somehow this makes me mentally ill? I came here entirely for other people's perspectives, heard some great ones and even started watching their recommendations. Your ''perspective'' is just rude. I'm sorry I took you seriously to begin with, won't make that mistake again. Have a good one.
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 11:09 PM
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You could do what everyone else does Don't pretend people don't ask for details, stop acting like its the end of the world. The trailer for Ferris Buellers day off isn't going to really highlight the friendship aspect of the film for instance, so I never would have tried it if not for a user who posted talking about that friendship aspect. you know, like the rest of us You in particular, but plenty of people enjoyed talking about their choices in this thread and what made it fit the niche, which…
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 10:31 PM
1

Isn't that just about a guy who pines for a woman for an entire movie and then gets pulled in to be a beta bucks supporter when he makes it big?
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 09:30 PM
1

So this is why they like tall men, because only someone really tall could manage to stick it in them and still be able to reach around so much fat to kiss their face.
/r/MGTOW16/04/20 05:31 PM
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We are certainly a part of it, the mice checking out of society to groom themselves. There are other men dropping out who aren't really in the movement though, I was 'MGTOW' for like 6 years before I actually discovered MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 05:20 PM
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Thats kind of my point though, we are the board of people who don't date... so our advice is just going to be dont date.
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 05:17 PM
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Imagine being so business savy that you can't find a way to make money without selling your body. YOU'RE SO SMART SO FIGURING OUT HOW TO UPLOAD VIDEOS OF YOURSELF NAKED
/r/MGTOW16/04/20 05:12 PM
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> All I wanted was a loyal woman to have a family with and show that no matter what that I'd love you unconditionally. You sound young, man. This is a really terrible outlook for life, to look for someone to love unconditionally. That just isn't how relationships work, and trying to define your future relationships with this mindset when you don't have anyone in particular to project these feelings onto doesn't make sense. Love is supposed to be a special and unique experience, but when you have…
/r/MGTOW16/04/20 05:07 PM
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Why are you even on this board? It sounds like you actively want to date women. Our advice is break up, she isn't enriching your life only making it worse and you're in highschool so having a serious talk won't fix anything.
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 05:04 PM
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I would say so, yeah, even the ending. I would place it in the same category as The Outsiders even though it does have a big female role in it just because so much of the development of what happens is just not about her. You could honestly remove her and still get virtually the same story, but her inclusion doesn't hurt it from a MGTOW perspective as it ultimately just talks about the cycles of mens life, including women but making them just a part of the cycle as opposed to being of great impo…
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 04:59 PM
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I love the subtle metaphors of that bit. In film a 'house' is generally a metaphor for one's self, and when he arrives at the broken-down house he arrives at what his life is: a broken mess. He is able to use it to explore himself and who he is though, with the only other person there being an alternate version of himself. He either exercises to improve himself or reads literature that, while stupid, helps him better express himself and work through his feelings. When the girl is in his house, a…
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 04:45 PM
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If its a waste of time dont post. Your opinion isn't so important, youre free to go do other stuff. In yhe future if you dont want to talk about movies I reccomend not going into a thread for talking about movies. Too smart?
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 04:40 PM
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If you don't want to talk about movies and their MGTOW elements you dont have to post in the thread. Seems silly to go to a thread with this intention and insist people just watch whatever you tell them to wothout context. Wishing I was fat or ate Cheetos because it would make you feel better is like a woman calling you an incel because you disagreed with her. There are plenty of people who didnt mind talking about their recommendations and explaining their thoughts on them in this thrrad its cl…
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 04:39 PM
1

What?
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 12:59 AM
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We'd need to know more to really weigh in but there is no real answer. Life is such that you can pick up and go somewhere entirely new and find happiness and new friends pretty easily. The only thing you can't get from starting over is an old friend. Something to think about.
/r/MGTOW15/04/20 09:36 PM
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I would likely explain it in a way that would sound appealing. That's not the case at all though, this thread is a perfect example. Some people perfectly explain their POV in a way that I can completely understand why they like it but can easily acknowledge that those are not things that I enjoy. Even when it came to shawshank it didn't sound like something I would like when I heard about it but people insisted I had to really see it to experience it, still just wasn't very into it. Without this…
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 09:25 PM
1

Could you provide context for any of these?
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 08:51 PM
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Imagine being so far gone that you can't even trust your husband to play video games with his daughter without assuming he raped her. Why would you marry a man if you can't even handle them playing video games together?
/r/MGTOW15/04/20 06:08 PM
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No he doesn't change because of his relationship to a woman. The pretty cheerleader is the catalyst, sure Those just sound like two contradictory statements. I'm not asking if he is saved, educated or redeemed by a woman but if his changes are in relation to her. Whether its in a positive way, or turning away from her, or 'oh i did this for her but i learned to do it for myself along the way' i am just not interested because it is still just about his relationship to a woman. It's kind of like t…
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 05:59 PM
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Am I wrong in thinking that this movie is about a guy who ultimately changes because of his relationship to a woman? That feels like the picture you're painting. My thing is I just like stories about men, particularly in regards to friendship and other similar dynamics, where their development doesn't hinge on women, whether its towards them or away from them or just perpendicular to them.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 05:25 PM
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You do realize you can 'try new things' while still asking about them, right? I work from home so my hours aren't any different than they were before this quarantine started. If people don't want to explain the context of films that is fine, but last time I tried just diving in blind I ended up watching five movies I hated, something easily avoided if people just explained the context of the film as it relates to the conversation. If they don't want to do that, that is fine, but I'm not going to…
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 05:03 PM
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Sorry if I was unclear, in the OP my intention was to say that I'm looking for films that aren't about how men relate to women, and making a point how you don't relate to women is just relating to women, very MGTOW1 as opposed to MGTOW2, which is more about the genuine exploration of life without women. The Outsiders was amazing because the explorations weren't in relation to a girl, they were just about their own growth with arcs that hinged on each others survival and feelings.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 04:42 PM
1

A trailer doesn't tell me the MGTOW aspect or your personal connection to it.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 04:39 PM
1

A review from someone on YouTube doesn't tell me the MGTOW aspect or your personal connection to it.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 04:39 PM
1

It doesn't really sound like what we were discussing here, but it does sound like an interesting film nonetheless.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 04:38 PM
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Jesus man, I can't stand stories like that. I can't blame you for letting the mask fall there I'd have told her off too.
/r/MGTOW15/04/20 04:37 PM
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Conceptually it was fun and even as a serial i think it did better than most (it helps that it was a limited run), but two things really bugged me more than anything. The first was that it seemed to be all plot and no story, which is often a problem with serials. It seemed to masquerade as having a story but it never actually delivered on it, however I did only watch until L died because everyone said it flies off the rails and becomes totally unnecessary after that. Maybe if I watched the final…
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 04:36 PM
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Is it MGTOW beyond that though? Like I said I'm not looking for films that look beyond the women by making it only about looking beyond the women.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 04:30 PM
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I'm sorry but I've been told that a lot and its lead to a lot of time wasted.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 09:25 AM
1

That doesn't really tell me why though
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 09:24 AM
1

You didn't even read the initial post. Sounds like you didnt even read the title. This is my thread, I'm not fucking off.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 07:47 AM
2

What was vanishing point Bout?
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 07:27 AM
1

Im just trying to understand it.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 07:26 AM
1

What was the joke?
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 07:01 AM
0

Learn to read.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 07:00 AM
1

I'm aware of the csrtoon just not sure how its apllicable here. Did he not read books?
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 06:34 AM
1

