How big is MGTOW really?

Si-Wo · 2021-06-01T02:06:03+00:00

First rule: you dont say them that you are one. That is the reason, we here Re only the tip of the iceberg.

TardPol · 2021-05-31T14:51:46+00:00

Why would I care how big MGTOW is? As far as I'm concerned, MGTOW is an army of one. Also the first rule of fight club is that you don't talk about fight club, so of course you should never be able to see a MGTOW man in person. The whole point is to hide in plain sight.

Heavenonearth12 · 2021-05-31T13:49:19+00:00

Society pretty despise MGTOW. Many of us just dont have any other choices but to keep the mouth shut. Its a shit show out there. Sjws, feminists, cancel culture, its crazy.

omen_tenebris · 2021-05-31T13:54:32+00:00

you'll never know. most are silent

Failedalife · 2021-05-31T13:40:02+00:00

You can tell by the media hate

In us they get a lot, and for over 3 years because it's a growing number. I see teenagers going mgtow because of whoring single mother they had.

In England its bigger then the continent as the laws are worse

Sweden is likely much higher than we think

Whatever happens in us flows to the European empire

RatingsOutOfTen · 2021-05-31T13:16:38+00:00

I personally know 5 men in my close circle who aren't going to pursue relationships after being burned by women. These are men that women liked enough to get involved with, but took their money, cheated, or something else.

Thats not including myself.

Thats not including people that I sort of think are in the same situation.

I've never heard them say "mgtow".

It appears to me, when I go out that there aren't as many women and men interacting.

30203forever · 2021-05-31T14:54:34+00:00

It must be pretty big in order to be on the radar of both libtards & tradcucks (aka "society"). Pretty much every "influencer" on YouTube has made a video about MGTOW and lots of them more than one. So it's definitely making an impact. The marriage & birth rates are lowest ever and they say, it's because there is no "good men left" or "men's failure to start". Personally, I suspect, it's only partially true because lots of MGTOW are hiding their assets from the gold-digging hoes. I do.

AbenakiBear · 2021-05-31T20:40:40+00:00

I was MGTOW before I found MGTOW communities - a lot of men are finding the path as a natural consequence of modern society. A lot of men are walking the walk already, maybe without being aware of the term.

frenchlouve · 2021-05-31T22:36:59+00:00

Vikingtraveler makes MGTOW YouTube vids about MGTOW outside the U.S. According to him and his commenters, MGTOW is more popular outside the U.S. But most people don't know this because it is not called MGTOW in other countries as much and many forums are not in English.

Agile-Ad4475 · 2021-05-31T23:43:37+00:00

Is going big on different levels here in Brazil. All the liberal/progressive agenda is also strong here, so lately man are becoming more aware of the situation

aigars2 · 2021-05-31T21:13:14+00:00

I think it's a wave among men in general. Of course there are all these groups. Men trying to find a group where they belong to move forward with this new found notion that they have been duped. If we are in this equality society why men are expected to not be treated equal and still expected to pay for everything, receive bad medical service, be deprived of their kids etc. At one point this will have to be addressed very seriously, otherwise anything can happen and already is happening.

i_stepONdubz · 2021-05-31T16:05:11+00:00

there are men who are mgtow and don't even know it!! if you have the core philosophy in check, than that means you have gone mgtow -> Don't have a gf, don't get married and don't have children. that's about it! theres no need to go fully radical and hate women for their nature, use the power of knowledge you acquired with mgtow to plan accordingly and not fall into the bad side of getting involved emotionally and financially with a woman. No complications! MGTOW is a decision that leads to a way of life based on a core philosophy.

Phantom_Spark · 2021-06-01T21:54:46+00:00

MGTOW isn’t about the label. Additionally the message and sentiment is found all over the world coming from men of all cultures, race, education and socio-economics.

It’s not something easily measured but it’s message is found all over once you begin to notice.

It’s also a threat… not because they think we hate women. It’s easy to see that’s not the case. The problem is that MGTOW as it stands is a threat to power and profit. Healthy intact families were destroyed because it’s more profitable to keep people desperate and fighting. As a result… the state grows in power.

MGTOW highlights this fact in numerous ways. This is the real reason it’s a threat.

I’ve seen videos and messages from men old and young all over the world. This was never about a man being salty that he’s been hurt. It’s about the callous nature of the way the world operates. A woman lies, defrauds, maims, abused or kills a man and people make excuses for it. This is not about lacking evidence. You can have the woman admit guilt or have video evidence combined with dna and testimony from 100 people… she will still escape punishment or receive a minimized punishment.

