Activists make false rape reports against students, preventing male rape victims from finding justice

alt30313 · 2013-12-19T00:27:38+00:00

There were a few good comments in the comment section at least.

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karen straughan on Dec 18, 3:00 PM said:

@ACMESalesRep:

I don't think so. I remember a case in Nova Scotia not too long ago, where a man was accused of aggravated sexual assault for poking holes in condoms, which resulted in his (now ex) girlfriend getting pregnant. I don't remember any prominent MRAs thinking that guy should get off the hook (and he was convicted). I DID see a whole lot of MRAs arguing that that case should set precedent for women who lie about birth control in order to obtain sexual consent from men.

So here we have a case where a man essentially lies about birth control being put in prison for aggravated rape, all while you have 42% of women polled admitting they would lie about contraception in order to get pregnant, no matter the wishes of their partner. http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/96-of-women-are-liars-honest-1-565123

So we literally have a case where MRAs only want the rights women have that they don't--the right to reproductive autonomy. The woman-hating troglodytes!

And before you say "it's different, because pregnancy happens in a woman's body", that only made a difference regarding the "aggravated" aspect of the sexual assault. It was classified as "aggravated sexual assault" because it resulted in a physical "injury" (pregnancy and a subsequent abortion). Had it not resulted in pregnancy, it would still be considered sexual assault, since the woman in that case consented to protected sex, and did not consent to unprotected sex.

To my knowledge, among feminists, only Amanda Marcotte (of all people) has spoken strongly and publicly about criminalizing "conception by deception" no matter what the gender of the deceiver is. Most of the mainstream coverage of that case revolved around worries that such a precedent might be used to prosecute women who lie about or sabotage birth control.

Feminists also make a HUGE deal about how in ~30 states, there have been no specific laws passed prohibiting rapists from suing for custody and visitation rights to children conceived of rape (and they have publicized no cases of a rapist winning custody, to my knowledge). However, NO state, to my knowledge, has any law that prohibits a 30 year old woman who raped a 13 year old boy from seeking (and automatically receiving, through the enforcement of CSAs) child support from her victim--even if she's been convicted and served time for her offence. There are several publicized cases of boys raped by adult women, who receive a back child support bill that they now must pay out of their paper route money, all while having NO automatic custody or even access rights to their child.

Again, a case of MRAs drawing attention to rights women have that men do not.

Unemployed men outnumber unemployed women in the US. However, you don't really see MRAs demanding affirmative action for men--only asking that affirmative action for women be discontinued.

Women enrolled in and completing post-secondary programs outnumber men. However, you don't really see MRAs demanding Title IX be used to force parity in the Liberal Arts, the Humanities, Veterinary Medicine, Biological sciences, Psychology, Sociology or anything else. You see them objecting to the continued prioritization of female education through programs and scholarships, and protesting Obama's intention to use Title IX to force parity in STEM (one of only two highly male-dominated fields left).

As far as the anonymous form goes, I really don't like it. I don't like it from the perspective of someone who was sexually assaulted in my early-mid teens and didn't report it (for various reasons). Looking back on what I know now about male perpetrators of sexual assault (which jives with one Occidental student's experience of being assaulted by someone who was a repeat offender), if I had known all this then, I'd have reported it.

Giving women a way to "report" without actually reporting is not doing anything to protect a rapist's future victims. It's basically giving women victims a deceptive band-aid. Women who might have reported their assaults officially (which would get the perpetrators of 90% of college rapes out of the picture, if Dr David Lisak's research is to be believed) may instead opt for the "easier path" that does nothing more than give authorities an idea of the pervasiveness of the problem, but doesn't do anything to actually put a stop to it.

Why aren't we instead encouraging women to embrace a sense of sisterhood, good citizenship and personal social responsibility. Why are we constantly providing them moral permission and various options to not officially report, when victims not reporting results in more future victims?

GrimB0LD · 2013-12-18T22:44:08+00:00

Why the hell does everyone quote slithering filth like David Futrelle as though he is a reliable source?

ThePigmanAgain · 2013-12-18T22:57:04+00:00

First, what is a site called Business Insider doing commenting on gender issues? Second, who the fuck quotes ManSlug as a source?!?! David Futrelle is shit incarnate, and "Dylan Love" is not much better.

EvilPundit · 2013-12-18T22:40:02+00:00

A good thing is that the linked story is open for comments.

SporkTornado · 2013-12-19T00:40:26+00:00

they say they don't press charges based on anonymous reports. but what do they do with these reports? do they go on the accuesed's school record. are the reports kept private?

Title	Activists make false rape reports against students, preventing male rape victims from finding justice
Author	misterren
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Date	December 18, 2013 10:33 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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