Battering Intervention & Prevention Program is not available for Men. Can organizations like this discriminate based on sex, what if they get government grant money?

girlwriteswhat · 2018-06-29T13:27:13+00:00

I think it depends on the state and its anti-discrimination laws, and whether they get state money. As far as I've been able to ascertain, the VAWA doesn't prohibit its grants from being used for men in some instances, but doesn't demand it.

Best bet, in my estimation, would be to find a gay man who was turned away from victim services, or a lesbian who had to pay for her own batterer treatment program because it's not funded, and sue based on that. I know a guy in Maryland who was thinking of doing that. At least in the current climate, that case would get more sympathy.

CaptSnap · 2018-06-29T14:48:24+00:00

I think you have it backwards the Battering Intervention & Prevention Program is ONLY available TO men.

Presumably no woman in their service area would ever need to learn (from their website:)

how to live a non-violent life and redirect current beliefs about power and control in an intimate relationship.

They used to be called the "Women's Shelter of South Texas" so give them some props. Looks like they have Dr Katz coming in to shit on some men. He is the author of The Macho Paradox: Why Some Men Hurt Women and How All Men Can Help he gives training and bullshit especially to football players but I think also to the military now. Seems like its mostly about how to be a chivalrous Victorian whiteknight and stop bad things happening to women. NOt that they are weak or anything just that youre worth less.

They get resource help from these people that can help schedule training in "oppression" and "rape culture" from their website:

“What is rape culture? It is a complex of beliefs that encourages male sexual aggression and supports violence against women.

SO I mean the misandry is there.....youre not wrong. This is just standard VAWA funded, duluth model...feminist patriarchy ideology out in the wild. This is your tax dollars at work.

Actually these taasa people are pretty nutty...heres from their family law page:

A divorce proceeding allows you to get Temporary Orders in place to secure property and debts, and also gives you the opportunity to seek temporary custody of the children, and get some financial support ordered (child support and/or spousal support). If it can be proved that you are the victim of a sexual assault by your spouse, then you are entitled to seek spousal support, regardless of the length of your marriage, as well as a larger share of the marital property.

Theres another texas group here that offers free legal aid to alleged victims of domestic violence. They put their flyers up in shelters. Technically they are gender-blind but if the only place they advertise is through violence shelters (and theres only one male violence shelter in Texas) then its kind of obvious why thats the only place they chose to get the message out huh?

Anyway thats a tangent soapbox because thats what got me banned from /r/legaladvice because they were doing an AMA there and I asked them how they became so clairvoyant to "know" out of two people in a couple that cant afford legal aid which one was definitively the abuser and which one wasnt? It being implicit that if your expartner cant afford legal aid and you have it pro bono you can really squash his ass. Obviously the answer is whomever has a penis but I wanted them to say it.

tenchineuro · 2018-06-29T17:16:55+00:00

ALL SERVICES ARE FREE, CONFIDENTIAL, AND AVAILABLE TO WOMEN,

MEN, AND CHILDREN (with the exception of BIPP):

It looks like their services are available to men, so they are either not funded by the VAWA (which will only help gay men battered by their partners) or they are not in the US. Let's see...

Administration Office

813 Buford St.

Corpus Christi, TX 78404

Surprise, they're in Texas, so they can't be funded by the VAWA or the federal government.

Looking at their history...

https://purpledoortx.org/agency/agency-history/

With grants from the City of Corpus Christi, Nueces County and several area foundations a building was purchased and renovated, opening to shelter battered women and their children on January 16, 1978. As the third battered women’s shelter to open in the state of Texas the agency went on to provide safety and support to hundreds of victims over the next several years.

Absolutely everything mentioned is women and children, even up to the present. I think it's unlikely that they will provide any shelter for battered men given their history, all their facilities are strictly for women and children.

So what do they offer for men? My guess is, not much.

Title	Battering Intervention & Prevention Program is not available for Men. Can organizations like this discriminate based on sex, what if they get government grant money?
Author	MakeTotalDestr0i
Upvotes	18
Comments	4
Date	June 29, 2018 4:44 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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