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Another winner from Conservative Daily Caller: 'White House Report On Sexual Assault Gets Major Facts Wrong, Threatens Freedom'

MattClark0994

May 1, 2014

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http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/29/white-house-report-on-sexual-assault-gets-major-facts-wrong-threatens-freedom/

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Title	Another winner from Conservative Daily Caller: 'White House Report On Sexual Assault Gets Major Facts Wrong, Threatens Freedom'
Author	MattClark0994
Upvotes	8
Comments	15
Date	May 1, 2014 6:55 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/24h7bl/another_winner_from_conservative_daily_caller/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/another-winner-from-conservative-daily-caller.1001113 https://theredarchive.com/post/1001113

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[–]MattClark0994[S] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]monkeyhousezen 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Samurai007_ 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Samurai007_ 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Conservatives are naturally on the side of men's rights, source after source after source on the right is speaking out in support of it. Meanwhile, source after source on the left is supporting Feminism and attacks the MRM. This is simply the facts. I know it's annoying to left-leaning MRAs that the people you'd otherwise support because of other issues hate you because of your stance on this issue, but you need to accept the truth. Don't pretend that just because you lean left and are an MRA that the support for mens' rights is exactly the same from the left and the right, because it's not.

No one is saying you need to support other right-wing causes or politicians just because you are an MRA, that's entirely your choice. But know that if you vote in far-left Democrats like Obama or Hillary, you are promoting a champion of radical Feminism to an influential high office, and they will push that feminist agenda hard.

[–]monkeyhousezen 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Samurai007_ 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]monkeyhousezen -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Redefining marriage's definition isn't part of men's rights, and there's no reason for MRAs to take a stand on it either way.

Argument from tradition

Okay, just so we're clear, you don't support a man's right to marry the consenting adult of his choice because it isn't a men's rights issue but rather a semantic issue with the definition of marriage.

This, ladies and gentleman, is part and parcel of why the MRA is viewed as a fringe movement. Purely from the position of personal liberty your answer should be "sure, let them marry whoever they want provided its two consenting adults" but you've chosen parochialism and a demographically losing position over equal rights.

But it's foolish to pretend that the left and right are no different in their attitudes toward men's rights

Straw man

I never made that claim. I'm simply pointing out that unnecessarily alienating a significant fraction of your potential supporters is a bad strategy.

[–]Samurai007_ 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So, are you saying that because many (though not all) conservatives don't support gay marriage (an issue that has nothing to do with men's rights), you refuse to ally with them on the issues of men's rights, which they support? And fear of alienating Feminists and their white knight supporters is your main reason? ("heavens, what would they think of us for associating with conservatives?" shudder) As a conservative, I face their hate all the time, it doesn't scare me. And since I'm used to facing their vitriol, I'm not afraid to ally with MRAs and be called all kinds on names for THAT. If "what people will think of me" is your prime focus, you won't like being an MRA any more than you would a conservative, they'll still hate you and call you a sexist misogynist even if you proclaim that you are not a conservative.

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