The message MGTOW spreads has even been echoed by intelligent women and authors who warned that men are playing it smart and understanding just how much we have to lose.

Don’t for a minute think it’s just about white men or men in the west. MGTOW takes different shapes and forms. Ultimately it’s understanding that the life expected from us just isn’t rewarding enough to engage.

MGTOW is huge. Can’t be measured because we aren’t a movement or organization. Even calling it MGTOW won’t help you understand how big it is.

But if you look closely? Young boys are rapidly absorbing this information. We’re seeing the consequences of men going their own way already.

With regards to it being mainstream… I’ll say this. An idea is mainstream when it’s highly profitable. It’s not clear how to profit off MGTOW. So it can’t be accepted as mainstream. There is also no leadership. This means it’s difficult to control as individual voices come together and discuss MGTOW. No one controls or has authority.

So it can’t be mainstream once you understand this. Now… if you’re asking has it grown in popularity such that a large number of men are aware of it or agree with it to a degree? I think you’ll find that’s true. It’s difficult to disagree with it once you remove labels and break down the most basic ideas.

Just because men date doesn’t mean they don’t agree or use red pill knowledge. That’s why I said people fall into different degrees of this. There’s a huge market that discusses red pill within the idea of dating. These men may not be avoiding women. But they definitively are aware of most of what honest intellectual MGTOW discusses. They also make it a point to weed out and cut off females who behave badly. The absence of MGTOW entirely would be soft passive effeminate men who let the woman take charge, lack drive and ambition and follow whatever she says.

MGTOW has much in common with VERY old traditional understandings of men and masculinity and even family to one extent or another.

Hoe_slayer666 · 2021-06-01T13:29:39+00:00

I was mgtow before i discovered there was a name for it.

DevilComeKnockin · 2021-06-01T12:32:00+00:00

It's really big, but not in an official way. What I call "male disengagement" is taking place among men of all races, incomes, abilities, careers, etc. The ever lowering number of male college attendance is a big sign. Guys just aren't inspired to go to a college where they have a target on their backs, all to get a job where they have a target on their backs, just to provide a High-Value divorce to some post-Wall party girl. They are being actively disincentived to do so.

MGTOW-like behavior is common among GenX now. It'll only get bigger with time.

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Loban8990 · 2021-06-01T10:08:53+00:00

No one really knows. Our numbers are a mystery. But that's what makes it so good. MGTOW is like a decentralized network of dudes doing thier own thing. Their are no leaders, and most mgtow (mature ones at least) will never admit to being mgtow or talk about it in real life. The rules of Fight Club are applied. Tjis is why I feel mgtow can never be taken down.

And it's global it's not just a North American thing, I've see videos and posts from mgtows in India, Brazil, France, Germany, The UK, Mexico, Israel, some parts of the Caribbean, Sweden, Denmark Japan, etc.

CA-GMOW · 2021-06-02T17:06:36+00:00

As far as I know, guys are starting to go for their purpose and enjoying their life.
They are also going their own way without knowing it. Men do not want to date a girl after she is done with her prime.
As far as WGTOW, that is mostly in the media and stuff. Most of the cases I have seen with that regards are cuz they are woke, hit the wall, or just undesired by men so they do not have another option.

Patient_Signature467 · 2021-05-31T17:12:36+00:00

In my country its just me and my bro.

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Such_Temporary_9597 · 2021-06-01T03:19:32+00:00

The closest thing we have is a census of bachelor men but some may be divorced some still looking its tricky but look at the subscriber numbers on the content creators that could give you a ball park

babib652 · 2021-06-01T00:42:04+00:00

A True Mgtow doesn't really care about this stuff. Focus on your own happiness and purpose, first and foremost. And when you can, spread the word online and such occasionally. I couldn't care less if every Mgtow disappeared tomorrow and i was the only one. Nothing would change for me.

Crafty-Tackle · 2021-05-31T21:29:10+00:00

Very small. Less than 1%.

BubblyBath7 · 2021-06-02T20:55:31+00:00

Redpill is massive.

MGTOW is tiny, powerful but globally insignificant. End stage for redpilled men.

Miggymoggy · 2021-05-31T15:41:25+00:00

Men who put themselves first in society just do so in quiet and most haven't heard of "red pill" or "mgtow", so all these content creators saying mgtow / red pill is making a massive change are just clutching at straws and really are just full of shit to clearly make money (aka 33 Secrets, Coach Greg Adams, Better Bachelor and every single member of the Red Man group etc).

The only thing mainstream is "simping and white knighting" whilst men with common sense just do their own thing on the quiet.

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