What?
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 06:31 AM
1

I have read one book in the last 10 years.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 06:21 AM
1

Is there any film or show in particular you could elaborate on the MGTOW nature of? People recommended me 'resevoir dogs' claiming it was what i was looking for but i watched it and didn't feel anything, i felt like if they had explained their interest in it I could have understood if it was worth watching or not.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 05:36 AM
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A lot of things that are bad for one person's mental health are also essential for other people's development. Being bullied can be a terribly traumatizing experience that leads to nothing but disaster, but for a lot of people, it was 100% necessary, not even in the sense of 'oh it'll make you stronger in the long run' but in the short run. Almost everyone talks about being bullied at one point, but they stood up to them really fast. Most people experience some sort of bullying but they learn to…
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 05:28 AM
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Sure, but when the key plot thread is porn addict meets a woman and wants to change than having things branch off of that doesn't sound like its going to scratch the itch. It's not a matter of picky its just a baseline. Like if I asked for a scifi film and you recommended a fantasy film because they go to space in it that wouldn't be me being picky to not watch it. There's like 50 recommendations in this thread, I'm not gonna watch them all.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 05:19 AM
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I'm just really not looking for something that is about how a man relates to a woman, even if it turns positive, even if the woman is in the 'right place' for MGTOW stuff. For me MGTOW is just looking beyond your relationship with the opposite sex and defining yourself beyond it. Even doing so because of the opposite sex is still doing so because of the opposite sex.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 05:09 AM
1

What's up with that one?
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 05:07 AM
1

I really hate the 'rely on yourself' films, they never get me.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 05:05 AM
1

Killing Zoe I never heard of it, what is it about? Resevoir dogs I watched that, I understand why people like it but It wasn't quite for me. Despite The Outsiders being 'realistic' on the surface, I generally prefer films with a more surreal element to it. What is ghost dog and snatch?
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 05:04 AM
1

May I ask why?
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 03:45 AM
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Not a kid, like I said in the first post I already read That was then, this is now, and this is for movie recommendations, not books. Intellectual.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 03:17 AM
1

not really looking for MGTOW characters, more stories and themes. What are those first two about?
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 03:15 AM
1

There is no better way to spend a sunny day man, brings you right back to your primal roots.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 03:15 AM
2

Too far away for SF, its a good two hours from la but to the east, so way too far. Plus yku guys got all thr nude beaches and such up there.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 03:05 AM
1

That does sound interesting, thank you not just for the suggestion but really explaining the context. Im gonna check it out.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 03:04 AM
1

It's about him joining an elite police force that does not fit his more naive police officer vision and how he got there. What is MGTOW about that?
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 02:48 AM
1

I live in Los Angeles, its a bit of a drive out of the city and then a hike from there but its amazing, nice little pond in a sea of sand with fight and polliwogs and everything. Then theres two little hot springs right next to it, and no clothes necessary, it's just fucking paradise.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 02:48 AM
1

I actually like anime but despise deathnote.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 02:47 AM
2

kinda defeats the purpose of going to an oasis specifically doesn't it? I do mean a literal oasis, a pond of water in the middle of the desert near me. It's not really a place you go to put on more clothes, its like one of two places in driving distance where we go to be naked outside.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 02:16 AM
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Loved the book, as well as the prequel. It was my first 'adult' material when I went into 6th grade and they had a really big influence on me. I wish to hell I could get my hands on the TV show. It appears it was terrible but I am curious.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 01:40 AM
1

May I ask what the MGTOW element is in it for you?
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 01:40 AM
2

This coming weekend I’m gettin out to the woods. Lucky man, I wish I could go camping but it doesn't seem to be in the stars for me. We are considering heading up to this big hike with a nice oasis for a day tip sometime but its been really rainy here for some reason.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 12:52 AM
1

Sorry to hear it man, you on discord? I'm around for chitchat a lot if you get bored. Sent you my username in a DM. I'm doing pretty okay with the lockdown, all things considered. I still get some of my favorite restaurants delivered (or my sushi place is just a short walk away), and we have a nice suburban street I can take nice spring walks down with beautiful houses. I miss the gym, and I miss friends, but my roommate and I get along really well, I'm a good cook so even when we don't order ou…
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 12:25 AM
2

What makes you connect to it on the MGTOW level though?
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 11:23 PM
1

You're kinda giving me mixed signals here, whats the MGTOW aspect of it?
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 11:07 PM
0

Educated* Fixed that for you.
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 11:05 PM
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LonelyBobcat is a reference to Native American spirit totems. Each one is meant to teach a lesson as a spirit guide. For those who are born following the Bobcat, they are meant to learn how to be alone without being lonely. I used to go be LoneBobcat but when I broke up with my last girlfriend she said 'you should change your name to lonely bobcat because you're just going to feel lonely without me'. So I did change it as a sort of tongue in cheek joke at her expense. I am not lonely, nor are my…
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 10:53 PM
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but I guess you can factor in the survival and instinctual paranoia as development. You really can't. Thanks for the bladerunner suggestion as well, but I'm not looking for relationship lessons, even if they're MGTOW, I'm looking for stories that don't place that importance upon women and romantic relationships.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 10:49 PM
1

That seems to be the exact opposite of what I am looking for based off of what I described.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 10:48 PM
0

That... didn't really add to the discussion at all...
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 10:47 PM
5

It's almost as if society has changed so that men are only ever allowed to do things as it pleases the women around them.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 10:39 PM
2

Really? I know there aren't any women around but the men seem to go through no real personal journey, let alone one with each other. I remember it being more about whats happening on the screen and less about anything happening beneath the surface.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 10:38 PM
2

I understand that. My dad left for a year to go explore Greece and the entire time I was just reading 'Prisoner of Azkaban' on a loop because I liked the part where Harry found his godfather and started thinking about how great life could be with him.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 10:29 PM
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You don't have to tell me man, preaching to the choir here. It's one of my favorites for a reason and I think its an important lesson on how young men can have an affect on each other, something that is more important than ever with men turning away from romance as the answer to every question about meaning. It's a shame the LGBT crowd is giving her a hassle over this, and I thought JK Rowling had it bad just for asserting that biological sex was real.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 10:25 PM
5

Fuck dude, that's rough, if he's going to play the part he should at least commit if he's wasn't going to tell you the truth.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 10:02 PM
1

I saw Shawshank redemption and can appreciate why its MGTOW, but I didn't enjoy it very much. This is why I was hoping you could pick one or two and just give me the rundown of what it meant to you, because its very easy to tell if I am going to enjoy something based on what other people enjoyed about it. Otherwise its just another 5 films I'm not gonna enjoy.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 09:49 PM
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Whoa that is quite the list, but do you think you could pick a favorite and tell me why? I've been in similar threads where someone just makes a bunch of recommendations and people get mad when I ask for details but then when I try to watch these films I end up watching 5 things I didn't like at all.What do the exclamation marks mean?
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 09:40 PM
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Your dad really got around? Or was it more of a chain of things. My older brother was just abusive on all levels. Molested me at 4, pinned me down and hurt me 5 days a week, threatened to kill me if I told, all that jazz. By the time we were adults things just kept escalating to the point where I pulled a gun on him once. Haven't been alone with him since then, haven't actually seen any of the family since 2015 i think.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 09:38 PM
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More like pursuit of crappyness amirite? but seriously, yeah, wasn't a big fan of that film myself, could see why others like it though.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 09:37 PM
2

