A quick thought and a question

Stray_48 · 2020-12-14T23:43:46+00:00

Get evidence. Prove them wrong. Debate

Oncefa2 · 2020-12-15T00:23:46+00:00

Just frame it like a fun fact or as being progressive.

Did you know that 1 in 6 men have been raped, and that it's usually by women and not men? Yeah that whole thing about most men being raped by other men is actually a really old myth based on outdated gender stereotypes.
Did you know that at least 40% of domestic violence is women assaulting men? People give it lip service but usually don't know just how common it is.
The wage gap is actually caused be men working more than women. This is according to the BLS, the same government organization that releases the official wage gap stats every year in the US. Sometimes people lose sight of things like that. Including the fact that men work more to provide for women and pay for dates and things. Which is a harmful gender norm that someone like you, Kate, being a feminist, ought to care about. Because the false belief that it's caused by discrimination against women actually makes the problem worse.

Just some ideas.

MyLittleDashie7 · 2020-12-15T00:42:23+00:00

even the non stereotypical feminists looking ones.

despite us knowing otherwise

A good place to start is probably to not generalise people, and more importantly, not to presume that you are already correct. If you and your opponent both go into a debate with complete certainty that your respective positions are 100% correct, then no one's opinion will be changed by the end of it. It'll be an utterly pointless fight.

You won't bother listening to their arguments, you'll dismiss them out of hand, and you'll lose their attention as a result. You have to be willing to hear them out, and honestly take their points on board. That doesn't mean you have to agree with them, you can still argue against them, but if you're not willing to hear them out, why on earth would they be willing to hear you out?

Remmy700P · 2020-12-14T23:43:37+00:00

Q: "How do you write women so well?"

A: " I start with a man. Then I take away reason and accountability."

Apprehensive_Ad1248 · 2020-12-14T23:45:53+00:00

That's the million dollar question. MGTOW seems to be a good start. Men need to distance themselves from women as much as possible and not try to help them at all.

If women want to be left alone, leave them to suffer on their own. Eventually they'll figure out that society doesn't function well when the species is split in half.

Of course, that'll probably never happen. There's too many simps and male feminist in the world so I don't know what the answer is.

Society is just so broken that it seems almost unfixable at this point.

Title	A quick thought and a question
Author	Complex-Young2711
Upvotes	3
Comments	10
Date	December 14, 2020 7:41 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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