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Child Support Scam - Recorded Call

DrScott88

June 30, 2019
38 upvotes
/r/MensRights

I recorded a phone call between me and child support, they were caught red handed lying. I got it all on recording and I put the evidence that they were lying in the video.

If you think Child Support is a rigged system, that is because it is.

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Title Child Support Scam - Recorded Call
Author

DrScott88

Upvotes 38
Comments 15
Date June 30, 2019 11:11 AM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/c7bxin/child_support_scam_recorded_call/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/child-support-scam-recorded-call.874473
https://theredarchive.com/post/874473
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Comments

[–]Wisemanner 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the way to do it! Everybody, please follow suit!

[–]p0rnpop 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Time to end child support.

Her body. Her choice. Her responsibility.

[–]Rethgil 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Totally. There's GOT to be a rebalancing of rights & responsibilities.

[–]Cade_Connelly_13 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The minute that at-will abortion became legal, child support should have ended.

[–]Rethgil 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody should trust these groups. They are staffed by poorly paid morons who are often indoctrinated man haters. At best they make mistakes. At worst its deliberate.

Dont take any shit from them, record whatever interactions you can with them for your own good.

[–]turbulance4 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Would you care to summarize the scam in the text or here in the comments, and maybe leave time-stamps? I've listened to 9 minutes. Honestly it doesn't sound like you had your ducks in a row before making this phone call. Maybe it will eventually get to a real scam, but it's mildly infuriating listening to all this floundering, not knowing what I'm actually waiting for.

[+]DrScott881 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

You either didn't watch the video or were too stupid to follow along.

Summary:

  • Child Support was being overpaid
  • Child support INCREASED arrears with each payment
  • Photographs proved it, in the video, if you'd watched it
  • Math was done on screen, also proving it

​

The scam was that instead of lowering the arrears, like they were legally obligated to do. They increased it with every payment that was made.

[–]turbulance4 -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Calling people interested in your situation stupid isn't a good way to garner support...

You can kindly bugger off now.

[+]DrScott881 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Ah, I see what the problem here is. You just have a problem paying attention. Let me clear this up for you.

Calling people interested in your situation stupid isn't a good way to garner support...

- turbulance4

​

Let's recap what was said and break this down for you.

​

^(1)**I recorded a phone call between me and child support, they were caught ^(2)**red handed lying. I got it all on recording and I put the evidence that they were lying in the video.

​

After closely examining this first portion, there is zero indication that I am looking for support.

​

If you think Child Support is a rigged system, that is because it is.

After examining the final portion of my original post we see as with the first portion that there is still no indication of intent to garner support. We can now use elementary level reading comprehension to come to the conclusion that the author of said post (in this instance me) is not looking to garner support but rather raise awareness to the fact that *^(3)****Child Support is scamming people who are not paying attention***.

  1. The reason for the "floundering" is to establish that the call was in fact with Child Support
  2. At approximately 4:44 it is indicated along side photos that Child Support is in fact lying.
  3. This statement is proven true in the video itself and relies on the reader to have actually paid attention to the material provided.

[–]turbulance4 -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The difference between the phrases "garner support" and "raise awareness" is negligible. Your diatribe about it doesn't prove you right, it just proves you are an ass.

I am in a pretty similar situation to you. I'm also paying child support. I have also had problems with it. I am more than interested in "raising awareness" (making sure I get the right term so I don't trigger you again) for the problem. However, your method of raising awareness is poor, and causing more harm than good. What is the lie at 4:44 exactly? The other person from the CS collection agency is inappropriately shifting blame onto your employer?

Here's what you need to do:

  • Stop being an ass to anyone who questions the facts of your situation.
  • Work out a short, solid, logical argument for what you believe the CS collector did wrong. Make it something you can say in a sentence.

Otherwise you are just going to look like an angry deadbeat who just doesn't want to pay for his kid (regardless of the facts), further pushing society away from properly recognizing fathers' rights.

[+]DrScott881 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

your method of raising awareness is poor, and causing more harm than good. What is the lie at 4:44 exactly?

You cannot be this dense? You have got to be a troll.

Please don't make me literally transcribe the conversation.

Child Support: We are not taking your money, you're employer is
Video: Images of garnishment with image of credit company proving THEY DID

Child Support: Your arrears are going down
Video: Photographs and math proving false

I literally put it up in the freaking video . . .pictures of the actual checks, I even did the math for you so that you wouldn't have to.

Everything that was said, while it was said, was then backed or dis proven by the pictures.

If you cannot tell the difference between asking for people to support you and telling people to pay attention than may whatever god you pray to have mercy on you.

My channel had a video update, I ended up winning custody of my child. Also They ended up providing an audit and it proved they were scamming money and raising the arrears. I don't owe child support anymore.

​

I am going to stop talking to you since basic levels of human comprehension seems to elude you. Best of luck with your situation. I went through 9 years of legal battles.

[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You cannot be this dense? You have got to be a troll.

Think you hit the nail on the head there.

[–]wheremypp -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Loooool fuckin hit em with it

[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

'I demand you immediately lay out every example of where you interacted with the agency to pay money because you claim you are in a similar situation and if you dont I'll start smearing you and blah blah blah blah....'

[–]Rethgil -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Expecting everything to be laid out on a platter for you and being uneccessarily questioning of already explained facts isnt a good way to garner respect.

You can fuck off now.

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