I wasn't particularly weirded out by it other than the brothers cuddling in the shared bed. Friends I kidna get but the brothers seemed weird, but perhaps I just have an aversion to it because my brothers and I were at each others throats.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 09:33 PM
1

Me, yes. But most people here still date they just don't cohabitate or get married. Many likely would be fine with it if they lived in the middle east as well but here it is a sure-fire way to ruin your life with an inevitable divorce. Why take the risk? If you're already happy as a single person why would it be devastating to stay this way forever? And if you're not happy, how is a relationship going to fix that?
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 09:32 PM
2

Reviews won't give me the MGTOW motive.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 09:25 PM
4

Thats an easy one, an all time favorite of mine.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 09:21 PM
1

Why so?
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 09:18 PM
5

Why so?
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 09:18 PM
1

if the movie is worth it, yeah.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 08:48 PM
2

Too easy, definitely one of my all time favorite films. Very comfy, lots of rewatch value. Ironic that while The Outsiders was written by a woman, Fight Club was written by a gay man. I have some theories about this.
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 08:32 PM
1

For me it was just dating women in highschool. It really had nothing to do with divorce rates or anything like that (though I am definitely on that train now) it was just dating and then becoming depressed for 3 months. I could never understand why. At some point, it just became clear that being in a relationship is misery.
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 08:12 PM
2

I'm so confused, what is the full story here?
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 08:08 PM
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That only applies to women!!1!
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 07:50 PM
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Fuck I love this shit, I don't blame her for leaving him, it was probably what gave him his wake up call. I was in a similar situation where my best friend died, my one remaining friend tried to hang on but i was just too depressed and he had to let go. It hurt like a bitch especially the way he did it, but it was holding me back from putting my life back together. The sad thing is that she thinks she is owed something just for having been with him, why did she marry him if she thought it was go…
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 07:50 PM
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Sick photo.
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 04:16 AM
1

talk to your doctor via phone, he can likely prescribe something stronger to be used with a nebulizer. Order one now if you don't have it, that way its there when you need it. ​ stay safe brother.
/r/MGTOW213/04/20 08:35 PM
1

If they're easy to meet then go meet them and worry about those other decisions when you get there. You are 19, no one has ever needed to make all of these decisions at the same time. Anyone who tried never succeeded with them, that isn't how life works.
/r/MGTOW213/04/20 09:21 AM
1

Your question is honestly just so broad and simplistic that there is no answer. Your biggest mistake is treating these options like they are mutually exclusive. Even the idea that you could do one of your options reasonably exclusively is borderline impossible. Life is a bit of a balancing act, you got work, you got relationships, and you do a little bit of both. Everyone is somewhere on a spectrum between work and social, and while there are some people who hit these extremes they are a bit of …
/r/MGTOW213/04/20 08:53 AM
2

>guys buy bitcoin for some reason >no guys, seriously
/r/MGTOW11/04/20 11:29 PM
4

by the time she got pregnant she wasnt even sleeping with the others, let alone having gangbangs. in the mini-doc they reveal that they didn't even need a paternity test, it was obvious the ginger was the dad because he was literally the only one fucking her.
/r/MGTOW11/04/20 08:21 PM
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Yeah, sounds pretty harsh, breh. The goal of MGTOW is not to marry, cohabitate, or build a future around a woman, but holy fuck dude you're kinda taking the principles of why to an extreme. You're the same age, you had different relationships, and different struggles for what was expected of you and what you wanted. The saddest thing is that you might be drawing some false conclusions here. One of the issues we talk about here is how a woman later in life will demand more from you than she did f…
/r/MGTOW211/04/20 08:05 PM
1

If I was in this kind of relationship it would be over as soon as she started saying stupid shit like that. I don't know how guys put up with this and just don't put their feet down. Are they that worried about her breaking up with him that they'll let her control even what they do with their free time? When she asks why you can just say 'it's fun', you don't need to avoid that answer.
/r/MGTOW211/04/20 07:32 PM
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Why is a woman involved with this? I can rebuild society without having a wife, I just don't understand the connection here. When the Quarantine ends life is going to 'go on' and I'll be a part of that. This disease isn't wiping out a young generation, only an older one, so what exactly would I need a wife for to rebuild society? It's not really a question, we are all a part of society, none of us are sitting out unless were living off the grid.
/r/MGTOW11/04/20 08:44 AM
1

Even if you record them giving consent with your phone they can claim that they were coerced. If they are smart they won't even do that, they will just claim that they consented but as soon as they said stop you just kept going, they begged, they pleaded, they cried, and you just kept going because you're a racist. Maybe you also called them a whore while doing it. The video will mean nothing, and would just make you seem like a sociopath who played nice to get them consenting on video then used…
/r/MGTOW11/04/20 08:39 AM
1

Moved out a few months after I turned 18, however it hinged almost entirely on student loans for film school. Technically college but this was an official move out, not temp stuff like dorms I moved into an apartment on the opposite side of the country. The biggest difficulty was finding steady work when I graduated but once I did life was easy mode. I have a nice apartment in the city, its shared but its a big place for two people. My life is a million times better since moving out, on every le…
/r/MGTOW211/04/20 08:09 AM
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What a fucking idiot, how is this not the biggest of all the red flags. On every single level this is retarded, she just claimed an entire story of the house and then made it fucking secretive?
/r/MGTOW11/04/20 12:05 AM
1

I know, it's amazing. I especially love the ones that lean into it with the most retarded titles. >Here are six natural disasters that took millions of lives, and it's just everything!
/r/MGTOW10/04/20 11:02 PM
2

ad hominem I tried to make it clesr that I'm not arguing the point. Sorry you missed it.
/r/MGTOW10/04/20 09:43 PM
2

Your logic makes great sense to you. Not so much to others. Its an opinion of how things work in your mind, not an argument.
/r/MGTOW10/04/20 09:36 PM
2

Those are not comparable. Nor are cellphones to AI driven sex robots.
/r/MGTOW10/04/20 09:16 PM
2

Except not, because the sheer magnitude and cost of things isn't just because it's new. There won't be a time where we all get private jets either.
/r/MGTOW10/04/20 08:52 PM
2

I don't listen to arguments that are rooted in buzzwords like 'cuck'. It's pretty stupid logic, that you are raising someone elses kid for them so they got away with it. The bio dad already 'got away with it', he's not being responsible for the kid and is out there doing whatever the fuck he is doing regardless of what you do. So if you want a kid, and adoption is an option then why the fuck not? Beats having to work with a woman.
/r/MGTOW210/04/20 08:30 PM
2

> I disconnected the call faster then a simp who is trying to buy gifts for his hoe Is that considered fast? > I hate the fact that she might think that i am still not over her . But its clearly true because not only did you do that but you placed such huge importance on it. The sad thing is she is probably over you so while you're sitting here festering shes just like 'oh weird, a random call from a number i dont have saved, must have been a telemarketer' and has already moved on. >what should …
/r/MGTOW10/04/20 07:31 PM
2

I don't think it will ever get that far, frankly. Even if we did, this sort of thing would be a luxury of the rich.
/r/MGTOW10/04/20 07:24 PM
3

I'm not good to ask, i know nothing of music, much less hip hop.
/r/MGTOW210/04/20 01:51 AM
4

i dont like the drums, but i like the other beat in there, whatever it is. I just love when a guys like 'I just got out of a long term relationship, so I taught myself to self produce music in 3 days'.
/r/MGTOW210/04/20 01:40 AM
1

