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[–]Ovedya2011 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The ability to be prejudice without recourse. The ability to form groups based upon "blackness" or, "black power" without the accusation of racism. A yearly holiday based purely on ethnicity (Kwanzaa).
[–]atheist4thecause[S,🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks! Keep them coming if you think of more, please.
[–]Shubrook 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I think you might be lost.
This is a sub for men's issues. Roughly half of black people are men, and they have all the same issues as men of any other color, with precious few of the perks.
[–]atheist4thecause[S,🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Well, my understanding is that this Subreddit allows talk about Feminism, and privilege is a major part of Intersectional Feminism. I guess your answer is that you don't know of any privileges Black people have that White people have. Wouldn't that actually favor the argument that White people do have White privilege? Unless, of course, you think White people never benefit in any way from the color of their skin as well. My argument is that all races benefit in one way or another, and there's no way to quantify the amount of "privilege".
[–]192873982 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
There is no way to quantify privilege, UNLESS somebody is privileged in all aspects (=pareto optimal).
The laws are almost never in favour of white people, and white men don't get any of the minority bonuses most other people can get. That means white men are actually quantifiable underprivileged in regards to the law and aids by taxmoney, just as well as men are quantifiable underprivileged in regards to the law and application of the law and aids by taxmoney and society.
But white people might have (in some cases) societal advantages, like having less problem with the police. I said might, because first, it does not always apply, and second, because there's no study who attempted to prove the different treatment, since the different treatment by the police could be depending on the different behaviour of the groups. A scientist would actually need VERY detailed protocols and footage to find out how much of the different treatment by the police is actually racism and how much is justifiable in some way. I don't think such a study will ever be done.
But also black people have some societal advantages. E.g. you are in less danger as a black in some neighborhoods of the us.
Since it's very likely that both have some advantages over the other, nobody is pareto optimal, and we can't really quantify privilege. Or let's be more precise and say that every group (most likely) has some set of privileges the other doesn't have.
[–]atheist4thecause[S,🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thanks! This is exactly my position. Can you think of some specific examples of what would be considered "Black Privilege" if such a term was used (or at least what are most likely Black privileges)? For instance, you brought up laws. Can you name them a little more specifically? Can you think of more societal differences, too? I could really use some more examples. Your example of a White person being more at risk in a "Black neighborhood" is a very useful example.
[–]192873982 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If such laws exist or not may depend on the place you look. Read legal codes if you want to find such laws. Search for minority. It has a high chance to discriminate against non-minorities, but it's not 100%. Equality wouldn't allow special minority-laws, unless the law doesn't do anything (e.g. like "minorities are to be treated equally"). There are also a lot of minority bursaries, where minorities get taxmoney that non-minorities have no access to and no equivalent.
I don't know why you need this information, but if you are going to systematically look at it, group it by "law", "application of the law", "tax money spent in favour" and "societal", it will help you see things more clearly.
But anyway, the privilege of women is much higher than the privilege of minorities (if they exist the specific place you are looking for) and this subreddit is actually about female privilege and discrimination against men, and you should probably not ask for racial privilege on this sub.
[–]atheist4thecause[S,🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thanks for the help. Btw, I have been on this Subreddit for over a year. I've posted many times and read many articles. I've been involved in many of the action posts as well. I know what this Subreddit is about.
[–]192873982 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A sorry, my bad. I usually don't look at the post history, because the only thing it can achieve is an unneccessary bias. Also I've seem some posts here with non-MRA topics. It seems I jumped to conclusions, I apologize.
[–]sillymod[M] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not relevant here. I have removed it.
I thought Feminism, and arguments of Feminism (which privilege is one), were related. Can you explain why other privilege posts have been allowed and not this one?
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