What is sad is she probably got some genuine responses, either in the thread or in her inbox at some point, most of them guys who have been dying for a chance to impress her, and she'll be like 'oh maybe' and just let it fade out until she needs a favor.
/r/MGTOW09/04/20 10:10 PM
2

For those of you who want to just get away from women in anime altogether, there's a really funny show called 'Earth Defense Club Love'. It's a parody of the magical girl genre, think Sailor Moon, but it has all boys, and when I say it has all boys I mean even the background characters aren't girls, there was a rule in production that said women aren't allowed to appear at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=synFdx9kcTM Most of the boys are into it ironically, basically if they don't fight the …
/r/MGTOW209/04/20 07:33 PM
3

Geneshaft is an old 12 episode anime that sort of fits the bill, hear me out. The show was in the 90s but it has the plot of Prometheus, but unlike Prometheus, they actually try to explain everything and have a satisfying ending. The main character is female, most of the characters are actually female, as the world takes place in a genetically modified future where women outnumber men 9 to 1. Women make up the majority of the population and workforce, however, men make up 95% of the leadership, …
/r/MGTOW209/04/20 06:34 PM
3

They say that like the dads just come home and go to a private room where they don't see the kids. Both have two responsibilities here. The dads have the kids and work, the mom has the kids and cleaning.
/r/MGTOW09/04/20 06:23 PM
3

Is Malaysia okay?
/r/MGTOW09/04/20 05:08 AM
1

I had a coworker who once insisted I needed to start talking to my family again and make things right. When I told her some of the stories from my childhood she said 'no you don't need that in your life' and dropped the subject. My mother was a mess of a human being, the worst of it was her faking a stalker for a year when our dad left for Greece. Now I'm in mountains of debt because of her too. The problem a lot of people have is that they act like if you had a bad mom then that is the reason w…
/r/MGTOW09/04/20 12:48 AM
1

Sounds like English is your second language. I convince myself that these activities are just as good without women by doing them without women and seeing that they literally added no benefit. There is something to be said about a woman's company but as I get older it is just too exhausting to actually want more than once in a great while. It's so much more fun to make meals with friends where you can yell at each other and talk shit and insult each other, then afterward you get to just eat a re…
/r/MGTOW209/04/20 12:46 AM
2

"Things people say when they don't have an argument".
/r/MGTOW08/04/20 09:57 PM
3

The selfishness of women? There were stairs, the guy could have just walked down, he chose to jump over a balcony onto someone elses car because he was too selfish to care what happened to someone elses property. The 'woman' screaming is a ten year old kid who is terrified during a pandemic, stuck at a motel, and suddenly there is flooding and a man jumping and smashing her family's car. There was no reason for him to jump over the balcony like that, I'd be more concerned about my car too, why s…
/r/MGTOW08/04/20 09:55 PM
1

why did he jump down from the second story like that? what the fuck.
/r/MGTOW08/04/20 09:47 PM
3

Sounds about right. I've heard gay guys complain about gay men being dramatic as well, but it seems to be at worst to be a watered down version of the drama women bring to their relationships, and those seem to be with effeminate gays who do their best to act like women from the get go.
/r/MGTOW208/04/20 09:07 PM
1

Why is everyone hating on this so hard? Totally get if this isn't the lifestyle you want, but it is certainly something awesome.
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 09:16 PM
2

She was the funniest one of them all though. Really subverted my expectations.
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 08:57 PM
7

>I've got issue with short guys >If you're under 5'8" please kill yourself Fuck these make me laugh though.
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 08:56 PM
1

It's like watching a scene from birds of prey.
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 06:18 PM
1

why would we know, we are MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 06:02 PM
9

>Thanos sets out to destroy 50% of all life >snaps fingers >all women fade to dust >thanos turns to the camera and winks
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 05:27 PM
2

Right but youre coming in defensively on it. You're not adding to my point, but rather trying to add to his then saying "but I agree with you". Cant have both,its a one or the other kind of deal.
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 06:32 AM
2

It doesn't really matter who is observing it its just so far removed from whats going on in life. Again, its like laundry. Men havent gotten married for the sake of having someone cook for a few generstions at least. Marriage when it does happen is generally late enough in life that you either learned how to cook or you worked around it and dont need to settle down for that alone. Its just such a stretch. I hate women as much as the next guy here but some guys need to stop and realize that their…
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 06:21 AM
1

It's safe to say there is no real distinguishable difference between a man and a woman's cooking potential, you can try to manufacture one but dude it's so far removed from anything that matters it's just weird. It's like making a thread saying men are way better at doing laundry than women. Even if they are... so?
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 04:24 AM
2

I just don't think gender really affects how good your cooking could be.
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 01:59 AM
2

I cannot find the tweet or the video
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 01:46 AM
13

thats just a white man with an anime girl avatar.
/r/MGTOW06/04/20 10:39 PM
2

That is just about the most man thing I can imagine.
/r/MGTOW06/04/20 06:19 PM
1

Your point makes no sense then.
/r/MGTOW05/04/20 05:39 PM
3

but these are all clearly grown men. I know you're trying to make a joke out of it but it falls really flat.
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 08:38 PM
4

know its obvious, they walk in and are holding the phone. I can't imagine most men being upset that their girlfriend snaps photos or videos of them, most who are upset probably addressed that in the relationship before it gets to this point.
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 08:30 PM
5

None of them had an issue, that wasn't the point or implication.
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 08:26 PM
1

It's literally just stepping onto my street and taking photos bro, I'm not touching anything. Its less dangerous than going out for a walk and im not going to stop doing that either. Frankly If I could get corona virus now just to get it over with, I would. We aren't getting vaccines for 18 months and this isn't being done to stop the spread, just slow it. Already went out and took the photos that night. Not really interested in it as a hobby though, it was more just a one day of fun sort of thi…
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 08:19 PM
4

I love this shit. what do women expect will happen, like 'oh the men are gone, so were just gonna stop driving cars'.
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 08:16 PM
1

Seriously though, aren't most MGTOWs kinda adverse to this thing, even minus the gay parts? Most people here seem to fixate on the idea that no women means isolation.
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 03:42 AM
2

Yes it was me.
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 03:42 AM
2

Even without the sentiment it's just not worded with any nuance or beauty. You do realize what a quote is, right? A quote happens when someone says something poignant and then it gets quoted later by others as a result. Somebody doesn't just 'make a quote', there is no quote industry, people sitting around trying to make dramatic little sentiments in a single sentence with the intent of people copying them are just silly.
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 10:17 PM
1

It's like if Michael Scott became a MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 10:14 PM
10

Jesus christ, why does she write it like he's going to read this someday? Though thanks to this subreddit he might lmao. Is she trying to put out bait for pedophiles? >im 25 >not young enough for you? Well I have a son!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/04/20 08:43 PM
1

I named her Morgana.
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 08:18 PM
2

Frankly when it comes to child custody I think that men should just get custody of sons and women get custody of daughters. Kids need a role model of their own gender.
/r/MGTOW03/04/20 06:31 PM
1

Dis is gon' be so good! =] why?
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 05:21 PM
2

knee and elbow pads are placed over your knees and elbows to prevent injury. should be fine since im doing pretty simple stuff.
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 04:53 PM
1

Do knee pads help
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 04:44 PM
2

Tomorrow I'm gonna learn skateboarding.
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 07:17 AM
1

did you never have any free / cheap aspirations or hobbies?
/r/MGTOW03/04/20 06:50 AM
2

I'm calling shenanigans on that one, if it was that impossibly airborne we would all be sick already, there is no way that it would hit someone in the middle of the woods and magically avoid the millions of people in this city when we already have plenty of cases.
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 05:28 AM
2

Is it wrong to hate women? No. I think hating a general trend of what a certain group of people acts like is fine. We all have it, whether its one of the bigger isms or one of the smaller niche groups. Most people have some Ism as well they just never address it because their lives are mostly spent with their own kind or at the very least away from the race that would be very hard for them to deal with. A lot of it comes down to culture, but the distinction shouldn't have to be made casually. Wo…
/r/MGTOW03/04/20 05:27 AM
2

They aren't trying to stop the spread they are trying to slow it. A lot of people will die from this but a lot can survive if they are hospitalized and given ventilators / infusions. What we're doing is slowing it down so that we don't all get sick at the same time and need to go to the hospital. The best-case scenario is 200 thousand people die in America right now, that's 150 thousand more than get killed by the flu in America each year. But the worst-case scenario is 2 million, where we overl…
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 05:03 AM
1

the lighting is actually just from my window, I have lights because I do filming but I know how to make a movie shot look the way I want but couldn't take a photo without so many issues, so today I learned. I don't really know any books, I just got my camera out, set up my doll and started taking photos while adjusting settings and then googling certain things like 'how to take a photo at night' or 'how to take a noir photo' with my camera model. I arleady knew the three basic functions that I u…
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 04:58 AM
3

For me it's hard to say, it is still early. I lost my day job, but I was only working about 10 hours a week there for the sake of maintaining it as I make enough money on YouTube to support myself. Part of the reason I wasn't quitting was that I was worried my income would fall in April because the major topic I cover is ending and while I can still make SOME money it may be a while before I curate a more general audience. But now it looks like I have no choice, so we'll see. Now that the major …
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 04:42 AM
6

What is your plan?
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 04:39 AM
2

Privately sure. Not wise to have my work stuff linked here as you can imagine.
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 04:33 AM
2

I work from home, I make YouTube videos about cartoons for a living. That being said, most people who are working kind of have to work if the option is there, it's not like I could just live indefinitely until some sort of assistance happens. i myself am lucky even if i stopped making videos I could survive until november, maybe longer, but plenty of people are facing the reality that they need to do something. Sure, they'll get sick but when it comes to hospitalizations 70% of them are people w…
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 04:18 AM
6

I'm not going to an orgy, do you think I'm going to go out and lick the gravel after someone coughs on it? I'm at more risk being inside just because my roommate still works a job. It's not like people are coming up to lick my face in the middle of the street while I'm taking photos.
/r/MGTOW03/04/20 03:46 AM
2

I'm a very good shot, but I do have plans to capture a squirrel later this week so if that goes wrong I can learn taxidermy too.
/r/MGTOW03/04/20 03:08 AM
12

I keep her facing my bed so she doesn't have to move.
/r/MGTOW203/04/20 03:07 AM
9

Even when they are legitimately wrong they call it mansplaining. just let her die.
/r/MGTOW03/04/20 02:58 AM
9

Unfair comparison, she was likely not nearly as attractive at 27 either. I'm not being humorous, shes just caked with makeup there and in a studio with high contrast filters doing a glamour shot.
/r/MGTOW03/04/20 02:02 AM
0

All I did was give you your own advice and then suddenly you deemed it childish because you got upset that some stranger on the internet in another thread threatened you.
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 11:12 PM
0

You say that like you have authority.
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 11:03 PM
1

Why in the fuck are people like you do fucking sensitive?! Grow the fuck up! The irony here is amazing.
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 10:53 PM
0

it's not fake. Google it. You're the one who was unsure, so don't ask a question you don't have an answer to and then tell someone else to google it, especially after they had to explain how your example is valid twice. I already know what I know, if you're unsure then take your own advice.
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 10:37 PM
1

Are there? That is the kind of thing you hear of existing from fictional characters in TV and movies, and then other people parroting it but do you actually know of any that do this? That being said, I didn't say 'this is the unanimously agreed upon only approach to any society ever'. More specifically, I legitimately said that 'tribes' were more in the sharing and that it wasn't until they became communities of individual families that this changed. And again, polygamy still happens in all sort…
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 10:31 PM
1

I thought it was self evident. It is just what society is built on. It is easier to build success when you focus on your family, as opposed to one woman and then another woman somewher eelse, but she also has kids with another man, etc. etc. We started tribal, sleeping in big piles and having kids with anything we could stick our dicks in, but then we built shelter. If we could have built shelter that housed all people we likely would have but since you always start things small shelter started …
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 09:51 PM
2

this predates the 40s by a long shot dude. Every culture was different but there is a reason so many of them focused on building a family unit.
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 06:13 PM
8

There was a time when you got married fast and early, and often to a boy that they were seeing for a long time. Before the sexual revolution, single women slept around a lot less. You have to remember that there was a time when women essentially lived with their parents until they got married so there weren't a lot of options. A lot of women did go out and live on their own as well but how people saw you often outweighed what you wanted for yourself. My friend grew up in the 40s and it was consi…
/r/MGTOW202/04/20 05:05 PM
1

why cant simping ever go right?
/r/MGTOW02/04/20 04:14 PM
1

"no you" not an argument, its not even an insult.
/r/MGTOW02/04/20 04:19 AM
1

get some crown royal fagguette
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 09:44 PM
1

makers mark
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 09:44 PM
1

i work from home ill drink what i want
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 09:27 PM
1

happy hour already? reee im working
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 09:17 PM
1

I mean they're both right to some degree. He shouldn't necessarily help her but he shouldn't necessarily expect the relationship to continue either. This is kind of a global crisis here.
/r/MGTOW01/04/20 05:57 AM
2

Yeah I got that old 4chan version recipe somewhere too ill probably do that this week.
/r/MGTOW01/04/20 04:17 AM
10

There's a reason you're still looking for a man instead of actively dating one. ​ fuck now I want some cheddar biscuits.
/r/MGTOW01/04/20 01:42 AM
0

you apparently couldn't comprehend my initial point. Playing dumb just gives you a reputation for actually being dumb.
/r/MGTOW31/03/20 11:51 PM
0

The implication is there.
/r/MGTOW31/03/20 09:51 PM
2

And no women in any of rhe "essential" jobs, absomutely zero, you sure showed me
/r/MGTOW31/03/20 03:38 PM
17

I'm not really sure what you're asking for unless you go for one that is specific for bodybuilding or BBQing they're not going to feel any more particularly male than any other. Frankly, I'd avoid a cookbook altogether and focus more on recipes, the internet is full of them for free, cookbooks are a bit outdated. That being said it is fun to just have an actual book and commit yourself to try the recipes so if you want it for that experience, have fun. There just isn't much we can recommend for …
/r/MGTOW231/03/20 09:12 AM
43

i mean in defense of the wahmen, nurses.
/r/MGTOW31/03/20 06:40 AM
6

Male privilege
/r/MGTOW31/03/20 04:25 AM
3

This is literally just what my life was a year ago. Don't get me wrong I'm not having a blast, but I'm facing some mental toll. I haven't touched another person in two weeks but my records like 3 months. I understand being too frustrated to do anything for the first week, maybe two, but how are you not doubling down on something by now? I've been editing videos nonstop, I'm actually looking forward to being able to take a week off and just experience the quarantine. Looking forward to learning 3…
/r/MGTOW30/03/20 08:20 PM
1

invite invalid, looks like i was banned.
/r/MGTOW230/03/20 05:30 PM
13

Jesus that is funny. I tried looking up the original article but it looks like the instagram photos have since been removed. I wish we could see, I'm curious what the other guy looks like.
/r/MGTOW30/03/20 04:57 AM
1

Invite invalid.
/r/MGTOW230/03/20 12:22 AM
1

Tried joining but it says invite expired. Was banned from here before?
/r/MGTOW229/03/20 11:17 PM
1

I thought it was a man on the blue side at first, laughed when I got to the BBC. Wow this girl is a nutter.
/r/MGTOW29/03/20 05:23 AM
3

Lets not be dramatic, this isn't the first time something like this has happened, the spanish flu was actually killing healthy young people and society just kept on keeping on.
/r/MGTOW28/03/20 05:39 PM
2

The thing about the show was that it was always cohesive. I hate feminist garbage, but it has to actually be garbage. Alien and Buffy were considered feminist hits of their time, but they aren't remotely garbage. Whereas terminator dark fate and the chilling adventures of Sabrina are absolute garbage feminism. The difference is in the subject matter and how they tackle it. At the end of the day, steven universe isn't ABOUT lgbt nonsense, it's just a show that features it, just like a show can fe…
/r/MGTOW28/03/20 05:15 PM
7

This started off really interesting but threw me for a loop. Basically, autism for girls is the opposite of autism for boys, autistic girls are doubly great at socializing, so how exactly are you even autistic? I know it technically affects the nervous system but if you don't hit any of those traits and are actively better at socializing what does this diagnosis do for you? >'oh its even harder for me to be autistic than a boy because i have to mask, so i decided to actively try and act autistic…
/r/MGTOW28/03/20 04:46 PM
1

I have been an early riser for quite awhile now, over a year but not sure how far back it goes, though I guess it depends on your definition. My day job starts at 1pm, but I tend to wake up between 6am and 8am to get to work on my projects. its been nice because i dont need an alarm for the most part. When I was younger it was a pretty wild sleep schedule.
/r/MGTOW228/03/20 04:37 PM
4

I'm looking forward to enjoying some time down too. My day job closed down for two weeks but my primary income was Youtube so I've been busy with that. Tonight was our last night of covering a really big topic so once I make one or two follow up videos im going to have a lot more time on my hands. Normally I'd work on my personal video projects but my external hard drive with all the footage is busted, so this will be the first time since middle school I can relax without something I should be d…
/r/MGTOW28/03/20 06:10 AM
1

haha, I am the opposite, I feel like I'll never stop wearing them, whats the harm in having all of your most delicate places protected? I am just more worried about whether or not I should buy them. My day job laid us off this morning and the main thing I make money off of just ended tonight.
/r/MGTOW28/03/20 02:40 AM
2

I've been meaning to learn how to skate board, now is the perfect time.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 09:31 PM
17

this is your BEST meal?
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 09:22 PM
2

Crown Royal is my flavor.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 05:25 PM
2

Sorry I was extremely fucking drunk last night, I meant that in relation to the Iraq situation where everyone thought we were going to get drafted.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 04:13 PM
1

thank you captain hindsight, you solved tbe problem. The irony of this though is that this was my new hard drive. I had just transferred everything to it and clesres out the old one with the intent of getting another one. What's sad is the new one failed yet the old one was fine.
/r/MGTOW227/03/20 04:03 PM
2

A draft has never been called and we are not expected to use it again in any time soon. Women are just going to use this as an excuse to talk about how equal they are now without them ever having to have had to be a part of it.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 06:11 AM
3

So I had two jobs, one on YouTube and one at a minimum wage day job where I get to sit around all day doing nothing. YouTube really took off last year to the point where it was paying all my bills and then some, but I wanted to keep my job because there is a constant fear of losing the YouTube audience. Untli recently I was working 1 to 2 days a week, 5 hours each day at the job just to maintain having it in case anything bad happened. Two different employees got fired at the same time at mid ma…
/r/MGTOW227/03/20 05:43 AM
1

Good cover. No one suspects a thing.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 02:24 AM
4

even if they wanted to its probably a lot more difficult to get a monk for the photoshoot, they have no experience modeling so you wouldn't get your vision just right, and most of them probably wouldn't want to do this because, you know, they're monks. Sometimes you gotta just let a photo be a photo, not a documentary.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 08:42 PM
7

imagine them being nurses in an actual war, not that this situation isn't traumatizing.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 07:02 PM
18

He's not wrong, and its not even a matter of being the prettiest, like its not a contest. Men sometimes can be thirsty, but most guys aim for girls in their league or within swinging range of it. You see ugly guys getting with ugly girls, fat guys going after fat girls, etc. etc. Guys want the most attractive girl they can get for the sex, and then after that, it just comes down to personality. You can be dumb and have a nice personality. You can be smart and have a nice personality. Frankly, me…
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 05:44 PM
-8

If a man left a woman you wouldn't be saying he is responsible for her actions. We don't know the story here, and assuming it's an issue of having his assets and children taken away when we don't know that isn't really a good idea. Alimony doesn't make up the majority of cases from what I've read, to put the blame on her here would be like putting the blame on the husband if the wife had an hero'd.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 05:06 PM
3

The thing about men is that low value isn't a judgment of you per se, but a judgment of your current set up. As you know, you can change that. Regardless, I hope you're working to change for reasons other than girls.
/r/MGTOW226/03/20 05:03 PM
2

Yeah, his kids were content to leave him ina nursing home. Wasn't abotu to let that happen
/r/MGTOW226/03/20 04:26 PM
1

I'm not missing your point Explain it to the class then.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 04:24 PM
1

if that were the case you'd have opened with them, mentioned them, hinted at them, literally anything other then act clueless. You're missing the point regardless.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 08:26 AM
2

This is nightmare fuel. Meanwhile my roommate and I are just chilling.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 04:52 AM
5

they really don't seem to get along at all they just seem to get so used to fighting that they can ignore it when they aren't the ones who are angry.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 04:51 AM
1

If you have to ask, you can't do it. If you can't answer that on your own, if you can't look at the state of the world and formulate your own idea then you aren't going to look at your own business and formulate how to do something with it.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 04:38 AM
1

I hated sleeping until I bought myself a memory foam mattress topper. I spent years suffering because I was afraid to throw money at the problem, because when it comes to sleep stuff you just never know if it's going to be worth it and then you feel stuck with something you wasted money on for years. Yeah some places have a 'try it for 30' or '90' days, but that always feels like a hassle and you don't know if you'll really know in that time and blah blah blah. SO. I ended up going to a stranger…
/r/MGTOW226/03/20 04:17 AM
9

they sign up for stem before that happens anyways, right? It's not like girls in highschool are planning to go into stem and then change their entire life because of one bad teacher. Frankly, if they do, that's on them.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 03:59 AM
11

This from the women who are committing suicide due to being in the house all day .
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 11:07 PM
18

sorry man, don't need all the stupid stuff ive said her being associated with it.
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 08:44 PM
3

Women don't realize that this only was a thing because it was a rare occurrence. Women would rarely take dates, they would only take it when a guy seemed actually good and nice, and without apps and online dating, men weren't asking women out at the rates they were today. Women are welcome to sleep around as much as they want but they can't be accepting dates every week and then expecting men to still be throwing out the same amount of money for it, especially since girls are open about how they…
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 07:36 PM
8

#Cuts4Corona Show your support for all the victims of the coronavirus by cutting your bangs. Together we can make a difference!
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 07:28 PM
12

>locked inside >produce more videos than I ever have before >posting two a day >getting 200 thousand views in the first four hours but congrats on the bangs.
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 07:28 PM
5

The genders sure will be unequal when they all die from this. As funny as that sentiment is though, the truth is they're putting men more at risk by doing this. Men are more likely to die from it and lets be real, men are going to be the first ones losing hospital care to give it to women, and these bitches are the ones who will infect everyone.
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 07:19 PM
10

>although we may seem strong gave me a chuckle.
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 07:49 AM
3

nah, I've been on lockdown. Next week I'll start to get cabin fever though so I imagine i'll get on an app.
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 04:47 AM
6

I had a friend who was entirely unaware of MGTOW as a lifestyle, but lived it himself. He gave up on relationships at around 40 years old. When asked about it he simply said 'if I found the right person they'd come in and want to replace the paintings on my walls'. And that was it. He was just happy to build his own life for himself. He got sick and died. I took care of him for 9 months. It was tough but I was determined to keep him in his home, not send him to a nursing home. I can't say if som…
/r/MGTOW225/03/20 03:59 AM
2

by getting laid, mostly. Sometimes there's dry spells, but you just don't say your MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW224/03/20 02:07 AM
-3

I can't. It's impossible.
/r/MGTOW224/03/20 02:06 AM
-4

How do I Go My Own Way? You can't. It's impossible.
/r/MGTOW224/03/20 01:09 AM
3

What a nightmare. You can really see the pain in his eyes. He's so calm through all of this. seuqels for those who want to see it get crazier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU_gD6Lxh60 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCJQ9pMLii4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9X-An4ZtyY
/r/MGTOW23/03/20 07:10 PM
2

Every guy is a 'mans man' who doesn't think girlfriends should come first and that they will always prioritize their friends... until they start dating. Happens every god damn time. Hard to just maintain a friendship when you're relegated to nothing as soon as a pair of tits walks by.
/r/MGTOW23/03/20 06:25 PM
3

why do women think that saying they are crazy or difficult is somehow endearing?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/03/20 05:58 PM
3

You say that like fat ugly poor people are friendless. When you don't have money and looks you find other people without money or looks and find other reasons to care about each other.
/r/MGTOW23/03/20 05:42 PM
4

>and she'll give you the world Fucking hate this line. It's so god damn stupid. They ask for the entire world to be handed to them then claim they give it back by making you feel good, but then its 'NOT MY JOB TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU OR MAKE DINNER' fuck it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/03/20 05:12 PM
4

The divorces have already skyrocketed in china because of the quarantine, there's no reason american women would go nest mode more than them.
/r/MGTOW223/03/20 05:07 PM
3

i have a friend who consistently goes to visit his GF, but he won't come hang out with me because his GF says its too risky. I'd understand the standard if they had lived together, but this is kinda stupid.
/r/MGTOW223/03/20 05:06 PM
2

There was a time when friendship meant a lot more than romance. Your romance ended at your death, but your friendship had to persist for your wife and kids to be taken care of. I grew up on an island called Guam, and one of the abandoned traditions was that each man had two partners in life, a wife and a best friend. Your best friend was generally chosen in childhood and the ceremony was binding. You lived separately in the same village, but legally your property was his and vice versa. You were…
/r/MGTOW222/03/20 04:29 PM
4

Agreed. Sometimes these feelings pan out. sometimes they don't. Giving into what other people expect and NOT trusting your instincts can have a really bad ending but if you trust your instincts the worst that happens is you just didn't talk to someone you didn't want to talk to to begin with.
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 06:35 AM
2

I could understand your concern if you had already been isolated for a long time but after a relationship ending why wouldn't you want to isolate? catch on on TV and movies and books, just let yourself relax while the world stresses out about whats going on.
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 04:43 AM
2

and fuck gamers.
/r/MGTOW222/03/20 03:27 AM
2

why wait don't be a pussy, if thats really the case do it yourself.
/r/MGTOW222/03/20 03:19 AM
3

cant really comment on it, its a pay to read article.
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 03:19 AM
3

Woof. I understand the defense of women who just sleep around, don't get me wrong, but when it comes to an escort it's not like your girlfriend was out having a good time and doing what felt right. She charged these men for a reason, these men pay for sex for a reason.
/r/MGTOW22/03/20 12:54 AM
6

lmfao, did you ask her to go or did she ask you?
/r/MGTOW21/03/20 10:05 PM
28

Fucking legendary. I understand the expectation that a guy will pay for a date but the girls just gonna straight up say 'no were just friends' and still expect him to pay? Imagine having to do this as a male, constantly paying for nice dinnners for girls who just wait until the bill comes and then say 'SORRY WERE JUST FRIENDS'.
/r/MGTOW21/03/20 10:05 PM
5

Oh wow. I had seen part 1 a million times but never the rest. I always liked this story but it sounds like this girl got her way. Jesus Christ now she's just going to manipulate him into a lavish lifestyle. potato soup though?
/r/MGTOW21/03/20 08:13 PM
2

normal and common and 'it happens' are all different things. The societal norm is no, men in their 30s have moved out. There was a time where it was extremely common, it was more weird to have left by 30, and in many times and places people never left at all. Here and now, it's weird. But it happens, and ultimately if you are happy with life and where it's going it doesn't really matter.
/r/MGTOW21/03/20 03:11 AM
3

living with a girl I could not do it.
/r/MGTOW221/03/20 12:04 AM
0

What me and my seventeen boy-brides do in the privacy of the classroom I teach them in is no one elses business.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 07:09 PM
11

People have always liked storytelling, at the end of the day when you finished your physical activities you would wind down with stories. These days childrens dont like bedtime stories because they aren't as exciting as TV, but back before its invention they LOVED bedtime stories. TV and movies were just a next step in the evolution of storytelling mediums. Netflix in particular mirrors one of the most popular storytelling formats from the early ages: epics. Its binge format makes it so that you…
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 06:35 PM
1

I think it makes about as much sense as forcing children to say the pledge of allegiance in school, which is to say not so much unless your heart is already in it. Maybe you trick a few extra people along the way but when you just want to work being forced to do stuff like this can seem childish and amateur. The thing about connecting is you can't really force people to connect. All you can do is build a culture around it and see who survives.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 06:05 PM
1

I guess.
/r/MGTOW220/03/20 05:21 AM
3

this is not what the board is for.
/r/MGTOW220/03/20 04:35 AM
3

Just outside observation and things other gays have told me. To put it simply, love is there, but its different than romance. I had a gay friend back in college that described his frustration of wanting romance but finding that part of what attracted to him to men was the dynamics that were already there.
/r/MGTOW220/03/20 04:28 AM
1

this is MGTOW2, a softer version of MGTOW that is basically for people who don't hate women or want to sit around hating on them. Most MGTOW don't think all women are terrible (just you), they just believe that female nature clashes with societies culture and laws in such a way that make marriage and the traditional idea of what we should do with our lives a terrible proposition for men. To put it simply, if Alimony wasn't a thing MGTOW wouldn't be either.
/r/MGTOW220/03/20 02:42 AM
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When I was younger I had a lot of female friends as well. I went to 5 highschools, always the new kid, and the easiest way to make friends was just to find the geek group, generally either theater or anime, and surprisingly these were made up of mostly girls. I don't regret any of the memories, but it wasn't until I started playing rugby that I realized how starved I was for male camaraderie, how much work women expect you to put into earning their friendship, whereas men tend to build friendshi…
/r/MGTOW220/03/20 01:40 AM
18

Either I get a clean butt or you get a knife in the gut.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 01:07 AM
3

>IF YOU DARE Dare I?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/20 12:06 AM
1

not quite what I like
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 11:51 PM
1

ehhh. you can still hate people for taking advantage of the system. I'm sorry but any woman who takes her husband to the cleaners in divorce is just enslaving him. Doesn't matter what the rules are, hating the player.
/r/MGTOW219/03/20 11:50 PM
2

but it's not human nature it's just most people in our time period are hardwired Literally, culture, law, society.
/r/MGTOW219/03/20 09:01 PM
5

no, there shouldn't be enslavement to begin with.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 08:55 PM
3

>you won't buy me grocceries and fill my gas tank? CHEAP. I love how women try to insult men into subservience.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 08:38 PM
3

I'm less worried about us and more worried about the non MGTOW men who are about to really get taken advantage of. girls are going to be getting fast into marriages now and taking their boyfriends to the cleaners in the divorce.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 08:36 PM
3

Women are the way they are for a good reason. On the base level the way that men and women act are designed to help them, their children, and the tribe survive and thrive. There are a lot of parts of our nature that just don't work well with society and culture. In 'the wild' there was no alimony. Man and woman had kids, and man and woman needed to keep being good to one another in order to ensure that their kids survive, and to some degree that they survive. Women needed to be good to their men…
/r/MGTOW219/03/20 08:27 PM
3

if im not mistaken prenups also only cover pre-existing assets, any assets that you get after you're married are then joint property, cuz thats the point of marriage.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 08:04 PM
1

any recommendations? Particularly scifi or adventurous stuff just about guys?
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 07:30 PM
0

I get it. The sad truth is even beyond just 'simping', romance is considered a very important aspect of today's society / culture. Very rarely will you not find a movie that doesn't at least have a romantic subplot, if not having it be one of the most important elements. Hell, its even hard to find a movie that isn't just about guys doing something without girls being forced in. I wouldn't mind it so much if it didn't feel forced. If there was a balance like shows that just deal with actual male…
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 07:30 PM
3

This is not a topic for this board, thats a MGTOW 1 post.
/r/MGTOW219/03/20 07:10 PM
7

That's not fair. She'll do the laundry once and then talk about how shes the one holding everything together, cuddle up with her man anytime she feels nervous and then shame her man for not acting manly anytime he seems nervous.
/r/MGTOW19/03/20 06:26 PM
1

dont you have a woman to go complain about and then worry about getting banned over?
/r/MGTOW219/03/20 05:24 PM
1

do not demote MGTOW to the subservience of being kicked by a woman I'm not. Were talking about YOU, not MGTOW. , then it's up to you to prove it Nope.
/r/MGTOW219/03/20 04:36 PM
3

I understand being made at people who overkilled and wiped out multiple stores with the intent of profiting, but people who went to stock up during an emergency are now to blame because the single mom didn't? Stupid.
/r/MGTOW18/03/20 09:00 PM
1

I don't understand what you mean. I'm talking in times like the 60s and good parts of the 70s. you weren't forced to be a bachelor, and your pay was expected to cover a family. no one was being forced to marry.
/r/MGTOW218/03/20 02:27 AM
8

>cheats on you >sorry sweaty, you just weren't the right man, that's not my fault ;)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/20 07:17 PM
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I would say no. While we have often easier lifestyles because of technologies convenience, as far as being a bachelor goes it was likely a much better time when you could support an entire family on the minimum wage. Not all bachelors are confined to single bedroom apartments today, but imagine having enough money to take care of a wife and a kid no matter what job you get, and that's all just for you.
/r/MGTOW217/03/20 07:16 PM
1

you can't really say no woman makes you go mgtow and then say you have stories and are worried that the way you 'tell the truth' about them will come off as sexist.
/r/MGTOW217/03/20 04:53 PM
3

ehh. I started the lifestyle in 2013, i only found out about the actual movement earlier this year. It's helped to contextualize things. I got out of dating simply becuase I don't enjoy it as a whole. I like fast flings and fun times but not real relationships. A lot of that comes down to not getting along with women socially. I feel like more men are like this than they realize but put up with a lot of stress. A lot of what is expected of us in dating these days, spending long amounts of time t…
/r/MGTOW217/03/20 02:25 AM
3

To help my fellow man, I will also be giving this comment on an upvote.
/r/MGTOW216/03/20 08:21 PM
1

>she never wanted to go riding through the mountains or do donuts in the snjow >you know just fun stuff you do as a couple ​ wowza, i don't know any girl that wants to do this shit, maybe they'd want to be included in this once just for the thrill but if he had a girl like this before I can see why he would have a hard time dating, most girls just want to stay in and watch netflix and their idea of going out is just restaurants or clubs.
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 06:42 PM
7

This dude cannot catch a break, I binge watched his accounts with his ex-wife. Hes made some stupid decisions in life regarding romance for sure, but come on.
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 06:39 PM
1

Avoid stories about women. This is stories about MGTOW, not women who make you want to go MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW216/03/20 06:35 PM
2

It's more about not talking about women. Like if you need to share your experience with an ex or a woman who went out of her way to ruin your life, sure. But if you are going to post a story about a girl who was just acting like a normal girl but exaggerate your inner monologue about how this girl who said hi was totally trying to steal your beta bux and you could smell the millions of cocks she sucked on her breath, just go back to the old MGTOW board. Instead, focus on MGTOW life, not on women…
/r/MGTOW216/03/20 06:28 PM
6

Thank god, we finally know what the vice presidential candidates gentials will be. I know who has my vote!
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 06:19 PM
3

We all got annoyances to deal with in life, this is just one of em. You can make it easy by just saying 'i dont like dating'. Why? 'I don't need a reason to not like something. I'd need a reason to like it. I don't like lasagna or james bond movies either. there is no reason. I just don't like it.'
/r/MGTOW216/03/20 08:04 AM
1

Hard to say. So far a lot of it has been trying to get my roommate to stop watching the news. I have a productive strain of paranoia, it just makes me test out the solar powered lights / radio, take stock of our emergency food, etc. I can spend a night watching a 'worst case scenario' documentary about a pandemic and then go to bed cuz I already go to bed listening to horror stories. He just tends to build more and more pressure on himself, but ultimately doesn't do anything about it unless I pu…
/r/MGTOW216/03/20 05:52 AM
-3

Don't be sexist, men do this even more than women do. ​ They're just smart enough not to get caught.
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 05:44 AM
7

haha i love how it looks like he had a friend at the end who started running with him.
/r/MGTOW216/03/20 12:56 AM
3

Yep. Going to be interesting to see how this affects feminism over all in the next year or so, but honestly, its going to be sad to see how much feminism hurts men as well. Women will suffer a lot during the breakdown period becuase of how much they've distanced themselves from men, but once things build back up the focus on hiring women and being inclusive may still be right fucking there, with men not being given even just equal opportunity to return to work. I am safe for a little while. Righ…
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 04:38 AM
3

As a happiness expert, I can say this is true. I got a degree in happyology from the university of fun, with a minor in giggles.
/r/MGTOW14/03/20 11:18 PM
1

that isn't forcing you, that is just trying to convince you.
/r/MGTOW214/03/20 05:59 PM
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